FBI stops militia plot to kidnap Gretchen Whitmer

[Redcurtain]

Wow this is awesome! Anyone against this your sick and hate America

Plans to kidnap Whitmer, overthrow government spoiled, officials say

The FBI says it thwarted what it described as a plot to violently overthrow the government and kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer

www.detroitnews.com

 

[TemplarKormac]

If I am to use the same attitude that you people used in regards to Trump catching the virus, I would say:

She deserved it for imposing such draconian lockdown orders on her population.

But if I am to be objective, unlike you, I would say:

These men deserve to be punished. This is not how you respond to unjust behavior by your leaders.

 

[westwall]

Wow this is awesome! Anyone against this your sick and hate America

Plans to kidnap Whitmer, overthrow government spoiled, officials say

The FBI says it thwarted what it described as a plot to violently overthrow the government and kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer

www.detroitnews.com

No, this, if true, was just stupid.

 

[Penelope]

Wow this is awesome! Anyone against this your sick and hate America

Plans to kidnap Whitmer, overthrow government spoiled, officials say

The FBI says it thwarted what it described as a plot to violently overthrow the government and kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer

www.detroitnews.com

Those are not patriots.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Awesome? NO.

ABSOLUTELY NOT.

 

[SavannahMann]

It's not just extreme right wingers. We aren't exactly living in relaxed, civil times in the battle of America vs China.

Remember this, China has the upper hand. The West has little mass support from the communists.

Actually the problem is that both sides believe the propaganda put out by their own side. If you honestly believe Trump is a Fascist. Truly believe that the Republicans are going full Fascist. Then nothing that you do is extreme in opposing them. If you honestly believe that the Communists or Socialist forces are going to take over. There is nothing worse than losing. Anything you do is justified in stopping them.

It is to the minds of the believers like having an opportunity to stop Hitler or Stalin before they commit the horrors we all know about from history. Anything is preferable to that. And that attitude has led humanity down the path of doom more than once. I call it learning the wrong lesson in history.

It is why I am not voting this year. Both sides are wrong. Both sides will lead us to ruination. Too many years of this propaganda has poisoned the nations soul.

 

[Penelope]

There was nothing unjust about her and her locking down the state, and most of the people were in agreement with her.

 

[shockedcanadian]

LOL...I doubt a bullshit "wouldn't it be great if" session constitutes a "plot" to kidnap Gretchen Whitmer.
The FBI lies...a lot. The Inspector General’s Report on 2016 FBI Spying Reveals a Scandal of Historic Magnitude: Not Only for the FBI but Also the U.S. Media

Their damaged credibility is not helped by these sorts of "crime busters" claims.

I don't know about the FBI, they always had a great reputation from what I've read. However, I know for certain Canadian policing is a racket designed for lies and misdirection. They've done such a horrible job (good for their bank accounts) that China AND Russia is operating ruthlessly in Canada, often for the purposes of a launching pad into the U.S.

The worst any officer can ever be is a liar and manipulator of facts. Not just morally, but also for the risk it creates when resources are applied to a problem that wouldn't have been without the "invisible guiding hand".

 

[Redcurtain]

Wow this is awesome! Anyone against this your sick and hate America

Plans to kidnap Whitmer, overthrow government spoiled, officials say

The FBI says it thwarted what it described as a plot to violently overthrow the government and kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer

www.detroitnews.com

No, this, if true, was just stupid.

It was probably a meme haha

 

[Redcurtain]

Wow this is awesome! Anyone against this your sick and hate America

Plans to kidnap Whitmer, overthrow government spoiled, officials say

The FBI says it thwarted what it described as a plot to violently overthrow the government and kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer

www.detroitnews.com

Those are not patriots.

Yes they are she is a communist

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

So, from the article, the "conspiracy" consists of:

• talked about setting up a society governed by the bill of rights, so conspiracy to secede from the U.S.? (but CHAZ actually did set up such an autonomous zone and NOTHING was done, no criminal charges brought)
• discussed potential ways to do it, including potential violent actions (again, see CHAZ)
• Reached out to other militia groups (the horror)
• ALLEGEDLY planned to target police but no evidence of that
• called Whitmer a "tyrant bitch" which is pretty much calling a spade a spade
• Said "we gotta do something" (the horror)
• Said "give me some ideas about what we can do" (the horror)
• ALLEGEDLY did surveillance on Whitmer's vacation home.

