FBI stops militia plot to kidnap Gretchen Whitmer

The corporate white media needs to stop referring to these terrorists as a "militia."

Call them what they are, terrorists.

We learned during the Bush II Administration that unless we can rightly call them by their name, we won't be able to address and/or solve the problem.


The militia here didn't commit any terror acts and weren't going to be able to complete any even if they wanted to. So "terrorist" really isn't appropriate. And they've already been defeated
So Muslims wanting to commit acts but incapable or caught before the act should not be labeled "terrorists"?
Not if they are negroes, and especially not if they hate Christians, Americans and Israel.

Those are FREEDOM FIGHTERS.
Did you just say Islamist terrorists should not be considered terrorists and are freedom fighters??? Because that's EXACTLY what you posted answering my post.
Yes, to losers on the left, that is what they are and what they call them.
prove it.
 
Such groups have also enjoyed the endorsement and encouragement of the Trump administration, which shares militia groups’ bigoted and conspiratorial views about Muslims and immigrants
If you're gonna try linking Trump, or any person who supports the Constitution, with those advocating kidnapping and murder, then Biden and all the commie opposition on the left are responsible for the attempted massacre of 30 Republicans. We have no choice but to remove every damn Democrat from office on November 3rd
 
Look, bitches. The days of being civil and nice are GONE. This is war, and Woden wants me to kill all of my enemies or die in battle and go to Valhalla.

Dead commies or Valhalla bitches. Either way, I win.
That is how Trump made you. You are a very nice human being.
I treat mosquitoes sucking the blood out of my skin with more respect than I do communist

There haven't been any communists in the world since Fidel Castro died. The whole movement died when the Soviet Union fell. Why are you still pretending communism is the problem when right wing facism is the problem currently plaguing the west?
There haven't been any communists in the world since Fidel Castro died.

The Dimwinger party has one with his hand up Biden's back side using him as a puppet, you moron.

No communists in the world?????????????????? :cuckoo: :cuckoo: :cuckoo: :cuckoo:
 
Look, bitches. The days of being civil and nice are GONE. This is war, and Woden wants me to kill all of my enemies or die in battle and go to Valhalla.

Dead commies or Valhalla bitches. Either way, I win.
That is how Trump made you. You are a very nice human being.
I treat mosquitoes sucking the blood out of my skin with more respect than I do communist

There haven't been any communists in the world since Fidel Castro died. The whole movement died when the Soviet Union fell. Why are you still pretending communism is the problem when right wing facism is the problem currently plaguing the west?



Because right wing fascism is a problem and a lot of the people on this board are right wing fascists.

They know that the majority of our nation aren't right wing fascists so the far right wing fascists do their usual projection.

They accuse everyone else of being what the right wing fascists themselves are.

They've been doing it for decades. It's gotten so very old.

If you want to know what a conservative or right winger thinks are wants to do, or is doing, just listen to what they accuse others of doing. The right winger is doing what they accuse others of doing but the people they accuse aren't doing what the right winger accuses them of doing.

It's very twisted.
Democrats are trying to burn free speakers alive and the right is fascist!? Lol are you on crack?

Funny how the Democrats are supposedly doing the burning, but the guys who are getting arrested for the burning are the members of one of same groups that were arrested yesterday for conspiracy to kidnap Governor Whitmer: The Boogaloo Boys. The guys who hate everyone and are trying to start a civil war.

All of the people who are getting arresting for the violence, the burning and the looting are right wing anarchists, affiliated with the Boogaloo Boys and similar groups. The FBI and their arrest records say so.

But Donald Trump, who can't even bring himself to condemn David Duke or Richard Spencer, refuses to even acknowledge right wing terrorism. He has praised and defended another right wing anarchist who is facing murder charges - Kyle Rittenhouse. He said on TV the protestors were chasing him, "I don't know why", and he fell down and they were gonna hurt him worse.

Trump doesn't know why the protestors were chasing Kyle Rittenhouse, but it was in all of the police reports, and news reports. He shot a protestor. That's why they were chasing him. And when he fell down, he started shooting randomly at the people chasing him and he murdered two of them. Rittenhouse crossed state lines with an illegal gun and shot three people with it, and Trump is hailing him as a hero there to protect property, and ordered his people to speaking glowingly of Kyle's Patriotism. They celebrated him at the RNC.

