Enemy of my people

[g5000]

It's all about passing something, anything. That it does not benefit the middle class or spur consumption, which was its raison d'etre, are all irrelevant now. Just get a bill through both chambers and into committee. The gop senate rejected that same reasoning on healthcare. My guess is the spineless gimps will pass it, unless Corker and Heller find some stones, and to date neither have shown any

Makes you kinda long for a Govt shut-down, where / when they are out of work and can't do any more harm for a while, huh?

I'd be ok with a two year timeout. Both progressives and conservatives have fundamental issues internally, and a tax cut just to give the gop something to run on and get out gop voters is pathetic.

Most fundamentally - where are the workers going to come from and what will cause wages to rise?

In Trump country, a university confronts its skeptics

Our "best" colleges and universities are reserved for the very rich, the international students, and a few highly motivated scholarship kids.

In Trump country, a university confronts its skeptics

With the mass exodus of illegal immigration to their own countries or Canada, is going to free up jobs that will be filled by working US citizens. When there isn't as many workers than jobs, then wages go up. Shame you didn't finish school to learn economics...
I today am making more than most college students with a 4 or 6 year degree. College is fucking worthless right now as too many kids come out of it with degrees in "Anal" sex studies....I guess the porn industry can still hire those grads...

Hey dumb shit.

Take a look at the income disparities between high school grads and college grads, and then try to come back here and tell us "college is fucking worthless" with a straight face.

You're from the crowd which thinks dossier is a "fancy word".

Yeah, I have a few high school grads making 40 dollars an hour banging shingles on a house, while college pukes are working at Starbucks making 10 bucks if they are lucky. G, you need to stop trying to compete in the realm of ideas, as your lack of intellectual fortitude is showing...

Only a retard uses anecdotes to back up their bogus claims.

Weekly earnings by educational attainment in first quarter 2016 : The Economics Daily: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

 

[bendog]

In the House, Ways and Means Committee Chair Rep. Kevin Brady was making last-minute changes before the panel votes Thursday to deliver it to the full House. Brady's changes presumably are being made to meet the $1.5 trillion maximum that the bill is allowed to add to the $20 trillion deficit. A preliminary estimate by Congress' nonpartisan Joint Committee on Taxation said the House measure as currently written would add $74 billion more to 10-year deficits than allowed.

Senate bill to unwrap with tax cuts, end to local deduction

kneeling at football games will become commonplace - the entire stadium would be praying the fucking Republicans would leave the country .

$ 20 TRILLION DOLLAR SUCKERS !!!!!!!!!!!

You do realize that 74 billion funds the government for about 8 days, and you are concerned about that much over a 10 year period?

And the loss of the local deduction for most people under $200k will be made up by the increases in the standard and personal deductions.

Not on the coasts, and this pig was advertised as a middle class cut.

I have a very simple solution for California and New York with respect to the loss of the state income tax deduction.

Let California and New York increase their tax deductions at the state level. Let California and New York pull their own weight if they like tax expenditures so much.

Isn't that the whole point of removing/limiting the local tax deduction?

Removing tax deductions, credits, and exemptions allows for responsibly lowering the tax rates for everyone. (<<< giant hint)

California, New York and other high income states don't like having their deductions (government gifts) taken away from them.

If they like their government gifts so much, then let their respective states give them some. They need to stop asking the rest of the country to pay higher tax rates so they can enjoy government gifts at our expense.

But aren't the removing expenditures for people on the coasts, some middle class, providing revenue for corp tax cuts and avoiding removing expenditures for corps? And don't the income tax cuts made give the top 1% and .1% much greater dollar cuts than those middle class people actually getting cuts?

In short, there's no real tax reform in this bill. It's another supply side trickle down financed with debt and cuts for the middle class.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Makes you kinda long for a Govt shut-down, where / when they are out of work and can't do any more harm for a while, huh?

I'd be ok with a two year timeout. Both progressives and conservatives have fundamental issues internally, and a tax cut just to give the gop something to run on and get out gop voters is pathetic.

Most fundamentally - where are the workers going to come from and what will cause wages to rise?

In Trump country, a university confronts its skeptics

Our "best" colleges and universities are reserved for the very rich, the international students, and a few highly motivated scholarship kids.

