Fire National Anthem Kneelers

[Fang]

The right to protest is guaranteed in the US Constitution. The protesters are not hurting anyone. They are not causing problems for anyone. They are protesting the actions against a minority. This "They are stomping on the flag!" and "They are pissing on the graves of every soldier who ever served" is just bullshit.

How many freaking times does this have to explained??? The right to protest while on the job is not guaranteed in the US Constitution. You won't get arrested, but you might get fired.

You might. It will depend on whether or not your contract says it explicitly or whether you were failing to perform your job while you were protesting. Neither of those apply here.

That's exactly the point. Depends on the player contracts and the NFL rules. In other words, the Constitution doesn't apply here.

 

[WinterBorn]

The right to protest is guaranteed in the US Constitution. The protesters are not hurting anyone. They are not causing problems for anyone. They are protesting the actions against a minority. This "They are stomping on the flag!" and "They are pissing on the graves of every soldier who ever served" is just bullshit.

How many freaking times does this have to explained??? The right to protest while on the job is not guaranteed in the US Constitution. You won't get arrested, but you might get fired.

You might. It will depend on whether or not your contract says it explicitly or whether you were failing to perform your job while you were protesting. Neither of those apply here.

That's exactly the point. Depends on the player contracts and the NFL rules. In other words, the Constitution doesn't apply here.

Since it is a constitutionally protected act, it does apply. It is not the only thing that applies. But it applies.

 

[bodecea]

The right to protest is guaranteed in the US Constitution. The protesters are not hurting anyone. They are not causing problems for anyone. They are protesting the actions against a minority. This "They are stomping on the flag!" and "They are pissing on the graves of every soldier who ever served" is just bullshit.

YOU are the bullshit, and everyone knows it (other than the airhead protestors).

1. Not all speech is free. Freedom of speech is the weakest part of the Constitution, and has numerous exceptions (sedition, slander, libel, abuse of elderly - FL statute 825.102, perjury, threats, inciting a riot, fighting words, disturbing the peace, etc. etc.

2. Of course they are hurting (everyone in America) - They're disrespecting the US military, the flag, and National Anthem, which represents the sacrifices of thousands of US military, alive now and who died to preserve the freedoms that these bonehead, spoiled brats now enjoy.

3. Actions against a minority ? So the Obama/Sharpton/Jackson race hustlers machine concocts a BS brew and you fall for it, huh ? Something tells me you're not that stupid.
I asked a local college football player (National Anthem kneeler) to tell me 3 case of police brutality against blacks. He cited 5.
Michael Brown & Darin Wilson........Betty Shelby & Terrence Crutcher......Pantaleo & Eric Garner.......Michael Slager & Walter Scott........Freddie Gray & the Baltimore 6.

4. many cases that blacks call "police brutality" are not that, and the argument stems from the blacks' (dangerous to them) ignorance of how to deal with police.
Examples - 1) Terrence Crutcher was shot because he allowed his hands to disappear from the view of the officer (inside the windows of his vehicle). 2) Philando Castile -shot when he reached into his jacket, taking his hands out of view. 3) Walter Scott didn't know that he could be legally shot for fleeing from a cop (Fleeing Felon Rule)

All cases that were justifiable police action. Dumbbell kneelers

The kneelers should be FIRED. People get fired from jobs every day, by the thousands, for things THEY SAY. In private industry there is no such thing as freedom of speech.

What do you want done to all those people in the stadium and at home who aren't standing during the Nat'l Anthem?

 

[WinterBorn]

The right to protest is guaranteed in the US Constitution. The protesters are not hurting anyone. They are not causing problems for anyone. They are protesting the actions against a minority. This "They are stomping on the flag!" and "They are pissing on the graves of every soldier who ever served" is just bullshit.

YOU are the bullshit, and everyone knows it (other than the airhead protestors).

1. Not all speech is free. Freedom of speech is the weakest part of the Constitution, and has numerous exceptions (sedition, slander, libel, abuse of elderly - FL statute 825.102, perjury, threats, inciting a riot, fighting words, disturbing the peace, etc. etc.

2. Of course they are hurting (everyone in America) - They're disrespecting the US military, the flag, and National Anthem, which represents the sacrifices of thousands of US military, alive now and who died to preserve the freedoms that these bonehead, spoiled brats now enjoy.

3. Actions against a minority ? So the Obama/Sharpton/Jackson race hustlers machine concocts a BS brew and you fall for it, huh ? Something tells me you're not that stupid.
I asked a local college football player (National Anthem kneeler) to tell me 3 case of police brutality against blacks. He cited 5.
Michael Brown & Darin Wilson........Betty Shelby & Terrence Crutcher......Pantaleo & Eric Garner.......Michael Slager & Walter Scott........Freddie Gray & the Baltimore 6.

