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In this case, theory does not apply. A theory requires facts. At best, God as an hypothesis.
And your post is an opinon about theories and hypothesis which totally misses the point he was trying to relay - Evolution Does Occur - perhaps nop\t DarwinianTextbook evolution , but species do evolve adapt and mutate.
Significant differences in once isolated Human Populations that developed over time are a prime example of that.
No, it is not my opinion. We are discussing science and in science a theory summarizes an hypothesis or group of hypotheses after repeated testing. I was responding to his comment that God was a theory unsupported by scientific evidence. In science, you cannot have a theory unsupported by evidence.
Hey, the Deity may be perfect, but that doesn't mean the Universe has to be. Besides, a Perfect Universe wouldn't make a very good Testing Grounds for His creations....programming the physical laws I would have had gravity be more forgiving to the clumsy beast I had designed who inevitably would trip on a crack in the sidewalk and break an arm, or have to decide whether to burn or jump off a multi-story building. Oh yeah, I can think of a lot of upgrades. How about Earth having a natural defense against stray asteroids.....The list is endless...
So what if (a) Man was made in His image, but (b) the human race is not yet done slow-cooking, on its way attaining that status?...And "along the road to something better"? I think they would say you can't get much better than being "made in His image". Even He looked upon all He had done and saw that it was good, finito. He admired his own work so much he gave himself a day off.
And your post is an opinon about theories and hypothesis which totally misses the point he was trying to relay - Evolution Does Occur - perhaps nop\t DarwinianTextbook evolution , but species do evolve adapt and mutate.
Significant differences in once isolated Human Populations that developed over time are a prime example of that.
No, it is not my opinion. We are discussing science and in science a theory summarizes an hypothesis or group of hypotheses after repeated testing. I was responding to his comment that God was a theory unsupported by scientific evidence. In science, you cannot have a theory unsupported by evidence.
You stated Evolution occurs -Believe it does ,apparently so do you - but our beliefs combined do make it a fact -it's still just a theory.
God's existenec is a theory -I believe a supreme intelligence exists - so do many others ,my definition of what it is is somewhat different than most - but it's a belief and a theory - in the Human Scientific Realm it will probably never be a fact
Romans 1:20
For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Genesis 1:24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
Genesis 1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
Genesis 7:14 They, and every beast after his kind, and all the cattle after their kind, and every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind, and every fowl after his kind, every bird of every sort.
And your post is an opinon about theories and hypothesis which totally misses the point he was trying to relay - Evolution Does Occur - perhaps nop\t DarwinianTextbook evolution , but species do evolve adapt and mutate.
Significant differences in once isolated Human Populations that developed over time are a prime example of that.
No, it is not my opinion. We are discussing science and in science a theory summarizes an hypothesis or group of hypotheses after repeated testing. I was responding to his comment that God was a theory unsupported by scientific evidence. In science, you cannot have a theory unsupported by evidence.
You stated Evolution occurs -Believe it does ,apparently so do you - but our beliefs combined do make it a fact -it's still just a theory.
God's existenec is a theory -I believe a supreme intelligence exists - so do many others ,my definition of what it is is somewhat different than most - but it's a belief and a theory - in the Human Scientific Realm it will probably never be a fact
wouldn't I have a memory whether it were true or not?sorry, I didn't realize you were a young earther...../sniggers behind his hand....
Hey, nothing is impossible. The earth may be 15 minutes old and we were created with memories that go back years.
if that were true, wouldn't you have a memory?......
lol....good luck finding a testable prediction about macro evolution......which, conversely, demonstrates why it isn't science......
Sorry but there are numerous testable predictions.
good.....then you should have no trouble providing me a link to a successful test.....I look forward to it.....
No, it is not my opinion. We are discussing science and in science a theory summarizes an hypothesis or group of hypotheses after repeated testing. I was responding to his comment that God was a theory unsupported by scientific evidence. In science, you cannot have a theory unsupported by evidence.
You stated Evolution occurs -Believe it does ,apparently so do you - but our beliefs combined do make it a fact -it's still just a theory.
God's existenec is a theory -I believe a supreme intelligence exists - so do many others ,my definition of what it is is somewhat different than most - but it's a belief and a theory - in the Human Scientific Realm it will probably never be a fact
The Bible represents God as a fact, not a theory. That would make the Bible incorrect on that most important issue then, wouldn't it?
