First insurrectionist removed from office under 14th amendment

[martybegan]

Haha, at least you’re feeling a taste of the flip side. But let’s get back to your riot statement. Was anybody charged with rioting on Jan 6? Can you show who and how many?

Is rioting a federal crime?

 

[Faun]

Unarmed woman. She could have been bound and arrested, instead she was shot.

Still not following standard guidelines for the use of deadly force.

Matters not if she was armed or not. It's a reasonable assumption she was. Again, she was part of a mob trying to break into the House chamber. That violent mob was the weapon.

And again, 3 independent investigations determined shooting her was justifiable.

 

[Slade3200]

Is rioting a federal crime?

Yes

18 U.S. Code § 2101 - Riots

www.law.cornell.edu

 

[martybegan]

Matters not if she was armed or not. It's a reasonable assumption she was. Again, she was part of a mob trying to break into the House chamber. That violent mob was the weapon.

And again, 3 independent investigations determined shooting her was justifiable.

What reasonable assumption? Good god that's a fucking stretch.

"The violent mob was the weapon"? Another one.

3 rubber stamps rubber stamped.

 

[martybegan]

Yes

18 U.S. Code § 2101 - Riots

www.law.cornell.edu

That's about setting up a riot, not the rioting itself.

 

[Faun]

What reasonable assumption? Good god that's a fucking stretch.

"The violent mob was the weapon"? Another one.

3 rubber stamps rubber stamped.

A violent mob is a threat that some can be armed.

And yes, the mob was a weapon. They had almost broken through those doors when Benedict Babbitt got herself shot.

 

[j-mac]

A violent mob is a threat that some can be armed.

And yes, the mob was a weapon. They had almost broken through those doors when Benedict Babbitt got herself shot.

IT WAS A SETUP! FBI Admits Jan. 6 Was Deep State Operation - They Were Running At Least One Operative in the Crowd at the US Capitol (VIDEO) | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft

American Stasi The FBI admitted on Friday to The New York Times that they had informants and operatives inside groups attending the January 6 rallies in Washington DC.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

 

[martybegan]

A violent mob is a threat that some can be armed.

And yes, the mob was a weapon. They had almost broken through those doors when Benedict Babbitt got herself shot.

Again, nothing you are saying is actually in the proscribed rules about using deadly force by federal agents. It just shows the "independent" reviews were whitewashes.

 

[Faun]

IT WAS A SETUP! FBI Admits Jan. 6 Was Deep State Operation - They Were Running At Least One Operative in the Crowd at the US Capitol (VIDEO) | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft

American Stasi The FBI admitted on Friday to The New York Times that they had informants and operatives inside groups attending the January 6 rallies in Washington DC.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

So?

 

[j-mac]

So?

So?

 

[Slade3200]

That's about setting up a riot, not the rioting itself.

Setting up a riot is part of it... So is participating in... See bold


(a)Whoever travels in interstate or foreign commerce or uses any facility of interstate or foreign commerce, including, but not limited to, the mail, telegraph, telephone, radio, or television, with intent—
(1)
to incite a riot; or
(2)
to organize, promote, encourage, participate in, or carry on a riot; or
(3)
to commit any act of violence in furtherance of a riot; or
(4)
to aid or abet any person in inciting or participating in or carrying on a riot or committing any act of violence in furtherance of a riot;
and who either during the course of any such travel or use or thereafter performs or attempts to perform any other overt act for any purpose specified in subparagraph (A), (B), (C), or (D) of this paragraph— [1]
Shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

 

[martybegan]

Setting up a riot is part of it... So is participating in... See bold


(a)Whoever travels in interstate or foreign commerce or uses any facility of interstate or foreign commerce, including, but not limited to, the mail, telegraph, telephone, radio, or television, with intent—
(1)
to incite a riot; or
(2)
to organize, promote, encourage, participate in, or carry on a riot; or
(3)
to commit any act of violence in furtherance of a riot; or
(4)
to aid or abet any person in inciting or participating in or carrying on a riot or committing any act of violence in furtherance of a riot;
and who either during the course of any such travel or use or thereafter performs or attempts to perform any other overt act for any purpose specified in subparagraph (A), (B), (C), or (D) of this paragraph— [1]
Shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

Again, setup and crossing state lines to do it.

