Sallow
The Big Bad Wolf.
You're talking about staying on topic in a thread about Christie's bridge scandal while bringing up Benghazi?
That takes the fucking cake.
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Explosive documents connect Christie, bridge scandal
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You're talking about staying on topic in a thread about Christie's bridge scandal while bringing up Benghazi?
That takes the fucking cake.
That doesnt even make sense. How is it punishing the head of Senate Democrats by making other people wait on a bridge? Do the drivers there even know who Loretta Weinberg is? WOuld they think she caused the delay?On the afternoon of August 12, 2013 at a hastily called press conference, Chris Christie angrily called New Jersey Senate Democrats "animals" for blocking his reappointment of a Republican Supreme Court Justice.
The next morning at 7:34 am, Christie's deputy chief of staff emails Christie's Port Authority appointee that "It is time for some traffic problems in Fort Lee."
The head of the Senate Democrats is Loretta Weinberg, who represents the city of Fort Lee.
The reason for the blocking of the bridge traffic was not the lack of an endorsement from Fort Lee's mayor, but the New Jersey Senate Democrats blocking of Christie's appointee to the New Jersey Supreme Court.
No wonder this came from that ugly dyke. No wonder you are in awe at her credentials rather than critically examining what she says to see if it even makes sense.
You are Chris, Chief Dum-Dum of USMB.
What doesn't make sense to you?
You know what didn't make sense to me? The lane closures on my way to work.
I waited in traffic for an hour on the bridge and saw nothing happening in the closed lanes.
That..didn't make sense.
And now I find out that was done as a political bully move.
This is by the same guy that refused stimulus money to build a new tunnel between New York and New Jersey.
So while you were in traffic did you think to yourself, That Fucking Loretta Weinberg! I'm gonna make her pay for this next election time!
Of course not. That's why it's preposterous.
Sallow
The Big Bad Wolf.
A very striking difference between Big Ears handling his many scandals and Christie's handling his. BO never takes responsibility. He blames W, Rs, TP, or some made up thing like a video.
Did BO fire anyone for Fast & Furious?
Did BO fire anyone for the IRS scandal?
Did BO fire anyone for the Obamacare website debacle?
Did BO fire anyone for Bengahzi?
Did BO fire anyone for the NSA scandal?
Did BO fire anyone for the failures of his energy policies ie, green companies?
Did BO fire anyone for the sad state of the economy...big banks bigger, rich get richer, high unemployment, 1/3 of Americans on some form of government assistance, exploding national debt, etc............
and on and on.........
None of these were scandals.
They were conflations of the Conservatives in congress seeking to take down the American government.
Sure thing....but the Christie thing IS a scandal.
Can you spell HYPOCRISY?
These were Christie's people.
Hired by Christie.
Communicated to daily by Christie.
Yet, it's Christie's contention that they went "rogue".
That's after saying it was part of a traffic study.
Yeah..it's a scandal.
None of these were scandals.
They were conflations of the Conservatives in congress seeking to take down the American government.
Sure thing....but the Christie thing IS a scandal.
Can you spell HYPOCRISY?
These were Christie's people.
Hired by Christie.
Communicated to daily by Christie.
Yet, it's Christie's contention that they went "rogue".
That's after saying it was part of a traffic study.
Yeah..it's a scandal.
Im happy. Glad that maybe this will seal the fat clucks fate
-Geaux
NYcarbineer
Diamond Member
Let's look at it like this, a friend of mine pointed this out to me on Facebook a few minutes ago:
A liberal like Ted Kennedy can drive a woman off a bridge, serve nearly five decades in the Senate and be hailed as a courageous leader and a hero. But if a Republican shuts down a bridge, leftists are ready to tar and feather the man. Furthermore lest we forget what Obama himself did to our tourists and veterans after Republicans shut down the government, hoping they would take a hit politically. Just a burning question: but why is what Christie (or his aides) did any different?
Christie isn't my first choice for C in C, granted, but hey he's acted like one by firing people responsible for this. Which is more than you can say for the Obama administration. Has Obama fired anyone at the IRS? Has Obama fired anyone at the State Department for Benghazi? Has Obama fired anyone at the Justice Department for Fast and Furious? The answer would be no, no and no.
Forgive me for saying so, but something just isn't right here at all.
Why such effusive praise for Christie firing these people?
Their emails convicted them. Firing them at that point was easy.
Why?
Because the "MSM" actually likes Christie and wants this to die.
It won't.
Geez, yes, Mika and Scarborough this morning sounded like they were ready to jump into a threesome with Christie.
(I hope you all enjoy that visual image)
martybegan
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Are you saying that's not the law?
What I'm saying is you are not saying what the law actually is (big surprise, coming from you) that 501(c)(4) organizations cannot have lobbying and political campaigning as their PRIMARY activity.
Bullshit.
Internal Revenue Service agents have been struggling to do their jobswhich have been made essentially impossible by an incorrect interpretation of the law that the IRS made in 1959. It was then that the IRS changed the language of the law without any authority to do so. Here is how the tax law was written in its latest update in 1954 on 501(c)(4) social welfare organizations. The 501(c)(4) designation was to apply only to: Civic leagues or organizations not organized for profit but operated exclusively for the promotion of social welfare.
IRS illegally reinterpreted 501(c)(4) law regulating ?social welfare? organizations | The Secular Jurist
The law and IRS regulations do not comport.
THAT'S the real scandal.
A group that lobbies or has political views is not organized for profit, and considering you libs use the "general welfare" part of the consitutution to give the government carte blanche to do anything, why is having a political view not "social welfare"?
If Christie were a Dem, little would be said.
