FBI stops militia plot to kidnap Gretchen Whitmer

[jbrownson0831]

Whitmer immediately blamed the plot on President Trump telling the Proud Boys to “stand back and stand by.”

This is who she is, and why she is despised. Like all Democrats shes more interested in causing trouble for the president than her own safety. Shes
Pelosi just a few decades younger. This state made a huge mistake putting her in office as did NY, and CA

She's not despised by anyone but you right wingers. Nation wide you've tried to use her as a punching bag but here in Michigan, other than right wingers, no one hates her.

All they are doing is guaranteeing that she will be reelected.

Most of the people in Michigan like her.

The other thing they are doing, driving sane and normal people from the Republican Party. If there are any left.

All they are doing is further destroying the republican party.

If the people like Ms. Whitmer's record of maintaining one of the highest Coronavirus death rates in the country, in spite having the state locked down tight, good for them.

Michigan, which ranked third nationally for confirmed cases in early April, ranked 11th early Sunday afternoon.Jun 28, 2020
Michigan drops out of top 10 states for confirmed COVID-19 ..

And is still among the leaders for MORTALITY RATE at 4.9%. Who cares what the case count is, most people don't have any symptoms.

Adn masks don't work right?

If you are sick they work...they make sure you get sicker.

You can get sicker by wearing a mask? That's funny shit.

Please stop speading lies. I know you cons can't help it but

5 Myths About Coronavirus and Face Masks, Debunked

By wearing a homemade cloth face mask, you can help protect others in your family and community. A doctor sets the record straight on some common misconceptions about face masks.

health.clevelandclinic.org

And you libbers always post fake media as your backup.

Why dont you point out the fakeness of what I posted. debunk my shit.

Because I get tired of looking up facts for you libbers since you hate them so much. You can google it yourself and see the microbiology cultures...remember microbiology??

 

[jbrownson0831]

It's not just extreme right wingers. We aren't exactly living in relaxed, civil times in the battle of America vs China.

Remember this, China has the upper hand. The West has little mass support from the communists.

Actually the problem is that both sides believe the propaganda put out by their own side. If you honestly believe Trump is a Fascist. Truly believe that the Republicans are going full Fascist. Then nothing that you do is extreme in opposing them. If you honestly believe that the Communists or Socialist forces are going to take over. There is nothing worse than losing. Anything you do is justified in stopping them.

It is to the minds of the believers like having an opportunity to stop Hitler or Stalin before they commit the horrors we all know about from history. Anything is preferable to that. And that attitude has led humanity down the path of doom more than once. I call it learning the wrong lesson in history.

It is why I am not voting this year. Both sides are wrong. Both sides will lead us to ruination. Too many years of this propaganda has poisoned the nations soul.

Except there is NOTHING Trump has said or done that leaves anyone to believe he is in any way a "nazi fascist." NOTHING.

Train stations named after him in Israel along with a community in Israel. Trump has denounced WHITE SUPREMACISTS. At least 19 documented times and the left ignores IT ALL.



However it is 100 percent true that democrats are directed by cultural marxists and there is more than enough evidence that proves it conclusively.

They all praise blm and their founder flat out says they are marxists.





That is a big gigantic fucking difference.

Trump blows so many dog whistles you'd have to be dumb to believe he's not supporting the KKK



Trump sounds a lot like David Duke. And Trump supporters sound a lot like Duke supporters.

Why would he support a Democrat organization?

KKK votes Republican. You're talking about the 1950's.

So what its your organization.

 

[22lcidw]

Biden did the right thing and showed leadership.

Trump is a crazy asshole. *Fact*

For 50 years Biden has shown everything but leadership

He has been a leader in the Senate and VP, you are a blind brainwashed fool.

I am neither blind nor brainwashed, hypocrite.

Then you are really racist or really rich and lying to us.

Hah, pulling the race card again!!...

The only reasons for someone who isn't a billionaire to support Donald Trump are (a) the are too stupid to fact check or realize they've been conned; or (b) they like his policies - all of which are racist, which is why he's lost the black and Hispanic vote except for Cubans, or misogynistic, which is why he's lost the women's vote, or they get people killed, which is why he is losing the elderly vote and the votes of those who love and care for them.

In the choice between stupid, racist, misogynist, or just like killing old people, please tell us why you're voting for Trump.

