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Project for NFL stadium in Los Angeles going forward - ESPN Los Angeles

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Stan Kroenke s Los Angeles Stadium Plan Could Reshape the NFL Forever Bleacher Report

Sen. Isadore Hall offers legislative help for Inglewood stadium proposal - LA Times

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Kroenke may not have the votes to move and he may not need them ProFootballTalk

How will LA fans react to a losing team ESPNLA Host Marcellus Wiley tells The Fast Lane. - 101Sports.com

Strauss Kroenke s plans open old wounds Sports

Nixon No 8216 Shake Down 8217 to Keep Rams in Town CBS St. Louis

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Hoped-for Oakland stadium in mix for Bay Area Olympic bid - SFGate

Farmers Field could go way of other L.A. stadium plans
 
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Latest Thoughts on Stan Kroenke the Rams and the NFL in St. Louis insideSTL.com - St. Louis Sports Music Entertainment and Nightlife STL Rams

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New St. Louis NFL stadium plans revealed in Friday briefing FOX2now.com

NFL in LA Rams To Be Moving Back to LA after SuperBowl SouthLA

Get Ready St. Louis NFL Stadium Plans to be Unveiled Today CBS St. Louis



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Latest Thoughts on Stan Kroenke the Rams and the NFL in St. Louis insideSTL.com - St. Louis Sports Music Entertainment and Nightlife STL Rams

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John Darkow on Stan Kroenke and the Rams Football Team - Columbia Daily Tribune Columbia Missouri Darkow Cartoons

Stadium proposals in Los Angeles St. Louis don t guarantee Rams - ESPN

Support timing key to Rams plan Sports

Hollywood Land Company Announces Plan to Build World-Class Sports Complex In Inglewood

In St. Louis Rams fans seem resigned to losing football team - LA Times

Feldman If the NFL turns its back on St. Louis now it s a complete fraud KMOV.com St. Louis

St. Louis Rams Fans React To Riverfront Stadium Proposal Watch the video - Yahoo News



State funding for NFL stadium faces resistance in legislature - Pulaski County Mirror Missouri News

 
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Californians Rejoice 2016 Will Be The Year The NFL Returns To LA

Support timing key to Rams plan Sports

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Video NBC Southern California

Chargers hint strongly at litigation to keep Rams out of L.A. ProFootballTalk

Are the Rams moving to Los Angeles We asked them The Beast 980

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/14/s...is-dismayed-by-jerry-joness-remarks.html?_r=1

Jones says Kroenke has the right to move Sports

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USC Coliseum likely choice to house NFL team Daily Trojan

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St. Louis should let the Rams move to Los Angeles - Vox

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San Diego mayor promises to keep Chargers from moving to Los Angeles - LA Times
 
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NFL exec St. Louis must build new stadium to keep NFL News

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Dick Vermeil on if Rams Move Would Affect STL Legacy - 101Sports.com

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NFL executive Eric Grubman talks St. Louis Rams relocation - ESPN

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St. Louis mayor Stadium plan will make it difficult for Kroenke s Rams to leave - Denver Business Journal



We don't want to have a team that gets itself in a situation where it has to file an application and go through a process where at the end of the day it could wind up being a lame duck, or even worse, having to go back to a city it attempted to move from." - Pittsburgh

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Breaking down the potential St. Louis Rams stadium proposal - ESPN
The Peacock-Blitz plan expect Stan Kroenke and the Rams to contribute $200-250 themselves, and then seek a $200 million loan from the NFL's G4 program. The G4 loan money is just that, A LOAN, that Kroenke would have to repay to the NFL. What a deal!

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Assessing The Merits Issues With Proposed Stadium Along St. Louis Riverfront - Forbes

Inglewood recalls Lakers apos years at Forum remains wary of Rams apos plan - LA Times

Hollywood Park developers ready to build football stadium without team - LA Times

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Inglewood stadium plan garners 20 000 signatures - LA Times

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The simple fact is the NFL is run by 32 billionaires. One billionaire wields enormous power. Now, how much power do 32 billionaires wield? Think about it.