Hell if Christie were a Dem, he would probably be our next President.
I kinda like the guy. But you know at some point he is gonna get pissed at the far rights weirdness and come down on them. Just the way he is I think.
And that will cost him the nomination from the Repubs.
But can you hear him calling out the Congress.
Christie would give new life to the "bully pulpit".
These were Christie's people.
Hired by Christie.
Communicated to daily by Christie.
Yet, it's Christie's contention that they went "rogue".
That's after saying it was part of a traffic study.
Yeah..it's a scandal.
And when it came out that they'd done this and lied, they were fired by Christie. Maybe if Obama had shown that sort of leadership, all the things you think of as being fake scandals wouldn't have grown into scandals.
(oh, and your "Christie scandal" is just hyperventilating on your part. It's not a true scandal. You're just being partisan.)
If Christie were a Dem, little would be said.
Hell if Christie were a Dem, he would probably be our next President.
I kinda like the guy. But you know at some point he is gonna get pissed at the far rights weirdness and come down on them. Just the way he is I think.
And that will cost him the nomination from the Repubs.
But can you hear him calling out the Congress.
Christie would give new life to the "bully pulpit".
Christie like Snow, McCain et al, =DEMS in pub clothing
-Geaux
Sallow
The Big Bad Wolf.
What I'm saying is you are not saying what the law actually is (big surprise, coming from you) that 501(c)(4) organizations cannot have lobbying and political campaigning as their PRIMARY activity.
Bullshit.
Internal Revenue Service agents have been struggling to do their jobswhich have been made essentially impossible by an incorrect interpretation of the law that the IRS made in 1959. It was then that the IRS changed the language of the law without any authority to do so. Here is how the tax law was written in its latest update in 1954 on 501(c)(4) social welfare organizations. The 501(c)(4) designation was to apply only to: Civic leagues or organizations not organized for profit but operated exclusively for the promotion of social welfare.
IRS illegally reinterpreted 501(c)(4) law regulating ?social welfare? organizations | The Secular Jurist
The law and IRS regulations do not comport.
THAT'S the real scandal.
A group that lobbies or has political views is not organized for profit, and considering you libs use the "general welfare" part of the consitutution to give the government carte blanche to do anything, why is having a political view not "social welfare"?
That's the law, ace.
And it's funny that you guys are so "law and order" on some things..not so much on others.
NYcarbineer
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And all this praise for his press conference...
Look, there are 2 scenarios:
1. He is innocent beyond all doubt, and of course he knows this. It's easy to be bold, and forthcoming, and open, when you're innocent.
2. He is guilty, in some way, to some degree. In that case, he has nothing to lose by boldly, falsely, claiming to be innocent. This is not a wrongdoing that he could have owned up to and moved on. If he was involved, that's politically fatal.
He had no choice but to deny any involvement whatsoever. Doing what you have no choice but to do is not courageous, noble, or in any way particularly praiseworthy.
Look, there are 2 scenarios:
1. He is innocent beyond all doubt, and of course he knows this. It's easy to be bold, and forthcoming, and open, when you're innocent.
2. He is guilty, in some way, to some degree. In that case, he has nothing to lose by boldly, falsely, claiming to be innocent. This is not a wrongdoing that he could have owned up to and moved on. If he was involved, that's politically fatal.
He had no choice but to deny any involvement whatsoever. Doing what you have no choice but to do is not courageous, noble, or in any way particularly praiseworthy.
martybegan
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Bullshit.
The law and IRS regulations do not comport.
THAT'S the real scandal.
A group that lobbies or has political views is not organized for profit, and considering you libs use the "general welfare" part of the consitutution to give the government carte blanche to do anything, why is having a political view not "social welfare"?
That's the law, ace.
And it's funny that you guys are so "law and order" on some things..not so much on others.
Again, how is political activity not social welfare?
Sallow
The Big Bad Wolf.
These were Christie's people.
Hired by Christie.
Communicated to daily by Christie.
Yet, it's Christie's contention that they went "rogue".
That's after saying it was part of a traffic study.
Yeah..it's a scandal.
And when it came out that they'd done this and lied, they were fired by Christie. Maybe if Obama had shown that sort of leadership, all the things you think of as being fake scandals wouldn't have grown into scandals.
(oh, and your "Christie scandal" is just hyperventilating on your part. It's not a true scandal. You're just being partisan.)
We'll see how it plays out.
Right now? There's a crap load of civil suits being opened along with some state investigations.
In Christie's favor, the family of the 91 year old woman who died doesn't blame him.
That's a pretty big bullet he dodged.
Kosh
Quick Look Over There!
Bullshit.
The law and IRS regulations do not comport.
THAT'S the real scandal.
A group that lobbies or has political views is not organized for profit, and considering you libs use the "general welfare" part of the consitutution to give the government carte blanche to do anything, why is having a political view not "social welfare"?
That's the law, ace.
And it's funny that you guys are so "law and order" on some things..not so much on others.
Funny how all those "illegal" political originations were approved after the election.
In which the IRS claims they are "legal".
Thus defeating the far left talking point of "illegal".
martybegan
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These were Christie's people.
Hired by Christie.
Communicated to daily by Christie.
Yet, it's Christie's contention that they went "rogue".
That's after saying it was part of a traffic study.
Yeah..it's a scandal.
And when it came out that they'd done this and lied, they were fired by Christie. Maybe if Obama had shown that sort of leadership, all the things you think of as being fake scandals wouldn't have grown into scandals.
(oh, and your "Christie scandal" is just hyperventilating on your part. It's not a true scandal. You're just being partisan.)
We'll see how it plays out.
Right now? There's a crap load of civil suits being opened along with some state investigations.
