Ex-Soviet intelligence officer attended meeting with Kushner and Trump Jr

[OldLady]

I like this link better. Just me.
Ex-Soviet Intelligence Officer, Now Lobbyist, Reportedly At Trump Jr. Meeting With Russian Lawyer

It's not unusual to "turn" a spy and they defect. This one is still lobbying to overturn the sanctions, though, it sounds like?

 

[basquebromance]

Donald Trump’s family has done more for this country than any Democrat elected official.

 

[bripat9643]

"Akhmetshin has been described as an “English-speaking former Soviet Army counterintelligence officer,” although he repeatedly has denied current ties to Russian intelligence."

Read your own links.

Why does Jr. keep lying and lying and lying again about this meeting?

1. No meeting
2. Yes meeting, only about about kids
3. Yes meeting but about Clinton dirt
4. Yes meeting about Clinton dirt from Russian government with two people
5. Yes meeting about Clinton dirt from Russian government with 4 people, one of whom was introduced as Russian government attoney, one was Russian ex-intelligence officer and the other is a translator we don't have a name of...yes translator, in a room of fluent english speakers.

You seriously don't get that fishy smell? Come on, even Trumpsters don't have nose plugs that thick.

The fact that the fake news "destroy Trump at any cost" media keeps coming up with new "smoking guns" that no one ever asked Trump about doesn't mean he lied, you brain damaged piece of shit. Not mentioning every single fucking detail of everything he did from the beginning of time doesn't make him a liar.

There is no lower limit to the stupidity of the left.

 

[bripat9643]

I like this link better. Just me.
Ex-Soviet Intelligence Officer, Now Lobbyist, Reportedly At Trump Jr. Meeting With Russian Lawyer

It's not unusual to "turn" a spy and they defect. This one is still lobbying to overturn the sanctions, though, it sounds like?

It's also not unusual for leftwingers, and especially the fake news, to lie.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

"Akhmetshin has been described as an “English-speaking former Soviet Army counterintelligence officer,” although he repeatedly has denied current ties to Russian intelligence."

Read your own links.

Why does Jr. keep lying and lying and lying again about this meeting?

You seriously don't get that fishy smell? Come on.

Where's the lie, asshole? Did someone ask him "did you know the Russian spy who the Russian lawyer brought with her?"

You don't believe that in a meeting that purports to have sensitive information directly from the Russian govt that there would be representatives who are closely tied to said govt? Perhaps even intelligence folks who are managing such an operation?

 

[AntonToo]

"Akhmetshin has been described as an “English-speaking former Soviet Army counterintelligence officer,” although he repeatedly has denied current ties to Russian intelligence."

Read your own links.

Why does Jr. keep lying and lying and lying again about this meeting?

You seriously don't get that fishy smell? Come on.

Why do you keep changing the subject? Post the lies, your opinion won't do.

No prob:

Don Jr. - March 2017
Did I meet with people that were Russian? I’m sure, I’m sure I did. ... But none that were set up. None that I can think of at the moment. And certainly none that I was representing the campaign in any way, shape or form.


Last sunday:

It was a short introductory meeting. I asked Jared and Paul to stop by. We primarily discussed a program about the adoption of Russian children that was active and popular with American families years ago and was since ended by the Russian government, but it was not a campaign issue at the time and there was no follow up. ... I was asked to attend the meeting by an acquaintance, but was not told the name of the person I would be meeting with beforehand.


But, yes Don met with Russians and he did so as a representative of the compaign seeking dirt on Clinton. No he did not meet with one person, he met there 3 people, including Russian ex-intelligence officer, he somehow managed to fail to mention in his supposed come-clean statements and interviews.


Why did he not clearly explain the meeting, how it was arranged and who was present? Why do his statements keep turning out false and misleading? Why did no one present originally include this meeting in their security clearance forms?

 

[bripat9643]

"Akhmetshin has been described as an “English-speaking former Soviet Army counterintelligence officer,” although he repeatedly has denied current ties to Russian intelligence."

Read your own links.

Why does Jr. keep lying and lying and lying again about this meeting?

You seriously don't get that fishy smell? Come on.

Where's the lie, asshole? Did someone ask him "did you know the Russian spy who the Russian lawyer brought with her?"

You don't believe that in a meeting that purports to have sensitive information directly from the Russian govt that there would be representatives who are closely tied to said govt? Perhaps even intelligence folks who are managing such an operation?

You can make all the assumptions you want about such a meeting. I just stick to the known facts. Trump wasn't told this guy was going to attend, and we don't in fact know that has any connection to the Russian government. We have no evidence of such. All you have is a bunch or brain damaged snowflake fantasies about what occurred.

 

[OldLady]

Is that the best excuse your handlers can come up with, honey pot? it aint very good.

