Durham: Perkins Coie Allies Connected to Hillary Clinton’s 2016 Campaign Spied on Trump’s Internet Traffic While Trump Was President

[westwall]

Given that the statute of limitations is 5 years, its kinda moot

Maybe.

Wiretapping? You may want to check what Durham is claiming again. They are speaking about the review of DNS data acquired by a university.

Yes, which probably will fall under the wiretapping regs.

 

[westwall]

Given that the statute of limitations is 5 years, its kinda moot

Then why are people talking to Durham?

If they have nothing to fear they would say nothing.

 

[Skylar]

Maybe.



Yes, which probably will fall under the wiretapping regs.

How? What 'wires' were tapped? This was DNS data acquired from a university, presumably in Georgia.

Which statute specifically do you think is more applicable?

 

[Skylar]

Then why are people talking to Durham?

If they have nothing to fear they would say nothing.

If they had nothing to fear, why wouldn't they be truthful?

Perhaps you and I have different base assumptions about human nature.

 

[westwall]

How? What 'wires' were tapped? This was DNS data acquired from a university, presumably in Georgia.

Which statute specifically do you think is more applicable?

Illegal access of a server (which uses optical fibre cables (wire).

Would be my guess.

 

[westwall]

If they had nothing to fear, why wouldn't they be truthful?

Perhaps you and I have different base assumptions about human nature.

Because then that gives Durham avenues of investigation to go down that won't have a statute of limitations.

Lawyers ALWAYS tell you, DON'T TALK TO THE POLICE, ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE INNOCENT!

 

[Dragonlady]

And don’t say that Biden does, either. The harvested ballots from people too dumb or interested to vote on their own don’t count.

When you have to lie to make a point, your post has no validity.

Trump didn't even win the popular vote amongst Republicans. He got the nomination with 44% of the Republican vote. 56% of Republican voters didn't want him either.

 

[Skylar]

Illegal access of a server (which uses optical fibre cables (wire).

Would be my guess.

Unauthorized access to a computer is already covered by 18 U.S. Code § 1030. If Don Jr. using a hacked password to access a secure computer didn't quality for wiretapping under your interpretation, its unlikely DNS data will either.

Further, the 5 year statute of limitation would likely still apply.

18 U.S. Code § 3282 - Offenses not capital

www.law.cornell.edu

 

[Skylar]

Because then that gives Durham avenues of investigation to go down that won't have a statute of limitations.

Lawyers ALWAYS tell you, DON'T TALK TO THE POLICE, ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE INNOCENT!

Such as? 5 years is a pretty standard statute of limitations for federal crimes under Title 18.

18 U.S. Code § 3282 - Offenses not capital

www.law.cornell.edu

 

[Dragonlady]

Because then that gives Durham avenues of investigation to go down that won't have a statute of limitations.

Lawyers ALWAYS tell you, DON'T TALK TO THE POLICE, ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE INNOCENT!

Dunham has nothing. This was just a desperation charge to make it look like he wasn't wasting time, and he has absolutely no evidence of any connection to the Clinton Campaign.

How many times are Republicans going to investigate the Clintons and come up with NOTHING?????

 

[WEATHER53]

So this is as big as if Mueller had something on Trump which he Never did.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Blah Blah Blah......

All I heard was......

"I keep having this fantasy where the Establishment would actually prosecute (or even truly investigate) one of it's own"

Clueless Suckers

 

[Skylar]

So this is as big as if Mueller had something on Trump which he Never did.

Oh, Mueller had plenty on Trump. The Mueller report goes into elaborate detail about outlined 5 different instances that may constitute obstruction of justice.

• In June 2017 President Trump directed White House Counsel Don McGahn to order the firing of the Special Counsel after press reports that Mueller was investigating the President for obstruction of justice;[12] months later Trump asked McGahn to falsely refute press accounts reporting this directive and create a false paper record on this issue – all of which McGahn refused to do.[13]
• After National Security Advisor Michael Flynn was fired in February 2017 for lying to FBI investigators about his contacts with Russian Ambassador Kislyak, Trump cleared his office for a one-on-one meeting with then-FBI Director James Comey and asked Comey to “let [Flynn] go;” he also asked then-Deputy National Security Advisor K.T. McFarland to draft an internal memo saying Trump did not direct Flynn to call Kislyak, which McFarland did not do because she did not know whether that was true.[14]
• In July 2017, the President directed former campaign manager Corey Lewandowski to instruct the Attorney General to limit Mueller’s investigation, a step the Report asserted “was intended to prevent further investigative scrutiny of the President’s and his campaign’s conduct.”[15]
• In 2017 and 2018, the President asked the Attorney General to “un-recuse” himself from the Mueller inquiry, actions from which a “reasonable inference” could be made that “the President believed that an unrecused Attorney General would play a protective role and could shield the President from the ongoing Russia Investigation.”[16]
• The Report raises questions about whether the President, by and through his private attorneys, floated the possibility of pardons for the purpose of influencing the cooperation of Flynn, Manafort, and an unnamed person with law enforcement.

For crying out loud, Trump ordered that fake documents be created to throw off the investigation.

Compare that with Hillary not even being mentioned. Let alone accused of any crime.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Dunham has nothing. This was just a desperation charge to make it look like he wasn't wasting time, and he has absolutely no evidence of any connection to the Clinton Campaign.

How many times are Republicans going to investigate the Clintons and come up with NOTHING?????

News Flash....
The Clintons are corrupt as sin...which is fine with you Marxist freedom haters.
They just will never be held accountable because they basically work for and are the Mafia (of political persuasion)

You're shocked that Bonnie doesn't indict Clyde. What a jackwad.