In Christie's favor, the family of the 91 year old woman who died doesn't blame him.
That's a pretty big bullet he dodged.
Every single municipality will try to quash any lawsuit based on traffic. It would be a nightmare, as every pothole crew out would cause a flurry of lawsuits.
gipper
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None of these were scandals.
They were conflations of the Conservatives in congress seeking to take down the American government.
Sure thing....but the Christie thing IS a scandal.
Can you spell HYPOCRISY?
These were Christie's people.
Hired by Christie.
Communicated to daily by Christie.
Yet, it's Christie's contention that they went "rogue".
That's after saying it was part of a traffic study.
Yeah..it's a scandal.
Your hypocrisy on this issue is enormous.
BO hired all sorts of idiots who committed wrongs, but you see nothing wrong there.
How can one be so ignorantly partisan?
Sallow
The Big Bad Wolf.
A group that lobbies or has political views is not organized for profit, and considering you libs use the "general welfare" part of the consitutution to give the government carte blanche to do anything, why is having a political view not "social welfare"?
That's the law, ace.
And it's funny that you guys are so "law and order" on some things..not so much on others.
Again, how is political activity not social welfare?
definition of SOCIAL WELFARE
: organized public or private social services for the assistance of disadvantaged groups; specifically : social work
The wealthy don't count as "disadvantaged".
Theowl32
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The media may or may not report on these individual occurrences, but what they will never do is provide the American people with the full context and scope of Obama's shrill pettiness.
Below is a list of illogical, unnecessary, and shockingly spiteful moves our government is making in the name of essential and non-essential.
1. Treatments for Children Suffering From Cancer - The GOP have agreed to a compromise by funding part of the government, including the National Institutes of Health, which offers children with cancer last-chance experimental treatment. Obama has threatened to veto this funding.
2. The World War II Memorial - The WWII memorial on the DC Mall is a 24/7 open-air memorial that is not regularly staffed. Although the White House must have known that WWII veterans in their eighties and nineties had already booked flights to visit this memorial, the White House still found the resources to spitefully barricade the attraction.
The Republican National Committee has offered to cover any costs required to keep the memorial open. The White House refused. Moreover, like the NIH, the GOP will pass a compromise bill that would fund America's national parks. Obama has threatened to veto that bill.
3. Furloughed Military Chaplains Not Allowed to Work for Free - Furloughed military chaplains willing to celebrate Mass and baptisms for free have been told they will be punished for doing so.
4. Business Stops In Florida Keys - Although the GOP have agreed to compromise in the ongoing budget stalemate and fund the parks, Obama has threatened to veto that funding. As a result, small businesses, hunters, and commercial fisherman can't practice their trade. While the feds have deemed the personnel necessary to keep this area open "non-essential," the "enforcement officers" to ensure no business is done are "essential."
5. Obama Blacks Out Sports, Entertainment Programming to Overseas Troops - The American Forces Network (AFN) that provides American sports and entertainment programming to our troops stationed abroad, has been shut down. For some reason, though, AFN News will still broadcast news, just not any of the popular and fun stuff.
Camp David is essential, but popular programming for heroes overseas is non-essential.
6. Obama Closes D-Day Memorial - The GOP have offered to compromise and fund the National Parks. Obama has said he will veto this compromise legislation. As a result, along with 24 other military cemeteries, the D-Day memorial in Normandy has been barricaded.
7. Obama Tries to Close Privately-Funded Mt. Vernon - Although George Washington's Mt. Vernon estate is privately funded, the feds blocked visitors from entering the parking area because the Park Service maintains the lot. Apparently, the New Media publicity resulted in the feds backing down.
8. Obama Closes Over 100 Privately-Managed Parks That Cost No Money to Run - The U.S. Treasury actually makes money from the rent paid by a private company that "employs about 400-500 camp workers and managers across about a dozen states." No federal money is used to operate these parks. No federal employees are used to staff these parks. Taxpayers make a profit from these parks. Still, Obama had them closed and as a result 400-500 employees and a private business are taking it in the neck.
9. Obama Closes Self-Sustaining Colonial Farm It Hasn’t Supported Since 1980 - "For the first time in 40 years, the National Park Service (NPS) has finally succeeded in closing the Farm down to the public. In previous budget dramas, the Farm has always been exempted since the NPS provides no staff or resources to operate the Farm.”
10. Obama Tries to Close State-Run Parks in Wisconsin - "The park service ordered state officials to close the northern unit of the Kettle Moraine, Devil's Lake, and Interstate state parks and the state-owned portion of the Horicon Marsh, but state authorities rebuffed the request because the lion's share of the funding came from state, not federal coffers."
11. Obama Closes Vietnam Memorial - The GOP have passed compromise legislation that would fund national memorials and parks, and open them to the public. Obama threatened a veto. Apparently, the "essential" government employees are those erecting barricades, not those who could keep the memorial open.
12. Obama Closes Privately-Owned Hotel, Police Block Parking Lot - "The operator of a 51-room inn located on U.S. government-owned land in North Carolina abandoned his defiant stance on Thursday to keep the property open despite being ordered to close as part of the federal government shutdown."
October is this inn's prime season. The GOP have offered compromise funding opening the parks. Obama said he will veto that compromise.
State troopers blocked customers from entering the inn's parking lot.
13. Park Service Ranger: 'We've Been Told to Make Life As Difficult For People As We Can' - “It’s a cheap way to deal with the situation,” an angry Park Service ranger in Washington says of the harassment. “We’ve been told to make life as difficult for people as we can. It’s disgusting.”