That a whole lot of meaningless, ambiguous shit for it to warrant the arrest of 12 people. Meanwhile, nobody from CHAZ who did the exact thing these guys only TALKED about MAYBE doing, will ever be arrested, much less prosecuted.

This looks like nothing more than political theater to me. And those militia groups are a favorite target (which is why I will never be linked to any).

 

[BULLDOG]

Wow this is awesome! Anyone against this your sick and hate America

Plans to kidnap Whitmer, overthrow government spoiled, officials say

The FBI says it thwarted what it described as a plot to violently overthrow the government and kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer

www.detroitnews.com

So the nut bags got tired of standing by like Trump told them to, or he told them to go ahead. I wonder which.

 

[Redcurtain]

Wow this is awesome! Anyone against this your sick and hate America

Plans to kidnap Whitmer, overthrow government spoiled, officials say

The FBI says it thwarted what it described as a plot to violently overthrow the government and kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer

www.detroitnews.com

So the nut bags got tired of standing by like Trump told them to, or he told them to go ahead. I wonder which.

Take your medication first then answer the question take a deep breath relax

 

[Natural Citizen]

These aren't militia. They're just criminals. And it's intellectual dishonesty to refer to them as such. But it's certainly strategic misrepresentation.

From the piece...

The militia group is not identified in the court filing, but members periodically meet in remote areas of the state for firearms training and tactical drills.

Well, duh. Of course there's no militia identified. They aren't a militia. They're criminals. lol.

See Federalist #28 and #46, by Madison and Hamilton for a clear inderstanding on what a militia actually is as well as its legitimate function and how they're made applicable. Technically speaking, this is where the 'well regulated' confusion comes from, but that's a different topic.

And the BLM rioters aren't anarchists, either. They're just criminals, too. It's also intellectual dishonesty to refer to them as such. And, like the misrepresentation of the use of the term militia, the practice of referring to them as anarchists is also a strategic misrepresentation.

Both sides of the duopoly are guilty of blatantly and purposefully misrepresenting the terms of controversy with this kind of intellectually dishonest language.

Also from the piece...and this where relevance in the strategic misrepresentation is critical, looking forward...

"A threat against our Governor is a threat against us all," Senate Majority Leader Mike Shirkey, R-Clarklake, tweeted Wednesday afternoon. "We condemn those who plotted against her and our government. They are not patriots. There is no honor in their actions. They are criminals and traitors, and they should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law."

See the Whisky Rebellion for relevance. Two-fold relevancy, actually. Both in the tenor of Senate Majority Leader Mike Shirkey, R-Clarklake as well as the strategic misrepresentation of the criminals involved.

 

[Dana7360]

The very violent far right radical extremists have been plotting to kidnap Governor Whitmer.

They planned, practiced and drilled on their plan to kidnap the governor and others in the Michigan government.

Our FBI and intelligence services are very correct. The number one threat in America is the far right.

Feds bust alleged plot to kidnap Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer

The FBI quoted one of the accused as saying Whitmer "has uncontrolled power right now. All good things must come to an end."

www.cbsnews.com

 

[depotoo]

Sounds like anarchists.
Glad they stopped them.

 

[Redcurtain]

This is absolutely hilarious. They arrested him for trying to gain explosives when Democrats have been throwing explosives at police officers for the past hundred days lol hahaha

 

[JustAGuy1]

The very violent far right radical extremists have been plotting to kidnap Governor Whitmer.

They planned, practiced and drilled on their plan to kidnap the governor and others in the Michigan government.

Our FBI and intelligence services are very correct. The number one threat in America is the far right.

Feds bust alleged plot to kidnap Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer

The FBI quoted one of the accused as saying Whitmer "has uncontrolled power right now. All good things must come to an end."

www.cbsnews.com

Throw the book at them, surely you feel the same about the far left folks stealing and burnig cities?
No because you are a hack

 

[Lovebears65]

Sounds to me someone got tired of her shit and her lock downs while she did what the hell she wanted.

 

[TemplarKormac]

There was nothing unjust about her and her locking down the state, and most of the people were in agreement with her.

Lol, the Supreme Court of Michigan disagrees with you.