Economy is off the list - he crashed, it. Immigration is also off the list. There will be war crimes trials over his administration policy there, when he's gone.

And remember his economy wasn't that great. Certainly his 2018 tax cuts didn't produce what we were promised. In 2019 he only had 2.3% growth.

He took over an already good economy. Unemployment was already low. Republcans didn't believe the numbers when Obama was president. Obama created more jobs than Trump did. And when the stock market was up in 2015 Republicans said look at the debt. Well look at the debt Trump's tax breaks created.

The fact my brother makes over $500,000 a year and is not voting for Trump says a lot. He said it took him about 20 minutes to decide but he can't take another 4 years of Trump. Then he said don't tell all our Republican friends.

This was unsolicited so he didn't lie to me. He didn't have to tell me anything. And I stopped years ago trying to convince him the GOP sucks.

And if Trump loses it's his own fault. Besides how he handled the coronavirus he played divisive politics for the entire 4 years. Also all the lies big and small. That turns everyone except for deplorable Trump supporters off. I'm glad he did it because if he didn't he would have easily won a second term.

Waah waah waah always crying, more whiny America hating libber propaganda.

I'm happy I think Biden is going to win now. My brother didn't vote for Trump again and I know 13 guys who won't be voting for Trump next month. LOL.

Ooooh 13 guys......lol...and how do you know who they are going to vote for?

They tried to kidnap and kill our Democratic governor. You stupid or what?

If it makes you feel better, black guys won't follow her crap either.

 

[jbrownson0831]

Right wingers are getting crazier by the minute. A right wing militia plotted to kidnap the governor of Michigan.
The FBI stopped them.

Plans to kidnap Whitmer, overthrow government spoiled, officials say

The FBI says it thwarted what it described as a plot to violently overthrow the government and kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer

amp.detroitnews.com

Why would they want to kidnap her? I couldn't stand to be around that dumb bitch for 5 minutes and listen to her yap run.

Plus she would only get the spare tire dirty in the trunk.

 

[Bush92]

It's not just extreme right wingers. We aren't exactly living in relaxed, civil times in the battle of America vs China.

Remember this, China has the upper hand. The West has little mass support from the communists.

Actually the problem is that both sides believe the propaganda put out by their own side. If you honestly believe Trump is a Fascist. Truly believe that the Republicans are going full Fascist. Then nothing that you do is extreme in opposing them. If you honestly believe that the Communists or Socialist forces are going to take over. There is nothing worse than losing. Anything you do is justified in stopping them.

It is to the minds of the believers like having an opportunity to stop Hitler or Stalin before they commit the horrors we all know about from history. Anything is preferable to that. And that attitude has led humanity down the path of doom more than once. I call it learning the wrong lesson in history.

It is why I am not voting this year. Both sides are wrong. Both sides will lead us to ruination. Too many years of this propaganda has poisoned the nations soul.

Except there is NOTHING Trump has said or done that leaves anyone to believe he is in any way a "nazi fascist." NOTHING.

Train stations named after him in Israel along with a community in Israel. Trump has denounced WHITE SUPREMACISTS. At least 19 documented times and the left ignores IT ALL.



However it is 100 percent true that democrats are directed by cultural marxists and there is more than enough evidence that proves it conclusively.

They all praise blm and their founder flat out says they are marxists.





That is a big gigantic fucking difference.

Being a White Nationalist and neo fascist one must infer from your defense of Dumb Donald that you are credible, and anything your dear leader says or tweets is all about himself. He's toss you under the bus if you so much as forget to "god bless you' when he sneezed.

So being black power racists like BLM and a Marxist like both BLM and Antifa is alright by you? Burning, looting and murder are also alright by you?

 

[jbrownson0831]

It's not just extreme right wingers. We aren't exactly living in relaxed, civil times in the battle of America vs China.

Remember this, China has the upper hand. The West has little mass support from the communists.

Actually the problem is that both sides believe the propaganda put out by their own side. If you honestly believe Trump is a Fascist. Truly believe that the Republicans are going full Fascist. Then nothing that you do is extreme in opposing them. If you honestly believe that the Communists or Socialist forces are going to take over. There is nothing worse than losing. Anything you do is justified in stopping them.

It is to the minds of the believers like having an opportunity to stop Hitler or Stalin before they commit the horrors we all know about from history. Anything is preferable to that. And that attitude has led humanity down the path of doom more than once. I call it learning the wrong lesson in history.