The reason there has not been an NFL team in Los Angeles over the last 20 years is about creating leverage to force as many cities as they could to finance new stadiums with tax subsidized dollars.

Trust this, the owners are as about making money as they are about their teams winning. In fact I would say most owners are MORE about the business aspect of it than they are about the "integrity" of the game. The use the word "safety" the way government does. As a justifiable reason to fine ignorant uneducated millionaires for whatever reason that can be classified as concerns of "safety."

When Art Modell of the Browns received the offer from Baltimore that they would fund a new stadium through public funding, and offered to pay him 50 million just to agree to move there, Modell had no real choice, did he?

What did all of the other owners want to know after that? Where the fuck is my deal? That, is what they were asking. So, soon after the Browns left Cleveland, it was during this same period that the NFL moved teams out of LA. In order to create leverage to bully cities one by one to have public funing for new stadiums be built.

Denver owner was one of the first. He went so far as to remove the D from their old helmets. Most of the teams new stadiums were built from tax dollars, and virtually all of them threatened to move to LA. Look up Minnesota. They were the last team, and Goodell went to Minnesota to show the city that they were indeed moving to LA.

There are a lot more things the owners do that would surprise many.
 
Theowl32 said:
The simple fact is the NFL is run by 32 billionaires. One billionaire wields enormous power. Now, how much power do 32 billionaires wield? Think about it.

The reason there has not been an NFL team in Los Angeles over the last 20 years is about creating leverage to force as many cities as they could to finance new stadiums with tax subsidized dollars.

Trust this, the owners are as about making money as they are about their teams winning. In fact I would say most owners are MORE about the business aspect of it than they are about the "integrity" of the game. The use the word "safety" the way government does. As a justifiable reason to fine ignorant uneducated millionaires for whatever reason that can be classified as concerns of "safety."

When Art Modell of the Browns received the offer from Baltimore that they would fund a new stadium through public funding, and offered to pay him 50 million just to agree to move there, Modell had no real choice, did he?

What did all of the other owners want to know after that? Where the fuck is my deal? That, is what they were asking. So, soon after the Browns left Cleveland, it was during this same period that the NFL moved teams out of LA. In order to create leverage to bully cities one by one to have public funing for new stadiums be built.

Denver owner was one of the first. He went so far as to remove the D from their old helmets. Most of the teams new stadiums were built from tax dollars, and virtually all of them threatened to move to LA. Look up Minnesota. They were the last team, and Goodell went to Minnesota to show the city that they were indeed moving to LA.

There are a lot more things the owners do that would surprise many.
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Modell at least left the team name in Cleveland so he might have saved himself from burning in hell unlike the bitch who had her husband murdered off so she could inherit the team and move it to st Louis her hometown.did you know about that one?

also.amazingly,it doesn't sound like you are aware of the announcement that kronke made in early January of aquiring an additional 300acres of land in addition to the 60 acres he bought last year and making the announcement that he plans to build an NFL stadium there near the forum?

after that announcement came out,not only has the st louis media come out and now say that THEY don't think the rams will be in st Louis past this year which is really funny cause they been calling people like me nutcases the past year for suggesting they would come back to LA:asshole:

but everybody that came on here trolling my thread in the beginning last september saying that kronke was just using that land purchase for leverage for a new stadium,they all have done EXACTLY what I predicted they would do back then.they have NOW done an about face and back peddled claiming they never said the rams would never come back to LA.which is funny cause I asked them back then will they be too arrogant to admit they are wrong when the rams come back and they never answered the question,so NOW they are doing what I said they WOULD do back then,ever since that announcement came out early in January,they have all either lied and said they never said that,or they have left and not returned to admit how stupid they were.:asshole:

I have to laugh at all the fools who said they would not be moving back and have lied as I said they would back then because they seem to be stupid in the fact that this place keeps records of things you said in the past.:asshole: so what do they do? they come on and accuse ME of being the liar just like the trolls they are.:asshole:

oh and the situation with the Vikings and the rams using LA for leverage for a new stadium is completely different like night and day.when the Vikings were talking about moving to LA,you had city and county officials going all over the place lobbying corporations and having constant talks with the Vikings for a new stadium in the prior years before that.NONE of that has gone on in st Louis.plus st Louis is bankrupt,they talk about a new stadium,but they are in millions in debt already for the stadium they play in now so even if they are serious about getting a new stadium which from the plans they have presented,they don't look serious at all,they have no way to fund the stadium.:asshole:

and see that's the REASON why kronke is moving to LA either this year or for sure next year,is because of money.playing in the 2nd biggest media market in the country,the value of his team alone triples which makes him three times richer. remember the sale of the clippers,how the value of it was increased because it was in LA?
 
this is what I was talking about.after this announcement came out.

Rams owner Stan Kroenke reveals plans to build NFL stadium in LA area - CBSSports.com

Like I said,not only did everybody who came on my thread and trolled it back in September saying that the rams would never move back to LA,not only have they all done what I said they would do,come on and make up lies saying they never said that or not come back and admit I proved them wrong too arrogant to do so like I knew they would.

why are there so many arrogant liars in the world who just cant admit it when they have been proven wrong?

not only that.but the st Louis media themselves, even they are saying they think the rams are good as gone which is funny cause again,they been calling people like me who have been saying for the past year they are moving back,nutcases,not anymore though.hee hee.

see this was an artist drawing in the st Louis post.:lol::lol::lmao:

Timeline Photos - Bring Back the Los Angeles Rams Facebook
 
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Theowl32 said:
The simple fact is the NFL is run by 32 billionaires. One billionaire wields enormous power. Now, how much power do 32 billionaires wield? Think about it.

The reason there has not been an NFL team in Los Angeles over the last 20 years is about creating leverage to force as many cities as they could to finance new stadiums with tax subsidized dollars.

Trust this, the owners are as about making money as they are about their teams winning. In fact I would say most owners are MORE about the business aspect of it than they are about the "integrity" of the game. The use the word "safety" the way government does. As a justifiable reason to fine ignorant uneducated millionaires for whatever reason that can be classified as concerns of "safety."

When Art Modell of the Browns received the offer from Baltimore that they would fund a new stadium through public funding, and offered to pay him 50 million just to agree to move there, Modell had no real choice, did he?

What did all of the other owners want to know after that? Where the fuck is my deal? That, is what they were asking. So, soon after the Browns left Cleveland, it was during this same period that the NFL moved teams out of LA. In order to create leverage to bully cities one by one to have public funing for new stadiums be built.

Denver owner was one of the first. He went so far as to remove the D from their old helmets. Most of the teams new stadiums were built from tax dollars, and virtually all of them threatened to move to LA. Look up Minnesota. They were the last team, and Goodell went to Minnesota to show the city that they were indeed moving to LA.

There are a lot more things the owners do that would surprise many.
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Modell at least left the team name in Cleveland so he might have saved himself from burning in hell unlike the bitch who had her husband murdered off so she could inherit the team and move it to st Louis her hometown.did you know about that one?

also.amazingly,it doesn't sound like you are aware of the announcement that kronke made in early January of aquiring an additional 300acres of land in addition to the 60 acres he bought last year and making the announcement that he plans to build an NFL stadium there near the forum?

after that announcement came out,not only has the st louis media come out and now say that THEY don't think the rams will be in st Louis past this year which is really funny cause they been calling people like me nutcases the past year for suggesting they would come back to LA:asshole:

but everybody that came on here trolling my thread in the beginning last september saying that kronke was just using that land purchase for leverage for a new stadium,they all have done EXACTLY what I predicted they would do back then.they have NOW done an about face and back peddled claiming they never said the rams would never come back to LA.which is funny cause I asked them back then will they be too arrogant to admit they are wrong when the rams come back and they never answered the question,so NOW they are doing what I said they WOULD do back then,ever since that announcement came out early in January,they have all either lied and said they never said that,or they have left and not returned to admit how stupid they were.:asshole:

I have to laugh at all the fools who said they would not be moving back and have lied as I said they would back then because they seem to be stupid in the fact that this place keeps records of things you said in the past.:asshole: so what do they do? they come on and accuse ME of being the liar just like the trolls they are.:asshole:

oh and the situation with the Vikings and the rams using LA for leverage for a new stadium is completely different like night and day.when the Vikings were talking about moving to LA,you had city and county officials going all over the place lobbying corporations and having constant talks with the Vikings for a new stadium in the prior years before that.NONE of that has gone on in st Louis.plus st Louis is bankrupt,they talk about a new stadium,but they are in millions in debt already for the stadium they play in now so even if they are serious about getting a new stadium which from the plans they have presented,they don't look serious at all,they have no way to fund the stadium.:asshole:

and see that's the REASON why kronke is moving to LA either this year or for sure next year,is because of money.playing in the 2nd biggest media market in the country,the value of his team alone triples which makes him three times richer. remember the sale of the clippers,how the value of it was increased because it was in LA?
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I have been saying they were moving back to LA for about 15 years now. There will be another team, and like NY there will be two teams most likely that will share one stadium. One AFC team, and one NFC team. I predict the Chargers will be in LA with the Rams.

Anyway, there are all sorts of things the NFL does. Their blatant lies that the owners lost money due to overhead a few years ago with the lock out was just that ridiculous.

Robert Kraft bought the Pats in 1994 for 174 million dollars. In 2009, their valuation was estimated at 1.4 billion dollars. That is around a 976% increase in valuation. Those valuations are not just numbers thrown out there and made up. They are based on the a teams ability to generate cash.

The NFL has at least 4 billion dollar revenue streams it did not have in the 80s. NFL Network to name one, Madden Football which a billion dollar product (all video gaming rights is under this), fantasy football phenomenon is certainly a billion dollar industry. To say nothing of the fact that at least 70% of all merchandise sold is done over the internet which directly cuts out the middle man. That is vast overhead that is saved. Did I mention how many stadiums are financed publicly where the owners receive windfall profits through socialist means?

The scams are vast. Do not get me started on how Tebow was forced on the Jets so they could get his jersey sold in the biggest market in the world and how Michael Sam was drafted by the ONE TEAM that did not need him the most. The Rams were so deep at DE, and we know they did not need him. He was drafted and immediately his jersey was sold and wouldn't you know it was third in jerseys sold.

The list goes on and on. What do you think the owners discuss in their annual meeting where there are strict gag rules?
 
Theowl32 said:
9/11 inside job said:
Theowl32 said:
The simple fact is the NFL is run by 32 billionaires. One billionaire wields enormous power. Now, how much power do 32 billionaires wield? Think about it.

The reason there has not been an NFL team in Los Angeles over the last 20 years is about creating leverage to force as many cities as they could to finance new stadiums with tax subsidized dollars.

Trust this, the owners are as about making money as they are about their teams winning. In fact I would say most owners are MORE about the business aspect of it than they are about the "integrity" of the game. The use the word "safety" the way government does. As a justifiable reason to fine ignorant uneducated millionaires for whatever reason that can be classified as concerns of "safety."

When Art Modell of the Browns received the offer from Baltimore that they would fund a new stadium through public funding, and offered to pay him 50 million just to agree to move there, Modell had no real choice, did he?

What did all of the other owners want to know after that? Where the fuck is my deal? That, is what they were asking. So, soon after the Browns left Cleveland, it was during this same period that the NFL moved teams out of LA. In order to create leverage to bully cities one by one to have public funing for new stadiums be built.

