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Stalin was a piece of shit asshole tooStalin actually supplied Hitler with a ton of raw materials for his war effort.
Stalin was more of an alliance with Hitler gone south, rather than an actual anti-Fascist.
Stalin was basically a Fascist too. He thought undesirables should be deported, killed, or sent to Gulags.
How so? I'm willing to hear you out. But I must warn you...I will push back strongly against the idea Tsarist Russia was worse than communist rule. Let's have a lively debate, no personal attacks.Mass murder wise the Soviets killed more.
But, economically speaking Communism was a slight improvement over Serfdom.
Serfdom keeps people as slaves, how is that worse than Communism? It is actually pretty similar, just Communists at least have a direction, and plan.
Because some owners are better than others. Communism dictates your use as a cog in a machine. Once you have no value you are killed.
Communism is just a more modern version of serfdom.
Serfs weren't wholesale murdered. Your historical knowledge is shit if you believe that.
Haha, wow.Wait so you pretend to be a polack?
I have a Polish Catholic heritage.
Capitalism is selling Poland out as we speak to mass immigration.
There's something like 2 million immigrants now in Poland, mostly Ukrainians, but others too like Vietnamese, Chechens, Bangladeshis, Chinese, Indians, etc.
Wrong again. It is GLOBALISTS who are selling you out. They are the antithesis of capitalism. They are crony capitalists, at best, which means they are fascists.
Capitalism, and Globalism are currently going hand, and hand.
They are propping up fifth columns of Illegal Hispanics here, and shipping our jobs abroad to hostile places like China, for the cheap labor for the Capitalists.
No they're not. Your understanding is so poor that it is sad. Capitalists are the small businesses that are begun and fight for survival against the multi national corporations. The corporations who buy the politicians so they can make them do what they want. In other words, FASCISM.
Uh just about every small business firm I see relies on Illegal Immigrant Latinos.
While just about every big business firm I see relies on outsourcing jobs to China.
Latinos, and China are both hostile to us, and will be our death, pushing up daisy's as a country.
Of course Trump, and the rest of the British Isle buffoons in the USA will never see Capitalism as the issue, because they are stupid as sh(t.
While there had
Stalin was a piece of shit asshole too
How so? I'm willing to hear you out. But I must warn you...I will push back strongly against the idea Tsarist Russia was worse than communist rule. Let's have a lively debate, no personal attacks.
Serfdom keeps people as slaves, how is that worse than Communism? It is actually pretty similar, just Communists at least have a direction, and plan.
Because some owners are better than others. Communism dictates your use as a cog in a machine. Once you have no value you are killed.
Communism is just a more modern version of serfdom.
Serfs weren't wholesale murdered. Your historical knowledge is shit if you believe that.
Most of the mass murder of Serfs, like in Communism is by famine due to the cr@piness of the system.
That doesn't mean sometimes the Communists, and Serfs weren't mass murdered outright. Of course that happened too.
Communism is worse. The individual is more respected in serfdom. Communists look at people as numbers and stats in all cases. The Cultural Marxists of today proudly claim they are commies while clearly not understanding that communism teaches that dying for the cause does not merit you mourning or praise ..you're just another cog in the machine.While there had
Stalin was a piece of shit asshole tooI support Stalin's measures which ended the Holocaust. Stalin killed 5 million Nazis, he liberated Auschwitz the Polish death camp, and even helped found Israel through supplies, and training.
Stalin actually supplied Hitler with a ton of raw materials for his war effort.
Stalin was more of an alliance with Hitler gone south, rather than an actual anti-Fascist.
Stalin was basically a Fascist too. He thought undesirables should be deported, killed, or sent to Gulags.
How so? I'm willing to hear you out. But I must warn you...I will push back strongly against the idea Tsarist Russia was worse than communist rule. Let's have a lively debate, no personal attacks.Wrong. That's an excuse for the Bolshevik atrocities. Don't buy the hype.
No. Bolshevism made it worse. At least the Tsar saw his people as property to maintain and defend, take care of them...even if for selfish reasons. The Bolshiviks treated the people as chattel.
Mass murder wise the Soviets killed more.