ROFL! So you think Trump was supposed to know who a total stranger worked for without anyone informing him?

You are a special kind of stupid.

ROFL! So you think Trump was supposed to know who a total stranger worked for without anyone informing him?

You are a special kind of stupid.

He loved it!

View attachment 138739

"It" refers to the potential information, and that's all, dumbass.

It's interesting how you snowflake douche bags misconstrue every single word in Trump's email. I wouldn't have imagined that a human being could be that stupid, but no matter how low my opinion of leftwingers, they always manage to go lower.

" is part of Russia and it's government's support for Mr. Trump"

He knew what this meeting was and loved the very idea of it.

Junior released these himself. You're providing a defense that junior himself isn't even asserting.

a guy like manafort doesn't attend a meeting like this unless he knows exactly what it is about and exactly who will be attending.

One of the first articles I read--from the NYT I think--said that Jr. forwarded the email chain to both Kushner and Manafort, obviously so they'd know about scheduling and what the meeting was about. So they knew exactly.

 

[bripat9643]

"Akhmetshin has been described as an “English-speaking former Soviet Army counterintelligence officer,” although he repeatedly has denied current ties to Russian intelligence."

Read your own links.

Why does Jr. keep lying and lying and lying again about this meeting?

You seriously don't get that fishy smell? Come on.

Why do you keep changing the subject? Post the lies, your opinion won't do.

No prob:

Don Jr. - March 2017
Did I meet with people that were Russian? I’m sure, I’m sure I did. ... But none that were set up. None that I can think of at the moment. And certainly none that I was representing the campaign in any way, shape or form.


Last sunday:

It was a short introductory meeting. I asked Jared and Paul to stop by. We primarily discussed a program about the adoption of Russian children that was active and popular with American families years ago and was since ended by the Russian government, but it was not a campaign issue at the time and there was no follow up. ... I was asked to attend the meeting by an acquaintance, but was not told the name of the person I would be meeting with beforehand.


But, yes Don met with Russians and he did so as a representative of the compaign seeking dirt on Clinton. No he did not meet with one person, he met there 3 people, including Russian ex-intelligence officer, he somehow managed to mention in his supposed come-clean statements and interviews.


Why did he not clearly explain the meeting, how it was arranged and who was present? Why do his statements keep turning out false and misleading?

Not explaining it does not equate to a lie, you fucking moron.

 

[bripat9643]

ROFL! So you think Trump was supposed to know who a total stranger worked for without anyone informing him?

You are a special kind of stupid.

ROFL! So you think Trump was supposed to know who a total stranger worked for without anyone informing him?

You are a special kind of stupid.

He loved it!

View attachment 138739

"It" refers to the potential information, and that's all, dumbass.

It's interesting how you snowflake douche bags misconstrue every single word in Trump's email. I wouldn't have imagined that a human being could be that stupid, but no matter how low my opinion of leftwingers, they always manage to go lower.

" is part of Russia and it's government's support for Mr. Trump"

He knew what this meeting was and loved the very idea of it.

Junior released these himself. You're providing a defense that junior himself isn't even asserting.

a guy like manafort doesn't attend a meeting like this unless he knows exactly what it is about and exactly who will be attending.

One of the first articles I read--from the NYT I think--said that Jr. forwarded the email chain to both Kushner and Manafort, obviously so they'd know about scheduling and what the meeting was about. So they knew exactly.

What is it you imagine they "knew?"

 

[AntonToo]

"Akhmetshin has been described as an “English-speaking former Soviet Army counterintelligence officer,” although he repeatedly has denied current ties to Russian intelligence."

Read your own links.

Why does Jr. keep lying and lying and lying again about this meeting?

You seriously don't get that fishy smell? Come on.

Why do you keep changing the subject? Post the lies, your opinion won't do.

No prob:

Don Jr. - March 2017
Did I meet with people that were Russian? I’m sure, I’m sure I did. ... But none that were set up. None that I can think of at the moment. And certainly none that I was representing the campaign in any way, shape or form.


Last sunday:

It was a short introductory meeting. I asked Jared and Paul to stop by. We primarily discussed a program about the adoption of Russian children that was active and popular with American families years ago and was since ended by the Russian government, but it was not a campaign issue at the time and there was no follow up. ... I was asked to attend the meeting by an acquaintance, but was not told the name of the person I would be meeting with beforehand.


But, yes Don met with Russians and he did so as a representative of the compaign seeking dirt on Clinton. No he did not meet with one person, he met there 3 people, including Russian ex-intelligence officer, he somehow managed to mention in his supposed come-clean statements and interviews.


Why did he not clearly explain the meeting, how it was arranged and who was present? Why do his statements keep turning out false and misleading?

Not explaining it does not equate to a lie, you fucking moron.