Trump is attempting to blame the violence, the burning and the looting on the left, even as law enforcement, the mayors, the state officials, and the courts, are prosecuting radical right wing fringe groups for all of the above.

But you want to believe it's the left, so you cheerfully believe Trump's deflections, and his dog whistles to the militia because you're incapable of believing anything else, regardless of facts.
Might want to check your internet connection it’s blm and antifa two left wing groups attacking federal agents and getting released.. republicans Aren’t the ones that need to answer for racism that democrats and Richard Spencer

You might want to check the links I posted. It was two military men who are members of the Boogaloo Boys.
So the rioters are right wingers white supremacists and they are all black ? Lol

The guys with the molotov cocktails, are white supremacists. Umbrella guy in Minneapolis - the white guy with the umbrella who was using the sharp end of the umbrella to break store windows, and then would come back a short time later - was tackled and helf by protestors - was a white nationist. He was targetting popular black owned businesses. These guys went for the black owned businesses first, so that when this is over, black business owners will be out of business.

Subsequent videos show several youths running into the burning building and pulling stuff out. Those are the pictures FOX showed. The "looting" was taking out stuff that the White Supremacists would have burned anyway.

Their intent was manipulation and incitement. Go in Start the fires, get things going, stir everyone up - the protestors, the cops. START A RIOT. They get their jollies wreaking havoc. Their goal is to have Democrats blame Republicans for the violence, and Republicans to blame anti-fa. THEY'RE TRYING TO START A CIVIL WAR.

You, and your brain dead, dumb ass President aiding and abetting their cause. Gawd but you people are so fucking gullible it's amazing you managed to achieve adulthood. It's like debating with Forest Gump.
I would ask for a link backing up your claims, but we all know you can never do that.
 
Biden did the right thing and showed leadership.

Trump is a crazy asshole. *Fact*
For 50 years Biden has shown everything but leadership
He has been a leader in the Senate and VP, you are a blind brainwashed fool.
I am neither blind nor brainwashed, hypocrite.
Then you are really racist or really rich and lying to us.

Hah, pulling the race card again!!...

The only reasons for someone who isn't a billionaire to support Donald Trump are (a) the are too stupid to fact check or realize they've been conned; or (b) they like his policies - all of which are racist, which is why he's lost the black and Hispanic vote except for Cubans, or misogynistic, which is why he's lost the women's vote, or they get people killed, which is why he is losing the elderly vote and the votes of those who love and care for them.

In the choice between stupid, racist, misogynist, or just like killing old people, please tell us why you're voting for Trump.

Economy is off the list - he crashed, it. Immigration is also off the list. There will be war crimes trials over his administration policy there, when he's gone.
And remember his economy wasn't that great. Certainly his 2018 tax cuts didn't produce what we were promised. In 2019 he only had 2.3% growth.

He took over an already good economy. Unemployment was already low. Republcans didn't believe the numbers when Obama was president. Obama created more jobs than Trump did. And when the stock market was up in 2015 Republicans said look at the debt. Well look at the debt Trump's tax breaks created.

The fact my brother makes over $500,000 a year and is not voting for Trump says a lot. He said it took him about 20 minutes to decide but he can't take another 4 years of Trump. Then he said don't tell all our Republican friends.

This was unsolicited so he didn't lie to me. He didn't have to tell me anything. And I stopped years ago trying to convince him the GOP sucks.

And if Trump loses it's his own fault. Besides how he handled the coronavirus he played divisive politics for the entire 4 years. Also all the lies big and small. That turns everyone except for deplorable Trump supporters off. I'm glad he did it because if he didn't he would have easily won a second term.
Waah waah waah always crying, more whiny America hating libber propaganda.
I'm happy I think Biden is going to win now. My brother didn't vote for Trump again and I know 13 guys who won't be voting for Trump next month. LOL.
Ooooh 13 guys......lol...and how do you know who they are going to vote for?

