Even Jesus Is A Zionist

[irosie91]

How ignorant can this fool get? She's even associated with Iranian Islamists and doesn't know the basic stuff about Iran.

Zoroastrianism became the official religion of the Persian Empire, but it virtually disappeared in Persia after the Muslim invasion of 637 AD.

Zoroastrianism /ˌzɒroʊˈæstriənɪzəm/, also called Zarathustraism, Mazdaism and Magianism, is an ancient Iranian religion and a religious philosophy. It was once the state religion of the Achaemenid, Parthian, and Sasanian empires. Estimates of the current number of Zoroastrians worldwide vary between 145,000 and 2.6 million.

sheeeesh she even decided that christianity is an "ANCIENT PERSIAN RELIGION"

for insight into her filth-------find some zoroastrians-----they do exist-----in fact---lots
in Israel where they found refuge from sherri's filth. ----and now for a minor factoid from
rosie-------zoroastrians and jews DID have some disputes of dogma----but unlike the FILTH--
they did not murder each other over it

Zoroastrianism is the ancient, pre-Islamic religion of Persia (modern Iran). It survives there in isolated areas but more prosperously in India, where the descendants of Zoroastrian Persian immigrants are known as Parsis, or Parsees. In India the religion is called Parsiism.
Zoroastrianism - ReligionFacts

YES!!!! Interestingly----the jews of mumbai (bombay) who are generally escapees from the filth of meccaism in places like Iraq---and the zoroastrians of mumbai----GET ALONG FINE ---------in fact they get along with the hindus and christians in that culturally diverse
city too. everything works out-----with ONE PROBLEM ------guess which group is
THE PROBLEM (I have my information from christians, hindus, zoroastrians and
jews from MUMBAI----individually) Anyone ever consider WHY muslims attacked and
mutilated in OBSCENE MANNER FOR THE GLORY OF ALLAH-----in mumbai? Mumbai,
where hindus, jews, christians and zoroastrians live happily is a BONE IN THE THROAT
OF THE UMMAH------it is also "bollywood" where CREATIVITY defies the stink of
meccaism

 

[editec]

childish blather

 

[MJB12741]

LOL! Is that right? Well Sherri, let us discuss Iranian history for all here to see just who is the fool. Agreed?

According to the Zorastrians whose land in Persia those she supports stole, Sherri is a dregvant. Not so bad compared to what Christians call her.

very good sherri-----in fact you are right----Out of the darkness G-d created
LIGHT AND ZIONISM The creation story is fascinating. Its major theme is
FREE WILL In fact CHOICE AND FREE WILL ARE THE MAJOR THEMES of the
entire book of Genesis. Man is the only aspect of the creation that was granted
FREE WILL a very important concept -----It explains both good and evil and
the utter filth which is you. Of the ancient writings-----the hebrew scriptures
MOST ASSERTIVELY expressed a belief in MAN'S FREE WILL The greek
scriptural writings assert a belief in FATE and control on the affairs of man by a
bunch of not so pleasant "gods" (like your dog isa) Hindu writings get into
lots of "FATE" too. and islamic theology places all of human events as the will of
a really nasty "god" and is a lot more FATALISTIC than even hinduism

An interesting point-----even the "angels" do not have as much freewill or
choice as does MAN. Without a concept of FREE WILL----one does not have
any explanation for evil such as is you-----unless one theorizes a really nasty "god"

An answer to the dilemma exists in the belief by some jerks of a "god of evil"
that lots of jerks call the "DEVIL" a kind of "god of hell" A belief in this
"god" is more like DUALISM than monotheism Satan in jewish theology is not
a "god". In fact it is more a concept than a being and ----has no actual
free will.

Your ignorance of Iranian history is certainly on display.

Zoroastrianism is a religion, not a people of Iran.

Persian people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Historically, Persian civilization created three major religions:*Zoroastrianism,*Manichaeism, which heavily influenced*Saint Augustine*before he turned to*Christianity, and the*Bahá'í Faith.

A.fourth religion that arose from ancient Iran is*Mazdakism, which has been dubbed the first communistic ideology.