Bullshit.

Jr. is lying, lying, lying. If you are too stupid to see that doesn't mean everyone else is.

 

[whitehall]

Every lawyer in freaking Russia was probably a Soviet intelligence officer at one time or another. How many actual Soviet intelligence officers did Bill Clinton meet on his tour of Russia when he caught their eye while protesting against his own Country as a student in the U.K.?

 

[Iceweasel]

"Akhmetshin has been described as an “English-speaking former Soviet Army counterintelligence officer,” although he repeatedly has denied current ties to Russian intelligence."

Read your own links.

Why does Jr. keep lying and lying and lying again about this meeting?

You seriously don't get that fishy smell? Come on.

Why do you keep changing the subject? Post the lies, your opinion won't do.

No prob:

Don Jr. - March 2017
Did I meet with people that were Russian? I’m sure, I’m sure I did. ... But none that were set up. None that I can think of at the moment. And certainly none that I was representing the campaign in any way, shape or form.


Last sunday:

It was a short introductory meeting. I asked Jared and Paul to stop by. We primarily discussed a program about the adoption of Russian children that was active and popular with American families years ago and was since ended by the Russian government, but it was not a campaign issue at the time and there was no follow up. ... I was asked to attend the meeting by an acquaintance, but was not told the name of the person I would be meeting with beforehand.


But, yes Don met with Russians and he did so as a representative of the compaign seeking dirt on Clinton. No he did not meet with one person, he met there 3 people, including Russian ex-intelligence officer, he somehow managed to mention in his supposed come-clean statements and interviews.


Why did he not clearly explain the meeting, how it was arranged and who was present? Why do his statements keep turning out false and misleading?

Not explaining it does not equate to a lie, you fucking moron.

Bullshit.

Jr. is lying, lying, lying. If you are too stupid to see that doesn't mean everyone else is.

What a childish tactic. Post the goddamn lies instead of spouting off like a three year old.

 

[bripat9643]

"Akhmetshin has been described as an “English-speaking former Soviet Army counterintelligence officer,” although he repeatedly has denied current ties to Russian intelligence."

Read your own links.

Why does Jr. keep lying and lying and lying again about this meeting?

You seriously don't get that fishy smell? Come on.

Why do you keep changing the subject? Post the lies, your opinion won't do.

No prob:

Don Jr. - March 2017
Did I meet with people that were Russian? I’m sure, I’m sure I did. ... But none that were set up. None that I can think of at the moment. And certainly none that I was representing the campaign in any way, shape or form.


Last sunday:

It was a short introductory meeting. I asked Jared and Paul to stop by. We primarily discussed a program about the adoption of Russian children that was active and popular with American families years ago and was since ended by the Russian government, but it was not a campaign issue at the time and there was no follow up. ... I was asked to attend the meeting by an acquaintance, but was not told the name of the person I would be meeting with beforehand.


But, yes Don met with Russians and he did so as a representative of the compaign seeking dirt on Clinton. No he did not meet with one person, he met there 3 people, including Russian ex-intelligence officer, he somehow managed to mention in his supposed come-clean statements and interviews.


Why did he not clearly explain the meeting, how it was arranged and who was present? Why do his statements keep turning out false and misleading?

Not explaining it does not equate to a lie, you fucking moron.

Bullshit.

Jr. is lying, lying, lying. If you are too stupid to see that doesn't mean everyone else is.

You really think that's bullshit? it's basic logic, you fucking moron.

If you ask me "was 'A' at this meeting, and I say "yes 'A' was at the meeting, have I lied because 'B' and 'C' were also at the meeting? that's what you're saying. You have demonstrated your inability to commit logic. Go out and play with the other children now.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

"Akhmetshin has been described as an “English-speaking former Soviet Army counterintelligence officer,” although he repeatedly has denied current ties to Russian intelligence."

Read your own links.

Why does Jr. keep lying and lying and lying again about this meeting?

You seriously don't get that fishy smell? Come on.

Where's the lie, asshole? Did someone ask him "did you know the Russian spy who the Russian lawyer brought with her?"

You don't believe that in a meeting that purports to have sensitive information directly from the Russian govt that there would be representatives who are closely tied to said govt? Perhaps even intelligence folks who are managing such an operation?

You make all the assumptions you want about such a meeting. I just stick to the known facts. Trump wasn't told this guy was going to attend, and we don't in fact know that has any connection to the Russian government. We have no evidence of such. All you have is a bunch or brain damaged snowflake fantasies about what occurred.

The facts?
The entire premise of the meeting was to transfer information that came directly from the Russian govt in support of Trump.


The only defense against this is that junior was just far too dumb to understand what was happening.
That may be true but in no way absolves him or the Trump campaign.

