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You write this stuff about Mrs. Obama as if you never realized that her predecessors did the very same things.
During the week of June 21-27, 2011, Mrs. Obama and a 21-person entourage went on a so-called "good-will mission" to South Africa and Botswana. The trip's transportation expenses alone cost U.S. taxpayers at least $424,142. That figure does not include costs for food, lodging, and ground transportation. According to "White House sources" cited by The Daily Mail in August 2011, Mrs. Obama may have spent as much as $10 million on vacations during the preceding year.
All due respect Foxy, but it is true. When women demanded the vote, the issue should have been a slam dunk. But resistance to an idea we all take for granted today was supplied by Comservatives. And they kept up the resistance through the effort to ratify the ERA. Was Phyllis Schlafly a Liberal?women demand the vote. And Conservatives provide the resistance. Was that a constitutional crisis, or good old fashioned sexism? Blacks demand equal treatment under law. And Conservatives provide the resistance. Were grave constitutional issues at stake, or was it good old fashioned bigotry? Our workplaces became dangerous with the advent of mass industrialization. Workers demanded workplace safety regulations. Was it considered unconstitutional to promote the general welfare? Or was it the greedy side of Conservatism that provided the resistance.Conservatives are wired that way, just as Liberals are hardwired that way.
From birth.
Right now there is an imbalance in our country and the Conservatives are being forced to exhibit their natural tendencies when they sense things going wrong.
They (we) seek to conserve what is important.
Why can't kids have cake and candy to eat every day three meals a day?
Because that is just too much of an imbalance.
Always remember what Mr. Miyagi advised.
Mr. Miyagi - Balance - YouTube
You Progressives want to change the interpretation of the Constitution from the Founder's meaning to racist President Woodrow Wilson's Progressive meaning. And you've just gone too damn far to the Left.
Constitution 101 - Part 1 - Lecture - Hillsdale College Online Courses
"The Progressives rejected the Founders principles...in order to expand the size and scope of government far beyond the Founders intent."
We are Conservatives because we are built to conserve what is good and in this case the good aspects of our Republic according to the FOUNDER'S INTENT.
You guys are just too far extreme.
But instead of calling us Conservatives maybe it would be easier for you to ease up on your push to oblivion if you thought of us as...
Balance.
Did the founding fathers provide means to amend the constitution whenever necessary? Or are you so sutured to a narrow idea of what the founders intended that you won't be happy until we are once again living under conditions that were prevailant in1789? No paved roads, rum used as an anesthetic and cholera outbreaks a normal summer phenomenon.
Don't hide behind the skirts of the founding fathers unless you are able to embrace all of their philosophies. Today's Rabid Rightwinger eschews statesmanship and compromise, even Ashe embraces a document that would be impossible to draft without statesmanship and compromise. Facet hearth. Conservatives have no real motivation to champion any causes for freedom, justice and equality. Conservatives never have, never will and will always put up a fight against civil rights and equal justice. I guess they are just wired that way.
Nosmo, I love you dearly but this is positively absurd. Even considering the differences in definitions of 'conservative' and 'liberal' of 100 or 200 years ago, I daresay you can provide no historical evidence to back up your opinion here which smacks of pure hateful, judgmental partisan hatefulness. Not appropriate on a thread devoted to a call for civility and honesty in our descriptions of our fellow human beings.
Jackie Kennedy might have been the mainstream's ideal wife simply because she conveniently ignored her husband's serial and perhaps criminal infidelity. The media was fully aware of Jack Kennedy's adulterous relationships so Jackie must have known that her husband couldn't keep his fly zipped. It's always open season for the mainstream media to attack republican politicians and their families. President Bush's daughters were targets for left wing investigative reporting and Sara Palin's family was the subject of left wing soap operas but the low information left seems acutely sensitive to the slightest criticism of Hussein Obama's family.
Oh who are you kidding....the right has insulted each and every Democratic President and their family.....what's even worse, the right tries to go and find something to discredit them with and impeach them.....fortunately, their idiotic tactics don't get them anywhere, all they end up doing is spending taxpayer money with their wild goose chases and then they whine and bitch about how much money is being spent.....
You write this stuff about Mrs. Obama as if you never realized that her predecessors did the very same things.