14. Obama Forces Residents Out of Private Homes - "The government shutdown is being felt close to home for some locals. They say they're being forced out of private homes on Lake Mead because they sit on federal land."
The GOP have agreed to fund the parks. Obama has threatened a veto.
15. Acadia Park In Maine Shut Down - '"We’ve been training for two years at CrossFit for this hike — no kidding,” Hart said. She added that the shutdown should be as inconvenient for the Washington politicians who caused it as it is for average citizens.'
The GOP have agreed to fund the parks. Obama said he will veto.
16. Historic Restaurant Open During Last Shutdown Forced to Close - "An iconic Philadelphia restaurant has been forced to close its doors and turn away booked parties because of the government shutdown. …
"Restaurant public relations director Molly Yun said they were notified there was a possibility a closure might happen, but they were allowed to remain open during the last government shutdown 17 years ago."
The restaurant is part of the federal park system, which the GOP have agreed to fund. Obama said he will veto the funding.
17. Obama Shuts Down a Road Tha Goes Through CO Park: "The Forest Service announcement, in turn, led the Pitkin County commissioners to order that Maroon Creek Road be shut down at the height of the colorful leaf-changing season. Ahead of what is to be one of the busiest weekends of the fall, the road is to be closed to vehicles at T-Lazy-7 Ranch, pending a resolution to the government shutdown."
The GOP have agreed to fund the parks. Obama said he will veto that compromise funding.
18. Residents Plan Protest of Cape Hatteras Closing - "Businesses and residents on the Outer Banks have planned a peaceful protest of the closure of Hatteras Island's beaches due to the government shut down.
"The U.S. House Wednesday passed a measure to reopen national parks and monuments. It will now go to the U.S. Senate."
In the unlikely event the Democrat Senate passes the bill, Obama has threatened a veto of any compromise legislation opening the parks.
19. Obama Blocks People From LOOKING at Mt. Rushmore - "Blocking access to trails and programs at South Dakota’s most popular attraction was one thing, but state officials didn’t expect Congress’ budget stalemate to shut down a view of Mount Rushmore.
"The National Park Service placed cones along highway viewing areas outside Mount Rushmore this week, barring visitors from pulling over and taking pictures of the famed monument.
The cones first went up Oct. 1, said Dusty Johnson, Gov. Dennis Daugaard’s chief of staff. The state asked that they be taken down, and federal officials did so with some of them. The state was told the cones were a safety precaution to help channel cars into viewing areas rather than to bar their entrance."
20. Crucial USDA Websites Taken Down - "The U.S. Department of Agriculture has turned off its entire website in response to the government shutdown, leaving farmers, reporters and others with no way to access any of the agency's information online. …
"USDA's total website shutdown goes far beyond the response of other federal agencies, and seems to be part of an effort to make people feel the effects of the shutdown. Thursday morning calls to USDA's press office seeking an explanation were not answered."
This website is down and yet the ObamaCare and White House websites are up.
21. St. Louis Gateway Arch Closed - The GOP have agreed to compromise legislation funding the parks. Obama has threatened a veto.
22. Park Shutdown Bounces Rowers from Potomac - "The ripple effect of a government shutdown has pushed rowers from the Potomac River.
"Multiple high schools rent space at the Thompson Boat Center in Georgetown. But like other places controlled by the National Park Service, it closed Tuesday morning."
The GOP have agreed to compromise funding opening the parks. Obama has threatened a veto.
23. Thompson Boat Center Closed In DC - The GOP have agreed to fund the parks. Obama said he will veto.
24. Obama Closes Military Commissary - "Military members, veterans and families who shop at local tax-free store are shocked to discover the store's doors locked; no progress to end stalemate in Washington."
While the government has deemed the White House chefs "essential," working class military personnel have lost their tax-free store privileges.
Military personnel and their families tell me that they have never lost these privileges in previous shutdowns.
25. Arizona Offers to Fund Grand Canyon, Obama Says 'Drop Dead' - "Obama has ordered the Grand Canyon to stay closed, even after the state of Arizona and local businesses have offered to cover the costs necessary to keep it open. In other words, the shutdown isn’t about the money — it’s about hurting the American people just because he can."
26. Amber Alert Website Taken Offline - CNN reported that bad press was a factor in the site going back up.
Why would White House chefs and Obama's golf course be categorized as "essential," while the government classified as "non-essential" the Amber Alert website?
Of course, this is the same Obama threatening to veto cancer treatments for children.
27. Miramar Air Show Canceled With One-Day Notice -“The emotional and economic impacts of losing this year’s event are great, and I’m extremely disappointed in the political dysfunction that brought us to this point,” Gloria said.
"Proceeds from the event go to programs that support families of military personnel, he said."
28. At Start of Peak Season, Shutdown Closes Peaks of Otter Lodge - "Although the Blue Ridge Parkway remains open to travelers, the Peaks of Otter Lodge cannot stay open while the National Park Service is not operating during to the government shutdown. With no Congressional compromise reached by the end of the day Monday, the lodge’s restaurant shut down and guests were given 48 hours to find somewhere else to stay."
The GOP have agreed to compromise and fund the parks. Obama has threatened a veto.
29. Federal Prison Guards Not Getting Paid, Inmates Are - "Most of the employees at the federal prison in Forrest City are working without knowing when they will get a paycheck because of the government shutdown, but some of the inmates who get paid for the work they do inside will have no problem collecting their money."
30. Family that Paid $2,000 for Permit Not Allowed to Raft - "Sorry for the inconvenience," it read.
That's when rangers told them they wouldn't be able to put in on the river the next day, despite having paid $2,000 for a permit to do so.
The news was shattering, Scott Lee said.