 

[AntonToo]

Why does Jr. keep lying and lying and lying again about this meeting?

You seriously don't get that fishy smell? Come on.

Why do you keep changing the subject? Post the lies, your opinion won't do.

No prob:

Don Jr. - March 2017
Did I meet with people that were Russian? I’m sure, I’m sure I did. ... But none that were set up. None that I can think of at the moment. And certainly none that I was representing the campaign in any way, shape or form.


Last sunday:

It was a short introductory meeting. I asked Jared and Paul to stop by. We primarily discussed a program about the adoption of Russian children that was active and popular with American families years ago and was since ended by the Russian government, but it was not a campaign issue at the time and there was no follow up. ... I was asked to attend the meeting by an acquaintance, but was not told the name of the person I would be meeting with beforehand.


But, yes Don met with Russians and he did so as a representative of the compaign seeking dirt on Clinton. No he did not meet with one person, he met there 3 people, including Russian ex-intelligence officer, he somehow managed to mention in his supposed come-clean statements and interviews.


Why did he not clearly explain the meeting, how it was arranged and who was present? Why do his statements keep turning out false and misleading?

Not explaining it does not equate to a lie, you fucking moron.

Bullshit.

Jr. is lying, lying, lying. If you are too stupid to see that doesn't mean everyone else is.

What a childish tactic. Post the goddamn lies instead of spouting off like a three year old.

WTF is your malfunction? I just did that!

 

[bripat9643]

Every lawyer in freaking Russia was probably a Soviet intelligence officer at one time or another. How many actual Soviet intelligence officers did Bill Clinton meet on his tour of Russia when he caught their eye while protesting against his own Country as a student in the U.K.?

During a Soviet era every tourist to Moscow was given a "minder" who escorted them everywhere they went and reported what they did and said to the Kremlin. There were probably millions of them. I'm sure the fake news media would call all these people "Russian spies" if they ever spoke with anyone in the Trump campaign.

 

[AntonToo]

"Akhmetshin has been described as an “English-speaking former Soviet Army counterintelligence officer,” although he repeatedly has denied current ties to Russian intelligence."

Read your own links.

Why does Jr. keep lying and lying and lying again about this meeting?

You seriously don't get that fishy smell? Come on.

Where's the lie, asshole? Did someone ask him "did you know the Russian spy who the Russian lawyer brought with her?"

You don't believe that in a meeting that purports to have sensitive information directly from the Russian govt that there would be representatives who are closely tied to said govt? Perhaps even intelligence folks who are managing such an operation?

You make all the assumptions you want about such a meeting. I just stick to the known facts. Trump wasn't told this guy was going to attend, and we don't in fact know that has any connection to the Russian government. We have no evidence of such. All you have is a bunch or brain damaged snowflake fantasies about what occurred.

The facts?
The entire premise of the meeting was to transfer information that came directly from the Russian govt in support of Trump.


The only defense against this is that junior was just far too dumb to understand what was happening.
That may be true but in no way absolves him or the Trump campaign.

It wasn't just Jr. - it was Jr., Kushner and Manafort

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Why does Jr. keep lying and lying and lying again about this meeting?

You seriously don't get that fishy smell? Come on.

Why do you keep changing the subject? Post the lies, your opinion won't do.

No prob:

Don Jr. - March 2017
Did I meet with people that were Russian? I’m sure, I’m sure I did. ... But none that were set up. None that I can think of at the moment. And certainly none that I was representing the campaign in any way, shape or form.


Last sunday:

It was a short introductory meeting. I asked Jared and Paul to stop by. We primarily discussed a program about the adoption of Russian children that was active and popular with American families years ago and was since ended by the Russian government, but it was not a campaign issue at the time and there was no follow up. ... I was asked to attend the meeting by an acquaintance, but was not told the name of the person I would be meeting with beforehand.


But, yes Don met with Russians and he did so as a representative of the compaign seeking dirt on Clinton. No he did not meet with one person, he met there 3 people, including Russian ex-intelligence officer, he somehow managed to mention in his supposed come-clean statements and interviews.


Why did he not clearly explain the meeting, how it was arranged and who was present? Why do his statements keep turning out false and misleading?

Not explaining it does not equate to a lie, you fucking moron.

Bullshit.

Jr. is lying, lying, lying. If you are too stupid to see that doesn't mean everyone else is.

What a childish tactic. Post the goddamn lies instead of spouting off like a three year old.

It's right above your post, dope.

 

[AntonToo]

During a Soviet era every tourist to Moscow was given a "minder"

Nonsense. Maybe some high profilers were given minder but certainly not regular tourists.

Either way, Jr. has failed to come clean about who was at the meeting and his statements have indicated that only 2 Russians were present. If it's not big deal, then why is it such a big deal to tell the truth about it?