Finally Trump will get 2 impeachments expunged

[berg80]

Nothing remotely "disgraced" to be vindicated by failed impeachments.

You do know Repub senators ignoring the overwhelming evidence of Trump's guilt by not voting to convict to protect their own political fortunes is not vindication, right?

 

[rightwinger]

Yes and Biden stole classified documents as a senator. He should be prosecuted for that.

You have evidence?
What were the documents?

 

[Lesh]

Wrong. Ex Presidents have privileges far beyond anyone else.

Like what?

 

[berg80]

Yes and Biden stole classified documents as a senator. He should be prosecuted for that.

There is an investigation underway as we speak.

 

[Rigby5]

Shokin was not investigating Burisma and Hunter Biden wasn't running it. I suppose you head is so full of shyte this won't matter but........

Trump Revives False Narrative on Biden and Ukraine - FactCheck.org

At a campaign rally in Iowa, President Trump cited an unsubstantiated news report to revive a widely debunked false narrative about Joe Biden's work in Ukraine on behalf of the Obama administration.

www.factcheck.org

Shokin was still a civil servant, Inspector General, who it was illegal to fire, even more illegal for a US VP to insist be fired, and illegal for a VP to withhold funds.
Those are sufficient crimes to jail Joe Biden.

As to Burisma Holdings and Hunter, who cares.
Since there never was an investigation, we will never know.
But clearly Hunter is sleazy, a criminal, and given millions for doing nothing.

 

[jknowgood]

Still regurgitating that bebunked lie? Shokin was fired because he WASN’T investigating Burisma, not because he was.

And Trump wasn’t trying to get an investigation of it all. Trump was trying to get them to announce a fake investigation to help his political chances.

Trump knew that a real investigation would find nothing. He just wanted the bump in the polls that the news of an investigation would give him.

Trump spent his entire Presidency investigating Hillary Clinton and appointed multiple special prosecutors to go after Democrats throughout his Presidency.

So far all you have is a guilty plea on two misdemeanour tax charges against someone who isn’t even a member of any Democratic administration.

$100 million spent investigating b the Clintons and b not a single charge filed.

Lol, Trump did not investigate Hillary. How many millions was spent on the Mueller investigation. They investigated it knowing it was a lie.

 

[Rigby5]

Hunter was on Burisma's board, he wasn't running the company.

Does not at all matter, since it was Hunter who was cashing the million dollar checks.

 

[jknowgood]

There is an investigation underway as we speak.

Lol, yeah right.

 

[Lesh]

And the hysterical record also shows it was a purely PARTISAN VOTE -- something Nazi Pelosi said she would do. But she is a Democrat and we all know about the he honesty of a Democrat

Both Impeachments got votes from both parties.

That means it was NOT “purely partisan “ and numerous GOP Senators gave lame excuses for their no votes even v though they admitted they believed he was guilty

 

[jknowgood]

You have evidence?
What were the documents?

He said it himself dumbass. He said he has had those documents for almost 50 years. You people are the most uninformed people on the planet.

 

[rightwinger]

Like what?

They get to bring their Secret Service to prison with them

 

[berg80]

Wrong. Ex Presidents have privileges far beyond anyone else.

They get a SS detail and ordinarily get intel briefings. But.......

WASHINGTON — President Biden said on Friday that he would bar his predecessor, Donald J. Trump, from receiving intelligence briefings traditionally given to former presidents, saying that Mr. Trump could not be trusted because of his “erratic behavior” even before the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol.

The move was the first time that a former president had been cut out of the briefings, which are provided partly as a courtesy and partly for the moments when a sitting president reaches out for advice. Currently, the briefings are offered on a regular basis to Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush and Barack Obama.

Biden Bars Trump From Receiving Intelligence Briefings, Citing ‘Erratic Behavior’ (Published 2021)

President Biden said there was “no need” for former President Donald J. Trump to get the briefings, traditionally given to ex-presidents as a courtesy and to keep them informed if their advice is needed.

www.nytimes.com

 

[rightwinger]

He said it himself dumbass. He said he has had those documents for almost 50 years. You people are the most uninformed people on the planet.

OK

If you plan on prosecuting, you better be able to identify what he took

You know…….something called “evidence”

Show us the documents

 

[Rigby5]

Hunter was paid $83k as a BOARD member jackass.

That is not how law works.
The governments of the Ukraine and the US are supposed to do the investigations and report the result to us.