Denver owner was one of the first. He went so far as to remove the D from their old helmets. Most of the teams new stadiums were built from tax dollars, and virtually all of them threatened to move to LA. Look up Minnesota. They were the last team, and Goodell went to Minnesota to show the city that they were indeed moving to LA.

There are a lot more things the owners do that would surprise many.
Click to expand...

Modell at least left the team name in Cleveland so he might have saved himself from burning in hell unlike the bitch who had her husband murdered off so she could inherit the team and move it to st Louis her hometown.did you know about that one?

also.amazingly,it doesn't sound like you are aware of the announcement that kronke made in early January of aquiring an additional 300acres of land in addition to the 60 acres he bought last year and making the announcement that he plans to build an NFL stadium there near the forum?

after that announcement came out,not only has the st louis media come out and now say that THEY don't think the rams will be in st Louis past this year which is really funny cause they been calling people like me nutcases the past year for suggesting they would come back to LA:asshole:

but everybody that came on here trolling my thread in the beginning last september saying that kronke was just using that land purchase for leverage for a new stadium,they all have done EXACTLY what I predicted they would do back then.they have NOW done an about face and back peddled claiming they never said the rams would never come back to LA.which is funny cause I asked them back then will they be too arrogant to admit they are wrong when the rams come back and they never answered the question,so NOW they are doing what I said they WOULD do back then,ever since that announcement came out early in January,they have all either lied and said they never said that,or they have left and not returned to admit how stupid they were.:asshole:

I have to laugh at all the fools who said they would not be moving back and have lied as I said they would back then because they seem to be stupid in the fact that this place keeps records of things you said in the past.:asshole: so what do they do? they come on and accuse ME of being the liar just like the trolls they are.:asshole:

oh and the situation with the Vikings and the rams using LA for leverage for a new stadium is completely different like night and day.when the Vikings were talking about moving to LA,you had city and county officials going all over the place lobbying corporations and having constant talks with the Vikings for a new stadium in the prior years before that.NONE of that has gone on in st Louis.plus st Louis is bankrupt,they talk about a new stadium,but they are in millions in debt already for the stadium they play in now so even if they are serious about getting a new stadium which from the plans they have presented,they don't look serious at all,they have no way to fund the stadium.:asshole:

and see that's the REASON why kronke is moving to LA either this year or for sure next year,is because of money.playing in the 2nd biggest media market in the country,the value of his team alone triples which makes him three times richer. remember the sale of the clippers,how the value of it was increased because it was in LA?
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I have been saying they were moving back to LA for about 15 years now. There will be another team, and like NY there will be two teams most likely that will share one stadium. One AFC team, and one NFC team. I predict the Chargers will be in LA with the Rams.

Anyway, there are all sorts of things the NFL does. Their blatant lies that the owners lost money due to overhead a few years ago with the lock out was just that ridiculous.

Robert Kraft bought the Pats in 1994 for 174 million dollars. In 2009, their valuation was estimated at 1.4 billion dollars. That is around a 976% increase in valuation. Those valuations are not just numbers thrown out there and made up. They are based on the a teams ability to generate cash.

The NFL has at least 4 billion dollar revenue streams it did not have in the 80s. NFL Network to name one, Madden Football which a billion dollar product (all video gaming rights is under this), fantasy football phenomenon is certainly a billion dollar industry. To say nothing of the fact that at least 70% of all merchandise sold is done over the internet which directly cuts out the middle man. That is vast overhead that is saved. Did I mention how many stadiums are financed publicly where the owners receive windfall profits through socialist means?

The scams are vast. Do not get me started on how Tebow was forced on the Jets so they could get his jersey sold in the biggest market in the world and how Michael Sam was drafted by the ONE TEAM that did not need him the most. The Rams were so deep at DE, and we know they did not need him. He was drafted and immediately his jersey was sold and wouldn't you know it was third in jerseys sold.

