First insurrectionist removed from office under 14th amendment

[Papageorgio]

Judge removes Griffin from office for engaging in the January 6 insurrection - CREW | Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington

A New Mexico judge ordered Otero County Commissioner Couy Griffin be removed from office, effective immediately.

www.citizensforethics.org

SANTA FE — A New Mexico judge ordered Otero County Commissioner Couy Griffin be removed from office, effective immediately, ruling that the attack on the Capitol was an insurrection and that Griffin’s participation in it disqualified him under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. This decision marks the first time since 1869 that a court has disqualified a public official under Section 3, and the first time that any court has ruled the events of January 6, 2021 an insurrection.

Mr Griffin will go down in infamy as a result of this. Children in Dem states will learn his name. Perhaps not in GOP states.

Who was the person removed in 1869?

 

[Slade3200]

Of course, it's a serious point you airhead. The justice dept jailing people based on politics, while letting all their likeminded ones go. Hie stupid can you be ?

If it was a Republican DOJ, and only Republicans were released, while just leftists were jailed, you'd be screaming bloody murder, and you know it.

Nobody was jailed for political beliefs. They were hail for committing crimes. It’s a law and order thing

 

[scruffy]

I’m sure you believe that but I’m reality you’re just an over emotional parrot reacting to headlines

Did or did not the asshole judge issue his decision?

 

[USAF 2023]

No one cares what you think, foreigner.

He should pay attention to the filth in his own backyard

 

[Slade3200]

Did or did not the asshole judge issue his decision?

Haha, the judge did issue a decision… very good! What’s your point?

 

[Chillicothe]

"The justice dept jailing people based on politics, while letting all their likeminded ones go."

Is that a thing?
Widespread?
How widespread?
Can you offer credible details that persuades this is really a thing?

 

[Captain Caveman]

I was born here... hence I'm a native of the USA.

Google native before you look more ridiculous

Which tribe are you from

Here's a link to help you -

Native Americans in the United States - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[martybegan]

Well if you are in reality then show me a real definition that say what you claim. I just showed a definition and a law that backs up my claims. If you want to refute it then you need to post evidence not hot air

You showed a definition that has nothing to do with what is actually legally an insurrection in the US code.

Again, since NO ONE WAS CHARGED WITH INSURRECTION, it wasn't one.

 

[Slade3200]

You showed a definition that has nothing to do with what is actually legally an insurrection in the US code.

Again, since NO ONE WAS CHARGED WITH INSURRECTION, it wasn't one.

The us code that we both posted says nothing about overthrowing the government. Can you show anything that says that besides your hot air?

Would you say that the guy arrested for arson during the summer protests was a rioter or not?

 

[martybegan]

The us code that we both posted says nothing about overthrowing the government. Can you show anything that says that besides your hot air?

Would you say that the guy arrested for arson during the summer protests was a rioter or not?

They committed arson during a riot, but a riot isn't something punished by not being able to run for office. An insurrection is, according to the US Constitution so you have better be sure it's an actual insurrection, and not some event called such by political hacks such as yourself to disqualify opponents.

That's what it all boils down to.

 

[Slade3200]

They committed arson during a riot, but a riot isn't something punished by not being able to run for office. An insurrection is, according to the US Constitution so you have better be sure it's an actual insurrection, and not some event called such by political hacks such as yourself to disqualify opponents.

That's what it all boils down to.

A riot is a riot. Some people get charged with arson and it’s still a riot. Same thing with the insurrection. Why is this so hard for you to understand?

 

[Slade3200]

They committed arson during a riot, but a riot isn't something punished by not being able to run for office. An insurrection is, according to the US Constitution so you have better be sure it's an actual insurrection, and not some event called such by political hacks such as yourself to disqualify opponents.

That's what it all boils down to.

You still havent shown one source that says it’s about overthrowing the government

 

[martybegan]

A riot is a riot. Some people get charged with arson and it’s still a riot. Same thing with the insurrection. Why is this so hard for you to understand?

Because an insurrection is a form of riot, that involves attempts to abrogate the authority of the government in question in the area in question.

And since insurrections and rebellions have proscribed penalties, ones your side seems to want to impose to eliminate political opposition, one get the obvious reason your side calls this an insurrection, wrongly.

 

[martybegan]

You still havent shown one source that says it’s about overthrowing the government

It's about abrogating government authority in a given area in actuality, such as Shay's rebellion.

A one day protest that turned into a riot isn't an insurrection.

 

[Slade3200]

Because an insurrection is a form of riot, that involves attempts to abrogate the authority of the government in question in the area in question.

And since insurrections and rebellions have proscribed penalties, ones your side seems to want to impose to eliminate political opposition, one get the obvious reason your side calls this an insurrection, wrongly.

Would you say there was a riot at the capital on Jan 6?

 

[ABikerSailor]

It's about abrogating government authority in a given area in actuality, such as Shay's rebellion.

A one day protest that turned into a riot isn't an insurrection.

There is no time limit on insurrection. Here is the definition of it as it applies to the US.

18 U.S. Code § 2383 - Rebellion or insurrection

www.law.cornell.edu

18 U.S. Code § 2383 - Rebellion or insurrection​

• U.S. Code
• Notes

Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(L), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

As you can see, it doesn't specify how long it has to last, and it doesn't say that it has to be a full blown riot either. Simply setting foot, assisting or engaging against the authority of the US or it's laws is sufficient. And, those protesters who showed up at the capitol were engaging against the authority of the US since they wanted to kick out Biden and put Trump back in place, as well as hang both Pence and Pelosi for not invalidating the election and getting rid of Biden. Yes, it was an insurrection.

 

[martybegan]

Would you say there was a riot at the capital on Jan 6?

I'd call part of it a riot, mostly outside where there was interaction between police and people. Most of the stuff inside except at that door was people walking around.

 

[martybegan]

There is no time limit on insurrection. Here is the definition of it as it applies to the US.

18 U.S. Code § 2383 - Rebellion or insurrection

www.law.cornell.edu

18 U.S. Code § 2383 - Rebellion or insurrection​

• U.S. Code
• Notes

Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(L), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

As you can see, it doesn't specify how long it has to last, and it doesn't say that it has to be a full blown riot either. Simply setting foot, assisting or engaging against the authority of the US or it's laws is sufficient. And, those protesters who showed up at the capitol were engaging against the authority of the US since they wanted to kick out Biden and put Trump back in place, as well as hang both Pence and Pelosi for not invalidating the election and getting rid of Biden. Yes, it was an insurrection.

The thing is there was NOTHING they could do to actually stop Biden, who wasn't being sworn in for weeks. The government at the time was still Trump.

A few people chanted hang X and of course you take it literally to suit your desire to silence your political opponents.

Meanwhile we should ignore slogans like All Cops are Bastards because they are just venting their anger.

You. are. a. fucking. hack. hypocrite. twat.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Which tribe are you from

Here's a link to help you -

Native Americans in the United States - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

the natives were not from here either dumbass.

 

[Faun]

I'd call part of it a riot, mostly outside where there was interaction between police and people. Most of the stuff inside except at that door was people walking around.

It was just "people walking around" inside only because Congress was fully and safely evacuated. For some in that mob, their intent was far more sinister than just taking a stroll through the halls of Congress.