Trump Revives False Narrative on Biden and Ukraine - FactCheck.org

At a campaign rally in Iowa, President Trump cited an unsubstantiated news report to revive a widely debunked false narrative about Joe Biden's work in Ukraine on behalf of the Obama administration.

www.factcheck.org

That is stupid.
You can't post obvious propaganda that claims something was "debunked" without supporting a thing.
The facts are clear.
The Ukraine has a democratically elected government before the 2014 US bribed military takeover that murdered over 30k people.
After 2014, the US was illegally stockpiling US missiles and trying to illegally join NATO.
The is proof positive.
There are dozens of other acts of war by the US and the Ukraine as well, that are well known to everyone.

 

[berg80]

even more illegal for a US VP to insist be fired

Ridiculous. The US, the IMF, and many EU countries put pressure on Ukraine to remove Shokin.

European and US officials pressed Ukraine to sack Viktor Shokin, the country’s former prosecutor-general, months before Joe Biden, the former US vice-president, personally intervened to force his removal, people involved in the talks said. Mr Biden did not act unilaterally nor did he instigate the push against Mr Shokin, despite suggestions to the contrary by supporters of US president Donald Trump, people familiar with the matter said.

Envoys pushed to oust Ukraine prosecutor before Biden

EU and US officials dispute Trump’s claim former vice-president acted to protect son

www.ft.com

 

[Rigby5]

Hunter was paid $83k as a BOARD member jackass.

And why should the Ukraine pay Hunter anything, since he did not do anything, know anything, ever go to the Ukraine, or help the Ukraine in any way?

 

[berg80]

That is not how law works.
The governments of the Ukraine and the US are supposed to do the investigations and report the result to us.


That is stupid.
You can't post obvious propaganda that claims something was "debunked" without supporting a thing.
The facts are clear.
The Ukraine has a democratically elected government before the 2014 US bribed military takeover that murdered over 30k people.
After 2014, the US was illegally stockpiling US missiles and trying to illegally join NATO.
The is proof positive.
There are dozens of other acts of war by the US and the Ukraine as well, that are well known to everyone.

Vladimir, is that you?

 

[Rigby5]

Ridiculous. The US, the IMF, and many EU countries put pressure on Ukraine to remove Shokin.

European and US officials pressed Ukraine to sack Viktor Shokin, the country’s former prosecutor-general, months before Joe Biden, the former US vice-president, personally intervened to force his removal, people involved in the talks said. Mr Biden did not act unilaterally nor did he instigate the push against Mr Shokin, despite suggestions to the contrary by supporters of US president Donald Trump, people familiar with the matter said.

Envoys pushed to oust Ukraine prosecutor before Biden

EU and US officials dispute Trump’s claim former vice-president acted to protect son

www.ft.com

And the US, IMF, and many EU counties are part of the corrupt colonial imperialists who illegal started both world wars, created NATO, and now took over the Ukraine in order to illegally get a nuclear first strike capability against Russia.

 

[berg80]

That is not how law works.
The governments of the Ukraine and the US are supposed to do the investigations and report the result to us.


That is stupid.
You can't post obvious propaganda that claims something was "debunked" without supporting a thing.
The facts are clear.
The Ukraine has a democratically elected government before the 2014 US bribed military takeover that murdered over 30k people.
After 2014, the US was illegally stockpiling US missiles and trying to illegally join NATO.
The is proof positive.
There are dozens of other acts of war by the US and the Ukraine as well, that are well known to everyone.

Trump repeatedly cites Biden’s January 2018 remarks as evidence that the former vice president pressured Ukraine to fire Shokin because he was investigating Burisma.

But, as we said, the evidence shows Biden was carrying out U.S. policy, and the United States was not alone in pressuring Ukraine to fire Shokin.

In February 2016, International Monetary Fund Managing Director Christine Lagarde threatened to withhold $40 billion unless Ukraine undertook “a substantial new effort” to fight corruption after the country’s economic minister and his team resigned to protest government corruption. That same month, a “reform-minded deputy prosecutor resigned, complaining that his efforts to address government corruption had been consistently stymied by his own prosecutor general, Viktor Shokin,” according to a Jan. 3, 2017, Congressional Research Service report.

“After President Poroshenko complained that Shokin was taking too long to clean up corruption even within the [Prosecutor General’s Office] itself, he asked for Shokin’s resignation,” the CRS report said. Shokin submitted his resignation in February 2016 and was removed a month later.

 

[berg80]

And the US, IMF, and many EU counties are part of the corrupt colonial imperialists who illegal started both world wars, created NATO, and now took over the Ukraine in order to illegally get a nuclear first strike capability against Russia.

Gosh, you're a real nutter.