Man In Militia Plot To Kidnap Michigan Governor Shared Stage With Extremist Sheriff
Sheriff Dar Leaf stood with the militiaman at an anti-lockdown rally. He’s part of the “constitutional sheriffs” movement, a close ally of America’s far-right paramilitaries.


Not extremist left. Extremist right.

“Wolverine Watchmen”

What Leaf did not address in his Fox 17 interview, however, is his membership in the right-wing extremist “constitutional sheriffs” movement — a close ally of America’s armed militias — that has gained a concerning momentum during the era of President Donald Trump.

Leaf, according to a database created by the social justice think tank Political Research Associates, attended the 2019 conference of the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association.

Like Trump said, no police endorse Biden. They all endorse Trump.

Constitutional sheriffs are part of the broader antigovernment “patriot” movement in the U.S., which is animated by a multitude of conspiracy theories about immigrants, Muslims, Jews, gun control measures, and a coming “New World Order.”


One of the goals of these sheriffs, Cooper said, is to legitimize militia groups and turn them into “sheriff’s posses” who can be enlisted to patrol their respective city’s streets.
The danger of law enforcement lending credibility to such groups has come into clear focus over the last four years, as militias have been implicated in violent plots targeting Muslims, leftist and anti-racist protesters, and most recently, the governor of Michigan.
Such groups have also enjoyed the endorsement and encouragement of the Trump administration, which shares militia groups’ bigoted and conspiratorial views about Muslims and immigrants.

You see you trying to smear the militias but it isn't working---they aren't the ones out burning and looting. And again the boogaleu boys are largely muslims including immigrants.
 
The corporate white media needs to stop referring to these terrorists as a "militia."

Call them what they are, terrorists.

We learned during the Bush II Administration that unless we can rightly call them by their name, we won't be able to address and/or solve the problem.


The militia here didn't commit any terror acts and weren't going to be able to complete any even if they wanted to. So "terrorist" really isn't appropriate. And they've already been defeated
So Muslims wanting to commit acts but incapable or caught before the act should not be labeled "terrorists"?
Not if they are negroes, and especially not if they hate Christians, Americans and Israel.

Those are FREEDOM FIGHTERS.
Did you just say Islamist terrorists should not be considered terrorists and are freedom fighters??? Because that's EXACTLY what you posted answering my post.
Yes, to losers on the left, that is what they are and what they call them.
prove it.



After 9/11, the Reuters news service issued an infamous style decree: Its reporters could not refer to the terrorist attack as such unless they used scare quotes. “We all know that one man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter, and that Reuters upholds the principle that we do not use the word terrorist,” explained global news editor Stephen Jukes. (Although Jukes is long gone from Reuters, his scare-quote legacy lives on. A dispatch early this week referred to Israeli immigration as “Jews coming to ‘the Jewish...


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You don't know the left empathize with terrorists in their disdain for America, Israel and Christians?


This is new?
 
It's not just extreme right wingers. We aren't exactly living in relaxed, civil times in the battle of America vs China.

Remember this, China has the upper hand. The West has little mass support from the communists.

Actually the problem is that both sides believe the propaganda put out by their own side. If you honestly believe Trump is a Fascist. Truly believe that the Republicans are going full Fascist. Then nothing that you do is extreme in opposing them. If you honestly believe that the Communists or Socialist forces are going to take over. There is nothing worse than losing. Anything you do is justified in stopping them.

It is to the minds of the believers like having an opportunity to stop Hitler or Stalin before they commit the horrors we all know about from history. Anything is preferable to that. And that attitude has led humanity down the path of doom more than once. I call it learning the wrong lesson in history.

It is why I am not voting this year. Both sides are wrong. Both sides will lead us to ruination. Too many years of this propaganda has poisoned the nations soul.
Except there is NOTHING Trump has said or done that leaves anyone to believe he is in any way a "nazi fascist." NOTHING.

Train stations named after him in Israel along with a community in Israel. Trump has denounced WHITE SUPREMACISTS. At least 19 documented times and the left ignores IT ALL.



However it is 100 percent true that democrats are directed by cultural marxists and there is more than enough evidence that proves it conclusively.

They all praise blm and their founder flat out says they are marxists.





