FBI stops militia plot to kidnap Gretchen Whitmer

[Redcurtain]

This is what you get when you have a President, mind you, formenting hatred and violence...



From the article...

Federal prosecutors on Thursday announced the arrest of six men who allegedly plotted to violently overthrow the government and kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer.

The half a dozen men were arrested Wednesday night after the FBI and Michigan State Police reportedly spent hours raiding a Hartland, Michigan, home. As part of the alleged plot, the group reached out to members of a Michigan militia for help, according to a federal affidavit filed Thursday.

Feds Bust Militia Plot to Kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, Overthrow Government: Affidavit

“Violent extremists” hatched a plot to attack the Michigan Capitol building and kidnap Whitmer outside her vacation home ahead of Election Day, the feds said.

www.thedailybeast.com

Think these are more of the ANTIFA-type or more the Proud Boys-type people that got caught up in the heinous crime?

Does it really matter? Both extreme sides are wrong and need cleansed. The further each side distances instead of excusing the better off we are. Antifa killed a store owner in St. Louis, enough of the violence, death and plotting. Condemn it all, no excuses, the only way to end it.

No one side gets always with it daily the other is fed up they can’t buy seeds to feed their family

 

[B. Kidd]

The Wolverine Militia Corps was founded in 1994. Recently they assisted in the re-opening of a barbershop that led to the state Supreme court overturning Whitmer's directives!
This is extremely politically charged!!

Yup they been after them since they entered the state house with there constitutional rights.. why are there laws for republicans and democrats? Democrats are doing this every day in Portland

Looks to me like a Whitmer and Democrat Party payback.

 

[Billy_Bob]

The Wolverine Militia Corps was founded in 1994. Recently they assisted in the re-opening of a barbershop that led to the state Supreme court overturning Whitmer's directives!
This is extremely politically charged!!

Yup they been after them since they entered the state house with there constitutional rights.. why are there laws for republicans and democrats? Democrats are doing this every day in Portland

I watched the news confrence and it was all democrats and they were frothing at the mouth that anyone would not follow thier rules... I have more questions than answers now...

 

[Redcurtain]

The Wolverine Militia Corps was founded in 1994. Recently they assisted in the re-opening of a barbershop that led to the state Supreme court overturning Whitmer's directives!
This is extremely politically charged!!

Yup they been after them since they entered the state house with there constitutional rights.. why are there laws for republicans and democrats? Democrats are doing this every day in Portland

I watched the news confrence and it was all democrats and they were frothing at the mouth that anyone would not follow thier rules... I have more questions than answers now...

Omg did you hear that pig breath he couldn’t wait to spew his enjoyment,, sick

 

[Papageorgio]

It's not just extreme right wingers. We aren't exactly living in relaxed, civil times in the battle of America vs China.

Remember this, China has the upper hand. The West has little mass support from the communists.

Actually the problem is that both sides believe the propaganda put out by their own side. If you honestly believe Trump is a Fascist. Truly believe that the Republicans are going full Fascist. Then nothing that you do is extreme in opposing them. If you honestly believe that the Communists or Socialist forces are going to take over. There is nothing worse than losing. Anything you do is justified in stopping them.

It is to the minds of the believers like having an opportunity to stop Hitler or Stalin before they commit the horrors we all know about from history. Anything is preferable to that. And that attitude has led humanity down the path of doom more than once. I call it learning the wrong lesson in history.

It is why I am not voting this year. Both sides are wrong. Both sides will lead us to ruination. Too many years of this propaganda has poisoned the nations soul.

I am finding a third party, it’s a vote against two terrible parties.

 

[B. Kidd]

The Dimm's needed a wedge issue to counteract Repub's law and order message about rioters!
Now it's been delivered....those evil militias!

 

[Natural Citizen]

FOX is repeatedly referencing the kidnap plotters as militia members, too. lol. Ah, man. What a racket.

 

[MarcATL]

FOX is repeatedly referencing the kidnap plotters as militia members, too. lol. Ah, man. What a racket.

What should they be referred to as?

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

It’s our constitutional right to over throw the government.. democrats should be communist black listed

But please take note......

When democrats revoke your Constitutional Rights and threaten your life and liberty......

ANY and ALL action by you in response will be considered "criminal" and the force of the military will be levied against you.

I thought Obama revoked all of your rights already??

He didn't?

And before Obama, didn't Clinton revoke all of your rights??

He didn't either??


Or are you just being a hyperbolic bitch like reactionary conservatives have always been


Funny how when elected officials actually opine about taking away constitutional rights...you dick suckers are silent...

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

FOX is repeatedly referencing the kidnap plotters as militia members, too. lol. Ah, man. What a racket.

