Down goes DOMA!!

[Trajan]

You are running on a false horse, Trajan, and I will leave you to run your race alone.

I don't recall asking you

 

[Seawytch]

that post explains no equivalence, you want to ask a leading question with a ready made answer according to you, but you apparently cannot relate why.....



Oh and I never answered, stop putting words into my mouth, thats dishonest.

Which Bod clarified and I agreed, you never said being against interracial marriage is bigotry. Is it?

stop trying to lead me, it won't work.

again-

that post explains no equivalence, you want to ask a leading question with a ready made answer according to you, but you apparently cannot relate why.....

If you don't want gays to have marriage rights equal to heterosexuals, whatever your "reason" that's bigotry. If you don't think blacks should marry whites, whatever your "reason", its bigotry.

Not a difficult concept. Why are you dodging?

 

[Luissa]

There is no conflation.

Bigotry is bigotry whether it be race or it be orientation.

If the religious right declares war against American culture, then the younger generations coming to power will isolate it, without influence or reputation.

why? and how?

oh and-

: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance




Bigot - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

If you are intolerant of a bigot that does not make you a bigot. FYI.
Would you call someone who is intolerant of racism and racists a bigot?

 

[Seawytch]

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/1731155

If you oppose gay marriage because you don't believe the government should recognize any marriages whatsoever, that is a difference of opinion over a political matter. If you oppose gay marriage because you think gay people are sinners or not deserving of the same rights as other people, that is bigotry.

 

[Trajan]

Which Bod clarified and I agreed, you never said being against interracial marriage is bigotry. Is it?

stop trying to lead me, it won't work.

again-

that post explains no equivalence, you want to ask a leading question with a ready made answer according to you, but you apparently cannot relate why.....

If you don't want gays to have marriage rights equal to heterosexuals, whatever your "reason" that's bigotry.


If you don't think blacks should marry whites, whatever your "reason", its bigotry.

Not a difficult concept. Why are you dodging?

If you don't want gays to have marriage rights equal to heterosexuals, whatever your "reason" that's bigotry.

you are framing it wrong......please restate, its important we are accurate.



and one more time, explain the equivalence between inter-racial marriage and gay marriage......

 

[Antares]

VERY BIG DECISION -- all federal rights have just been granted to same-sex couples.

The wording of this decision puts all anti-gay laws into jeopardy.

I assume you were outraged at Clinton and the Left when they pushed this law?

 

[Trajan]

Kristen Hotham Carroll: Yes, Actually, That Does Make You a Bigot

If you oppose gay marriage because you don't believe the government should recognize any marriages whatsoever, that is a difference of opinion over a political matter. If you oppose gay marriage because you think gay people are sinners or not deserving of the same rights as other people, that is bigotry.

who is Kristen Hotham Carroll?

 

[Seawytch]

stop trying to lead me, it won't work.

again-

that post explains no equivalence, you want to ask a leading question with a ready made answer according to you, but you apparently cannot relate why.....

If you don't want gays to have marriage rights equal to heterosexuals, whatever your "reason" that's bigotry.


If you don't think blacks should marry whites, whatever your "reason", its bigotry.

Not a difficult concept. Why are you dodging?

If you don't want gays to have marriage rights equal to heterosexuals, whatever your "reason" that's bigotry.

you are framing it wrong......please restate, its important we are accurate.



and one more time, explain the equivalence between inter-racial marriage and gay marriage......

They are both marriages opposed by bigots.

 

[Trajan]

VERY BIG DECISION -- all federal rights have just been granted to same-sex couples.

The wording of this decision puts all anti-gay laws into jeopardy.

I assume you were outraged at Clinton and the Left when they pushed this law?

alls forgiven he needed to get re-elected, so, there ya go, at least according to one who has made that point twice I believe.

 

[Trajan]

If you don't want gays to have marriage rights equal to heterosexuals, whatever your "reason" that's bigotry.


If you don't think blacks should marry whites, whatever your "reason", its bigotry.

Not a difficult concept. Why are you dodging?

If you don't want gays to have marriage rights equal to heterosexuals, whatever your "reason" that's bigotry.

you are framing it wrong......please restate, its important we are accurate.



and one more time, explain the equivalence between inter-racial marriage and gay marriage......

They are both marriages opposed by bigots.

bzxh11


you are still not stating it correctly, first comes marriage.....right?

 

[bodecea]

VERY BIG DECISION -- all federal rights have just been granted to same-sex couples.

The wording of this decision puts all anti-gay laws into jeopardy.

I assume you were outraged at Clinton and the Left when they pushed this law?

Love your revisionist history. Clinton only signed DOMA. He and the Left did not push it....it was your beloved Republicans who wrote, sponsored, and pushed it.

 

[Katzndogz]

If you are against necrophilia does that mean you're an anti corpse bigot? Get over being concerned about bigotry. Some times a little bigotry is necessary. A person could be an anti drug bigot or anti sadism bigot. There is nothing wrong with bigotry.