4. many cases that blacks call "police brutality" are not that, and the argument stems from the blacks' (dangerous to them) ignorance of how to deal with police.
Examples - 1) Terrence Crutcher was shot because he allowed his hands to disappear from the view of the officer (inside the windows of his vehicle). 2) Philando Castile -shot when he reached into his jacket, taking his hands out of view. 3) Walter Scott didn't know that he could be legally shot for fleeing from a cop (Fleeing Felon Rule)

All cases that were justifiable police action. Dumbbell kneelers

The kneelers should be FIRED. People get fired from jobs every day, by the thousands, for things THEY SAY. In private industry there is no such thing as freedom of speech.

What do you want done to all those people in the stadium and at home who aren't standing during the Nat'l Anthem?

Or the people who leave their flag flying 24/7? Or the ones who don't retire the ragged flag?

Or even better, the people who wipe BBQ sauce off their mouths on the 4th of July with flag napkins.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

1) The Police are not hunting Black men, that is just racist demagoguery

2) 99.9% of the time Policemen only kill in self defense

3) Less than 1% of policemen killings result in a murder conviction. It's very rare.

4) Colon Kaepernick's is a disgruntled employee who is exploiting Left Wing hatred for the LEOs to get attention

5) More than half of the suspects who are killed by the Police are white, but the NFL Kneelers don't care about them, so that makes their "Protest" just straight-up racism.

 

[bodecea]

They want to insult the country let them do it on their own dime.

Just about sums up the sentiments of the majority of Americans.

True story.

Protesting police brutality is "insulting the country"? Not my country. I applaud anyone against police brutality. You maybe not so much.

 

[WinterBorn]

They want to insult the country let them do it on their own dime.

Just about sums up the sentiments of the majority of Americans.

True story.

Protesting police brutality is "insulting the country"? Not my country. I applaud anyone against police brutality. You maybe not so much.

Thank you.

 

[bodecea]

You have refuted nothing. Just like your claim that I was changing the subject was based on nothing.

But feel free to bail.

Before this thread, I thought you were a rather smart guy. Not any more.

Winterborn....aren't you devastated?

 

[MindWars]

Former Black Panther gives his take on the NFL kneeling controversy

Larry Pinkney To The NFL: ‘Get Off Your Knees’

 

[bodecea]

Did those jello heads think they could buy NIH .

OTL: Report lambasts NFL for vast overreach

The NFL is doing a great job of hanging itself. Losing popularity fast.

Don't watch if you don't want to.......I enjoy the NFL. GO BILLS!

 

[bodecea]

If you want to make a statement to the 'pro' players/entertainers, then stop watching ANYTHING they are part of. Contact the advertisers and let them know you will NOT buy any of their products. Tell your friends and family members what you are doing and why. When enough people stop 'feeding' the sponsors over the actions of a few and the money trail starts drying up, that is when you'll notice changes being made. Till then, it's the same 'ol same 'ol.

Good luck with that.......

 

[MindWars]

There is the excuse to " USE THE CONSTITUTION" but it doesn't excuse the DISRESPECT given to all those who fought for these assholes to even do this.

THEY ARE LOSERS and so is any other asshole who uses the Constitution as a weapon and uses it to let them get away with this bs.




Don't like it too bad.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

The NFL Kneelers should protest some real social justice issues:
1) 5 to 1 Black to White murder ratio
2) 6000 to 1 Black to White rape ratio
3) 20,000 to 1 Black to White armed robbery ratio

 

[bodecea]

1) The Police are not hunting Black men, that is just racist demagoguery

2) 99.9% of the time Policemen only kill in self defense

3) Less than 1% of policemen killings result in a murder conviction. It's very rare.

4) Colon Kaepernick's is a disgruntled employee who is exploiting Left Wing hatred for the LEOs to get attention

5) More than half of the suspects who are killed by the Police are white, but the NFL Kneelers don't care about them, so that makes their "Protest" just straight-up racism.

It's not just black people, you know......with the advent of the cell phone video camera, we are finding that police brutality is a real problem....just look at some of the videos posted on YouTube......time to recognize it as a problem.

 

[WinterBorn]

You have refuted nothing. Just like your claim that I was changing the subject was based on nothing.

But feel free to bail.

Before this thread, I thought you were a rather smart guy. Not any more.

Winterborn....aren't you devastated?

Heartbroken!

 

[WinterBorn]

The NFL Kneelers should protest some real social justice issues:
1) 5 to 1 Black to White murder ratio
2) 6000 to 1 Black to White rape ratio
3) 20,000 to 1 Black to White armed robbery ratio

And the man you want to demonize has spent hundreds of thousands (millions?) of dollars of his own money trying to help.

 

[Joe Hunt Deer]

Most of our police are coming out/ from the military today .
I think this is a bad ideal for our high crime neighborhoods .

 

[WinterBorn]

Most of our police are coming out/ from the military today .
I think this is a bad ideal for our high crime neighborhoods .

The militarization of the civilian police forces is a huge mistake.

 

[Mac1958]

So this kneeling stuff is still a thing, is it?

 

[Joe Hunt Deer]

Most of our police are coming out/ from the military today .
I think this is a bad ideal for our high crime neighborhoods .

The militarization of the civilian police forces is a huge mistake.

My brother son is a MP ( air force ) and when he comes out, he's going to be a cop .