Both Mazdakism and Manichaeism were sub-branches of Zoroastrianism that is said to be the first*monotheistic*religion.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Proverbs 22:28 KJV
King James Version

Remove not the ancient landmark, which thy fathers have set .

In 1994 Christian Zionist leaders, including Pat Robertson and Ralph Reed, publicly condemned the policies of the Israeli government under Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin, who was seeking a peace settlement with the Palestinians. Robertson has also attacked the policies of Israeli foreign minister Shimon Peres.

Modern-day Israelis and other Jews are well aware of the fact that the Christian Zionists believe, based on a mistaken interpretation of Zechariah 13:8, that there must be a devastating war in the Middle East in which two-thirds of all the Jews will be slaughtered.

It is commonly understood that the Christian Zionists do not really care about what is best for the Jews, as evidenced by their constant lobbying efforts to stir up World War III in the Middle East. Million Jews may wind up dead, but it will be good for sales of the Armageddon videos that are peddled on the televangelists’ broadcasts and web-sites.


Zionism is based on a complete misunderstanding of what the Bible teaches. It is true that God gave Palestine to Hebrews in ancient times. But the Bible teaches that their possession of the land was under a conditional covenant with Jehovah.

If the Hebrews disobeyed their God, they would lose the land.

This is clearly taught in Genesis 17:9-14, Exodus 19:4-5, Leviticus 26:40-45, Deuteronomy 7:12, Joshua 23:15-16, 1 Kings 9:6-9, 2 Chronicles 7:19-22, Jeremiah 34:12-22, Ezekiel 33:23-29, Matthew 21:43, etc.

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS "PALESTINE"

True. There is no mention of the word Palestine or Palestinian in the Torah or the New Testament. No where in the bible does it say God gave "Palestine" to the Hebrews. That word is never used. The land of Israel is the inheritance of Isaac and his descendants.

As to the Hebrews losing their inheritance? Essau did. Jacob did not. Obadiah 1:18 -20 clearly states the House of Jacob and the House of Joseph will consume the House of Esau ( modern day "palestinian people" you refer to ) like stubble. That hasn't happened yet but it will. The Hebrews haven't lost a thing. Everything has been restored. They have a covenant, not a contract. You need to understand what the term covenant means. When G-d makes a covenant He doesn't break it. It doesn't have an expiration date. Covenant means covenant.

 

[Shaarona]

Proverbs 22:28 KJV
King James Version

Remove not the ancient landmark, which thy fathers have set .

In 1994 Christian Zionist leaders, including Pat Robertson and Ralph Reed, publicly condemned the policies of the Israeli government under Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin, who was seeking a peace settlement with the Palestinians. Robertson has also attacked the policies of Israeli foreign minister Shimon Peres.

Modern-day Israelis and other Jews are well aware of the fact that the Christian Zionists believe, based on a mistaken interpretation of Zechariah 13:8, that there must be a devastating war in the Middle East in which two-thirds of all the Jews will be slaughtered.

It is commonly understood that the Christian Zionists do not really care about what is best for the Jews, as evidenced by their constant lobbying efforts to stir up World War III in the Middle East. Million Jews may wind up dead, but it will be good for sales of the Armageddon videos that are peddled on the televangelists’ broadcasts and web-sites.


Zionism is based on a complete misunderstanding of what the Bible teaches. It is true that God gave Palestine to Hebrews in ancient times. But the Bible teaches that their possession of the land was under a conditional covenant with Jehovah.

If the Hebrews disobeyed their God, they would lose the land.

This is clearly taught in Genesis 17:9-14, Exodus 19:4-5, Leviticus 26:40-45, Deuteronomy 7:12, Joshua 23:15-16, 1 Kings 9:6-9, 2 Chronicles 7:19-22, Jeremiah 34:12-22, Ezekiel 33:23-29, Matthew 21:43, etc.

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS "PALESTINE"

True. There is no mention of the word Palestine or Palestinian in the Torah or the New Testament. No where in the bible does it say God gave "Palestine" to the Hebrews. That word is never used. The land of Israel is the inheritance of Isaac and his descendants.

