Farmington, NM police: 3 people killed, 2 officers injured in shooting; suspect dead

[2aguy]

No, you moron. Unite the Right wasn’t ran by leftists. You’re delusional. Post your link backing up your bullshit.

Moron......they are not free market capitalists...they do not believe in the U.S. Constitution or Bill of Rights, they are racists...again, they have more in common with the democrat party....

 

[XponentialChaos]

It is when you call it "white supremacy," you clod.

How many asians are white supremacists?

How many blacks are white supremacists>

Convenient that a mass public shooter can be called a white supremacist when he is hispanic...

Remember, you morons believed George Zimmerman was a "white" hispanic too....

That’s what he posted, you fucking idiot. Are you going to just ignore his “make America white again” post? Are you going to ignore his adoration for Hitler? Why?! Oh I know why? Because of your feelings.

Fucking moron.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Moron......they are not free market capitalists...they do not believe in the U.S. Constitution or Bill of Rights, they are racists...again, they have more in common with the democrat party....

I said post your link, retard. What’s the matter? Can’t back up your bullshit when you don‘t have a big wall of blue text ready to copy/paste?

 

[2aguy]

That’s what he posted, you fucking idiot. Are you going to just ignore his “make America white again” post? Are you going to ignore his adoration for Hitler? Why?! Oh I know why? Because of your feelings.

Fucking moron.

He was mentally ill........he went to a public place and murdered people.......

He was hispanic, and therefore can't be a white supremacist....

Again....

how many asians are white supremacists?

How many blacks are white supremacists?

It is just convenient for you assholes that this one mass public shooter is now a white supremacist, even though he is hispanic....

 

[2aguy]

I said post your link, retard. What’s the matter? Can’t back up your bullshit when you don‘t have a big wall of blue text ready to copy/paste?

Go and link for us to the beliefs of the neo-nazis.....other than their racism...once you do that, we will discuss their leftism.

To hide their closer ties to democrat party beliefs, the leftists who write the articles about the neo-nazis never mention anything other than their race hate.....funny how that is........

 

[XponentialChaos]

He was mentally ill........he went to a public place and murdered people.......

He was hispanic, and therefore can't be a white supremacist....

Again....

how many asians are white supremacists?

How many blacks are white supremacists?

It is just convenient for you assholes that this one mass public shooter is now a white supremacist, even though he is hispanic....

He killed Hispanics too, you fucking idiot. Ideology isn’t tied to race. I’m telling you what he posted. There’s evidence for that. Your bullshit about him hating non-Hispanics is completely made up.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Go and link for us to the beliefs of the neo-nazis.....other than their racism...once you do that, we will discuss their leftism.

To hide their closer ties to democrat party beliefs, the leftists who write the articles about the neo-nazis never mention anything other than their race hate.....funny how that is........

So still no link that Unite the Right was ran by leftists. Still waiting you little bitch. Care to try again? This time try backing up your bullshit with a link.

 

[2aguy]

I said post your link, retard. What’s the matter? Can’t back up your bullshit when you don‘t have a big wall of blue text ready to copy/paste?

Here is a look at actual nazis....so "neo-nazis," will have the same beliefs........

You idiots focus on their racism because if you don't, then their other beliefs will tie them directly to the democrat party....

Read A Pile Of Top Nazis Talking About How They Love Leftist Marxism

The Nazis were leftists. This statement is blasphemy to the academic-media complex, since everyone knows the Nazis were degenerate right-wingers fueled by toxic capitalism and racism. But evidence Adolf Hitler’s gang were men of the left, while debatable, is compelling.
The dispute on Nazi origins resurfaced through the confluence of brawling alt-right and antifa fringe movements and recent alternative histories by Dinesh D’Souza and others. The vitriol and lack of candor it produces from supposedly fact-driven academics and media is disturbing, if unsurprising. They stifle dissent on touchy subjects to maintain their narrative and enforce cultural hegemony.

However uncomfortable to opinion shapers, alternative views of the Third Reich exist and were written by the finest minds of their time. Opinions from the period perhaps carry more weight because they are unburdened by the aftermath of the uniquely heinous Nazi crimes.
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Also, Adolf Hitler Loved Karl Marx
It wasn’t only theoretical. Hitler repeatedly praised Marx privately, stating he had “learned a great deal from Marxism.” The trouble with the Weimar Republic, he said, was that its politicians “had never even read Marx.” He also stated his differences with communists were that they were intellectual types passing out pamphlets, whereas “I have put into practice what these peddlers and pen pushers have timidly begun.”