But, economically speaking Communism was a slight improvement over Serfdom.
Serfdom keeps people as slaves, how is that worse than Communism? It is actually pretty similar, just Communists at least have a direction, and plan.
Because some owners are better than others. Communism dictates your use as a cog in a machine. Once you have no value you are killed.
Communism is just a more modern version of serfdom.
Haha, wow.I have a Polish Catholic heritage.
Capitalism is selling Poland out as we speak to mass immigration.
There's something like 2 million immigrants now in Poland, mostly Ukrainians, but others too like Vietnamese, Chechens, Bangladeshis, Chinese, Indians, etc.
Wrong again. It is GLOBALISTS who are selling you out. They are the antithesis of capitalism. They are crony capitalists, at best, which means they are fascists.
Capitalism, and Globalism are currently going hand, and hand.
They are propping up fifth columns of Illegal Hispanics here, and shipping our jobs abroad to hostile places like China, for the cheap labor for the Capitalists.
No they're not. Your understanding is so poor that it is sad. Capitalists are the small businesses that are begun and fight for survival against the multi national corporations. The corporations who buy the politicians so they can make them do what they want. In other words, FASCISM.
Uh just about every small business firm I see relies on Illegal Immigrant Latinos.
While just about every big business firm I see relies on outsourcing jobs to China.
Latinos, and China are both hostile to us, and will be our death, pushing up daisy's as a country.
Of course Trump, and the rest of the British Isle buffoons in the USA will never see Capitalism as the issue, because they are stupid as sh(t.
No, it is you who are the buffoon. You are a victim of terrible public schooling. Someday you will understand, but you have a lot more reading to do before you get there.
Communism is worse. The individual is more respected in serfdom. Communists look at people as numbers and stats in all cases. The Cultural Marxists of today proudly claim they are commies while clearly not understanding that communism teaches that dying for the cause does not merit you or praise ..you're just another cog in the machine.While there had
Stalin was a piece of shit asshole tooStalin actually supplied Hitler with a ton of raw materials for his war effort.
Stalin was more of an alliance with Hitler gone south, rather than an actual anti-Fascist.
Stalin was basically a Fascist too. He thought undesirables should be deported, killed, or sent to Gulags.
How so? I'm willing to hear you out. But I must warn you...I will push back strongly against the idea Tsarist Russia was worse than communist rule. Let's have a lively debate, no personal attacks.Mass murder wise the Soviets killed more.
But, economically speaking Communism was a slight improvement over Serfdom.
Serfdom keeps people as slaves, how is that worse than Communism? It is actually pretty similar, just Communists at least have a direction, and plan.
Because some owners are better than others. Communism dictates your use as a cog in a machine. Once you have no value you are killed.
Communism is just a more modern version of serfdom.
Communism is worse. The individual is more respected in serfdom. Communists look at people as numbers and stats in all cases. The Cultural Marxists of today proudly claim they are commies while clearly not understanding that communism teaches that dying for the cause does not merit you mourning or praise ..you're just another cog in the machine.While there had
Stalin was a piece of shit asshole tooStalin actually supplied Hitler with a ton of raw materials for his war effort.
Stalin was more of an alliance with Hitler gone south, rather than an actual anti-Fascist.
Stalin was basically a Fascist too. He thought undesirables should be deported, killed, or sent to Gulags.
How so? I'm willing to hear you out. But I must warn you...I will push back strongly against the idea Tsarist Russia was worse than communist rule. Let's have a lively debate, no personal attacks.Mass murder wise the Soviets killed more.
But, economically speaking Communism was a slight improvement over Serfdom.
Serfdom keeps people as slaves, how is that worse than Communism? It is actually pretty similar, just Communists at least have a direction, and plan.
Because some owners are better than others. Communism dictates your use as a cog in a machine. Once you have no value you are killed.
Communism is just a more modern version of serfdom.
Haha, wow.Wrong again. It is GLOBALISTS who are selling you out. They are the antithesis of capitalism. They are crony capitalists, at best, which means they are fascists.
Capitalism, and Globalism are currently going hand, and hand.