During the week of June 21-27, 2011, Mrs. Obama and a 21-person entourage went on a so-called "good-will mission" to South Africa and Botswana. The trip's transportation expenses alone cost U.S. taxpayers at least $424,142. That figure does not include costs for food, lodging, and ground transportation. According to "White House sources" cited by The Daily Mail in August 2011, Mrs. Obama may have spent as much as $10 million on vacations during the preceding year.
Michelle Obama - Discover the Networks
Like THIS???
Mrs. Obama may have spent as much as $10 million on vacations during the preceding year.
And she ain't even married to Sherman Hemsley!
She doesn't want to be trashed she should stay home and raise her children instead of seeking out the spotlight as if she is our queen of the country
SNIP:
Michelle Obama becoming the most televised first lady
By Bree Tracey
Published April 22, 2012
April 11, 2012: In this photo provided by Comedy Central, first lady Michelle Obama laughs with Stephen Colbert during her appearance on The Colbert Report.AP
In a recent interview, Stephen Colbert asked first lady Michelle Obama which show "has more gravitas as a broadcaster" -- The Colbert Report or iCarly.
The funny man wasn't just fishing for compliments. He was pointing out that the first lady is just about everywhere, from Comedy Central to Nickelodeon.
Lately, Michelle Obama is no stranger to television entertainment. She's already outpaced past first ladies, like Laura Bush and Hillary Clinton, in the number of TV appearances she's made over the first four years of a president's term.
Dan Gainor, of the Media Research Center, said Michelle Obama really is "off the charts" in the number of times she's appeared in entertainment television cameos, even more so "than I dare say many big name actors and actresses."
In just the last four months, viewers have seen Obama do push-ups with Ellen DeGeneres, play tug o' war with Jimmy Fallon, laugh along with Jay Leno and David Letterman, dance on Disney's "iCarly," work out with "The Biggest Loser" contestants at the White House, appear at the BET Honors, smile on "Sesame Street" and chat about healthy school lunches with Rachael Ray.
Whether the appearances are sincere or just political is up for debate. Democratic political strategist Doug Schoen suggested they were a little bit of both.
Michelle Obama becoming the most televised first lady | Fox News
Doug Schoen has not been a Democrat since 1988. He is a Conservative these days, one o the worst types. And this is typical of FOX news to lie about someone's political affiliation.
The last time Doug Schoen actually supported a Democrat was in 1976-1980.
Nice try, FOX. Gotcha.
Well HE claims to be a Democratic strategist and has worked for the Democratic Party--never for the Republicans. Where are you getting your information?
From Schoen's own website
Douglas E. Schoen has been one of the most influential Democratic campaign consultants for over thirty years. A founding partner and principle strategist for Penn, Schoen & Berland, he is widely recognized as one of the co-inventors of overnight polling. - See more at: Douglas E. Schoen - Author of Hopelessly Divided
He worked for Evan Bayh's campaign. You want to call him a Republican?
I must concede. Michelle is pretty elegant and graceful. She puts these other two ladies to shame:
But you are correct in one thing. She is quite graceful and elegant.
So that isn't Michelle in the picture? Who is it then?
You're trying too hard.
Okay. My bad. Deep breath ... exhale ... relax ... So that isn't Michelle in the picture? Who is it then?
Jackie Kennedy might have been the mainstream's ideal wife simply because she conveniently ignored her husband's serial and perhaps criminal infidelity. The media was fully aware of Jack Kennedy's adulterous relationships so Jackie must have known that her husband couldn't keep his fly zipped. It's always open season for the mainstream media to attack republican politicians and their families. President Bush's daughters were targets for left wing investigative reporting and Sara Palin's family was the subject of left wing soap operas but the low information left seems acutely sensitive to the slightest criticism of Hussein Obama's family.
Oh who are you kidding....the right has insulted each and every Democratic President and their family.....what's even worse, the right tries to go and find something to discredit them with and impeach them.....fortunately, their idiotic tactics don't get them anywhere, all they end up doing is spending taxpayer money with their wild goose chases and then they whine and bitch about how much money is being spent.....
rw hate, because of their shellacking in 2012 no doubt, is boiling over in this thread
I have seen a lot of nasty stuff written about First Lady Michelle Obama in the last 6 years, it's pretty damned ugly and stupid, too.
There is even an ultra-whackazoid website dedicated to trashing her every move. I think it is called "Michelle's Mirror".