 

[Faun]

Again, nothing you are saying is actually in the proscribed rules about using deadly force by federal agents. It just shows the "independent" reviews were whitewashes.

The mob, with Ashes Targetpractice in front, came within feet of the House chamber where some members of Congress & staff were still inside. Moments earlier, that mob spotted a Congressman being escorted out through the Speaker's Lobby, which inspired someone to yell, "they're getting away!" At which time, the mob started beating down the doors/windows even though there were police between them and the doors. The moment they penetrated that barrier, they became an imminent threat to the lawmakers on the other side of that door. Police yelled to get back but Ashes ignored the warning. Too bad.

 

[Faun]

So?

That's what I asked you. You have no answer?

 

[Slade3200]

Again, setup and crossing state lines to do it.

No Marty... it is Set up OR... not AND. Setting up OR participating in.... Crossing state lines is what makes it a federal crime. So yes participating in a riot is a Federal crime. You claimed it happened at the capital on Jan 6 yet you can't show an arrest of anybody charged with rioting. People were arrested for the violent or destructive acts they committed. And we all know it was a riot. We don't need a Riot charge.

Why are you allowed to then call it a riot and I'm not allowed to call it an insurrection. You are doing the same exact thing im doing. Only difference is you are making up a fake definition of Insurrection that you can 't back up and I'm using the actual definition which is exactly what happened at the capital.

 

[martybegan]

The mob, with Ashes Targetpractice in front, came within feet of the House chamber where some members of Congress & staff were still inside. Moments earlier, that mob spotted a Congressman being escorted out through the Speaker's Lobby, which inspired someone to yell, "they're getting away!" At which time, the mob started beating down the doors/windows even though there were police between them and the doors. The moment they penetrated that barrier, they became an imminent threat to the lawmakers on the other side of that door. Police yelled to get back but Ashes ignored the warning. Too bad.

And yet only one officer fired, even though much more heavily armed officers were intermingled with the supposed "mob" in question.

 

[martybegan]

No Marty... it is Set up OR... not AND. Setting up OR participating in.... Crossing state lines is what makes it a federal crime. So yes participating in a riot is a Federal crime. You claimed it happened at the capital on Jan 6 yet you can't show an arrest of anybody charged with rioting. People were arrested for the violent or destructive acts they committed. And we all know it was a riot. We don't need a Riot charge.

Why are you allowed to then call it a riot and I'm not allowed to call it an insurrection. You are doing the same exact thing im doing. Only difference is you are making up a fake definition of Insurrection that you can 't back up and I'm using the actual definition which is exactly what happened at the capital.

The thing is they probably didn't use the law because DC isn't a State.


The difference is you want to call it an insurrection to make it seem worse than it was, and think you can be slick and deny anyone involved in it the ability to run for office.

And yet no one is charged under the insurrection code even though it is available.

 

[Faun]

And yet only one officer fired, even though much more heavily armed officers were intermingled with the supposed "mob" in question.

He was the only cop in position to shoot with the least possibility of hitting someone else.

 

[martybegan]

He was the only cop in position to shoot with the least possibility of hitting someone else.

He fired at her towards a room with other police officers, who were intermingled with the people in question, including Babbit.

The pictures taken immediately after the shooting show this.

 

[Faun]

The thing is they probably didn't use the law because DC isn't a State.


The difference is you want to call it an insurrection to make it seem worse than it was, and think you can be slick and deny anyone involved in it the ability to run for office.

And yet no one is charged under the insurrection code even though it is available.

Sedition is the planning or incitement of insurrection. Many of Trump's thugs were charged with seditious conspiracy. I don't rather see them charged with seditious conspiracy than insurrection because the penalty is double the maximum prison sentence.