As to the Hebrews losing their inheritance? Essau did. Jacob did not. Obadiah 1:18 -20 clearly states the House of Jacob and the House of Joseph will consume the House of Esau ( modern day "palestinian people" you refer to ) like stubble. That hasn't happened yet but it will. The Hebrews haven't lost a thing. Everything has been restored. They have a covenant, not a contract. You need to understand what the term covenant means. When G-d makes a covenant He doesn't break it. It doesn't have an expiration date. Covenant means covenant.

Read your Torah.. They were warned that if they broke the covenant, God would take it away from them.

Ezekial 33

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

The names "Palestine" and "Palestina" occur four times in the Old Testament portion of the King James Bible (1611).

What have ye to do with me, O Tyre, and Sidon,*
and all the coasts of*Palestine? (Joel 3:4a = 4:4a Heb)

The people shall hear, and be afraid;
sorrow shall take hold of the inhabitants of*Palestina. (Exod 15:14)

Rejoice not thou, whole*Palestina*... (Isa 14:29a)

Howl, O gate; cry, O city,
thou whole*Palestina, art dissolved. (Isa 14:31a)

Hebrew Streams: "Palestine" in the Bible

 

[irosie91]

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS "PALESTINE"

True. There is no mention of the word Palestine or Palestinian in the Torah or the New Testament. No where in the bible does it say God gave "Palestine" to the Hebrews. That word is never used. The land of Israel is the inheritance of Isaac and his descendants.

As to the Hebrews losing their inheritance? Essau did. Jacob did not. Obadiah 1:18 -20 clearly states the House of Jacob and the House of Joseph will consume the House of Esau ( modern day "palestinian people" you refer to ) like stubble. That hasn't happened yet but it will. The Hebrews haven't lost a thing. Everything has been restored. They have a covenant, not a contract. You need to understand what the term covenant means. When G-d makes a covenant He doesn't break it. It doesn't have an expiration date. Covenant means covenant.

Read your Torah.. They were warned that if they broke the covenant, God would take it away from them.

Ezekial 33

Ezekiel is not "the torah" Ya Jerk. Ezekiel is a kinda morbid gothic poet
from Iraq of the school of JEREMIAH Interestingly the meccaist dogs have
defiled his tomb-----recently----in the usual manner of meccaist dogs

 

[Shaarona]

True. There is no mention of the word Palestine or Palestinian in the Torah or the New Testament. No where in the bible does it say God gave "Palestine" to the Hebrews. That word is never used. The land of Israel is the inheritance of Isaac and his descendants.

As to the Hebrews losing their inheritance? Essau did. Jacob did not. Obadiah 1:18 -20 clearly states the House of Jacob and the House of Joseph will consume the House of Esau ( modern day "palestinian people" you refer to ) like stubble. That hasn't happened yet but it will. The Hebrews haven't lost a thing. Everything has been restored. They have a covenant, not a contract. You need to understand what the term covenant means. When G-d makes a covenant He doesn't break it. It doesn't have an expiration date. Covenant means covenant.

Read your Torah.. They were warned that if they broke the covenant, God would take it away from them.

Ezekial 33

Ezekiel is not "the torah" Ya Jerk. Ezekiel is a kinda morbid gothic poet
from Iraq of the school of JEREMIAH Interestingly the meccaist dogs have
defiled his tomb-----recently----in the usual manner of meccaist dogs

Deuteronomy 31:16 And the LORD said unto Moses, Behold, thou shalt sleep with thy fathers; and this people will rise up, and go a whoring after the gods of the strangers of the land, whither they go to be among them, and will forsake me, and break my covenant which I have made with them.

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

And Jesus is nowhere in The New Testament called a Zionist.

 

[irosie91]

Read your Torah.. They were warned that if they broke the covenant, God would take it away from them.