 

[bodecea]

VERY BIG DECISION -- all federal rights have just been granted to same-sex couples.

The wording of this decision puts all anti-gay laws into jeopardy.

I assume you were outraged at Clinton and the Left when they pushed this law?

alls forgiven he needed to get re-elected, so, there ya go, at least according to one who has made that point twice I believe.

Gee...a politician who wanted to get re-elected. You've not seen that before, Trajan?


Ironically, you are proving a very good point. In the 1990s, in order to get elected/reelected, one had to at least have the appearance of being against legal gay marriage.


And now......politicians in BOTH parties don't have to have such an appearance any more.

 

[bodecea]

If you are against necrophilia does that mean you're an anti corpse bigot? Get over being concerned about bigotry. Some times a little bigotry is necessary. A person could be an anti drug bigot or anti sadism bigot. There is nothing wrong with bigotry.

Because necrophilia is like gay marriage to you, right?

 

[Trajan]

VERY BIG DECISION -- all federal rights have just been granted to same-sex couples.

The wording of this decision puts all anti-gay laws into jeopardy.

I assume you were outraged at Clinton and the Left when they pushed this law?

Love your revisionist history. Clinton only signed DOMA. He and the Left did not push it....it was your beloved Republicans who wrote, sponsored, and pushed it.

and he signed it and apparently you forgive him becasue....he needed to re-relected. Did I sum that up correctly?

 

[bodecea]

I assume you were outraged at Clinton and the Left when they pushed this law?

Love your revisionist history. Clinton only signed DOMA. He and the Left did not push it....it was your beloved Republicans who wrote, sponsored, and pushed it.

and he signed it and apparently you forgive him becasue....he needed to re-relected. Did I sum that up correctly?

Yes he did sign it. We've got round about this before. Is there something that you keep forgetting about it? Besides your initial incorrect comments about Clinton pushing for DOMA...that I corrected with a link on its history?

(would you rather I voted for Dole? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!)

 

[Trajan]

I assume you were outraged at Clinton and the Left when they pushed this law?

alls forgiven he needed to get re-elected, so, there ya go, at least according to one who has made that point twice I believe.

Gee...a politician who wanted to get re-elected. You've not seen that before, Trajan?


Ironically, you are proving a very good point. In the 1990s, in order to get elected/reelected, one had to at least have the appearance of being against legal gay marriage.


And now......politicians in BOTH parties don't have to have such an appearance any more.

of course I have, and as I said that collateral damage ala those that wanted to get married back then and instead of having a forthright champion that simply refused to go along to get along , assisting in the fight, who knows, this thing could have been done 10 years ago..... I don't usually see someone proud of that.

Obama was against gay marriage, was/is he a bigot?

 

[Trajan]

Love your revisionist history. Clinton only signed DOMA. He and the Left did not push it....it was your beloved Republicans who wrote, sponsored, and pushed it.

and he signed it and apparently you forgive him becasue....he needed to re-relected. Did I sum that up correctly?

Yes he did sign it. We've got round about this before. Is there something that you keep forgetting about it? Besides your initial incorrect comments about Clinton pushing for DOMA...that I corrected with a link on its history?

(would you rather I voted for Dole? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!)

I said Clinton pushed doma?

why would I ask you to vote for someone I didn't vote for either? ....and I did say that before I believe.

 

[bodecea]

alls forgiven he needed to get re-elected, so, there ya go, at least according to one who has made that point twice I believe.

Gee...a politician who wanted to get re-elected. You've not seen that before, Trajan?


Ironically, you are proving a very good point. In the 1990s, in order to get elected/reelected, one had to at least have the appearance of being against legal gay marriage.


And now......politicians in BOTH parties don't have to have such an appearance any more.

of course I have, and as I said that collateral damage ala those that wanted to get married back then and instead of having a forthright champion that simply refused to go along to get along , assisting in the fight, who knows, this thing could have been done 10 years ago..... I don't usually see someone proud of that.

Obama was against gay marriage, was/is he a bigot?

Yes....he WAS. As in past tense, I am happy to say. I don't believe either of the past two Republican candidates can make that same "evolving" claim. Can they? Have either McCain or Romney restated their opinions on gay marriage?

 

[Antares]

VERY BIG DECISION -- all federal rights have just been granted to same-sex couples.

The wording of this decision puts all anti-gay laws into jeopardy.

I assume you were outraged at Clinton and the Left when they pushed this law?

Love your revisionist history. Clinton only signed DOMA. He and the Left did not push it....it was your beloved Republicans who wrote, sponsored, and pushed it.

Senate Vote 85-14

House Vote 342-67

Defense of Marriage Act (1996; 104th Congress H.R. 3396) - GovTrack.us

Sorry kid....and Ole Bill could have vetoed it....you lose.