That is a big gigantic fucking difference.


Being a White Nationalist and neo fascist one must infer from your defense of Dumb Donald that you are not credible; anything your dear leader says or tweets is all about himself. He'd toss you under the bus if you so much as forget to "god bless you' when he sneezed. Open you eyes, close your mind to conspiracy stories (they don't qualify for a theory) and see reality. Dumb Donald is Mentally Ill.
 
It's not just extreme right wingers. We aren't exactly living in relaxed, civil times in the battle of America vs China.

Remember this, China has the upper hand. The West has little mass support from the communists.

Actually the problem is that both sides believe the propaganda put out by their own side. If you honestly believe Trump is a Fascist. Truly believe that the Republicans are going full Fascist. Then nothing that you do is extreme in opposing them. If you honestly believe that the Communists or Socialist forces are going to take over. There is nothing worse than losing. Anything you do is justified in stopping them.

It is to the minds of the believers like having an opportunity to stop Hitler or Stalin before they commit the horrors we all know about from history. Anything is preferable to that. And that attitude has led humanity down the path of doom more than once. I call it learning the wrong lesson in history.

It is why I am not voting this year. Both sides are wrong. Both sides will lead us to ruination. Too many years of this propaganda has poisoned the nations soul.
Except there is NOTHING Trump has said or done that leaves anyone to believe he is in any way a "nazi fascist." NOTHING.

Train stations named after him in Israel along with a community in Israel. Trump has denounced WHITE SUPREMACISTS. At least 19 documented times and the left ignores IT ALL.



However it is 100 percent true that democrats are directed by cultural marxists and there is more than enough evidence that proves it conclusively.

They all praise blm and their founder flat out says they are marxists.






Founder of democrat organization ACLU

I am for socialism, disarmament, and, ultimately, for abolishing the state itself... I seek the social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class, and the sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal.

Roger Nash Baldwin

That is a big gigantic fucking difference.


Everyone points fingers at the other side. And you know what? There is truth in what they say. But no side has the whole truth on their side.
 
It's not just extreme right wingers. We aren't exactly living in relaxed, civil times in the battle of America vs China.

Remember this, China has the upper hand. The West has little mass support from the communists.

Actually the problem is that both sides believe the propaganda put out by their own side. If you honestly believe Trump is a Fascist. Truly believe that the Republicans are going full Fascist. Then nothing that you do is extreme in opposing them. If you honestly believe that the Communists or Socialist forces are going to take over. There is nothing worse than losing. Anything you do is justified in stopping them.

It is to the minds of the believers like having an opportunity to stop Hitler or Stalin before they commit the horrors we all know about from history. Anything is preferable to that. And that attitude has led humanity down the path of doom more than once. I call it learning the wrong lesson in history.

It is why I am not voting this year. Both sides are wrong. Both sides will lead us to ruination. Too many years of this propaganda has poisoned the nations soul.
Except there is NOTHING Trump has said or done that leaves anyone to believe he is in any way a "nazi fascist." NOTHING.

Train stations named after him in Israel along with a community in Israel. Trump has denounced WHITE SUPREMACISTS. At least 19 documented times and the left ignores IT ALL.



However it is 100 percent true that democrats are directed by cultural marxists and there is more than enough evidence that proves it conclusively.

They all praise blm and their founder flat out says they are marxists.






Founder of democrat organization ACLU

I am for socialism, disarmament, and, ultimately, for abolishing the state itself... I seek the social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class, and the sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal.

Roger Nash Baldwin

That is a big gigantic fucking difference.


Everyone points fingers at the other side. And you know what? There is truth in what they say. But no side has the whole truth on their side.

In what ways is Trump fascist? I showed you where the left are indeed marxists. Have actual proof Trump is a fascist nazi? Weird how such an obvious nazi would be honored by Israel. Huh...

So, should I wait for all of the obvious fascism from Trump? Is the dog whistle bullshit about making America great again, means we should go back to being nazis?

Is that it? That the proof?
 
