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Guy we let those people out
Most murders are committed against criminals by criminals get those fuckers off the street for good and see an instant drop in the murder rate but then again I'm not talking just about murder am I?
IDGAF about Europe If you want to live in Europe be my guest we won't even know you're gone
You do realize that in the UK a death is not ruled a murder unless there is a conviction in the courts don't you? You do realize that the FBI calls any death with evidence of foul play murder or non negligent homicide and that includes homicide in self defense or other justifiable shootings don't you?
Therefore a comparison of murder rates between the US and UK are utterly meaningless
In the UK a death isn't counted as a murder until AFTER there is a convictionYou do realize that in the UK a death is not ruled a murder unless there is a conviction in the courts don't you? You do realize that the FBI calls any death with evidence of foul play murder or non negligent homicide and that includes homicide in self defense or other justifiable shootings don't you?
Therefore a comparison of murder rates between the US and UK are utterly meaningless
NOpe, that's not true at all. The only time a murder is removed from the books if a conviction is overturned.
In fact, the FBI undercounts gun murders. They come up with 8000 a year while the CDC records 11,000.
In the UK a death isn't counted as a murder until AFTER there is a conviction
And the FBI is the authority on crime not the CDC
Guy we let those people out
Most murders are committed against criminals by criminals get those fuckers off the street for good and see an instant drop in the murder rate but then again I'm not talking just about murder am I?
IDGAF about Europe If you want to live in Europe be my guest we won't even know you're gone
most murders are not criminals killing criminals. They are regular citizens killing their friends and relatives. Most murder victims KNOW their killers. It's why homicide detectives know, first person you look at is the spouse.
Of course, you don't care about Europe. You like to ignore realities that the guns are the problem, not the poor people who commit them.
Keep dodging the fact that the UK has a lower murder rate because they count murders differently than we doIn the UK a death isn't counted as a murder until AFTER there is a conviction
And the FBI is the authority on crime not the CDC
You need to stop reading the r ight wing propaganda.
It's not just the UK. EVERY OTHER industrial democracy restricts or bans gun ownership, and every other industrial democracy has a fraction of our murder rate. But you guys will try to attribute that to ANYTHING but guns.
So the real question is, does your right to compensate for a tiny pecker mean the rest of us should tolerate 33,000 gun deaths, 70,000 gun injuries, 1.5 gun crimes and 270 BILLION in economic losses every year?
the Europeans have already figured this out.
Keep dodging the fact that the UK has a lower murder rate because they count murders differently than we do
60% of gun deaths in the US are suicides suicide is not a crime
3% are accidents
34% are homicides and in that 34% justifiable shootings are included
The rest are classified as unknown
You assume that everyone murdered with a gun is married?
And of course criminals who kill each other know each other in some capacity and most murderers have criminal records of some kind
Guns are not the problem never have been never will be in fact as you know where there are more legal gun owners there is less crime including murder
Keep dodging the fact that the UK has a lower murder rate because they count murders differently than we do
60% of gun deaths in the US are suicides suicide is not a crime
3% are accidents
34% are homicides and in that 34% justifiable shootings are included
The rest are classified as unknown
Suicides and accidents are just as dead.
and the FBI (since you want to count them as a source) only classify 200 shootings by civilians as 'justified'. that's one out of 165 Gun deaths.
Simply not worth the cost of carnage, because you are compensating for your "shortcomings".
You assume that everyone murdered with a gun is married?
And of course criminals who kill each other know each other in some capacity and most murderers have criminal records of some kind
Guns are not the problem never have been never will be in fact as you know where there are more legal gun owners there is less crime including murder
Wow, guy, so what you are saying is the US with their 11,000 gun murders have less crime than the UK with their 48 gun murders? Un- fucking- believable.
You assume that everyone murdered with a gun is married?
And of course criminals who kill each other know each other in some capacity and most murderers have criminal records of some kind
Guns are not the problem never have been never will be in fact as you know where there are more legal gun owners there is less crime including murder
Wow, guy, so what you are saying is the US with their 11,000 gun murders have less crime than the UK with their 48 gun murders? Un- fucking- believable.
You assume that everyone murdered with a gun is married?
And of course criminals who kill each other know each other in some capacity and most murderers have criminal records of some kind
Guns are not the problem never have been never will be in fact as you know where there are more legal gun owners there is less crime including murder
Wow, guy, so what you are saying is the US with their 11,000 gun murders have less crime than the UK with their 48 gun murders? Un- fucking- believable.
How many for those murders are gang related? Who gives a shit if those thugs get rid of each other? It keeps them from bothering honorable people.
How many of them occur in places where strict gun laws are in place?
Keep dodging the fact that the UK has a lower murder rate because they count murders differently than we do
60% of gun deaths in the US are suicides suicide is not a crime
3% are accidents
34% are homicides and in that 34% justifiable shootings are included
The rest are classified as unknown
Suicides and accidents are just as dead.
and the FBI (since you want to count them as a source) only classify 200 shootings by civilians as 'justified'. that's one out of 165 Gun deaths.
Simply not worth the cost of carnage, because you are compensating for your "shortcomings".
I don't have any shortcomings you don't seem to be able to understand that 99.999% of legal gun owners will never commit a crime with their weapons
I don't have any shortcomings you don't seem to be able to understand that 99.999% of legal gun owners will never commit a crime with their weapons
I don't have any shortcomings you don't seem to be able to understand that 99.999% of legal gun owners will never commit a crime with their weapons
99.99% of lawn darts never killed a kid. We still banned them.
99.999% of side loading cribs didn't result in a baby falling out and smashing his skull. We still banned those.
We pull products off the market all the time when they cause ONE death.
The gun industry is the only one that makes their products deadlier and are rewarded for it.
I don't have any shortcomings you don't seem to be able to understand that 99.999% of legal gun owners will never commit a crime with their weapons
99.99% of lawn darts never killed a kid. We still banned them.
99.999% of side loading cribs didn't result in a baby falling out and smashing his skull. We still banned those.
We pull products off the market all the time when they cause ONE death.
The gun industry is the only one that makes their products deadlier and are rewarded for it.
I don't have any shortcomings you don't seem to be able to understand that 99.999% of legal gun owners will never commit a crime with their weapons
99.99% of lawn darts never killed a kid. We still banned them.
99.999% of side loading cribs didn't result in a baby falling out and smashing his skull. We still banned those.
We pull products off the market all the time when they cause ONE death.
The gun industry is the only one that makes their products deadlier and are rewarded for it.
Guns don't cause death. The people shooting them do
SO here we go with you mixing up your stats againHow many for those murders are gang related? Who gives a shit if those thugs get rid of each other? It keeps them from bothering honorable people.
How many of them occur in places where strict gun laws are in place?
Cleetus, I've been over this one. Out of 16,000 homicides in the US, only 1800 a year are "gang related" according to the National
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And those are the ones that will be most affected by the gun control laws that gun haters want in place. They target people like the two of us yet I've been unable to get anyone in support of stricter gun laws to tell me what kind of background check the person that stole then gun out of my locked car while sitting in the driveway would be subjected to.
SO here we go with you mixing up your stats again
We aren't talking ALL murder just those murders where the weapon was a gun
FYI fists and feet kill more people than all rifles combined even the scary black ones