The list goes on and on. What do you think the owners discuss in their annual meeting where there are strict gag rules?
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that's why I enjoy having discussions with you,see I don't agree with everything you said on my other thread about carrol not throwing the game but I respect your opinions and thoughts on it.Im glad to see that you respect mine about it as well.that you don't get into childish name calling like so many others here do just cause I don't agree with you.

Its a refreshing change to discuss this with someone that is on top of all this that I don't have to explain all this to about there being a team in LA just to watch it all go ignored like so many here have.

Im impressed with your knowledge on this because I think you are the first one that has been on top of this that understands that LA is out of the picture for the raiders.

as I said,so many fools have come on this thread saying LA will never have a team again,they are just using it for leverage. the very few that DID come on here and say that LA would have a team,they all ignorant said the raiders would be the second team.if they had done any research,they would know that if there is a second team from the AFC,that it would be the chargers cause LA is out of the picture for the raiders.:cuckoo: for one,the owners are sore at the davis family cause of al suing them to move to LA so davis would never get the apporoval form the owners to move there,plus the city doesnt want them there,they voted against the move.cant move to city if the city doesn't want you there.:lmao:

oh and the raiders have a deal nearly signed for a new stadium,they have a billionaire investor and he has said he will only fund the stadium in Oakland.thank god.they only thing holding up the deal is the politics between the city and the country.

not only that,bu the NFL wants an owner with deep pockets like kronke,davis does not have deep pockets.plus the NFL offered levi stadium for davis to share and he did not want to do that.If he didn't want to share levi stadium with the niners,then WHY would he move to LA and share with kroneke?:rolleyes-41:

you see the kind of idiots I have to deal with around here?

so yeah,Im glad YOU understand that if it is going to be an AFC team,it will be the chargers,this might be the last year we get to hear them called san diego chargers unfortunately.

that would be a mistake for them to move away though because doesn't spanos even understand that the chargers played in LA their first season when they came into the league but moved to san diego cause they could not compete with the rams for attendance only averaging around 20,000 per game? why would it be any different for them this time,they have no fans in LA practically.:rolleyes-41: where the rams have along history there,they packed them on Monday night games in the 70's and 80's.

spanos would be really really stupid to move the chargers though.for one,they have no fan base in LA at all.The raiders at least have somewhat of a fanbase there.Limited but have one.the chargers though,have none at all and if they did move,that would alienate all the charger fans in san diego and they would have zero fan support,the fans in LA would not support them and they would lose their support from the san diego fans that they have.they wouldn't go see them feeling betrayed they left them.

if the NFL so badly wants two teams,they are going find out that will be a disaster for them,that just because it works in new York,doesnt mean it works in LA.LA is not like new York,sure they have the population to support two teams,but they will ONLY support one though and that's the rams because of their long history there.

so the NFL will fuck up if they don't come to their senses and give up this ludicrous idea of two teams.
 
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by the way ,stan kronke was seen at a Lakers game recently.Not only that,but the wife of the GM was seen in LA recently as well.that says a lot.lol

when the rams move back to LA,they'll just use another city for leverage like san antoni which they have been using along time,or maybe even London.hee hee.so they will STILL be able to play the leverage game.
 
I got a great laugh out of this guy here,he nailed it why the raiders wont be coming bak to LA.lol

For those Bring Back the Los Angeles Raiders people. Nice job on your rally. I went to it and saw maybe a quarter of the numbers the BRING BACK THE LOS ANGELES RAMS rally.

Good luck to you Raider fans. Oakland is the Raiders home. They came to L.A. for a cup of coffee. Truth be told, there are Raider fans in every NFL city except maybe Green Bay, Dallas, Cleveland, Buffalo, Pittsburgh and New York.

What that tells me is they could be the San Antonio Raiders and they'd be fi...ne.

The reality is you have an owner that doesn't Have the $$ or portfolio of a Stan Kroenke. For Mark Davis to move the Raiders to L.A., he'd have to sell a major percentage of the Raiders to a group like AEG because he just can't afford to do what Kroenke can.