The guys with the molotov cocktails, are white supremacists. Umbrella guy in Minneapolis - the white guy with the umbrella who was using the sharp end of the umbrella to break store windows, and then would come back a short time later - was tackled and helf by protestors - was a white nationist. He was targetting popular black owned businesses. These guys went for the black owned businesses first, so that when this is over, black business owners will be out of business.


Did they catch and identify the Umbrella guy? What white nationalist outfit does he belong to? Or is this just hopeful speculation on your part?

A new an association of a new chapter of the Aryan and a hell's angel. They might not have caught him yet.



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A masked man who was seen in a viral video smashing the windows of a south Minneapolis auto parts store during the George Floyd protests, earning him the moniker "Umbrella Man," is suspected of ties with a white supremacist group and sought to incite racial tension, police said.
A Minneapolis police arson investigator said the act of vandalism at the AutoZone on E. Lake Street helped spark a chain reaction that led to days of looting and rioting. The store was among dozens of buildings across the city that burned to the ground in the days that followed.
"This was the first fire that set off a string of fires and looting throughout the precinct and the rest of the city," Sgt. Erika Christensen wrote in a search warrant affidavit filed in court this week. "Until the actions of the person your affiant has been calling 'Umbrella Man,' the protests had been relatively peaceful. The actions of this person created an atmosphere of hostility and tension. Your affiant believes that this individual's sole aim was to incite violence."
Police identified "Umbrella Man" thanks to a tip that came via e-mail last week, Christensen said.
The Star Tribune could not independently verify the police account, which has so far only surfaced in the search warrant, and isn't naming the man because so far he has not been charged with a crime. The man, who has a criminal history that includes convictions of domestic violence and assault, did not respond to messages seeking comment. Spokespersons for the Minneapolis Police Department and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, which is also involved in the investigation, declined to comment.
Floyd's death under the knee of a since-fired police officer set off protests that spread around the world and stirred widespread reckoning over racial injustice. Derek Chauvin is charged with second-degree murder and manslaughter, and three of his former colleagues also at the scene, J. Alexander Kueng, Thomas Lane and Tou Thao, have been charged with aiding and abetting Chauvin.
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Rioters set fire to the AutoZone near Lake Street and 27th Ave. S. on May 27.


At least two people died in the subsequent riots, which eventually spread as far as north Minneapolis and South St. Paul, and caused roughly $500 million in damage. Authorities have since charged a handful of people with arson-related crimes.
A widely shared livestream video from May 27 — two days after Floyd's death — showed the man walking casually along the front of the former site of AutoZone at E. Lake Street and Minnehaha, breaking out its windows with a 4-pound sledgehammer, prompting some protesters to confront him and demand that he stop. Before that, police say, the man, clad head to toe in black and carrying a black umbrella, had spray-painted "free [expletive] for everyone zone" on the double front doors.
At the time, activists seized on the footage as proof that outside "provocateurs" were trying to derail what had been a mostly peaceful demonstration. But others on social media pointed out that at least some looting had gone on before the video surfaced.
Christensen wrote in the affidavit that she watched "innumerable hours" of videos on social media platforms to try to identify "Umbrella Man," to no avail. Investigators finally caught a break when a tipster e-mailed the MPD identifying him as a member of the Hells Angels biker gang who "wanted to sow discord and racial unrest by breaking out the windows and writing what he did on the double red doors," she wrote.
Police have also connected the 32-year-old man to a widely publicized incident in Stillwater late last month, in which a Muslim woman was confronted by men wearing white supremacist garb.

A subsequent investigation revealed the man was also an associate of the Aryan Cowboy Brotherhood, a small white supremacist prison and street gang based primarily in Minnesota and Kentucky. Several of its members were also present at the Stillwater incident.
Andy Shoemaker, a former St. Paul police officer who has investigated criminal motorcycle gangs, said the Aryan Cowboys are relatively new with loyalties to the Hells Angels, who operate across the state.
"They're another group that's basically a farm system, a minor league for the Hells Angels," he said, adding the Angels occasionally recruit members from some of these offshoot clubs.
 