To combat this insanity, I want to take second and reflect on who our First Ladies have been and to say quite openly that I, as a Democrat, have liked all of the ones I have encountered live AND those over whom I have read a great deal.
A lot of shit has been thrown around over the costs incurred by First Ladies, but virtually all of them have incurred costs - this is very natural and EXPECTED perk that comes with the Presidency, and Presidents of both parties have made full use of this perk.
Currently, next to our current FLOTUS, Michelle Obama, there are five former First Ladies still living, thank goodness:
Former First Lady Laura Bush (2001-2009), former First Lady Hillary Clinton (1993-2001), Former First Lady Barbara Bush (1989-1993) and former First Lady Rosalyn Carter (1977-1981). Not pictured: Nancy Reagan.
Each one of these ladies is a model of grace and excellence and kindness in her own unique way.
Maybe it would help were people to do less bitching and more reading. Want to know how the title as we know it came into being? Then read here:
First Lady of the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Here is a complete listing of the FLOTUSes throughout our nation's history:
List of First Ladies of the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Within the wiki is also a pretty good description of what a FLOTUS does:
The First Lady of the United States is the hostess of the White House. The position is traditionally filled by the wife of the president of the United States, but, on occasion, the title has been applied to women who were not presidents wives, such as when the president was a bachelor or widower, or when the wife of the president was unable to fulfill the duties of the First Lady herself. The First Lady is not an elected position; it carries no official duties and receives no salary. Nonetheless, she attends many official ceremonies and functions of state either along with or in place of the president. Traditionally, the First Lady does not hold outside employment while occupying the office.[1] She has her own staff, including the White House Social Secretary, the Chief of Staff, the Press Secretary, the Chief Floral Designer, and the Executive Chef. The Office of the First Lady is also in charge of all social and ceremonial events of the White House, and is a branch of the Executive Office of the President.
According to the White House and the National First Ladies' Library, there have been forty-six First Ladies and forty-seven First Ladyships. This discrepancy exists because Grover Cleveland served two non-consecutive terms and is counted chronologically as both the twenty-second and the twenty-fourth president; his wife Frances Folsom Cleveland is also counted twice.
The White House website keeps bios of all of our First Ladies:
The First Ladies | The White House
And here is also a very good website for such:
First Ladies of the United States
There is a lot of GOOD material about our First Ladies from the above links. I would recommend that you begin reading to see what interesting and unique and wonderful individuals they were.
I will start contributing material about each FLOTUS over the course of the year.
But right now, I would like to say some kind (and historically accurate) things about First Ladies within most peoples' living memory.
Being born in 1963, the first FLOTUS I have in memory is Ladybird Johnson, but Jackie Onassis (formerly Kennedy) was still quite on the scene and very beloved.
Jackie Kennedy was a model of charm and grace an genteel-ness. I cannot imagine any person in the world wanting to say something nasty about that woman. Alone, having to bear the grief and loss of her husband, John Kennedy, should be enough to simply honor her and her fine memory.
Ladybird Johnson (Claudia Taylor Johnson) was a great lover of nature and she brought that love of nature with her into both the Vice-President's mansion and then into the White House. She is probably best known for her involvement in Head-Start for Pre-K kids.
Pat Nixon was a former High School teacher and lover of theater. In fact, she and Dick Nixon were cast in the same play and there they met and fell in love with each other. As FLOTUS, Pat Nixon worked tirelessly to get people to do volunteer service. She is also probably best known for inviting tons of people to non-denomination ecumenical church services every Sunday.
Betty Ford is one of my favorite First Ladies. Like Gerald Ford, she was a "lucky accident" for our nation. She was Gerald Ford's guiding hand in many matters. The two truly loved each other right through their last days on earth. She had to undergo breast cancer in 1974, and by going public about her cancer, she embolded a lot of women to get themselves checked out. Who knows how many lives Betty Ford saved by simply being an advocate for preventative medicine. Betty Ford also did our nation a big service by coming out as an ex-First Lady and admitting her own alcoholism - again, breaking a lot of tabus. Who knows how many lives Betty Ford may have saved by having been an advocate for getting treatment for alcoholism. And the Betty Ford clinic is still open today. What an incredible woman she was. I also believe that Betty Ford was the first FLOTUS ever to appear on a TV sitcom (or two). I believe she did a neat cameo either in the Bob Newhart show or the Mary Tyler Moore show - or both.