In Trump country, a university confronts its skeptics

With the mass exodus of illegal immigration to their own countries or Canada, is going to free up jobs that will be filled by working US citizens. When there isn't as many workers than jobs, then wages go up. Shame you didn't finish school to learn economics...
I today am making more than most college students with a 4 or 6 year degree. College is fucking worthless right now as too many kids come out of it with degrees in "Anal" sex studies....I guess the porn industry can still hire those grads...

Hey dumb shit.

Take a look at the income disparities between high school grads and college grads, and then try to come back here and tell us "college is fucking worthless" with a straight face.

You're from the crowd which thinks dossier is a "fancy word".

Yeah, I have a few high school grads making 40 dollars an hour banging shingles on a house, while college pukes are working at Starbucks making 10 bucks if they are lucky. G, you need to stop trying to compete in the realm of ideas, as your lack of intellectual fortitude is showing...

Only a retard uses anecdotes to back up their bogus claims.

Weekly earnings by educational attainment in first quarter 2016 : The Economics Daily: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

Idiots don't know what supply and demand means.. When there is a shortage of trade workers and a gluttony of college grads, then wages reflect those disparities. You need to stop before you hurt yourself.

Labor Shortages Loom as Most-In-Demand Group of Workers Retire

Skilled trades" refers to a number of occupations which require specific hands-on skills, such as machinists, welders, plumbers, and electricians. These occupations are a critical part of the nation's workforce, and play key roles in the fields of manufacturing, construction, and repair.

Starbucks may make a lot of coffee, but the skills of a barista just cant pay that much.....

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

You do realize that 74 billion funds the government for about 8 days, and you are concerned about that much over a 10 year period?

And the loss of the local deduction for most people under $200k will be made up by the increases in the standard and personal deductions.

Not on the coasts, and this pig was advertised as a middle class cut.

I have a very simple solution for California and New York with respect to the loss of the state income tax deduction.

Let California and New York increase their tax deductions at the state level. Let California and New York pull their own weight if they like tax expenditures so much.

Isn't that the whole point of removing/limiting the local tax deduction?

Removing tax deductions, credits, and exemptions allows for responsibly lowering the tax rates for everyone. (<<< giant hint)

California, New York and other high income states don't like having their deductions (government gifts) taken away from them.

If they like their government gifts so much, then let their respective states give them some. They need to stop asking the rest of the country to pay higher tax rates so they can enjoy government gifts at our expense.

But aren't the removing expenditures for people on the coasts, some middle class, providing revenue for corp tax cuts and avoiding removing expenditures for corps? And don't the income tax cuts made give the top 1% and .1% much greater dollar cuts than those middle class people actually getting cuts?

Why is allowing people to keep MORE of their own money a bad thing?

 

[g5000]

I'd be ok with a two year timeout. Both progressives and conservatives have fundamental issues internally, and a tax cut just to give the gop something to run on and get out gop voters is pathetic.

Most fundamentally - where are the workers going to come from and what will cause wages to rise?

In Trump country, a university confronts its skeptics

Our "best" colleges and universities are reserved for the very rich, the international students, and a few highly motivated scholarship kids.

In Trump country, a university confronts its skeptics

With the mass exodus of illegal immigration to their own countries or Canada, is going to free up jobs that will be filled by working US citizens. When there isn't as many workers than jobs, then wages go up. Shame you didn't finish school to learn economics...
I today am making more than most college students with a 4 or 6 year degree. College is fucking worthless right now as too many kids come out of it with degrees in "Anal" sex studies....I guess the porn industry can still hire those grads...

Hey dumb shit.

Take a look at the income disparities between high school grads and college grads, and then try to come back here and tell us "college is fucking worthless" with a straight face.

You're from the crowd which thinks dossier is a "fancy word".

Yeah, I have a few high school grads making 40 dollars an hour banging shingles on a house, while college pukes are working at Starbucks making 10 bucks if they are lucky. G, you need to stop trying to compete in the realm of ideas, as your lack of intellectual fortitude is showing...

Only a retard uses anecdotes to back up their bogus claims.

Weekly earnings by educational attainment in first quarter 2016 : The Economics Daily: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

Idiots don't know what supply and demand means.. When there is a shortage of trade workers and a gluttony of college grads, then wages reflect those disparities. You need to stop before you hurt yourself.

Labor Shortages Loom as Most-In-Demand Group of Workers Retire

Skilled trades" refers to a number of occupations which require specific hands-on skills, such as machinists, welders, plumbers, and electricians. These occupations are a critical part of the nation's workforce, and play key roles in the fields of manufacturing, construction, and repair.