If Davis were to try to sell a major portion of his team to AEG he'd be overruled by the other seven Raiders owners up north who own the 53% majority to Davis' 47% and have right of first refusal to purchase the team. Davis would need to sell 20%-40% of his 47% to move to L.A.
Neither is happening.......maybe after Stan builds his stadium and brings back the Rams where they belong.......to Los Angeles.

and that AEG deal he is talking about,is set to expire the end of this month.lol

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here is the other thing that makes no sense whatsoever why the NFL would want the chargers back,look at the results in this poll taken by the los angeles times,the chargers have a zero fan base there in LA. so they would fail miserably there in that market.

what I really loved about it is the rams were the overwhelming favorite, far outdistancing its closest competitor the raiders.:banana2:

Which NFL team would you like to see come to L.A. - LA Times

Like I said,the raiders have just a limited fanbase,so limited that when they were on Monday night,their home games were always on the road where the rams were always televised since they always sold out in the 70's and 80's,
 
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I like this posters thinking,he makes total sense. If the NFL has the rams go back to St Louis for one more year,you are not going to see any rams fans there whatsoever at all.they have terrible support already but knowing they are going to leave for LA in 2016,why would any rams fans show up for any of those games? makes no sense to not move this year.

Even listening to the St Louis sports talk shows, they cannot believe the Rams are still going to be in the EJD for 2015 and have virtually no fans or at least only visiting fans sitting there. MOVE THEM! I can't believe this league is pussy footing this thing around. What possible advantage could forcing the Rams to stay in STL as a lame duck have? Stan is already losing money in STL, is he really willing to set there and lose even more money? I don't get it. I though...t these owners were businessmen. A good many of the people in STL have disassociated themselves emotionally from the Rams so why would they buy tickets? If you think of the NFL as a major corporation and the Rams as what is called an Op-Co, why would the parent company want one of its Op-Cos in a situation to lose money? That is not how it works. I work for such a company and they want their Op-Cos to increase their profits each year no matter how well they did the year before. Keeping them in STL for 2015 is not logical in a business sense.

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interesting stuff here.as i have said,its no longer a question of will they return but will it be THIS year or next.we will find out for sure this sunday february 15th if they go back to the Lou.Hard to believe they would do that since stan has made it perfectly clear he intends to move them.why would anybody show up and watch the games this year at this point?

It would be the same as it was with the houston oilers when they annonced in the middle of the year they were leaving.after that happened,nobody showed up for the games the rest of the season and you had a lameduck product on the field.why would the NFL want to go through that again this year?

In this particular case, Kroenke has already purchased the land in Inglewood. And now he’s teaming up with [Stockbridge] to put together this mixed-use complex, which is going to include a football stadium. I just don’t see anything at this point [that would keep the Rams in St. Louis] – even despite the best efforts of those working behind the scenes in St. Louis and Missouri to keep the Rams."
 
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interesting stuff here.as i have said,its no longer a question of will they return but will it be THIS year or next.we will find out for sure this sunday february 15th if they go back to the Lou.Hard to believe they would do that since stan has made it perfectly clear he intends to move them.why would anybody show up and watch the games this year at this point?

It would be the same as it was with the houston oilers when they annonced in the middle of the year they were leaving.after that happened,nobody showed up for the games the rest of the season and you had a lameduck product on the field.why would the NFL want to go through that again this year?

In this particular case, Kroenke has already purchased the land in Inglewood. And now he’s teaming up with [Stockbridge] to put together this mixed-use complex, which is going to include a football stadium. I just don’t see anything at this point [that would keep the Rams in St. Louis] – even despite the best efforts of those working behind the scenes in St. Louis and Missouri to keep the Rams."
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I am predicting the Jaguars will be moving to St Louis. It is a far better sports town than Jacksonville.
 
Well, it is after the 15th of February and the Rams didn't announce the move to Los Angeles.

What happened?
 
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