Ezekial 33

Ezekiel is not "the torah" Ya Jerk. Ezekiel is a kinda morbid gothic poet
from Iraq of the school of JEREMIAH Interestingly the meccaist dogs have
defiled his tomb-----recently----in the usual manner of meccaist dogs

Deuteronomy 31:16 And the LORD said unto Moses, Behold, thou shalt sleep with thy fathers; and this people will rise up, and go a whoring after the gods of the strangers of the land, whither they go to be among them, and will forsake me, and break my covenant which I have made with them.

try again------and READ THE BOOK---which makes it clear that no matter what the
whores do------ISRAEL WILL ALWAYS "go up" do you have any idea what
"GO UP" means in context? ------your problem is that you do not understand the
language of the bible

 

[Shaarona]

Hebrew Streams: "Palestine" in the Bible

The names "Palestine" and "Palestina" occur four times in the Old Testament portion of the King James Bible (1611), the most influential English translation in history.

What have ye to do with me, O Tyre, and Sidon,
and all the coasts of Palestine? (Joel 3:4a = 4:4a Heb)

The people shall hear, and be afraid;
sorrow shall take hold of the inhabitants of Palestina. (Exod 15:14)

Rejoice not thou, whole Palestina ... (Isa 14:29a)

Howl, O gate; cry, O city,
thou whole Palestina, art dissolved. (Isa 14:31a)

A few English versions since the KJV occasionally use "Palestine." But most use the term "Philistia." For example at: Exod 15:14; Isa 14:29, 31; Joel 3:4; Ps 60:8; 83:7; 87:4; 108:9 (NASB-95). [Note 1]



Whence “Palestine”
The oldest known reference to "Palestine" is in the work of Greek historian Herodotus (ca. 484–425). He says Palaistine is "part of Syria" along the Mediterranean coast. [Note 2]



palaistine

Some 500 years later, Jewish historian Josephus (37-100) quotes Herodotus in referring to "Syria of Palaistine" and "the Syrians that are in Palaistine are circumcised." But Josephus quickly "corrects" Herodotus by noting that the only "inhabitants of Palaistine [who] are circumcised [are] Jews." [Note 3]

The 4th century church historian Eusebius (writing in Greek) twice mentions "Palaistine" in his Ecclesiastical History (2.2.6; 7.15.1). He notes that the coastal city Caesarea is in that region.

 

[MJB12741]

It sure does appear that Shaarona needs to bone up on the Tanakh before making himself a total laughing stock. "Read your Torah." LOL!

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS "PALESTINE"

True. There is no mention of the word Palestine or Palestinian in the Torah or the New Testament. No where in the bible does it say God gave "Palestine" to the Hebrews. That word is never used. The land of Israel is the inheritance of Isaac and his descendants.

As to the Hebrews losing their inheritance? Essau did. Jacob did not. Obadiah 1:18 -20 clearly states the House of Jacob and the House of Joseph will consume the House of Esau ( modern day "palestinian people" you refer to ) like stubble. That hasn't happened yet but it will. The Hebrews haven't lost a thing. Everything has been restored. They have a covenant, not a contract. You need to understand what the term covenant means. When G-d makes a covenant He doesn't break it. It doesn't have an expiration date. Covenant means covenant.

Read your Torah.. They were warned that if they broke the covenant, God would take it away from them.

Ezekial 33

 

[Shaarona]

In the Hebrew Bible there is one word behind the various English renderings Palestine, Palestina, and Philistia. It is Peleshet.


Dan 11:30a — "...he shall be grieved and discouraged and turn back [to Palestine] and carry out his rage and indignation against the holy covenant and God's people."

Dan 11:41a — "He shall enter into the glorious land [Palestine], and many shall be overthrown."

Herodotus [c. 484–c. 425]

Histories 1.105.1 — "From there they marched against Egypt: and when they were in the part of Syria called Palestine, Psalmmetichus king of Egypt met them and persuaded them with gifts and prayers to come no further." [Eng. trans. A.D. Godley]

Hebrew Streams: "Palestine" in the Bible

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

Exodus is part of The Torah and Palestine is spoken of there, so it is Jeremiah who has spoken falsely when she claimed Palestine is not spoken of in the Torah.

Jeremiah needs to learn about the Torah.

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

Torah*(TOH-ruh)In its narrowest sense, Torah the first five books of the Bible: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy, sometimes called the Pentateuch or the Five*Books of Moses. In its broadest sense, Torah is the entire body of Jewish teachings.