They are propping up fifth columns of Illegal Hispanics here, and shipping our jobs abroad to hostile places like China, for the cheap labor for the Capitalists.
No they're not. Your understanding is so poor that it is sad. Capitalists are the small businesses that are begun and fight for survival against the multi national corporations. The corporations who buy the politicians so they can make them do what they want. In other words, FASCISM.
Uh just about every small business firm I see relies on Illegal Immigrant Latinos.
While just about every big business firm I see relies on outsourcing jobs to China.
Latinos, and China are both hostile to us, and will be our death, pushing up daisy's as a country.
Of course Trump, and the rest of the British Isle buffoons in the USA will never see Capitalism as the issue, because they are stupid as sh(t.
No, it is you who are the buffoon. You are a victim of terrible public schooling. Someday you will understand, but you have a lot more reading to do before you get there.
Anybody who can't see that Capitalists are selling us out to Illegals, and outsourced jobs.
Must be painfully retarded.
This isn't even taught in school.
It's basically an acquired perception. Something a bit too deep for British Individualist savages.
Haha, wow.Capitalism, and Globalism are currently going hand, and hand.
They are propping up fifth columns of Illegal Hispanics here, and shipping our jobs abroad to hostile places like China, for the cheap labor for the Capitalists.
No they're not. Your understanding is so poor that it is sad. Capitalists are the small businesses that are begun and fight for survival against the multi national corporations. The corporations who buy the politicians so they can make them do what they want. In other words, FASCISM.
Uh just about every small business firm I see relies on Illegal Immigrant Latinos.
While just about every big business firm I see relies on outsourcing jobs to China.
Latinos, and China are both hostile to us, and will be our death, pushing up daisy's as a country.
Of course Trump, and the rest of the British Isle buffoons in the USA will never see Capitalism as the issue, because they are stupid as sh(t.
No, it is you who are the buffoon. You are a victim of terrible public schooling. Someday you will understand, but you have a lot more reading to do before you get there.
Anybody who can't see that Capitalists are selling us out to Illegals, and outsourced jobs.
Must be painfully retarded.
This isn't even taught in school.
It's basically an acquired perception. Something a bit too deep for British Individualist savages.
Anybody who can't see that the corporations are the ones using the government to do that, is mentally retarded. The corporations are ordering the government to allow them to subvert the law so that they have an unfair advantage versus the small mom and pop companies who follow the law. A thinking person would understand this fact.
Can't disagree. Commies and Fascists are the same breed of people. Heartless, primitive and afraid of true progressivism... True progressivism and conservatism go hand in hand. Respecting what we know, but not fearing where we can go.Communism is worse. The individual is more respected in serfdom. Communists look at people as numbers and stats in all cases. The Cultural Marxists of today proudly claim they are commies while clearly not understanding that communism teaches that dying for the cause does not merit you or praise ..you're just another cog in the machine.While there had
Stalin was a piece of shit asshole too
How so? I'm willing to hear you out. But I must warn you...I will push back strongly against the idea Tsarist Russia was worse than communist rule. Let's have a lively debate, no personal attacks.
Serfdom keeps people as slaves, how is that worse than Communism? It is actually pretty similar, just Communists at least have a direction, and plan.
Because some owners are better than others. Communism dictates your use as a cog in a machine. Once you have no value you are killed.
Communism is just a more modern version of serfdom.
No, it's worse. You are EXPECTED to die for the ruling class. That's why all of the fascist countries suffered so much higher casualty rates than the western powers. Millions of soldires died in the soviet, german, and japanese military forces. The US lost 350,000. The British lost 400,000.
There is a reason we suffered fewer casualties. We didn't want to lose the people because we care about them. Fascists don't.
Communism is worse. The individual is more respected in serfdom. Communists look at people as numbers and stats in all cases. The Cultural Marxists of today proudly claim they are commies while clearly not understanding that communism teaches that dying for the cause does not merit you or praise ..you're just another cog in the machine.While there had
Stalin was a piece of shit asshole too
How so? I'm willing to hear you out. But I must warn you...I will push back strongly against the idea Tsarist Russia was worse than communist rule. Let's have a lively debate, no personal attacks.