It is why I am not voting this year. Both sides are wrong. Both sides will lead us to ruination. Too many years of this propaganda has poisoned the nations soul.

Except there is NOTHING Trump has said or done that leaves anyone to believe he is in any way a "nazi fascist." NOTHING.

Train stations named after him in Israel along with a community in Israel. Trump has denounced WHITE SUPREMACISTS. At least 19 documented times and the left ignores IT ALL.



However it is 100 percent true that democrats are directed by cultural marxists and there is more than enough evidence that proves it conclusively.

They all praise blm and their founder flat out says they are marxists.





That is a big gigantic fucking difference.

Being a White Nationalist and neo fascist one must infer from your defense of Dumb Donald that you are not credible; anything your dear leader says or tweets is all about himself. He's toss you under the bus if you so much as forget to "god bless you' when he sneezed. Open you eyes, close your mind to conspiracy stories (they don't qualify for a theory) and see reality. Dumb Donald is Mentally Ill.

Waah waah waah and boo hoo all about the President then you trot out Dementia Joe and expect anyone to wipe your nose??

 

[sealybobo]

Biden did the right thing and showed leadership.

Trump is a crazy asshole. *Fact*

For 50 years Biden has shown everything but leadership

He has been a leader in the Senate and VP, you are a blind brainwashed fool.

I am neither blind nor brainwashed, hypocrite.

Then you are really racist or really rich and lying to us.

Hah, pulling the race card again!!...

The only reasons for someone who isn't a billionaire to support Donald Trump are (a) the are too stupid to fact check or realize they've been conned; or (b) they like his policies - all of which are racist, which is why he's lost the black and Hispanic vote except for Cubans, or misogynistic, which is why he's lost the women's vote, or they get people killed, which is why he is losing the elderly vote and the votes of those who love and care for them.

In the choice between stupid, racist, misogynist, or just like killing old people, please tell us why you're voting for Trump.

Economy is off the list - he crashed, it. Immigration is also off the list. There will be war crimes trials over his administration policy there, when he's gone.

And remember his economy wasn't that great. Certainly his 2018 tax cuts didn't produce what we were promised. In 2019 he only had 2.3% growth.

He took over an already good economy. Unemployment was already low. Republcans didn't believe the numbers when Obama was president. Obama created more jobs than Trump did. And when the stock market was up in 2015 Republicans said look at the debt. Well look at the debt Trump's tax breaks created.

The fact my brother makes over $500,000 a year and is not voting for Trump says a lot. He said it took him about 20 minutes to decide but he can't take another 4 years of Trump. Then he said don't tell all our Republican friends.

This was unsolicited so he didn't lie to me. He didn't have to tell me anything. And I stopped years ago trying to convince him the GOP sucks.

And if Trump loses it's his own fault. Besides how he handled the coronavirus he played divisive politics for the entire 4 years. Also all the lies big and small. That turns everyone except for deplorable Trump supporters off. I'm glad he did it because if he didn't he would have easily won a second term.

Waah waah waah always crying, more whiny America hating libber propaganda.

I'm happy I think Biden is going to win now. My brother didn't vote for Trump again and I know 13 guys who won't be voting for Trump next month. LOL.

Ooooh 13 guys......lol...and how do you know who they are going to vote for?

Man In Militia Plot To Kidnap Michigan Governor Shared Stage With Extremist Sheriff
Sheriff Dar Leaf stood with the militiaman at an anti-lockdown rally. He’s part of the “constitutional sheriffs” movement, a close ally of America’s far-right paramilitaries.


Not extremist left. Extremist right.

“Wolverine Watchmen”

What Leaf did not address in his Fox 17 interview, however, is his membership in the right-wing extremist “constitutional sheriffs” movement — a close ally of America’s armed militias — that has gained a concerning momentum during the era of President Donald Trump.

Leaf, according to a database created by the social justice think tank Political Research Associates, attended the 2019 conference of the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association.

Like Trump said, no police endorse Biden. They all endorse Trump.

Constitutional sheriffs are part of the broader antigovernment “patriot” movement in the U.S., which is animated by a multitude of conspiracy theories about immigrants, Muslims, Jews, gun control measures, and a coming “New World Order.”


