FBI Justification for Mar A Lago invasion: Moving trucks spotted at MAL on Jan 18, 2021.

[Coyote]

Oh, so you just lied again. You don't know how many sentences in the affidavit dealt with each witness.

Make something else up, Troll.

Neither do you . Given entire paragraphs are redacted, I doubt we are looking at one sentence. Grasping at straws to pop up your rickety OP.

 

[Coyote]

Ah, so this was nothing more than a political stunt....Shame on you for supporting it.

How is getting back classified documents Trump is keeping illegally and refuses to return, a “political stunt”?

 

[Nostra]

Neither do you . Given entire paragraphs are redacted, I doubt we are looking at one sentence. Grasping at straws to pop up your rickety OP.

I made no claim about how many sentences were dedicated to anything, unlike you, liar.

 

[Nostra]

How is getting back classified documents Trump is keeping illegally and refuses to return, a “political stunt”?

You don't know there were classified docs there, you don't know if anything was there illegally, and you don't know if Trump refused to return anything.

The TRIFECTA of lies with that post, liar.

 

[mamooth]

Check it out. Pages and pages of Trump cult losers telling desperate lies. The normal people are all enjoying the show.

What idiot conspiracy will the Trumptards push next?

Will it contradict their previous idiot conspiracy theory?

Will they care?

Do they understand that the idiot conspiracies have no effect on the legal system, and that their masters only push the conspiracies to keep the Trump cult hysterical and violent?

Everyone else understands that. It's hilarious that they don't.

 

[Marener]

Ah, so this was nothing more than a political stunt....Shame on you for supporting it.

Not at all. Recovering those documents was important to preserving national security.

 

[j-mac]

How is getting back classified documents Trump is keeping illegally and refuses to return, a “political stunt”?

He wasn't refusing to return shit....quit lying....This was a political stunt to effect elections....

 

[j-mac]

Not at all. Recovering those documents was important to preserving national security.

Apparently that only matters when a Republican is the target.

 

[Marener]

Apparently that only matters when a Republican is the target.

What do you mean?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

No, he wasn't, that is the problem.

In response to the statement Trump was President when he declassified the info/

 

[j-mac]

What do you mean?

 

[Marener]

They investigated Clinton and didn’t charge her. Same exact thing as I think will happen with Trump. They investigate him and don’t charge him.

 

[j-mac]

They investigated Clinton and didn’t charge her. Same exact thing as I think will happen with Trump. They investigate him and don’t charge him.

Did you believe Hillary Clinton was unfairly persecuted by the right?

 

[Marener]

Did you believe Hillary Clinton was unfairly persecuted by the right?

The investigation was necessary and proper.

 

[Flopper]

The smoking gun of all smoking guns, folks. At the exact time Trump was moving from the WH to MAL there were moving trucks spotted at MAL. If that isn't ironclad proof of a crime I don't know what is.

This tells us all we need to know about just how weak their case is. Oh, and how much of it is redacted.....95%?

FBI Releases Nearly Entirely Redacted Affidavit For Trump Raid

Nearly the entire affidavit released was redacted, with few lines offering insight into the FBI's unprecedented raid of a former president.

thefederalist.com

I suggest you the read the documents

The smoke from the gun started in Feb. 2021 just weeks after Trump left office. The NARA noticed that there were just a few boxes of presidential records when there should have been dozens of boxes and there were no boxes of classified documents. This resulted in a call to Mar A Lago. After several calls proved fruitless, the director sent a letter to Trump in May. There were calls from Trump and others that assured the NARA that they were aware of problem and working on it. In late fall there was still no shipments of documents. This prompted the director to send a letter threating to bring in the FBI if there was no action. Several months later in Jan. 2022, 30 boxes arrived.

The NARA began going through the boxes received and found 184 classified documents in 15 of boxes. The remaining boxes contained just presidential records. Many of the records were damaged, redacted, or destroyed. As the agency researched what they were sent, they found many missing presidential documents and a number of missing classified documents.

The DOJ was notified by NARA that there were many missing presidential records and classified documents. This prompted the DOJ to open an investigation in April 2022.

In the Spring of 2022, investigators from the Justice Department and FBI visited Mar-a-Lago to get more information about classified materials taken to Florida. Federal officials also served a subpoena for some documents believed to be at the estate. However, these documents not were produced.

Investigation by the DOJ confirmed via interviews that were more classified documents at Mar A Lago. However in June a Trump lawyer send a letter saying that there were no more classified documents stored at Mar A Logo. Further investigation in July confirmed that there were.

In August the court approves the search warrant. The results of the search yielded a number of boxes of president records and 6 boxes containing Top Secret, Top Secret-SCI, Secret, and Confidential documents.

The total number documents recovered by the NARA and DOJ included 184 classified documents plus the number recovered in the raid which is likely to bring the number to over 300. At least 3 dozen boxes of presidential documents were recovered. All of these documents are property of US government and were being held illegally at Mar A Lago. An FBI agent commented that the classified documents recovered in the search were not secured as required by the government.