Serfdom keeps people as slaves, how is that worse than Communism? It is actually pretty similar, just Communists at least have a direction, and plan.
Because some owners are better than others. Communism dictates your use as a cog in a machine. Once you have no value you are killed.
Communism is just a more modern version of serfdom.
No, it's worse. You are EXPECTED to die for the ruling class. That's why all of the fascist countries suffered so much higher casualty rates than the western powers. Millions of soldires died in the soviet, german, and japanese military forces. The US lost 350,000. The British lost 400,000.
There is a reason we suffered fewer casualties. We didn't want to lose the people because we care about them. Fascists don't.
Can't disagree. Commies and Fascists are the same breed of people. Heartless, primitive and afraid of true progressivism... True progressivism and conservatism go hand in hand. Respecting what we know, but not fearing where we can go.Communism is worse. The individual is more respected in serfdom. Communists look at people as numbers and stats in all cases. The Cultural Marxists of today proudly claim they are commies while clearly not understanding that communism teaches that dying for the cause does not merit you or praise ..you're just another cog in the machine.Serfdom keeps people as slaves, how is that worse than Communism? It is actually pretty similar, just Communists at least have a direction, and plan.
Because some owners are better than others. Communism dictates your use as a cog in a machine. Once you have no value you are killed.
Communism is just a more modern version of serfdom.
No, it's worse. You are EXPECTED to die for the ruling class. That's why all of the fascist countries suffered so much higher casualty rates than the western powers. Millions of soldires died in the soviet, german, and japanese military forces. The US lost 350,000. The British lost 400,000.
There is a reason we suffered fewer casualties. We didn't want to lose the people because we care about them. Fascists don't.
Nah man...Americans are just different than the Old Worlders. We cherish life more than the Old Worlders do. That difference is rapidly going away, sadly. George Washington told us to mind our own and seek to have good relationship with other nations. We became too dumb to get that after a few generations.Communism is worse. The individual is more respected in serfdom. Communists look at people as numbers and stats in all cases. The Cultural Marxists of today proudly claim they are commies while clearly not understanding that communism teaches that dying for the cause does not merit you or praise ..you're just another cog in the machine.Serfdom keeps people as slaves, how is that worse than Communism? It is actually pretty similar, just Communists at least have a direction, and plan.
Because some owners are better than others. Communism dictates your use as a cog in a machine. Once you have no value you are killed.
Communism is just a more modern version of serfdom.
No, it's worse. You are EXPECTED to die for the ruling class. That's why all of the fascist countries suffered so much higher casualty rates than the western powers. Millions of soldires died in the soviet, german, and japanese military forces. The US lost 350,000. The British lost 400,000.
There is a reason we suffered fewer casualties. We didn't want to lose the people because we care about them. Fascists don't.
Maybe because Brits, and Americans were protected from Ocean waters, so it limited their direct combat?
Maybe also because Brits, and Americans supplied Soviets to do their fighting for them through Lend-Lease, and other similar programs?
That was not capitalism. That was fuedalidm and colonialism. The prior systems to capitalism.Can't disagree. Commies and Fascists are the same breed of people. Heartless, primitive and afraid of true progressivism... True progressivism and conservatism go hand in hand. Respecting what we know, but not fearing where we can go.Communism is worse. The individual is more respected in serfdom. Communists look at people as numbers and stats in all cases. The Cultural Marxists of today proudly claim they are commies while clearly not understanding that communism teaches that dying for the cause does not merit you or praise ..you're just another cog in the machine.Because some owners are better than others. Communism dictates your use as a cog in a machine. Once you have no value you are killed.
Communism is just a more modern version of serfdom.
No, it's worse. You are EXPECTED to die for the ruling class. That's why all of the fascist countries suffered so much higher casualty rates than the western powers. Millions of soldires died in the soviet, german, and japanese military forces. The US lost 350,000. The British lost 400,000.
There is a reason we suffered fewer casualties. We didn't want to lose the people because we care about them. Fascists don't.
Fascists killed far less than Capitalism, or Communism.