Whitmer immediately blamed the plot on President Trump telling the Proud Boys to “stand back and stand by.”
This is who she is, and why she is despised. Like all Democrats shes more interested in causing trouble for the president than her own safety. Shes
Pelosi just a few decades younger. This state made a huge mistake putting her in office as did NY, and CA
She's not despised by anyone but you right wingers. Nation wide you've tried to use her as a punching bag but here in Michigan, other than right wingers, no one hates her.



All they are doing is guaranteeing that she will be reelected.

Most of the people in Michigan like her.

The other thing they are doing, driving sane and normal people from the Republican Party. If there are any left.

All they are doing is further destroying the republican party.


If the people like Ms. Whitmer's record of maintaining one of the highest Coronavirus death rates in the country, in spite having the state locked down tight, good for them.
What should she do if Republicans who live in MI won't listen or wear masks? My nephew and a bunch of his 18 year old friends all got it by partying together. Making out. Sharing joints.
Tar and feather them....put them in jail.....confiscate all their belongings...that will make them wear silly face diapers!
I went to Michigan State University to visit him. They are all wearing masks now. If you want to stay on campus you must ALWAYS wear a mask. Even outside. He did say you could get arrested if caught not wearing a mask. GOOD! It's the patriotic thing to do. I don't wear a mask outside but it should be mandatory in any business. MANDATORY. No shoes, no shirt, no mask, no service.
Baloney. Masks are control items to show who is willing to submit to rule.

Well you fit right in with Pence, Trump and their families. Self righteous jerks who have no respect for anyone but themselves, AKA Callous Conservatives. Pence's claim that he is a Christian is a damn lie.
 
This is a big bunch of October nonsense by the swamp ruled FBI....the group in question are closer to ANTIFA than a right wing militant group...they hate Trump for one thing.....the FBI is still run by anti Trumpers....I can't wait to see Wray sent packing without any security clearances.....
 
It's not just extreme right wingers. We aren't exactly living in relaxed, civil times in the battle of America vs China.

Remember this, China has the upper hand. The West has little mass support from the communists.

Actually the problem is that both sides believe the propaganda put out by their own side. If you honestly believe Trump is a Fascist. Truly believe that the Republicans are going full Fascist. Then nothing that you do is extreme in opposing them. If you honestly believe that the Communists or Socialist forces are going to take over. There is nothing worse than losing. Anything you do is justified in stopping them.

It is to the minds of the believers like having an opportunity to stop Hitler or Stalin before they commit the horrors we all know about from history. Anything is preferable to that. And that attitude has led humanity down the path of doom more than once. I call it learning the wrong lesson in history.

It is why I am not voting this year. Both sides are wrong. Both sides will lead us to ruination. Too many years of this propaganda has poisoned the nations soul.
Except there is NOTHING Trump has said or done that leaves anyone to believe he is in any way a "nazi fascist." NOTHING.

Train stations named after him in Israel along with a community in Israel. Trump has denounced WHITE SUPREMACISTS. At least 19 documented times and the left ignores IT ALL.



However it is 100 percent true that democrats are directed by cultural marxists and there is more than enough evidence that proves it conclusively.

They all praise blm and their founder flat out says they are marxists.





That is a big gigantic fucking difference.


Being a White Nationalist and neo fascist one must infer from your defense of Dumb Donald that you are credible, and anything your dear leader says or tweets is all about himself. He's toss you under the bus if you so much as forget to "god bless you' when he sneezed.

So being black power racists like BLM and a Marxist like both BLM and Antifa is alright by you? Burning, looting and murder are also alright by you?

Being in the BLM movement is good. Burning and looting is bad. Two different things.

Oh brother, you cannot possibly believe that horseradish.


The BLM is a peaceful protest. The videos on the MSM show a diverse group of citizens wearing masks and protesting the murders by rogue cops of black men.

Fox news disregards the peaceful videos and showed shadows of people wearing hoods and masks vandalizing stores and starting fires, throwing rocks and fireworks at the Police.

Fox made sure to post black men and women looting; they are criminals not protesters and they are the minority of those on the streets; Fox Producers made sure not to broadcast that reality.
 
This is a big bunch of October nonsense by the swamp ruled FBI....the group in question are closer to ANTIFA than a right wing militant group...they hate Trump for one thing.....the FBI is still run by anti Trumpers....I can't wait to see Wray sent packing without any security clearances.....