One of the goals of these sheriffs, Cooper said, is to legitimize militia groups and turn them into “sheriff’s posses” who can be enlisted to patrol their respective city’s streets.
The danger of law enforcement lending credibility to such groups has come into clear focus over the last four years, as militias have been implicated in violent plots targeting Muslims, leftist and anti-racist protesters, and most recently, the governor of Michigan.
Such groups have also enjoyed the endorsement and encouragement of the Trump administration, which shares militia groups’ bigoted and conspiratorial views about Muslims and immigrants.

Man In Militia Plot To Kidnap Michigan Governor Shared Stage With Extremist Sheriff

Sheriff Dar Leaf stood with the militiaman at an anti-lockdown rally. He's part of the "constitutional sheriffs" movement, a close ally of America's far-right paramilitaries.

www.huffpost.com

 

[sealybobo]

It's not just extreme right wingers. We aren't exactly living in relaxed, civil times in the battle of America vs China.

Remember this, China has the upper hand. The West has little mass support from the communists.

Actually the problem is that both sides believe the propaganda put out by their own side. If you honestly believe Trump is a Fascist. Truly believe that the Republicans are going full Fascist. Then nothing that you do is extreme in opposing them. If you honestly believe that the Communists or Socialist forces are going to take over. There is nothing worse than losing. Anything you do is justified in stopping them.

It is to the minds of the believers like having an opportunity to stop Hitler or Stalin before they commit the horrors we all know about from history. Anything is preferable to that. And that attitude has led humanity down the path of doom more than once. I call it learning the wrong lesson in history.

It is why I am not voting this year. Both sides are wrong. Both sides will lead us to ruination. Too many years of this propaganda has poisoned the nations soul.

Except there is NOTHING Trump has said or done that leaves anyone to believe he is in any way a "nazi fascist." NOTHING.

Train stations named after him in Israel along with a community in Israel. Trump has denounced WHITE SUPREMACISTS. At least 19 documented times and the left ignores IT ALL.



However it is 100 percent true that democrats are directed by cultural marxists and there is more than enough evidence that proves it conclusively.

They all praise blm and their founder flat out says they are marxists.





That is a big gigantic fucking difference.

Being a White Nationalist and neo fascist one must infer from your defense of Dumb Donald that you are credible, and anything your dear leader says or tweets is all about himself. He's toss you under the bus if you so much as forget to "god bless you' when he sneezed.

So being black power racists like BLM and a Marxist like both BLM and Antifa is alright by you? Burning, looting and murder are also alright by you?

Being in the BLM movement is good. Burning and looting is bad. Two different things.

 

[jbrownson0831]

It's not just extreme right wingers. We aren't exactly living in relaxed, civil times in the battle of America vs China.

Remember this, China has the upper hand. The West has little mass support from the communists.

Actually the problem is that both sides believe the propaganda put out by their own side. If you honestly believe Trump is a Fascist. Truly believe that the Republicans are going full Fascist. Then nothing that you do is extreme in opposing them. If you honestly believe that the Communists or Socialist forces are going to take over. There is nothing worse than losing. Anything you do is justified in stopping them.

It is to the minds of the believers like having an opportunity to stop Hitler or Stalin before they commit the horrors we all know about from history. Anything is preferable to that. And that attitude has led humanity down the path of doom more than once. I call it learning the wrong lesson in history.

It is why I am not voting this year. Both sides are wrong. Both sides will lead us to ruination. Too many years of this propaganda has poisoned the nations soul.

Except there is NOTHING Trump has said or done that leaves anyone to believe he is in any way a "nazi fascist." NOTHING.

Train stations named after him in Israel along with a community in Israel. Trump has denounced WHITE SUPREMACISTS. At least 19 documented times and the left ignores IT ALL.



However it is 100 percent true that democrats are directed by cultural marxists and there is more than enough evidence that proves it conclusively.

They all praise blm and their founder flat out says they are marxists.





That is a big gigantic fucking difference.

Being a White Nationalist and neo fascist one must infer from your defense of Dumb Donald that you are credible, and anything your dear leader says or tweets is all about himself. He's toss you under the bus if you so much as forget to "god bless you' when he sneezed.

So being black power racists like BLM and a Marxist like both BLM and Antifa is alright by you? Burning, looting and murder are also alright by you?

Being in the BLM movement is good. Burning and looting is bad. Two different things.

Oh brother, you cannot possibly believe that horseradish.

 

[Dragonlady]

Look, bitches. The days of being civil and nice are GONE. This is war, and Woden wants me to kill all of my enemies or die in battle and go to Valhalla.