Capitalists killed a lot of people too. The British Empire killed up to 60 million people by JUST FAMINE ALONE in India, that doesn't even begin to speak of all the other wars, massacres, oppression, and other things the British Empire engaged in.
The USA has killed up to 30 million people by war since WW2.
Another 50 million by Abortion since WW2.
Capitalist Brits like to think their sh(t don't stink, and yet they are the worst scum, and primitive filth the World has ever seen.
Nah man...Americans are just different than the Old Worlders. We cherish life more than the Old Worlders do. That difference is rapidly going away, sadly. George Washington told us to mind our own and seek to have good relationship with other nations. We became too dumb to get that after a few generations.Communism is worse. The individual is more respected in serfdom. Communists look at people as numbers and stats in all cases. The Cultural Marxists of today proudly claim they are commies while clearly not understanding that communism teaches that dying for the cause does not merit you or praise ..you're just another cog in the machine.Because some owners are better than others. Communism dictates your use as a cog in a machine. Once you have no value you are killed.
Communism is just a more modern version of serfdom.
No, it's worse. You are EXPECTED to die for the ruling class. That's why all of the fascist countries suffered so much higher casualty rates than the western powers. Millions of soldires died in the soviet, german, and japanese military forces. The US lost 350,000. The British lost 400,000.
There is a reason we suffered fewer casualties. We didn't want to lose the people because we care about them. Fascists don't.
Maybe because Brits, and Americans were protected from Ocean waters, so it limited their direct combat?
Maybe also because Brits, and Americans supplied Soviets to do their fighting for them through Lend-Lease, and other similar programs?
Some people claim that is a "protectionist" mindset and therefore evil...those same people will pretend they love our founding documents and those who wrote them. Pfffttt
That was not capitalism. That was fuedalidm and colonialism. The prior systems to capitalism.Can't disagree. Commies and Fascists are the same breed of people. Heartless, primitive and afraid of true progressivism... True progressivism and conservatism go hand in hand. Respecting what we know, but not fearing where we can go.Communism is worse. The individual is more respected in serfdom. Communists look at people as numbers and stats in all cases. The Cultural Marxists of today proudly claim they are commies while clearly not understanding that communism teaches that dying for the cause does not merit you or praise ..you're just another cog in the machine.Communism is just a more modern version of serfdom.
No, it's worse. You are EXPECTED to die for the ruling class. That's why all of the fascist countries suffered so much higher casualty rates than the western powers. Millions of soldires died in the soviet, german, and japanese military forces. The US lost 350,000. The British lost 400,000.
There is a reason we suffered fewer casualties. We didn't want to lose the people because we care about them. Fascists don't.
Fascists killed far less than Capitalism, or Communism.
Capitalists killed a lot of people too. The British Empire killed up to 60 million people by JUST FAMINE ALONE in India, that doesn't even begin to speak of all the other wars, massacres, oppression, and other things the British Empire engaged in.
The USA has killed up to 30 million people by war since WW2.
Another 50 million by Abortion since WW2.
Capitalist Brits like to think their sh(t don't stink, and yet they are the worst scum, and primitive filth the World has ever seen.
Wrong. That's an excuse for the Bolshevik atrocities. Don't buy the hype.It's amazing that the life expectancy of Russia steeply climbed in the face of 60 million, or about half of their country supposedly mass murdered. in 1913 the life expectancy of Russia was 32 by 1950 it was 64.Health in Russia - Wikipedia
Russia was basically a serfdom before Communism. Basically anything would have improved it.
No. Bolshevism made it worse. At least the Tsar saw his people as property to maintain and defend, take care of them...even if for selfish reasons. The Bolshiviks treated the people as chattel.It's amazing that the life expectancy of Russia steeply climbed in the face of 60 million, or about half of their country supposedly mass murdered. in 1913 the life expectancy of Russia was 32 by 1950 it was 64.Health in Russia - Wikipedia
Russia was basically a serfdom before Communism. Basically anything would have improved it.
Mass murder wise the Soviets killed more.
But, economically speaking Communism was a slight improvement over Serfdom.