LOL, Rambunctious is a well known right wing hack, who posts lies. He's part of the anti government, anarchist kook set.
 
Right wingers are getting crazier by the minute. A right wing militia plotted to kidnap the governor of Michigan.
The FBI stopped them.

I hope they prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law. All crimes need the harshest punishment possible.
They didn’t commit any crimes. They talked about possible scenarios of overthrowing a tyrant. Much like Thomas Jefferson did:

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure.”

It's weird how right wingers don't consider the arbitrary power to take life without any accountability tyranny (even though that is practically a dictionary definition) but DO think that measured aimed at preventing irresponsible people from spreading disease IS tyranny.

Y'all need remedial history lessons, bigly.

 
It astounds me the degree's of deception and excuses RWNJ's will go to to excuse their radicals. I keep forgetting these guys aren't REALLY radicals...they're Patriots and nice peaceful guys.

"The people that we charged are affiliated with this Wolverine Watchmen group," Nessel said, adding that it is a Michigan-based group. "But there are multiple white supremacy groups and militia groups that have been acting in accordance with one another."

Investigators found the men's mission is what white supremacist groups call "the Boogaloo," which Nessel described as an uprising or a second civil war.
“It astounds me the degree's of deception and excuses RWNJ's will go to to excuse their radicals.”

That’s because members of white supremacist groups and neo-fascist organizations constitute a significant percentage of the GOP voting block and Trump base.

No Republican/conservative is going to denounce white supremacist groups and neo-fascist organizations and risk losing their support.
 
Such groups have also enjoyed the endorsement and encouragement of the Trump administration, which shares militia groups’ bigoted and conspiratorial views about Muslims and immigrants
If you're gonna try linking Trump, or any person who supports the Constitution, with those advocating kidnapping and murder, then Biden and all the commie opposition on the left are responsible for the attempted massacre of 30 Republicans. We have no choice but to remove every damn Democrat from office on November 3rd
Too bad the senate is turning blue. But I’m not cocky because like 2009 we may control all three branches but the rich and powerful still control our government
 
Biden did the right thing and showed leadership.

Trump is a crazy asshole. *Fact*
For 50 years Biden has shown everything but leadership
He has been a leader in the Senate and VP, you are a blind brainwashed fool.
I am neither blind nor brainwashed, hypocrite.
Then you are really racist or really rich and lying to us.

Hah, pulling the race card again!!...

The only reasons for someone who isn't a billionaire to support Donald Trump are (a) the are too stupid to fact check or realize they've been conned; or (b) they like his policies - all of which are racist, which is why he's lost the black and Hispanic vote except for Cubans, or misogynistic, which is why he's lost the women's vote, or they get people killed, which is why he is losing the elderly vote and the votes of those who love and care for them.

In the choice between stupid, racist, misogynist, or just like killing old people, please tell us why you're voting for Trump.

Economy is off the list - he crashed, it. Immigration is also off the list. There will be war crimes trials over his administration policy there, when he's gone.
And remember his economy wasn't that great. Certainly his 2018 tax cuts didn't produce what we were promised. In 2019 he only had 2.3% growth.

He took over an already good economy. Unemployment was already low. Republcans didn't believe the numbers when Obama was president. Obama created more jobs than Trump did. And when the stock market was up in 2015 Republicans said look at the debt. Well look at the debt Trump's tax breaks created.

The fact my brother makes over $500,000 a year and is not voting for Trump says a lot. He said it took him about 20 minutes to decide but he can't take another 4 years of Trump. Then he said don't tell all our Republican friends.

This was unsolicited so he didn't lie to me. He didn't have to tell me anything. And I stopped years ago trying to convince him the GOP sucks.

And if Trump loses it's his own fault. Besides how he handled the coronavirus he played divisive politics for the entire 4 years. Also all the lies big and small. That turns everyone except for deplorable Trump supporters off. I'm glad he did it because if he didn't he would have easily won a second term.
Waah waah waah always crying, more whiny America hating libber propaganda.
I'm happy I think Biden is going to win now. My brother didn't vote for Trump again and I know 13 guys who won't be voting for Trump next month. LOL.
Ooooh 13 guys......lol...and how do you know who they are going to vote for?