Starbucks may make a lot of coffee, but the skills of a barista just cant pay that much.....

"A gluttony of college grads"...

 

[g5000]

Not on the coasts, and this pig was advertised as a middle class cut.

I have a very simple solution for California and New York with respect to the loss of the state income tax deduction.

Let California and New York increase their tax deductions at the state level. Let California and New York pull their own weight if they like tax expenditures so much.

Isn't that the whole point of removing/limiting the local tax deduction?

Removing tax deductions, credits, and exemptions allows for responsibly lowering the tax rates for everyone. (<<< giant hint)

California, New York and other high income states don't like having their deductions (government gifts) taken away from them.

If they like their government gifts so much, then let their respective states give them some. They need to stop asking the rest of the country to pay higher tax rates so they can enjoy government gifts at our expense.

But aren't the removing expenditures for people on the coasts, some middle class, providing revenue for corp tax cuts and avoiding removing expenditures for corps? And don't the income tax cuts made give the top 1% and .1% much greater dollar cuts than those middle class people actually getting cuts?

Why is allowing people to keep MORE of their own money a bad thing?

Deductions, exemptions, and credits are paid for by raising tax rates on EVERYONE.

Therefore, a deduction is NOT your money. You are stealing from EVERY taxpayer, including yourself.

 

[g5000]

Unemployment rates by educational attainment in April 2015 : The Economics Daily: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

Like I said, the higher your education, the lower your unemployment rate.

Any more bullshit claims of yours I can blow out of the water for you, andaronjim?

"A gluttony of college grads".

 

[g5000]

The thieving mentalities who steal from every taxpayer seem to believe that entities earning identical incomes should not be paying identical taxes.

They want everyone else to pay higher taxes so they can pay less.

Pseudo-

Cons.


Fake

Conservatives.

 

[g5000]

The mortgage interest deduction (MID) is direct government intervention in the housing market.

Pseudocons want this government behavioral control.

The MID actually causes the cost of houses to be higher than without the MID.

Higher tax rates. Higher cost of homes. Because of government interference in the free market.


Fake

Conservatives.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

I have a very simple solution for California and New York with respect to the loss of the state income tax deduction.

Let California and New York increase their tax deductions at the state level. Let California and New York pull their own weight if they like tax expenditures so much.

Isn't that the whole point of removing/limiting the local tax deduction?

Removing tax deductions, credits, and exemptions allows for responsibly lowering the tax rates for everyone. (<<< giant hint)

California, New York and other high income states don't like having their deductions (government gifts) taken away from them.

If they like their government gifts so much, then let their respective states give them some. They need to stop asking the rest of the country to pay higher tax rates so they can enjoy government gifts at our expense.

But aren't the removing expenditures for people on the coasts, some middle class, providing revenue for corp tax cuts and avoiding removing expenditures for corps? And don't the income tax cuts made give the top 1% and .1% much greater dollar cuts than those middle class people actually getting cuts?

Why is allowing people to keep MORE of their own money a bad thing?

Deductions, exemptions, and credits are paid for by raising tax rates on EVERYONE.

Therefore, a deduction is NOT your money. You are stealing from EVERY taxpayer, including yourself.

So when I was in Saudi Arabia not paying any taxes I was stealing your money? You just made me a very happy man.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Unemployment rates by educational attainment in April 2015 : The Economics Daily: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

Like I said, the higher your education, the lower your unemployment rate.

Any more bullshit claims of yours I can blow out of the water for you, andaronjim?

"A gluttony of college grads".

I wonder, do people who get an EIC steal from you?

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Unemployment rates by educational attainment in April 2015 : The Economics Daily: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

Like I said, the higher your education, the lower your unemployment rate.

Any more bullshit claims of yours I can blow out of the water for you, andaronjim?

"A gluttony of college grads".

Slightly Fewer College Graduates Will End Up Working at Starbucks or J.Crew This Year

Slightly Fewer College Graduates Will End Up Working at Starbucks or J.Crew This Year

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Thank Obama.

And Bush

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Thank Obama.

And Bush

Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, and Maxine Waters, was the 2007 housing collapse.

 

[g5000]

Unemployment rates by educational attainment in April 2015 : The Economics Daily: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

Like I said, the higher your education, the lower your unemployment rate.