The hell it was. Take a look at the cities of Moscow and Stalingrad. People living in blocks of apartments that were absolute shit. Forced to work longer hours, and no chance at all of bettering your social situation. As a serf it was possible to advance. Exceedingly rare, but possible. As a socialist drone you were merely expected to be a drone. And when you no longer had a use, you were killed.
In terms of economy Russia, or any country for that matter, would be better off Capitalist than Communism. Still Serfdom is the worst for economic growth.
In terms of keeping Russia, or any country intact culturally, and keeping socially Conservative in values, Capitalism is actually the worst.
Capitalism is a greed driven system, which values Individualism, and profits. Where the elites sell you down the road to Illegal Immigrants, Outsourced jobs, Pornography, Prostitution, Illicit Drugs, LGBTQ Bars, it is all Capitalist profits in action.
Some African Americans in Watts have idolized Hitler and organized a Black Gestapo, so why would being Jewish be a bar?
I support Stalin's measures which ended the Holocaust. Stalin killed 5 million Nazis, he liberated Auschwitz the vPolish death camp, and even helped found Israel through supplies, and training.
But what about the 60 million that stalin murdered during the collectivization of the farms and the pogroms that he perpetrated against the Jews of his own country? Are you just stupid or is it ok because you happen to like stalin?
It's amazing that the life expectancy of Russia steeply climbed in the face of 60 million, or about half of their country supposedly mass murdered. in 1913 the life expectancy of Russia was 32 by 1950 it was 64.Health in Russia - Wikipedia
Not really. Such advances in developing countries were pretty common.
Industrialization led to much better jobs and mechanized farming led to much greater food supplies, and massive advances in medicine became available...
hell, just being able to afford clean water would have saved millions of children.
9 million people die each year of hunger. 15 Striking World Hunger Statistics | The Borgen Project
What is capitalism doing about it?
That was not capitalism. That was fuedalidm and colonialism. The prior systems to capitalism.Can't disagree. Commies and Fascists are the same breed of people. Heartless, primitive and afraid of true progressivism... True progressivism and conservatism go hand in hand. Respecting what we know, but not fearing where we can go.Communism is worse. The individual is more respected in serfdom. Communists look at people as numbers and stats in all cases. The Cultural Marxists of today proudly claim they are commies while clearly not understanding that communism teaches that dying for the cause does not merit you or praise ..you're just another cog in the machine.Communism is just a more modern version of serfdom.
No, it's worse. You are EXPECTED to die for the ruling class. That's why all of the fascist countries suffered so much higher casualty rates than the western powers. Millions of soldires died in the soviet, german, and japanese military forces. The US lost 350,000. The British lost 400,000.
There is a reason we suffered fewer casualties. We didn't want to lose the people because we care about them. Fascists don't.
Fascists killed far less than Capitalism, or Communism.
Capitalists killed a lot of people too. The British Empire killed up to 60 million people by JUST FAMINE ALONE in India, that doesn't even begin to speak of all the other wars, massacres, oppression, and other things the British Empire engaged in.
The USA has killed up to 30 million people by war since WW2.
Another 50 million by Abortion since WW2.
Capitalist Brits like to think their sh(t don't stink, and yet they are the worst scum, and primitive filth the World has ever seen.
Wait a second..Real Fascists are Nationalists, and social Conservatives. I think the term you are searching for is Totalitarianism.Hilarious. Antifa aren't fascist. Where would you get a silly idea like that from?
Umm because they are you fucking moron. Any group that declares free speech null and void is by definition fascist.
Duh
Wrong. You keep getting lost in the minutia. Collectivism is fascism, socialism, communism. They are all the same house, just painted a slightly different color. What they choose to believe in as far as racism and all the other shit is immaterial. They are COLLECTIVIST first. The choice of targets is merely a tool to direct the followers.
Collectivists tend to be far more Socially Conservative, and Nationalistic than the Individualist.
Individualist is by definition the Liberal Left.
You don't get socially Conservative values by being an Individualist.
In fact Individualism is all about the self. It really has no value in the real World.
Conservatives by nature are independent/individuals
I can't stand a lot of my fellow conservatives.
But we come together