Man In Militia Plot To Kidnap Michigan Governor Shared Stage With Extremist Sheriff
Sheriff Dar Leaf stood with the militiaman at an anti-lockdown rally. He’s part of the “constitutional sheriffs” movement, a close ally of America’s far-right paramilitaries.


Not extremist left. Extremist right.

“Wolverine Watchmen”

What Leaf did not address in his Fox 17 interview, however, is his membership in the right-wing extremist “constitutional sheriffs” movement — a close ally of America’s armed militias — that has gained a concerning momentum during the era of President Donald Trump.

Leaf, according to a database created by the social justice think tank Political Research Associates, attended the 2019 conference of the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association.

Like Trump said, no police endorse Biden. They all endorse Trump.

Constitutional sheriffs are part of the broader antigovernment “patriot” movement in the U.S., which is animated by a multitude of conspiracy theories about immigrants, Muslims, Jews, gun control measures, and a coming “New World Order.”


One of the goals of these sheriffs, Cooper said, is to legitimize militia groups and turn them into “sheriff’s posses” who can be enlisted to patrol their respective city’s streets.
The danger of law enforcement lending credibility to such groups has come into clear focus over the last four years, as militias have been implicated in violent plots targeting Muslims, leftist and anti-racist protesters, and most recently, the governor of Michigan.
Such groups have also enjoyed the endorsement and encouragement of the Trump administration, which shares militia groups’ bigoted and conspiratorial views about Muslims and immigrants.

You see you trying to smear the militias but it isn't working---they aren't the ones out burning and looting. And again the boogaleu boys are largely muslims including immigrants.
They are smearing themselves.
 
It's not just extreme right wingers. We aren't exactly living in relaxed, civil times in the battle of America vs China.

Remember this, China has the upper hand. The West has little mass support from the communists.

Actually the problem is that both sides believe the propaganda put out by their own side. If you honestly believe Trump is a Fascist. Truly believe that the Republicans are going full Fascist. Then nothing that you do is extreme in opposing them. If you honestly believe that the Communists or Socialist forces are going to take over. There is nothing worse than losing. Anything you do is justified in stopping them.

It is to the minds of the believers like having an opportunity to stop Hitler or Stalin before they commit the horrors we all know about from history. Anything is preferable to that. And that attitude has led humanity down the path of doom more than once. I call it learning the wrong lesson in history.

It is why I am not voting this year. Both sides are wrong. Both sides will lead us to ruination. Too many years of this propaganda has poisoned the nations soul.
Except there is NOTHING Trump has said or done that leaves anyone to believe he is in any way a "nazi fascist." NOTHING.

Train stations named after him in Israel along with a community in Israel. Trump has denounced WHITE SUPREMACISTS. At least 19 documented times and the left ignores IT ALL.



However it is 100 percent true that democrats are directed by cultural marxists and there is more than enough evidence that proves it conclusively.

They all praise blm and their founder flat out says they are marxists.





That is a big gigantic fucking difference.


Being a White Nationalist and neo fascist one must infer from your defense of Dumb Donald that you are credible, and anything your dear leader says or tweets is all about himself. He's toss you under the bus if you so much as forget to "god bless you' when he sneezed.

So being black power racists like BLM and a Marxist like both BLM and Antifa is alright by you? Burning, looting and murder are also alright by you?

Being in the BLM movement is good. Burning and looting is bad. Two different things.

Oh brother, you cannot possibly believe that horseradish.


The BLM is a peaceful protest. The videos on the MSM show a diverse group of citizens wearing masks and protesting the murders by rogue cops of black men.

Fox news disregards the peaceful videos and showed shadows of people wearing hoods and masks vandalizing stores and starting fires, throwing rocks and fireworks at the Police.

Fox made sure to post black men and women looting; they are criminals not protesters and they are the minority of those on the streets; Fox Producers made sure not to broadcast that reality.

And if republicans have to they’ll send troublemakers down to make it unlawful.

Republicans can either send people down and not admit they are involved or they can just hope a right wing rogue group will do it for them
 

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