Definition: Torah

 

[MJB12741]

So, what about my offer to discuss Persian history with you?

Exodus is part of The Torah and Palestine is spoken of there, so it is Jeremiah who has spoken falsely when she claimed Palestine is not spoken of in the Torah.

Jeremiah needs to learn about the Torah.

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

SOME posters have serious English comprehension problems here, they claim a mere citing of a Bible verse in The New Testament is a claim that verse is part of The Old Testament or Torah. It is no such thing, but verses in The New Testament do in fact speak about incidents that happened in an earlier time and in The Old Testament.

An illustration, Jesus Himself speaks about the land in His Sermon on the Mount, He says the meek shall inherit the land. Now, over many different Bible translations, we see different words for the land, some translations today use the word world for land.

I see truth in both statements when I look upon lands where people have lived under Colonialism and Occupations, whether it be Palestine or South Africa or India or America. No matter what atrocities people suffer, some survive and meekness so describes many of those who survive
They survive on the land. Thus, we see the truth in Jesus words. And perhaps His words also speak about the people and their relationship with God. I expect that explains much about how they survived all that they survived.

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

So, what about my offer to discuss Persian history with you?

Exodus is part of The Torah and Palestine is spoken of there, so it is Jeremiah who has spoken falsely when she claimed Palestine is not spoken of in the Torah.

Jeremiah needs to learn about the Torah.

Start a thread on the issue you want to discuss, Persian history certainly has nothing to do with this thread topic

It is my husband who is really knowledgeable about Persian history, as he was born a Persian and lived in Persia/ aka Iran for the first over 20 years of his life.

And he is one of those people who never forgets all that history he learned, he has like a photographic memory about history. He loves history and Persia / aka Iran certainly has a long and rich and distinquished history.

Interesting, Herodotus (the worlds first historian) wrote about both a Palestine and a Persia, close to 2500 years ago, but nothing about an Israel.

 

[MJB12741]

Would you like me to join on the Iran board? For now let me just ask you or your husband a question. Do you or do you not agree that no Muslim ever has been, or ever can be, a "Persian"?

So, what about my offer to discuss Persian history with you?

Exodus is part of The Torah and Palestine is spoken of there, so it is Jeremiah who has spoken falsely when she claimed Palestine is not spoken of in the Torah.

Jeremiah needs to learn about the Torah.

Start a thread on the issue you want to discuss, Persian history certainly has nothing to do with this thread topic

It is my husband who is really knowledgeable about Persian history, as he was born a Persian and lived in Persia/ aka Iran for the first over 20 years of his life.

And he is one of those people who never forgets all that history he learned, he has like a photographic memory about history. He loves history and Persia / aka Iran certainly has a long and rich and distinquished history.

Interesting, Herodotus (the worlds first historian) wrote about both a Palestine and a Persia, close to 2500 years ago, but nothing about an Israel.

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

Would you like me to join on the Iran board? For now let me just ask you or your husband a question. Do you or do you not agree that no Muslim ever has been, or ever can be, a "Persian"?

So, what about my offer to discuss Persian history with you?

Start a thread on the issue you want to discuss, Persian history certainly has nothing to do with this thread topic

It is my husband who is really knowledgeable about Persian history, as he was born a Persian and lived in Persia/ aka Iran for the first over 20 years of his life.

And he is one of those people who never forgets all that history he learned, he has like a photographic memory about history. He loves history and Persia / aka Iran certainly has a long and rich and distinquished history.

Interesting, Herodotus (the worlds first historian) wrote about both a Palestine and a Persia, close to 2500 years ago, but nothing about an Israel.

Of course, neither I nor my husband agree the inhabitants of Iran are not Persian.

THAT is like claiming any Palestinian is no longer a Palestinian because Israel exists as a nation today and controls the land.

OF course, Islam has had an effect on Iran and I certainly agree one can argue over whether that is positive or negative.

Start a thread on what you want to discuss, here or in the Iran subforum.

But the people of Iran remain Persians.