 

[Flopper]

They investigated Clinton and didn’t charge her. Same exact thing as I think will happen with Trump. They investigate him and don’t charge him.

That is certainly a possibility. However, there are big differences in the seriousness of possible charges, intent, and the degree of obstruction. Had Clinton been charged, it would have been for mishandling classified documents and it would end up being a misdemeanor. Trump charges are most likely going be at least one felony and probably more. However, it may be difficult to convince a jury that Trump is guilty of espionage. Obstruction would be easy to prove but obstruction could turn out to be a misdemeanor as could damaging goverment records.

The investigation is young so who knows what will turn up.

 

[schmidlap]

It was NOT JAMES COMEYS JOB to recommend or not recommend prosecution!!!!! Why do you fucking liberals not get that!??!?!? He was the FBI director. Nothing more.

She absolutely should have been prosecuted. He said because she didn't have "intent." The problem is, gross negligence doesn't require intent.

Here’s why James Comey let Hillary Clinton off the hook

Why did he do it?

www.sandiegouniontribune.com

So, reminisce about Mr Comey and all who concurred with him with low regard if that is your wont.

Despite the febrile hysterics and wild paranoidal ravings of diehard Trumpthumpers (including personal threats to an Attorney General, a federal judge, and public servants) classified documents of national security import were taken from the White House and, rather than be safeguarded by the National Archives and Records Administration as the law demands, were stashed in an unauthorized storeroom of a hoity-toity playground for fat cat revelers.

After reasonable requests by the proper government entities to have the documents returned were defied and met with lies, the government retrieved them, including some with the highest levels of classification

The violation of the nation's integrity bears close scrutiny. Despite the hysterical protestations of crazy people, private citizens are not allowed to abscond with or hoard such sensitive materials, no matter how consuming their whim and delusion that they are above the law.

No one is.

 

[schmidlap]

That is certainly a possibility. However, there are big differences in the seriousness of possible charges, intent, and the degree of obstruction. Had Clinton been charged, it would have been for mishandling classified documents and it would end up being a misdemeanor. Trump charges are most likely going be at least one felony and probably more. However, it may be difficult to convince a jury that Trump is guilty of espionage. Obstruction would be easy to prove but obstruction could turn out to be a misdemeanor as could damaging government records.

The investigation is young so who knows what will turn up.

The timeworn Clinton matter is being dredged up and spun at this time for one, desperate, diversionary purpose.

It was apparently preferred to Warren Harding's Teapot Dome scandal and other such historical remembrances.

The failure to contrive equivalency aside, is it the desperadoes' wish to evoke what they perceive as a bygone miscarriage of justice to promote another miscarriage of justice?

Flaccid reasoning there.

"Oh, yeah! Well, what about...???"
is not a credible legal defense.​

 

[schmidlap]

Did you believe Hillary Clinton was unfairly persecuted by the right?

Desperate attempt at diversion to days of yore fail miserably.

THE TRUMP DEFENSE

...................................."I took them, so they're MINE!"​

 

[Nostra]

I suggest you the read the documents

The smoke from the gun started in Feb. 2021 just weeks after Trump left office. The NARA noticed that there were just a few boxes of presidential records when there should have been dozens of boxes and there were no boxes of classified documents. This resulted in a call to Mar A Lago. After several calls proved fruitless, the director sent a letter to Trump in May. There were calls from Trump and others that assured the NARA that they were aware of problem and working on it. In late fall there was still no shipments of documents. This prompted the director to send a letter threating to bring in the FBI if there was no action. Several months later in Jan. 2022, 30 boxes arrived.

The NARA began going through the boxes received and found 184 classified documents in 15 of boxes. The remaining boxes contained just presidential records. Many of the records were damaged, redacted, or destroyed. As the agency researched what they were sent, they found many missing presidential documents and a number of missing classified documents.

The DOJ was notified by NARA that there were many missing presidential records and classified documents. This prompted the DOJ to open an investigation in April 2022.

In the Spring of 2022, investigators from the Justice Department and FBI visited Mar-a-Lago to get more information about classified materials taken to Florida. Federal officials also served a subpoena for some documents believed to be at the estate. However, these documents not were produced.

Investigation by the DOJ confirmed via interviews that were more classified documents at Mar A Lago. However in June a Trump lawyer send a letter saying that there were no more classified documents stored at Mar A Logo. Further investigation in July confirmed that there were.

In August the court approves the search warrant. The results of the search yielded a number of boxes of president records and 6 boxes containing Top Secret, Top Secret-SCI, Secret, and Confidential documents.

The total number documents recovered by the NARA and DOJ included 184 classified documents plus the number recovered in the raid which is likely to bring the number to over 300. At least 3 dozen boxes of presidential documents were recovered. All of these documents are property of US government and were being held illegally at Mar A Lago. An FBI agent commented that the classified documents recovered in the search were not secured as required by the government.

You make all that up yourself?