 

[Skylar]

News Flash....
The Clintons are corrupt as sin...which is fine with you Marxist freedom haters.
They just will never be held accountable because they basically work for and are the Mafia (of political persuasion)

You're shocked that Bonnie doesn't indict Clyde. What a jackwad.

Oh, so a conspiracy.....to justify a conspiracy.

Here's an alternate explanation that works very well: Republicans have shit evidence of crimes committed by the Clintons. Remember the Vince Foster batshit? The accusations that private citizen Clinton somehow had Jeffrey Epstein killed in Federal custody? Remember the nonsense about Seth Rich?

You guys make up stupid accusations that don't hold up to scrutiny....or even common sense.

 

[Dragonlady]

News Flash....
The Clintons are corrupt as sin...which is fine with you Marxist freedom haters.
They just will never be held accountable because they basically work for and are the Mafia (of political persuasion)

You're shocked that Bonnie doesn't indict Clyde. What a jackwad.

Bigger News Flash: They must be the smartest fucking criminals who ever lived since nobody can find a shred of evidence proving their crimes.

Furthermore, they have survived 25+ investigations. Nobody has ever turned on them. No evidence of any crimes has ever been produced. And every investigation is closed with no wrong doing found. All you have to show for the $100 million+ dollars spent investigating them is a lie about a blow job.

Trump had a whole series of investigations done in an effort to "lock her up" and nobody could even find a crime she committed.

30 fucking years of Republicans calling Hillary a criminal, and not one indictment, not one charge, not one conviction - of anyone!!!! For ANYTHING!!!

HOW STUPID DO YOU HAVE TO BE TO CONTINUE TO BELIEVE REPUBLICANS??????

 

[Skylar]

Bigger News Flash: They must be the smartest fucking criminals who ever lived since nobody can find a shred of evidence proving their crimes.

Furthermore, they have survived 25+ investigations. Nobody has ever turned on them. No evidence of any crimes has ever been produced. And every investigation is closed with no wrong doing found. All you have to show for the $100 million+ dollars spent investigating them is a lie about a blow job.

Trump had a whole series of investigations done in an effort to "lock her up" and nobody could even find a crime she committed.

30 fucking years of Republicans calling Hillary a criminal, and not one indictment, not one charge, not one conviction - of anyone!!!! For ANYTHING!!!

HOW STUPID DO YOU HAVE TO BE TO CONTINUE TO BELIEVE REPUBLICANS??????

Pretty fucking dumb. They've cried wolf for literally decades.

 

[Abatis]

He did? Really?

As Durham sets it out, we know he did.

Do you think the contract included sniffing and pulling DNS traffic at the EOP and other locations and then exploiting other data mined by Georgia Tech working in another government contract, for the purpose of gathering derogatory information about Donald Trump and then reporting it to Fusion GPS and Hillary's lawyer so they could establish “an inference” and “narrative”, for the purpose of tying then-candidate Trump to Russia?

Do you really think that was the expected performance / work product contracted for, or was that all extracurricular work performed for some other entity, to some other end, besides resolving DNS requests?

Where is the indictment?

As far as charges, that's gonna be a, "let's see what happens" . . .

Read woodwork201's post UP THREAD HERE

 

[Doc7505]

Hillary Wasn't the Only Trump Rival to Pay Tech Firm That Spied On Him, Biden Also Hired It for 2020 Campaign​

Hillary Clinton Wasn't Only Trump Rival to Pay Spy Tech Firm, Biden Also Hired It for 2020 Campaign

"As set forth in the Indictment, on Sept. 19, 2016 – less than two months before the 2016 U.S. Presidential election – the defendant, a lawyer at a large international law firm"...

beckernews.com

15 Feb 2022 ~~ By Kyle Becker

FEC records unearthed by the Washington Free Beacon show that the Biden campaign in 2020 paid the same tech firm that Hillary Clinton used to allegedly spy on Donald Trump during the 2016 campaign.
“The Biden campaign paid nearly $20,000 to a cybersecurity firm at the center of Special Counsel John Durham’s investigation into the origins of the Trump-Russia probe,” Chuck Ross reported at the Free Beacon.
According to the Federal Election Commission records uncovered by the Free Beacon, the Biden campaign paid Neustar Information Services $18,819 in 2020 for ‘accounting and compliance work.’
~Snip~
“The Indictment alleges that the defendant lied in that meeting, falsely stating to the General Counsel that he was not providing the allegations to the FBI on behalf of any client,” the indictment continues. “In fact, the defendant had assembled and conveyed the allegations to the FBI on behalf of at least two specific clients, including (i) a technology executive (‘Tech Executive-1’) at a U.S.-based Internet company (‘Internet Company-1’), and (ii) the Clinton Campaign.”
~Snip~
The FBI would launch an investigation into the Trump campaign to look into the “odd” Alfa Bank connection. Hillary Clinton even weaponized the political disinformation in an October 2016 tweet.

​

~Snip~
It turns out it wasn’t just the Hillary Clinton campaign that had a relationship with the tech firm that spied on Donald Trump when he was a candidate and president. The Biden campaign hired the same firm prior to the 2020 election.
The Biden and Clinton campaigns are the only two presidential committees to have ever paid Neustar, the Free Beacon noted, but the DCCC also hired the firm before the 2018 midterms.

Commentary:
So, it turns out the Tech Executive #1's company has a name Neustar.
Just for shits and giggles it just so happens that Joey Xi Bai Dung also used Neustar for the paltry sum of twenty grand.
What a coincidence.

 

[Abatis]

She got Hubbel's fat lips. I bet she sucks a mean dick with those jowls.

It is a well known fact that because she is so ugly, getting oral from Chelsea Clinton is considered anal sex.