What should they be referred to as?

domestic terrorist works for me.....

 

[MarcATL]

Does it really matter? Both extreme sides are wrong and need cleansed. The further each side distances instead of excusing the better off we are. Antifa killed a store owner in St. Louis, enough of the violence, death and plotting. Condemn it all, no excuses, the only way to end it.

What's the name of the victim?

How many people have ANTIFA killed?

How many cities, or even towns have been burned to the ground?

Just the facts please.

 

[TNHarley]

There was nothing unjust about her and her locking down the state, and most of the people were in agreement with her.

Most Russians agreed with Stalin, too. Even though he was killing their family.
Fact is, many humans like being subservient. Like you.

 

[Oddball]

"The militia group is not identified in the court filing."

A few nutbars getting together to fantasize isn't much of a criminal conspiracy.

Translation: when it comes rightwing radicals...it's only a few guys fantasizing...when it comes to leftwing radicals, it's a coup.

Hear this every time.

Because we all know that the FBI would never ever use fake evidence and entrapment to set people up, in order to create a narrative...Amiright?

 

[buttercup]

These aren't militia. They're just criminals. And it's intellectual dishonesty to refer to them as such. But it's certainly strategic misrepresentation.

Absolutely strategic. The government/msm has been doing that for years, on purpose. And you and I both know why.

 

[Oddball]

"The militia group is not identified in the court filing."

A few nutbars getting together to fantasize isn't much of a criminal conspiracy.

Unless they are BLM or Antifa

BLM and Panitfa have actually conspired out in the open in social media, and the Keystone Kops at the FBI did absolutely zilch.

So pardon me if I'm as skeptical as fuck about this "conspiracy".

 

[Papageorgio]

Does it really matter? Both extreme sides are wrong and need cleansed. The further each side distances instead of excusing the better off we are. Antifa killed a store owner in St. Louis, enough of the violence, death and plotting. Condemn it all, no excuses, the only way to end it.

What's the name of the victim?

How many people have ANTIFA killed?

How many cities, or even towns have been burned to the ground?

Just the facts please.

Three died in CHOP, a couple in Portland, at least 30 to 40 this summer. What does it matter? I condemn all of the violence and the left and right. I see both extremes as dangerous to America. If you want to play the “we’re bad but they are worse” game go ahead and defend and justify. It is on you and those on the right and the left just like you.

 

[Oddball]

These aren't militia. They're just criminals. And it's intellectual dishonesty to refer to them as such. But it's certainly strategic misrepresentation.

From the piece...

The militia group is not identified in the court filing, but members periodically meet in remote areas of the state for firearms training and tactical drills.

Well, duh. Of course there's no militia identified. They aren't a militia. They're criminals. lol.

See Federalist #28 and #46, by Madison and Hamilton for a clear inderstanding on what a militia actually is as well as its legitimate function and how they're made applicable. Technically speaking, this is where the 'well regulated' confusion comes from, but that's a different topic.

And the BLM rioters aren't anarchists, either. They're just criminals, too. It's also intellectual dishonesty to refer to them as such. And, like the misrepresentation of the use of the term militia, the practice of referring to them as anarchists is also a strategic misrepresentation.

Both sides of the duopoly are guilty of blatantly and purposefully misrepresenting the terms of controversy with this kind of intellectually dishonest language.

Also from the piece...and this where relevance in the strategic misrepresentation is critical, looking forward...

"A threat against our Governor is a threat against us all," Senate Majority Leader Mike Shirkey, R-Clarklake, tweeted Wednesday afternoon. "We condemn those who plotted against her and our government. They are not patriots. There is no honor in their actions. They are criminals and traitors, and they should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law."

See the Whisky Rebellion for relevance. Two-fold relevancy, actually. Both in the tenor of Senate Majority Leader Mike Shirkey, R-Clarklake as well as the strategic misrepresentation of the criminals involved.

But, you see, there's a narrative that needs supporting, and dadgummit the federal police state spooks are going to give it their all to do so!

 

[TNHarley]

SWouldnt surprise me if she paid off some thugs to do it to garner sympathy for being branded a tyrant by the courts. Thats what tyrants do

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Does it really matter? Both extreme sides are wrong and need cleansed. The further each side distances instead of excusing the better off we are. Antifa killed a store owner in St. Louis, enough of the violence, death and plotting. Condemn it all, no excuses, the only way to end it.

What's the name of the victim?

How many people have ANTIFA killed?

How many cities, or even towns have been burned to the ground?

Just the facts please.

BLM has beaten, assaulted hundreds of people and killed several. Antifa is another worthless anti american group of excrement who burns and destroys property. Get your facts straight.

 

[Brain357]

More proof radical righties are very dangerous.