It wasn’t just privately that Hitler’s fealty for Marx surfaced. In “Mein Kampf,” he states that without his racial insights National Socialism “would really do nothing more than compete with Marxism on its own ground.” Nor did Hitler eschew this sentiment once reaching power. As late as 1941, with the war in bloom, he stated “basically National Socialism and Marxism are the same” in a speech published by the Royal Institute of International Affairs.

Nazi propaganda minister and resident intellectual Joseph Goebbels wrote in his diary that the Nazis would install “real socialism” after Russia’s defeat in the East. And Hitler favorite Albert Speer, the Nazi armaments minister whose memoir became an international bestseller, wrote that Hitler viewed Joseph Stalin as a kindred spirit, ensuring his prisoner of war son received good treatment, and even talked of keeping Stalin in power in a puppet government after Germany’s eventual triumph. His views on Great Britain’s Winston Churchill and the United States’s Franklin Delano Roosevelt were decidedly less kind.

Nazi and Communist Hatred of Each Other Was Brotherly
Despite this, there’s a persistent claim that Nazis and communists hated each other, and mention that the Nazis persecuted socialists and oppressed trade unions. These things are true, but prove little. The camps’ hatred stemmed from familiarity. It was internecine, the nastiest kind.

The Nazis and communists were not only in a struggle for street-war supremacy, but also recruits. These recruits were easily turned, because both sides were fighting for the same men. Hayek recalls

 

[2aguy]

He killed Hispanics too, you fucking idiot. Ideology isn’t tied to race. I’m telling you what he posted. There’s evidence for that. Your bullshit about him hating non-Hispanics is completely made up.

3.....out of the larger group of asians and he even killed a white guy.......

Why did he kill the white guy? If he is a white supremacist....you dumb ass...

 

[XponentialChaos]

Here is a look at actual nazis....so "neo-nazis," will have the same beliefs........

You idiots focus on their racism because if you don't, then their other beliefs will tie them directly to the democrat party....

Read A Pile Of Top Nazis Talking About How They Love Leftist Marxism

The Nazis were leftists. This statement is blasphemy to the academic-media complex, since everyone knows the Nazis were degenerate right-wingers fueled by toxic capitalism and racism. But evidence Adolf Hitler’s gang were men of the left, while debatable, is compelling.
The dispute on Nazi origins resurfaced through the confluence of brawling alt-right and antifa fringe movements and recent alternative histories by Dinesh D’Souza and others. The vitriol and lack of candor it produces from supposedly fact-driven academics and media is disturbing, if unsurprising. They stifle dissent on touchy subjects to maintain their narrative and enforce cultural hegemony.

However uncomfortable to opinion shapers, alternative views of the Third Reich exist and were written by the finest minds of their time. Opinions from the period perhaps carry more weight because they are unburdened by the aftermath of the uniquely heinous Nazi crimes.
------

Also, Adolf Hitler Loved Karl Marx
It wasn’t only theoretical. Hitler repeatedly praised Marx privately, stating he had “learned a great deal from Marxism.” The trouble with the Weimar Republic, he said, was that its politicians “had never even read Marx.” He also stated his differences with communists were that they were intellectual types passing out pamphlets, whereas “I have put into practice what these peddlers and pen pushers have timidly begun.”

It wasn’t just privately that Hitler’s fealty for Marx surfaced. In “Mein Kampf,” he states that without his racial insights National Socialism “would really do nothing more than compete with Marxism on its own ground.” Nor did Hitler eschew this sentiment once reaching power. As late as 1941, with the war in bloom, he stated “basically National Socialism and Marxism are the same” in a speech published by the Royal Institute of International Affairs.

Nazi propaganda minister and resident intellectual Joseph Goebbels wrote in his diary that the Nazis would install “real socialism” after Russia’s defeat in the East. And Hitler favorite Albert Speer, the Nazi armaments minister whose memoir became an international bestseller, wrote that Hitler viewed Joseph Stalin as a kindred spirit, ensuring his prisoner of war son received good treatment, and even talked of keeping Stalin in power in a puppet government after Germany’s eventual triumph. His views on Great Britain’s Winston Churchill and the United States’s Franklin Delano Roosevelt were decidedly less kind.