The GOP have agreed to fund the parks. Obama has threatened a veto.
31. Although Privately Funded, Historic Ford's Theater Closed - "Ford's Theatre, which is a private non-profit 501(c)(3) organization, does not use any federal funding or federal employees for its performances. During previous government shutdowns, the theatre has continued performances."
32. King Crab Season Threatened by Government Shutdown - "The Alaska king crab season is set to start soon, but all the fishing boats will have to stay docked because the government must sign off on permits and quotas.
"Fisherman stand to lose hundreds of thousands of dollars unless lawmakers make a compromise."
Obama's golf course is open. So is the website for Michelle Obama's "Let's Move."
33. Children Might Lose School Lunches - "Minnesotans are adjusting to the partial government shutdown, but if it lingers too long, there is a chance the 300,000 kids who rely on free or reduced lunches at school could go hungry."
The White House chefs have not been furloughed.
34. Feds Shut Down Major Roadway, Puts Children's Lives at Risk - "Nearly a third of Blount County is inside the Great Smoky Mountains National Park. So when the federal government shut down the park, it also shut down one of the area’s chief sources of revenue.
"The children live in the eastern Tennessee community of Top of the World – serviced by School Bus 49. Normally, the bus travels along the Foothills Parkway. Other roads leading to the isolated mountain community are impassible by bus.
"“It’s dangerous,” said Nancy Kemp, the spokesperson for Blount County Schools.”It’s very curvy and straight up the mountain. It’s just not a safe route.”"
The GOP have offered compromise legislation funding the parks. Obama has threatened a veto.
35. Road to Brasstown Bald Closed During Peak Season - "It's not unusual for the road to the top of Brasstown Bald, the highest point in Georgia, to be closed in the winter months but in early October, with "leaf-looking" season just around the corner?
"The Georgia Department of Transporation (GDOT) announced Monday, though, that it is, in fact, closed. Why? At the request of the U.S. Forest Service and because of the government shutdown. The forest service operates the facilities on top of the mountain as well as the visitors center at its base."
The GOP have offered compromise legislation to open the parks. Obama has threatened a veto.
36. Columbia Island and Washington Sailing Marina Closed - Email from reader: "My husband received an email from WSM saying that boat owners could only go to their boats to remove items. If they leave the slip with their boat they are not allowed to return to their (paid for) slip the government re opens."
37. IRS Collections Operational, Taxpayer Advocate Office Closed - Per an email from reader.
38. Eleven Hundred Square Miles of Florida Ocean Closed - Email: "You omitted the ban on Florida charter boat captains taking fishermen into an 1,100 square mile section of ocean of the coast of Tampa. Apparently, government resources patrol it."
39. Iwo Jima Memorial Closed, Barricades Erected - "Another open-air memorial in the Washington area is closed and barricaded off: the Iwo Jima Memorial, just across the bridge from D.C. in Rosslyn, Virginia. A source sends along this picture of the barricade set-up at the memorial, which is also called the U.S. Marine Corps War Memorial."
40. Police Remove Vietnam War Veterans at Memorial Wall - "Via William Jacobson, NBC's affiliate in Washington, D.C. reports that police ordered tourists and Vietnam war veterans who were visiting the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Wall to leave the memorial at one point on Friday."
41. Shutdown Denies Death Benefits to Families of Fallen Soldiers - "The families of five U.S. service members who were killed over the weekend in Afghanistan have been notified that they won't be receiving the $100,000 benefit normally wired to relatives within 36 hours of the death. The “death gratuity” is intended to help cover funeral costs and help with immediate living expenses until survivor benefits typically begin."
42. Priests Risk Arrest for Offering Sacraments to Catholic Troops During Shutdown - "Some Catholic priests under contract or GS (general schedule) to the military are not allowed to offer the Catholic sacraments--including saying Mass, consecrating marriages, or performing baptisms--on military property during the government shutdown, and if they do, even on a volunteer basis, they risk being arrested, according to the general counsel for the Archdiocese for the Military Services, USA."
Meanwhile, the White House chefs, Obama's golf course, and the First Lady's "Let's Move" program remain essential.
43. Priest: Obama Admin. Denied Mass to Catholics - "Apparently, a priest was denied access to a military chapel this weekend. Father Ray Leonard serves at Naval Submarine Base Kings Bay in Georgia but because of the government shutdown, he wasn’t allowed to go to celebrate Mass this past weekend.
"He is contracted by the Defense Department to meet the spiritual needs of Catholics, but not now. The chapel doors were locked and the sign said, “Shutdown: No Catholic service till further notice.”"
44. Yellowstone: Tourists Locked In Hotel Under Armed Guard Thought They Were Under Arrest - "Vaillancourt was one of thousands of people who found themselves in a national park as the federal government shutdown went into effect on Oct. 1. For many hours her tour group, which included senior citizen visitors from Japan, Australia, Canada and the United States, were locked in a Yellowstone National Park hotel under armed guard."
45. Man Jogging in National Park Fined $100 - "A Pennsylvania man who went jogging in a national historic park was slapped with a $100 fine because the area was closed due to Washington’s budget impasse, he said Tuesday."
46. Private Restaurant Owners Defy Govt. Shutdown Order, Fed Drop Hammer - "After a two-day return, the Cliff House will be forced to close again on Wednesday, and according to the restaurant, will remain closed for the duration of the shutdown."
47. NIH Stops Therapy Dogs from Visiting Sick Children - "It should be noted that on the list of the top 1000 salaries in the federal government in 2011, 23 of the top 28 were officials at the National Institutes of Health; all made over $290,000 per year."
The List: Unnecessarily Shut Down by Obama to Inflict Public Pain
Fucking praetorian left wing hacks in the media.