Dead commies or Valhalla bitches. Either way, I win.

That is how Trump made you. You are a very nice human being.

I treat mosquitoes sucking the blood out of my skin with more respect than I do communist

There haven't been any communists in the world since Fidel Castro died. The whole movement died when the Soviet Union fell. Why are you still pretending communism is the problem when right wing facism is the problem currently plaguing the west?

Because right wing fascism is a problem and a lot of the people on this board are right wing fascists.

They know that the majority of our nation aren't right wing fascists so the far right wing fascists do their usual projection.

They accuse everyone else of being what the right wing fascists themselves are.

They've been doing it for decades. It's gotten so very old.

If you want to know what a conservative or right winger thinks are wants to do, or is doing, just listen to what they accuse others of doing. The right winger is doing what they accuse others of doing but the people they accuse aren't doing what the right winger accuses them of doing.

It's very twisted.

Democrats are trying to burn free speakers alive and the right is fascist!? Lol are you on crack?

Funny how the Democrats are supposedly doing the burning, but the guys who are getting arrested for the burning are the members of one of same groups that were arrested yesterday for conspiracy to kidnap Governor Whitmer: The Boogaloo Boys. The guys who hate everyone and are trying to start a civil war.

All of the people who are getting arresting for the violence, the burning and the looting are right wing anarchists, affiliated with the Boogaloo Boys and similar groups. The FBI and their arrest records say so.

But Donald Trump, who can't even bring himself to condemn David Duke or Richard Spencer, refuses to even acknowledge right wing terrorism. He has praised and defended another right wing anarchist who is facing murder charges - Kyle Rittenhouse. He said on TV the protestors were chasing him, "I don't know why", and he fell down and they were gonna hurt him worse.

Trump doesn't know why the protestors were chasing Kyle Rittenhouse, but it was in all of the police reports, and news reports. He shot a protestor. That's why they were chasing him. And when he fell down, he started shooting randomly at the people chasing him and he murdered two of them. Rittenhouse crossed state lines with an illegal gun and shot three people with it, and Trump is hailing him as a hero there to protect property, and ordered his people to speaking glowingly of Kyle's Patriotism. They celebrated him at the RNC.

Trump is attempting to blame the violence, the burning and the looting on the left, even as law enforcement, the mayors, the state officials, and the courts, are prosecuting radical right wing fringe groups for all of the above.

But you want to believe it's the left, so you cheerfully believe Trump's deflections, and his dog whistles to the militia because you're incapable of believing anything else, regardless of facts.

Might want to check your internet connection it’s blm and antifa two left wing groups attacking federal agents and getting released.. republicans Aren’t the ones that need to answer for racism that democrats and Richard Spencer

You might want to check the links I posted. It was two military men who are members of the Boogaloo Boys.

So the rioters are right wingers white supremacists and they are all black ? Lol

The guys with the molotov cocktails, are white supremacists. Umbrella guy in Minneapolis - the white guy with the umbrella who was using the sharp end of the umbrella to break store windows, and then would come back a short time later - was tackled and helf by protestors - was a white nationist. He was targetting popular black owned businesses. These guys went for the black owned businesses first, so that when this is over, black business owners will be out of business.

Subsequent videos show several youths running into the burning building and pulling stuff out. Those are the pictures FOX showed. The "looting" was taking out stuff that the White Supremacists would have burned anyway.

Their intent was manipulation and incitement. Go in Start the fires, get things going, stir everyone up - the protestors, the cops. START A RIOT. They get their jollies wreaking havoc. Their goal is to have Democrats blame Republicans for the violence, and Republicans to blame anti-fa. THEY'RE TRYING TO START A CIVIL WAR.

You, and your brain dead, dumb ass President aiding and abetting their cause. Gawd but you people are so fucking gullible it's amazing you managed to achieve adulthood. It's like debating with Forest Gump.

 

[Polishprince]

The guys with the molotov cocktails, are white supremacists. Umbrella guy in Minneapolis - the white guy with the umbrella who was using the sharp end of the umbrella to break store windows, and then would come back a short time later - was tackled and helf by protestors - was a white nationist. He was targetting popular black owned businesses. These guys went for the black owned businesses first, so that when this is over, black business owners will be out of business.

Did they catch and identify the Umbrella guy? What white nationalist outfit does he belong to? Or is this just hopeful speculation on your part?