A worthwhile sentiment.How about you can believe in God and not follow a religion. God is the grand architect of everything, evolution, science, etc. can fit in Gods plan. I have nothing against anyone that follows a religion, if it helps you lead a good life that is good. Just please don't follow false prophets with petty tricks like Benny Hinn, etc. Idiocy and blind faith doesn't = God or Jesus.
In order to reject the theory of evolution you have to reject the idea that life began in the most simple of forms, and then over a very very very very long time increased, incrementally, in complexity and diversity.
But once you reject that, what is your plausible alternative? That species past and present simply appeared, fully formed, out of nowhere?
sorry, but that isn't a test, that's the subject that requires testing.....show me a scientific test.....demonstrate that said fossil can only exist because its a transition between two other creatures.....what if, heaven forbid, its actually a transition between two other completely unknown fossils who's line crossed your anticipated transition at right angles.....Sorry but there are numerous testable predictions.
good.....then you should have no trouble providing me a link to a successful test.....I look forward to it.....
Maybe I was unclear but EVERY fossil that is discovered is a test of the theory. It either fits into the theory or it proves that it is either somewhat or completely wrong.
No, it is not my opinion. We are discussing science and in science a theory summarizes an hypothesis or group of hypotheses after repeated testing. I was responding to his comment that God was a theory unsupported by scientific evidence. In science, you cannot have a theory unsupported by evidence.
You stated Evolution occurs -Believe it does ,apparently so do you - but our beliefs combined do make it a fact -it's still just a theory.
God's existenec is a theory -I believe a supreme intelligence exists - so do many others ,my definition of what it is is somewhat different than most - but it's a belief and a theory - in the Human Scientific Realm it will probably never be a fact
What I stated was the definition of a scientific theory. A belief without evidence does not meet that definition. It is, at best, an hypothesis.
Evolution is a fact. The proof of that fact is currently lying next to my chair. If evolution did not occur there would be no such thing as a black lab. I am not going to deny the obvious just because it might conflict with my beliefs. You can do as you please.
I'm sorry you don't like science and the scientific method but, fortunately it is not your call.sorry, but that isn't a test, that's the subject that requires testing.....show me a scientific test.....demonstrate that said fossil can only exist because its a transition between two other creatures.....what if, heaven forbid, its actually a transition between two other completely unknown fossils who's line crossed your anticipated transition at right angles.....good.....then you should have no trouble providing me a link to a successful test.....I look forward to it.....
Maybe I was unclear but EVERY fossil that is discovered is a test of the theory. It either fits into the theory or it proves that it is either somewhat or completely wrong.
Hey, the Deity may be perfect, but that doesn't mean the Universe has to be. Besides, a Perfect Universe wouldn't make a very good Testing Grounds for His creations....programming the physical laws I would have had gravity be more forgiving to the clumsy beast I had designed who inevitably would trip on a crack in the sidewalk and break an arm, or have to decide whether to burn or jump off a multi-story building. Oh yeah, I can think of a lot of upgrades. How about Earth having a natural defense against stray asteroids.....The list is endless...
So what if (a) Man was made in His image, but (b) the human race is not yet done slow-cooking, on its way attaining that status?...And "along the road to something better"? I think they would say you can't get much better than being "made in His image". Even He looked upon all He had done and saw that it was good, finito. He admired his own work so much he gave himself a day off.
Anything is possible, although Man, collectively, has probably done a halfway decent job of articulating the Godhead to the meager extent that lies within his power, and most who 'believe' are likely to trust to that articulation as most believable and comforting and in keeping with their inner sense of spirituality and self, rather than dwelling overly-long upon the long-shots....in the Univeses we imagine as possible I think. Your diety could just as well be a hyper-advanced e.t. doing a reseach ptoject for his 'high school' science fair. That's a scenario I've posted before.
I'm sorry you don't like science and the scientific method but, fortunately it is not your call.sorry, but that isn't a test, that's the subject that requires testing.....show me a scientific test.....demonstrate that said fossil can only exist because its a transition between two other creatures.....what if, heaven forbid, its actually a transition between two other completely unknown fossils who's line crossed your anticipated transition at right angles.....Maybe I was unclear but EVERY fossil that is discovered is a test of the theory. It either fits into the theory or it proves that it is either somewhat or completely wrong.
If you want something other than what I provided feel free to give me an example of a "scientific" test of creationism.