Did Obama ever apologize for being caught lying about...............................
everything?
Below is a list of illogical, unnecessary, and shockingly spiteful moves our government is making in the name of essential and non-essential.
1. Treatments for Children Suffering From Cancer - The GOP have agreed to a compromise by funding part of the government, including the National Institutes of Health, which offers children with cancer last-chance experimental treatment. Obama has threatened to veto this funding.
2. The World War II Memorial - The WWII memorial on the DC Mall is a 24/7 open-air memorial that is not regularly staffed. Although the White House must have known that WWII veterans in their eighties and nineties had already booked flights to visit this memorial, the White House still found the resources to spitefully barricade the attraction.
The Republican National Committee has offered to cover any costs required to keep the memorial open. The White House refused. Moreover, like the NIH, the GOP will pass a compromise bill that would fund America's national parks. Obama has threatened to veto that bill.
3. Furloughed Military Chaplains Not Allowed to Work for Free - Furloughed military chaplains willing to celebrate Mass and baptisms for free have been told they will be punished for doing so.
4. Business Stops In Florida Keys - Although the GOP have agreed to compromise in the ongoing budget stalemate and fund the parks, Obama has threatened to veto that funding. As a result, small businesses, hunters, and commercial fisherman can't practice their trade. While the feds have deemed the personnel necessary to keep this area open "non-essential," the "enforcement officers" to ensure no business is done are "essential."
5. Obama Blacks Out Sports, Entertainment Programming to Overseas Troops - The American Forces Network (AFN) that provides American sports and entertainment programming to our troops stationed abroad, has been shut down. For some reason, though, AFN News will still broadcast news, just not any of the popular and fun stuff.
Camp David is essential, but popular programming for heroes overseas is non-essential.
6. Obama Closes D-Day Memorial - The GOP have offered to compromise and fund the National Parks. Obama has said he will veto this compromise legislation. As a result, along with 24 other military cemeteries, the D-Day memorial in Normandy has been barricaded.
7. Obama Tries to Close Privately-Funded Mt. Vernon - Although George Washington's Mt. Vernon estate is privately funded, the feds blocked visitors from entering the parking area because the Park Service maintains the lot. Apparently, the New Media publicity resulted in the feds backing down.
8. Obama Closes Over 100 Privately-Managed Parks That Cost No Money to Run - The U.S. Treasury actually makes money from the rent paid by a private company that "employs about 400-500 camp workers and managers across about a dozen states." No federal money is used to operate these parks. No federal employees are used to staff these parks. Taxpayers make a profit from these parks. Still, Obama had them closed and as a result 400-500 employees and a private business are taking it in the neck.
9. Obama Closes Self-Sustaining Colonial Farm It Hasn’t Supported Since 1980 - "For the first time in 40 years, the National Park Service (NPS) has finally succeeded in closing the Farm down to the public. In previous budget dramas, the Farm has always been exempted since the NPS provides no staff or resources to operate the Farm.”
10. Obama Tries to Close State-Run Parks in Wisconsin - "The park service ordered state officials to close the northern unit of the Kettle Moraine, Devil's Lake, and Interstate state parks and the state-owned portion of the Horicon Marsh, but state authorities rebuffed the request because the lion's share of the funding came from state, not federal coffers."
11. Obama Closes Vietnam Memorial - The GOP have passed compromise legislation that would fund national memorials and parks, and open them to the public. Obama threatened a veto. Apparently, the "essential" government employees are those erecting barricades, not those who could keep the memorial open.
12. Obama Closes Privately-Owned Hotel, Police Block Parking Lot - "The operator of a 51-room inn located on U.S. government-owned land in North Carolina abandoned his defiant stance on Thursday to keep the property open despite being ordered to close as part of the federal government shutdown."
October is this inn's prime season. The GOP have offered compromise funding opening the parks. Obama said he will veto that compromise.
State troopers blocked customers from entering the inn's parking lot.
13. Park Service Ranger: 'We've Been Told to Make Life As Difficult For People As We Can' - “It’s a cheap way to deal with the situation,” an angry Park Service ranger in Washington says of the harassment. “We’ve been told to make life as difficult for people as we can. It’s disgusting.”
14. Obama Forces Residents Out of Private Homes - "The government shutdown is being felt close to home for some locals. They say they're being forced out of private homes on Lake Mead because they sit on federal land."
The GOP have agreed to fund the parks. Obama has threatened a veto.
15. Acadia Park In Maine Shut Down - '"We’ve been training for two years at CrossFit for this hike — no kidding,” Hart said. She added that the shutdown should be as inconvenient for the Washington politicians who caused it as it is for average citizens.'
The GOP have agreed to fund the parks. Obama said he will veto.
16. Historic Restaurant Open During Last Shutdown Forced to Close - "An iconic Philadelphia restaurant has been forced to close its doors and turn away booked parties because of the government shutdown. …
"Restaurant public relations director Molly Yun said they were notified there was a possibility a closure might happen, but they were allowed to remain open during the last government shutdown 17 years ago."
The restaurant is part of the federal park system, which the GOP have agreed to fund. Obama said he will veto the funding.
17. Obama Shuts Down a Road Tha Goes Through CO Park: "The Forest Service announcement, in turn, led the Pitkin County commissioners to order that Maroon Creek Road be shut down at the height of the colorful leaf-changing season. Ahead of what is to be one of the busiest weekends of the fall, the road is to be closed to vehicles at T-Lazy-7 Ranch, pending a resolution to the government shutdown."
The GOP have agreed to fund the parks. Obama said he will veto that compromise funding.