 

[MarcATL]

The corporate white media needs to stop referring to these terrorists as a "militia."

Call them what they are, terrorists.

We learned during the Bush II Administration that unless we can rightly call them by their name, we won't be able to address and/or solve the problem.

 

[Polishprince]

The corporate white media needs to stop referring to these terrorists as a "militia."

Call them what they are, terrorists.

We learned during the Bush II Administration that unless we can rightly call them by their name, we won't be able to address and/or solve the problem.

The militia here didn't commit any terror acts and weren't going to be able to complete any even if they wanted to. So "terrorist" really isn't appropriate. And they've already been defeated

 

[MarcATL]

The militia here didn't commit any terror acts and weren't going to be able to complete any even if they wanted to. So "terrorist" really isn't appropriate. And they've already been defeated

Trump's FBI told us as the biggest problem America has w/domestic terrorism is w/the white supremacists groups like this one.

So, no, they're not defeated.

We haven't BEGUN to touch this problem.

They are terrorists, because they planned to commit terror.

 

[xyz]

The guys with the molotov cocktails, are white supremacists. Umbrella guy in Minneapolis - the white guy with the umbrella who was using the sharp end of the umbrella to break store windows, and then would come back a short time later - was tackled and helf by protestors - was a white nationist. He was targetting popular black owned businesses. These guys went for the black owned businesses first, so that when this is over, black business owners will be out of business.

Did they catch and identify the Umbrella guy? What white nationalist outfit does he belong to? Or is this just hopeful speculation on your part?

Mitchell Carlson: Minnesota Man Named in ‘Umbrella Man’ Search Warrant

 

[xyz]

The corporate white media needs to stop referring to these terrorists as a "militia."

Call them what they are, terrorists.

We learned during the Bush II Administration that unless we can rightly call them by their name, we won't be able to address and/or solve the problem.

The militia here didn't commit any terror acts and weren't going to be able to complete any even if they wanted to. So "terrorist" really isn't appropriate. And they've already been defeated

So Muslims wanting to commit acts but incapable or caught before the act should not be labeled "terrorists"?

 

[Beef_Supreme]

Maybe these dudes heard about “stretchin gretchen’s” rep, and wanted to see just how many shlongs she could cram in simultaneously.

 

[Theowl32]

The corporate white media needs to stop referring to these terrorists as a "militia."

Call them what they are, terrorists.

We learned during the Bush II Administration that unless we can rightly call them by their name, we won't be able to address and/or solve the problem.

The militia here didn't commit any terror acts and weren't going to be able to complete any even if they wanted to. So "terrorist" really isn't appropriate. And they've already been defeated

So Muslims wanting to commit acts but incapable or caught before the act should not be labeled "terrorists"?

Not if they are negroes, and especially not if they hate Christians, Americans and Israel.

Those are FREEDOM FIGHTERS.

 

[xyz]

The corporate white media needs to stop referring to these terrorists as a "militia."

Call them what they are, terrorists.

We learned during the Bush II Administration that unless we can rightly call them by their name, we won't be able to address and/or solve the problem.

The militia here didn't commit any terror acts and weren't going to be able to complete any even if they wanted to. So "terrorist" really isn't appropriate. And they've already been defeated

So Muslims wanting to commit acts but incapable or caught before the act should not be labeled "terrorists"?

Not if they are negroes, and especially not if they hate Christians, Americans and Israel.

Those are FREEDOM FIGHTERS.

Did you just say Islamist terrorists should not be considered terrorists and are freedom fighters??? Because that's EXACTLY what you posted answering my post.

 

[Theowl32]

The corporate white media needs to stop referring to these terrorists as a "militia."

Call them what they are, terrorists.

We learned during the Bush II Administration that unless we can rightly call them by their name, we won't be able to address and/or solve the problem.

The militia here didn't commit any terror acts and weren't going to be able to complete any even if they wanted to. So "terrorist" really isn't appropriate. And they've already been defeated

So Muslims wanting to commit acts but incapable or caught before the act should not be labeled "terrorists"?

Not if they are negroes, and especially not if they hate Christians, Americans and Israel.

Those are FREEDOM FIGHTERS.

Did you just say Islamist terrorists should not be considered terrorists and are freedom fighters??? Because that's EXACTLY what you posted answering my post.

Yes, to losers on the left, that is what they are and what they call them.