Rosalyn Carter tends to be forgotten some, mostly because she was a very quiet person. A skilled speaker, but a quiet, genteel person with a love of the fine arts, for which she advocated. Both she and then Second-Lady Joan Mondale were great lovers of the fine arts. I would wager that you cannot find even one mean or sour quote from Rosalyn Carter, who, like her husband, is a born-again Christian (Southern Baptist).
Nancy Reagan was the second divorcee in a row, after Betty Ford, to have married a future President in her second marriage. Those two lovely women together broke the tabu that a First Lady somehow could not be a divorcee. Considered aloof by many people, Nancy was anything but aloof. She was an intensely concentrated person and spent tons of time behind the scenes helping veterans and the homeless. She supported the foster Grandparent Program and wrote a book about it in 1982, the year I graduated from High School. She is probably best known for her "Just say no" to drugs program. I always liked and respected her.
Many saw Barbara Bush as the grandmother whom everyone wanted to have in their family. Barbara Bush advocated strongly for literacy programs. VERY STRONGLY. She was the first FLOTUS to advocate for public awareness about HIV/AIDS. I adore Barbara Bush and hopes she still lives a very long time.
With Hillary Clinton, a lot of "molds" were broken, or perhaps re-introduced. Hillary was on the campaign trail in 1992 for her husband Bill more than any other First Lady in our history. She made the first real attempts at Health Care Reform. Like Nancy Reagan before her, Mrs. Clinton wrote a book: "It takes a Village" (1996), for which she received a Grammy. She was and still is a strong advocate for women's issues. And of course, she is the only FLOTUS in history to go on to become a US Senator, a serious Presidential candidate, a Secretary of State and a likely presidential candidate again. I don't think that any FLOTUS in history has as high a name recognition or public profile like Hillary Clinton.
Laura Bush is one of the most charming FLOTUSes I have ever seen up close. I even got to shake her hand once. A truly nice person. Laura was the key force behind then President Bush's "No Child left behind" program. Laura Bush was a main supporter of women's rights in Afghanistan. She is the first FLOTUS ever to give the President's weekly radio address (November, 2001). Laura Bush is the most travelled FLOTUS in history, having visited all 50 states on behalf on the President and 73 foreign countries. She was on a foreign trip for 212 days out of her husband's 2-term presidency, a lot of it in Africa, having advocated for AIDS prevention and hunger prevention, causes that President Bush himself took up, to his great credit. In spite of all sort of partisan strife from 2001-2009, I found Laura Bush to be a class act. Just as I find the current FLOTUS.
I think that history will smile upon Michelle Obama for her "let's move" program to combat obesity, a real problem in the USA, and worldwide. Really not much more to say about her, she he is often in the news, as most FLOTUSes are during their time in the White House.
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It's time for people to stop snarking about and attacking our current FLOTUS. She is doing nothing that other FLOTUSes have not done. She is filling the role of First Lady as we have seen other first ladies do. And I personally find that people who attack her must be serverely lacking in a lot of categories, not the least of which is sanity.
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How much did the Democrats cost taxpayers over Valerie Plame?
but hey, it's only a waste when it was done to that dear Democrat Billy boy Clinton and now under Obama with investigating the abuse of the IRS
then we hear wails of, it's a witch hunt, a waste of monies
rw hate, because of their shellacking in 2012 no doubt, is boiling over in this thread
they have zero understanding of why they lost, and will continue to lose national elections.
I must concede. Michelle is pretty elegant and graceful. She puts these other two ladies to shame:
I must concede. Michelle is pretty elegant and graceful. She puts these other two ladies to shame:
I remember this photograph. Syrenn posted it last year and I was looking at it and wondering why anyone would think the two women on left looked appopriately dressed. They weren't. They look like two high priced hookers coming up the steps of the Georgia Dome. I'm sorry but I have to be honest with you here, Drifting Sand. When it comes to politics? These two wives are a reflection of their husbands and the clothing they select sends a powerful message. ( wrong one )
A daytime outfit with a sleeveless white top and a pink skirt with flats is preferable to what these two have on but I would have selected a nice Jackie O two piece suit for Michele Obama. Still she is sending a far better message then the two on the left! My 2 cents.
- Jeri