18. Residents Plan Protest of Cape Hatteras Closing - "Businesses and residents on the Outer Banks have planned a peaceful protest of the closure of Hatteras Island's beaches due to the government shut down.
"The U.S. House Wednesday passed a measure to reopen national parks and monuments. It will now go to the U.S. Senate."
In the unlikely event the Democrat Senate passes the bill, Obama has threatened a veto of any compromise legislation opening the parks.
19. Obama Blocks People From LOOKING at Mt. Rushmore - "Blocking access to trails and programs at South Dakota’s most popular attraction was one thing, but state officials didn’t expect Congress’ budget stalemate to shut down a view of Mount Rushmore.
"The National Park Service placed cones along highway viewing areas outside Mount Rushmore this week, barring visitors from pulling over and taking pictures of the famed monument.
The cones first went up Oct. 1, said Dusty Johnson, Gov. Dennis Daugaard’s chief of staff. The state asked that they be taken down, and federal officials did so with some of them. The state was told the cones were a safety precaution to help channel cars into viewing areas rather than to bar their entrance."
20. Crucial USDA Websites Taken Down - "The U.S. Department of Agriculture has turned off its entire website in response to the government shutdown, leaving farmers, reporters and others with no way to access any of the agency's information online. …
"USDA's total website shutdown goes far beyond the response of other federal agencies, and seems to be part of an effort to make people feel the effects of the shutdown. Thursday morning calls to USDA's press office seeking an explanation were not answered."
This website is down and yet the ObamaCare and White House websites are up.
21. St. Louis Gateway Arch Closed - The GOP have agreed to compromise legislation funding the parks. Obama has threatened a veto.
22. Park Shutdown Bounces Rowers from Potomac - "The ripple effect of a government shutdown has pushed rowers from the Potomac River.
"Multiple high schools rent space at the Thompson Boat Center in Georgetown. But like other places controlled by the National Park Service, it closed Tuesday morning."
The GOP have agreed to compromise funding opening the parks. Obama has threatened a veto.
23. Thompson Boat Center Closed In DC - The GOP have agreed to fund the parks. Obama said he will veto.
24. Obama Closes Military Commissary - "Military members, veterans and families who shop at local tax-free store are shocked to discover the store's doors locked; no progress to end stalemate in Washington."
While the government has deemed the White House chefs "essential," working class military personnel have lost their tax-free store privileges.
Military personnel and their families tell me that they have never lost these privileges in previous shutdowns.
25. Arizona Offers to Fund Grand Canyon, Obama Says 'Drop Dead' - "Obama has ordered the Grand Canyon to stay closed, even after the state of Arizona and local businesses have offered to cover the costs necessary to keep it open. In other words, the shutdown isn’t about the money — it’s about hurting the American people just because he can."
26. Amber Alert Website Taken Offline - CNN reported that bad press was a factor in the site going back up.
Why would White House chefs and Obama's golf course be categorized as "essential," while the government classified as "non-essential" the Amber Alert website?
Of course, this is the same Obama threatening to veto cancer treatments for children.
27. Miramar Air Show Canceled With One-Day Notice -“The emotional and economic impacts of losing this year’s event are great, and I’m extremely disappointed in the political dysfunction that brought us to this point,” Gloria said.
"Proceeds from the event go to programs that support families of military personnel, he said."
28. At Start of Peak Season, Shutdown Closes Peaks of Otter Lodge - "Although the Blue Ridge Parkway remains open to travelers, the Peaks of Otter Lodge cannot stay open while the National Park Service is not operating during to the government shutdown. With no Congressional compromise reached by the end of the day Monday, the lodge’s restaurant shut down and guests were given 48 hours to find somewhere else to stay."
The GOP have agreed to compromise and fund the parks. Obama has threatened a veto.
29. Federal Prison Guards Not Getting Paid, Inmates Are - "Most of the employees at the federal prison in Forrest City are working without knowing when they will get a paycheck because of the government shutdown, but some of the inmates who get paid for the work they do inside will have no problem collecting their money."
30. Family that Paid $2,000 for Permit Not Allowed to Raft - "Sorry for the inconvenience," it read.
That's when rangers told them they wouldn't be able to put in on the river the next day, despite having paid $2,000 for a permit to do so.
The news was shattering, Scott Lee said.
The GOP have agreed to fund the parks. Obama has threatened a veto.
31. Although Privately Funded, Historic Ford's Theater Closed - "Ford's Theatre, which is a private non-profit 501(c)(3) organization, does not use any federal funding or federal employees for its performances. During previous government shutdowns, the theatre has continued performances."
32. King Crab Season Threatened by Government Shutdown - "The Alaska king crab season is set to start soon, but all the fishing boats will have to stay docked because the government must sign off on permits and quotas.
"Fisherman stand to lose hundreds of thousands of dollars unless lawmakers make a compromise."
Obama's golf course is open. So is the website for Michelle Obama's "Let's Move."
33. Children Might Lose School Lunches - "Minnesotans are adjusting to the partial government shutdown, but if it lingers too long, there is a chance the 300,000 kids who rely on free or reduced lunches at school could go hungry."
The White House chefs have not been furloughed.
34. Feds Shut Down Major Roadway, Puts Children's Lives at Risk - "Nearly a third of Blount County is inside the Great Smoky Mountains National Park. So when the federal government shut down the park, it also shut down one of the area’s chief sources of revenue.
"The children live in the eastern Tennessee community of Top of the World – serviced by School Bus 49. Normally, the bus travels along the Foothills Parkway. Other roads leading to the isolated mountain community are impassible by bus.
"“It’s dangerous,” said Nancy Kemp, the spokesperson for Blount County Schools.”It’s very curvy and straight up the mountain. It’s just not a safe route.”"