Any more bullshit claims of yours I can blow out of the water for you, andaronjim?

"A gluttony of college grads".

I wonder, do people who get an EIC steal from you?

Recipients of the EITC increase their productivity. Thus it actually nets positive revenue returns in the long run, and lifts people out of poverty.

So it is not theft.

It is the only tax expenditure with which I do not have a problem.

 

[g5000]

Unemployment rates by educational attainment in April 2015 : The Economics Daily: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

Like I said, the higher your education, the lower your unemployment rate.

Any more bullshit claims of yours I can blow out of the water for you, andaronjim?

"A gluttony of college grads".

Slightly Fewer College Graduates Will End Up Working at Starbucks or J.Crew This Year

Slightly Fewer College Graduates Will End Up Working at Starbucks or J.Crew This Year

You didn't read your link, did you.

 

[g5000]

Analysis | The Finance 202: Tax drama moves to Senate as Trump takes aim at House bill

That bill would mean an increase next year on the burden of 9 percent of those earning between $48,600 and $86,100 — a number that would jump to 31 percent of those taxpayers by 2027, according to a study the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center released Wednesday. That projection found that in a decade, the wealthiest 1 percent of households would reap about half the gains from the tax cut.

The assessment tracks with one from the Joint Committee on Taxation this week that found 11 percent of those earning between $75,000 and $100,000 would see a tax hike in 2019, and one in five households would see a hike by 2027.

 

[bendog]

The mortgage interest deduction (MID) is direct government intervention in the housing market.

Pseudocons want this government behavioral control.

The MID actually causes the cost of houses to be higher than without the MID.

Higher tax rates. Higher cost of homes. Because of government interference in the free market.


Fake

Conservatives.

Two things strike me (-: 1. Where local property taxes are higher, in my experience so are housing prices. Thus, there's sort of a double whammy to govt interference in markets with these two expenditures. And, where local school taxes are low, and housing is as well, it makes private K-12 education more attainable for some .... yet, arguably public schools in CA or NY are better than in say Kansas. But regardless, the gummit is a market player.

2. And on NPR the other day they interviewed an economist from Wharton who said the mortgage interest deduction is not incredibliy effective in getting people to buy homes (it may be in getting people to buy more expensive homes, but the guy didn't weigh in there). HOWEVER, the EITC expenditure has shown itself to be effective in increasing employment, and raising it by 10% would, in his opinion, reduce unemployment even further.

 

[blastoff]

It always did matter...or should have.

When Democrats took over the House and Senate they stopped passing budgets...DESPITE THERE BEING A LAW THAT STATED THEY HAD TO PASS A BUDGET EVERY YEAR. Continuing Resolutions became the way to go for politicians who did not want their names in the record books as having voted for an official budget that was packed with pork and added trillions to the debt.

The GOP are showing they are just as capable of being fiscally irresponsible as the Democrats.

SSDP - Same Shite, Different PARTY.

Which is in part why Trump is in the White House.

 

[Weatherman2020]

In the House, Ways and Means Committee Chair Rep. Kevin Brady was making last-minute changes before the panel votes Thursday to deliver it to the full House. Brady's changes presumably are being made to meet the $1.5 trillion maximum that the bill is allowed to add to the $20 trillion deficit. A preliminary estimate by Congress' nonpartisan Joint Committee on Taxation said the House measure as currently written would add $74 billion more to 10-year deficits than allowed.

Senate bill to unwrap with tax cuts, end to local deduction

kneeling at football games will become commonplace - the entire stadium would be praying the fucking Republicans would leave the country .

$ 20 TRILLION DOLLAR SUCKERS !!!!!!!!!!!

Trump is truly a miracle worker. For the first time in a decade the left are concerned about spending.

you refuse to let soak through your thick fucking skull that I never voted for anyone on the left -

write this down

just because someone is anti-Trump doesnt mean they're from the left ... you stupid bitch.

100% of everyone of you pissant anti debt-deficit RW WHORES are willing to suck Trumps dick bone dry and ignore $1.5 TRILLION DOLLARS.

HYPOCRITE SOB BE THY NAME


GFY

Lol you fucking told me you were voting for hillary. Sleazeball

I said only if it looked likeTrump could possibly win I would vote for Clinton .. dumbass chump-hump

You are a damn liar. But it isnt a surprise.

Funny how no one wants the label of being a leftist. They all deny it, I wonder why.