Nazi and Communist Hatred of Each Other Was Brotherly
Despite this, there’s a persistent claim that Nazis and communists hated each other, and mention that the Nazis persecuted socialists and oppressed trade unions. These things are true, but prove little. The camps’ hatred stemmed from familiarity. It was internecine, the nastiest kind.

The Nazis and communists were not only in a struggle for street-war supremacy, but also recruits. These recruits were easily turned, because both sides were fighting for the same men. Hayek recalls

I asked you for a link showing that Unite the Right was ran by leftists. Try again, retard. You suck at this.

 

[2aguy]

He killed Hispanics too, you fucking idiot. Ideology isn’t tied to race. I’m telling you what he posted. There’s evidence for that. Your bullshit about him hating non-Hispanics is completely made up.

Nope.......he is hispanic......you are the dope who swallowed the democrat party line that he was a white supremacist....a lie they made up before they knew he was hispanic...now they are sticking to it, no matter that he is...you know, a hispanic....

Do you believe that George Zimmerman is a 'white" hispanic too?

 

[2aguy]

I asked you for a link showing that Unite the Right was ran by leftists. Try again, retard. You suck at this.

They are neo-nazis....they beieve what the nazis believed...all of it...not just the racism......

You guys only mention their racism....because if anyone looks deeper, they see the democrat party platform....

Nazism is Socialism -- F A Hayek, et al

One of the main reasons why the socialist character of National Socialism has been quite generally unrecognized, is, no doubt, its alliance with the nationalist groups which represent the great industries and the great landowners. But this merely proves that these groups too -as they have since learnt to their bitter disappointment -have, at least partly, been mistaken as to the nature of the movement. But only partly because -and this is the most characteristic feature of modern Germany – many capitalists are themselves strongly influenced by socialistic ideas, and have not sufficient belief in capitalism to defend it with a clear conscience. But, in spite of this, the German entrepreneur class have manifested almost incredible short-sightedness in allying themselves with a move movement of whose strong anti-capitalistic tendencies there should never have been any doubt.

A careful observer must always have been aware that the opposition of the Nazis to the established socialist parties, which gained them the sympathy of the entrepreneur, was only to a very small extend directed against their economic policy. What the Nazis mainly objected to was their internationalism and all the aspects of their cultural programme which were still influenced by liberal ideas. But the accusations against the social-democrats and the communists which were most effective in their propaganda were not so much directed against their programme as against their supposed practice -their corruption and nepotism, and even their alleged alliance with “the golden International of Jewish Capitalism.”

It would, indeed, hardly have been possible for the Nationalists to advance fundamental objections to the economic policy of the other socialist parties when their own published programme differed from these only in that its socialism was much cruder and less rational. The famous 25 points drawn up by Herr Feder,[2] one of Hitler’s early allies, repeatedly endorsed by Hitler and recognized by the by-laws of the National-Socialist party as the immutable basis of all its actions, which together with an extensive commentary is circulating throughout Germany in many hundreds of thousands of copies, is full of ideas resembling those of the early socialists. But the dominant feature is a fierce hatred of anything capitalistic -individualistic profit seeking, large scale enterprise, banks, joint-stock companies, department stores, “international finance and loan capital,” the system of “interest slavery” in general; the abolition of these is described as the “[indecipherable] of the programme, around which everything else turns.” It was to this programme that the masses of the German people, who were already completely under the influence of collectivist ideas, responded so enthusiastically.

That this violent anti-capitalistic attack is genuine – and not a mere piece of propaganda – becomes as clear from the personal history of the intellectual leaders of the movement as from the general milieu from which it springs. It is not even denied that man of the young men who today play a prominent part in it have previously been communists or socialists. And to any observer of the literary tendencies which made the Germans intelligentsia ready to join the ranks of the new party, it must be clear that the common characteristic of all the politically influential writers – in many cases free from definite party affiliations – was their anti-liberal and anti-capitalist trend. Groups like that formed around the review “Die Tat” have made the phrase “the end of capitalism” an accepted dogma to most young Germans.[3]

And more...

The Myth of "Nazi Capitalism" | Chris Calton

German socialism, as Mises defines it, differs from what he called “socialism of the Russian pattern” in that “it, seemingly and nominally, maintains private ownership of the means of production, entrepreneurship, and market exchange.” However, this is only a superficial system of private ownership because through a complete system of economic intervention and control, the entrepreneurial function of the property owners is completely controlled by the State. By this, Mises means that shop owners do not speculate about future events for the purpose of allocating resources in the pursuit of profits. Just like in the Soviet Union, this entrepreneurial speculation and resource allocation is done by a single entity, the State, and economic calculation is thus impossible.