The GOP have offered compromise legislation funding the parks. Obama has threatened a veto.
35. Road to Brasstown Bald Closed During Peak Season - "It's not unusual for the road to the top of Brasstown Bald, the highest point in Georgia, to be closed in the winter months but in early October, with "leaf-looking" season just around the corner?
"The Georgia Department of Transporation (GDOT) announced Monday, though, that it is, in fact, closed. Why? At the request of the U.S. Forest Service and because of the government shutdown. The forest service operates the facilities on top of the mountain as well as the visitors center at its base."
The GOP have offered compromise legislation to open the parks. Obama has threatened a veto.
36. Columbia Island and Washington Sailing Marina Closed - Email from reader: "My husband received an email from WSM saying that boat owners could only go to their boats to remove items. If they leave the slip with their boat they are not allowed to return to their (paid for) slip the government re opens."
37. IRS Collections Operational, Taxpayer Advocate Office Closed - Per an email from reader.
38. Eleven Hundred Square Miles of Florida Ocean Closed - Email: "You omitted the ban on Florida charter boat captains taking fishermen into an 1,100 square mile section of ocean of the coast of Tampa. Apparently, government resources patrol it."
39. Iwo Jima Memorial Closed, Barricades Erected - "Another open-air memorial in the Washington area is closed and barricaded off: the Iwo Jima Memorial, just across the bridge from D.C. in Rosslyn, Virginia. A source sends along this picture of the barricade set-up at the memorial, which is also called the U.S. Marine Corps War Memorial."
40. Police Remove Vietnam War Veterans at Memorial Wall - "Via William Jacobson, NBC's affiliate in Washington, D.C. reports that police ordered tourists and Vietnam war veterans who were visiting the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Wall to leave the memorial at one point on Friday."
41. Shutdown Denies Death Benefits to Families of Fallen Soldiers - "The families of five U.S. service members who were killed over the weekend in Afghanistan have been notified that they won't be receiving the $100,000 benefit normally wired to relatives within 36 hours of the death. The “death gratuity” is intended to help cover funeral costs and help with immediate living expenses until survivor benefits typically begin."
42. Priests Risk Arrest for Offering Sacraments to Catholic Troops During Shutdown - "Some Catholic priests under contract or GS (general schedule) to the military are not allowed to offer the Catholic sacraments--including saying Mass, consecrating marriages, or performing baptisms--on military property during the government shutdown, and if they do, even on a volunteer basis, they risk being arrested, according to the general counsel for the Archdiocese for the Military Services, USA."
Meanwhile, the White House chefs, Obama's golf course, and the First Lady's "Let's Move" program remain essential.
43. Priest: Obama Admin. Denied Mass to Catholics - "Apparently, a priest was denied access to a military chapel this weekend. Father Ray Leonard serves at Naval Submarine Base Kings Bay in Georgia but because of the government shutdown, he wasn’t allowed to go to celebrate Mass this past weekend.
"He is contracted by the Defense Department to meet the spiritual needs of Catholics, but not now. The chapel doors were locked and the sign said, “Shutdown: No Catholic service till further notice.”"
44. Yellowstone: Tourists Locked In Hotel Under Armed Guard Thought They Were Under Arrest - "Vaillancourt was one of thousands of people who found themselves in a national park as the federal government shutdown went into effect on Oct. 1. For many hours her tour group, which included senior citizen visitors from Japan, Australia, Canada and the United States, were locked in a Yellowstone National Park hotel under armed guard."
45. Man Jogging in National Park Fined $100 - "A Pennsylvania man who went jogging in a national historic park was slapped with a $100 fine because the area was closed due to Washington’s budget impasse, he said Tuesday."
46. Private Restaurant Owners Defy Govt. Shutdown Order, Fed Drop Hammer - "After a two-day return, the Cliff House will be forced to close again on Wednesday, and according to the restaurant, will remain closed for the duration of the shutdown."
47. NIH Stops Therapy Dogs from Visiting Sick Children - "It should be noted that on the list of the top 1000 salaries in the federal government in 2011, 23 of the top 28 were officials at the National Institutes of Health; all made over $290,000 per year."
The List: Unnecessarily Shut Down by Obama to Inflict Public Pain
Fucking praetorian left wing hacks in the media.
Did Obama ever apologize for being caught lying about...............................
everything?
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Sallow
The Big Bad Wolf.
Specifically?Sure thing....but the Christie thing IS a scandal.
Can you spell HYPOCRISY?
These were Christie's people.
Hired by Christie.
Communicated to daily by Christie.
Yet, it's Christie's contention that they went "rogue".
That's after saying it was part of a traffic study.
Yeah..it's a scandal.
Your hypocrisy on this issue is enormous.
BO hired all sorts of idiots who committed wrongs, but you see nothing wrong there.
How can one be so ignorantly partisan?
These were Christie's people.
Hired by Christie.
Communicated to daily by Christie.
Yet, it's Christie's contention that they went "rogue".
That's after saying it was part of a traffic study.
Yeah..it's a scandal.
And when it came out that they'd done this and lied, they were fired by Christie. Maybe if Obama had shown that sort of leadership, all the things you think of as being fake scandals wouldn't have grown into scandals.
(oh, and your "Christie scandal" is just hyperventilating on your part. It's not a true scandal. You're just being partisan.)
We'll see how it plays out.
Right now? There's a crap load of civil suits being opened along with some state investigations.
In Christie's favor, the family of the 91 year old woman who died doesn't blame him.
That's a pretty big bullet he dodged.
You don't dodge bullets if you've done nothing wrong.
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