“In Nazi Germany,” Mises tells us, the property owners “were called shop managers or Betriebsführer. The government tells these seeming entrepreneurs what and how to produce, at what prices and from whom to buy, at what prices and to whom to sell. The government decrees at what wages labourers should work, and to whom and under what terms the capitalists should entrust their funds. Market exchange is but a sham. As all prices, wages and interest rates are fixed by the authority, they are prices, wages and interest rates in appearance only; in fact they are merely quantitative terms in the authoritarian orders determining each citizen’s income, consumption and standard of living. The authority, not the consumers, directs production. The central board of production management is supreme; all citizens are nothing else but civil servants. This is socialism with the outward appearance of capitalism. Some labels of the capitalistic market economy are retained, but they signify here something entirely different from what they mean in the market economy.”
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Nazis Were Not Marxists, but They Were Socialists | Jörg Guido Hülsmann

 

[XponentialChaos]

3.....out of the larger group of asians and he even killed a white guy.......

Why did he kill the white guy? If he is a white supremacist....you dumb ass...

Yea, 3 out of his 8 victims were Hispanic. Where the fuck are you getting this nonsense about him hating non-Hispanics?

How am I supposed to know why he killed who he killed? You’re the one arguing that he hates non-Hispanics because he killed non-Hispanics even though he also killed Hispanics. All while ignoring his own fucking words. Retarded reasoning.

 

[Esdraelon]

Well regardless of what else he was, it is extremely disturbing and very sad that an 18yo kid did this. A kid...

I think the youth today are lucky when they aren't suicidally depressed by that age. The world has literally gone crazy in the last 6 years or so. It only gets worse from here because the craziness is being manufactured for a purpose.

 

[XponentialChaos]

They are neo-nazis....they beieve what the nazis believed...all of it...not just the racism......

You guys only mention their racism....because if anyone looks deeper, they see the democrat party platform....

Nazism is Socialism -- F A Hayek, et al

One of the main reasons why the socialist character of National Socialism has been quite generally unrecognized, is, no doubt, its alliance with the nationalist groups which represent the great industries and the great landowners. But this merely proves that these groups too -as they have since learnt to their bitter disappointment -have, at least partly, been mistaken as to the nature of the movement. But only partly because -and this is the most characteristic feature of modern Germany – many capitalists are themselves strongly influenced by socialistic ideas, and have not sufficient belief in capitalism to defend it with a clear conscience. But, in spite of this, the German entrepreneur class have manifested almost incredible short-sightedness in allying themselves with a move movement of whose strong anti-capitalistic tendencies there should never have been any doubt.

A careful observer must always have been aware that the opposition of the Nazis to the established socialist parties, which gained them the sympathy of the entrepreneur, was only to a very small extend directed against their economic policy. What the Nazis mainly objected to was their internationalism and all the aspects of their cultural programme which were still influenced by liberal ideas. But the accusations against the social-democrats and the communists which were most effective in their propaganda were not so much directed against their programme as against their supposed practice -their corruption and nepotism, and even their alleged alliance with “the golden International of Jewish Capitalism.”

It would, indeed, hardly have been possible for the Nationalists to advance fundamental objections to the economic policy of the other socialist parties when their own published programme differed from these only in that its socialism was much cruder and less rational. The famous 25 points drawn up by Herr Feder,[2] one of Hitler’s early allies, repeatedly endorsed by Hitler and recognized by the by-laws of the National-Socialist party as the immutable basis of all its actions, which together with an extensive commentary is circulating throughout Germany in many hundreds of thousands of copies, is full of ideas resembling those of the early socialists. But the dominant feature is a fierce hatred of anything capitalistic -individualistic profit seeking, large scale enterprise, banks, joint-stock companies, department stores, “international finance and loan capital,” the system of “interest slavery” in general; the abolition of these is described as the “[indecipherable] of the programme, around which everything else turns.” It was to this programme that the masses of the German people, who were already completely under the influence of collectivist ideas, responded so enthusiastically.

That this violent anti-capitalistic attack is genuine – and not a mere piece of propaganda – becomes as clear from the personal history of the intellectual leaders of the movement as from the general milieu from which it springs. It is not even denied that man of the young men who today play a prominent part in it have previously been communists or socialists. And to any observer of the literary tendencies which made the Germans intelligentsia ready to join the ranks of the new party, it must be clear that the common characteristic of all the politically influential writers – in many cases free from definite party affiliations – was their anti-liberal and anti-capitalist trend. Groups like that formed around the review “Die Tat” have made the phrase “the end of capitalism” an accepted dogma to most young Germans.[3]

And more...

The Myth of "Nazi Capitalism" | Chris Calton

German socialism, as Mises defines it, differs from what he called “socialism of the Russian pattern” in that “it, seemingly and nominally, maintains private ownership of the means of production, entrepreneurship, and market exchange.” However, this is only a superficial system of private ownership because through a complete system of economic intervention and control, the entrepreneurial function of the property owners is completely controlled by the State. By this, Mises means that shop owners do not speculate about future events for the purpose of allocating resources in the pursuit of profits. Just like in the Soviet Union, this entrepreneurial speculation and resource allocation is done by a single entity, the State, and economic calculation is thus impossible.

“In Nazi Germany,” Mises tells us, the property owners “were called shop managers or Betriebsführer. The government tells these seeming entrepreneurs what and how to produce, at what prices and from whom to buy, at what prices and to whom to sell. The government decrees at what wages labourers should work, and to whom and under what terms the capitalists should entrust their funds. Market exchange is but a sham. As all prices, wages and interest rates are fixed by the authority, they are prices, wages and interest rates in appearance only; in fact they are merely quantitative terms in the authoritarian orders determining each citizen’s income, consumption and standard of living. The authority, not the consumers, directs production. The central board of production management is supreme; all citizens are nothing else but civil servants. This is socialism with the outward appearance of capitalism. Some labels of the capitalistic market economy are retained, but they signify here something entirely different from what they mean in the market economy.”
======

Nazis Were Not Marxists, but They Were Socialists | Jörg Guido Hülsmann

Big wall of blue text. Not a single thing about Unite the Right. Weird. It’s almost like you can’t answer a direct question without resorting to an unrelated copy/paste.

 

[2aguy]

Yea, 3 out of his 8 victims were Hispanic. Where the fuck are you getting this nonsense about him hating non-Hispanics?

How am I supposed to know why he killed who he killed? You’re the one arguing that he hates non-Hispanics because he killed non-Hispanics even though he also killed Hispanics. All while ignoring his own fucking words. Retarded reasoning.

He murdered a white guy.....where the fuck do you get to call him a white supremacist when he murders a white guy?

 

[XponentialChaos]

Nope.......he is hispanic......you are the dope who swallowed the democrat party line that he was a white supremacist....

I’m just looking at the evidence.

Did he or did he not post that he was on the right?

Did he or did he not post that we need to make America white again?

Did he or did he not seem to adore Nazis and Hitler?

I’m going by the facts. Why are you ignoring this?

 

[2aguy]

Big wall of blue text. Not a single thing about Unite the Right. Weird. It’s almost like you can’t answer a direct question without resorting to an unrelated copy/paste.

The quotes are about the economic beliefs of the actual nazis....which means they are the policies of the "neo-nazis."

The reason you assholes only focus on their racism is it hides their beliefs about government, and the constitution....showing how close they are to the democrat party....

 

[XponentialChaos]

He murdered a white guy.....where the fuck do you get to call him a white supremacist when he murders a white guy?

BECAUSE OF WHAT HE POSTED YOU FUCKING IDIOT.

I have no idea why he killed who he killed.

You claim that he can’t be a white supremacist because he killed a white guy. Yet you also argue that he hates non-Hispanics despite the fact that he killed 3 Hispanics.

Explain that one you fucking idiot.

 

[2aguy]

I’m just looking at the evidence.

Did he or did he not post that he was on the right?

Did he or did he not post that we need to make America white again?

Did he or did he not seem to adore Nazis and Hitler?

I’m going by the facts. Why are you ignoring this?

Is he or is he not hispanic?

If he is hispanic, he cannot be a white supremacist.

Again...

How many asians are white suprmacists?

How many blacks are white supremacists?

Once you can tell us that, then you can continue to sell us the joke that he is a hispanic white supremacist.

Even if he loved him some hitler, that doesn't make him a white supremacist........it makes him a hispanic national socialist......racism was just one factor in German national socialism...the Italian fascists were not particularly racist, but they shared the economic and government beliefs of the German socialists......

He was likely a Jew hater too....just like the democrat party leadership today...just ask AOC.......her anti-semitism...does that make her a "white" supremacist like this guy too?