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Flint threatens 8000 deadbeats with foreclosure for unpaid water bills

" Why cain't those stingy white people pay my bills. This ain't fair."

Flint puts 8,000 people on notice for tax liens for unpaid water bills

FLINT, Mich. —
Thousands of people in Flint are at risk of losing their homes to foreclosure if they don't pay up on their water bills. After recently putting out shut-off notices the city is now back to threatening tax liens on people's homes.

"I got scared, for probably the first time since this all started this actually scared me," said Melissa Mays, who is a mother and water activist who lives in Flint.

Mays received the notice in the mail Friday stating that she must pay nearly $900 by May 19 to avoid a lien being placed on her property.

The Mays Family is not alone. More than 8,000 people are also on the same notice. What gets them on this list is not paying a water bill for six months or more.

After May 19, for those who do not pay, a lengthy process begins which could end in foreclosure.
Mays now plans to go against what she believes and pay up so she can keep her family's home.

This water is poisoning people. You expect people to pay the city for poisoning them? Their children have irreversible brain damage and you think they should be paying these bills?

They'll be suing the city, the state and the Feds for allowing this to happen and they'll get big buck too.
 
The 'might' have a case on the city for not condemning their homes, but I think they might have a hard sell vs a city lawyer's arguments - which have held many times over.

Up here in Alaska there was a bunch of rah rah to sue the electric company if the power went out because our pipes freeze. I don't know the details of the case so you'd have to look it up, but the judge ruled it was the homeowners responsibility to be prepared for "unforeseen events." aka we're supposed to take responsibility for keeping our pipes well insulated and wrapped if there is an outage (or have a generator) I suspect it'll amount to roughly the same thing, the pipes in the houses are not properly cared for thus it's not the water/electric companies fault legally.
 
Having just notified of the collection, they should give them more time than May 19 to pay the overdue bills. or a payment plan would be good too.
 
" Why cain't those stingy white people pay my bills. This ain't fair."

Flint puts 8,000 people on notice for tax liens for unpaid water bills

FLINT, Mich. —
Thousands of people in Flint are at risk of losing their homes to foreclosure if they don't pay up on their water bills. After recently putting out shut-off notices the city is now back to threatening tax liens on people's homes.

"I got scared, for probably the first time since this all started this actually scared me," said Melissa Mays, who is a mother and water activist who lives in Flint.

Mays received the notice in the mail Friday stating that she must pay nearly $900 by May 19 to avoid a lien being placed on her property.

The Mays Family is not alone. More than 8,000 people are also on the same notice. What gets them on this list is not paying a water bill for six months or more.

After May 19, for those who do not pay, a lengthy process begins which could end in foreclosure.
Mays now plans to go against what she believes and pay up so she can keep her family's home.

This water is poisoning people. You expect people to pay the city for poisoning them? Their children have irreversible brain damage and you think they should be paying these bills?

They'll be suing the city, the state and the Feds for allowing this to happen and they'll get big buck too.


Exactly who would want to pay for tainted water after Democrats caused this fiasco...


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The 'might' have a case on the city for not condemning their homes, but I think they might have a hard sell vs a city lawyer's arguments - which have held many times over.

Up here in Alaska there was a bunch of rah rah to sue the electric company if the power went out because our pipes freeze. I don't know the details of the case so you'd have to look it up, but the judge ruled it was the homeowners responsibility to be prepared for "unforeseen events." aka we're supposed to take responsibility for keeping our pipes well insulated and wrapped if there is an outage (or have a generator) I suspect it'll amount to roughly the same thing, the pipes in the houses are not properly cared for thus it's not the water/electric companies fault legally.


But wouldn't that be attempting murder,

I thought Alaska has a similar law , you can't leave a motorist stranded alone?



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Lead pipes in homes are not the water providers issue. While I do agree the city probably should have warned everyone about the change of water treatment as a heads up to cover their ass, the bottom line is once it leaves the main line the pipes become the responsibility of the home owner.

These folks want to play games, looking for an excuse to not pay their bills. They best watch it because the city can probably condemn their houses for being unsafe for habitation.

I suggest they take some responsibility and fix their shit.

Pumping corrosive water into the homes is the issue of the providers. And there are other issues besides the dissolved lead,
 
The 'might' have a case on the city for not condemning their homes, but I think they might have a hard sell vs a city lawyer's arguments - which have held many times over.

Up here in Alaska there was a bunch of rah rah to sue the electric company if the power went out because our pipes freeze. I don't know the details of the case so you'd have to look it up, but the judge ruled it was the homeowners responsibility to be prepared for "unforeseen events." aka we're supposed to take responsibility for keeping our pipes well insulated and wrapped if there is an outage (or have a generator) I suspect it'll amount to roughly the same thing, the pipes in the houses are not properly cared for thus it's not the water/electric companies fault legally.

The water being far more corrosive than even Detroit's water is the issue. Unforeseen events? I think pumping contaminated water into someone's home is more than just the equivalent lack of insulation on pipes. Even if for no reason than a comparison of the costs of insulating pipes versus replacing the entire plumbing system in a home.

The measurable lead in the water was not a health threat until the city took money from the water treatment budget to make up for other shortfalls in the budget.
 
Flint's water crisis began as a cost-cutting measure in 2014, when the city switched its water source from Detroit's municipal service to water from the Flint River, which it treated itself. Unlike Detroit's, the Flint system didn't use chemicals to inhibit materials in the water that accelerate corrosion in lead and iron pipework — potentially exposing the city's 100,000 residents to lead and other contaminants.

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/fl...tle-water-suit-almost-100-million-dig-n739196

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not just blacks with bad water
 
Flint's water crisis began as a cost-cutting measure in 2014, when the city switched its water source from Detroit's municipal service to water from the Flint River, which it treated itself. Unlike Detroit's, the Flint system didn't use chemicals to inhibit materials in the water that accelerate corrosion in lead and iron pipework — potentially exposing the city's 100,000 residents to lead and other contaminants.

Flint and Michigan agree to settle water suit for almost $100 million

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not just blacks with bad water

But according to Speedo's personal chemical analysis, the water is fine. The story was invented by the liberal media.
 
Let this thread be a testament to republican values. They complain about the govt. having to much power then when who they consider undesirable buck the govt. they love govt. intervention.
 
trump voters eh? i cannot believe what is happening in this country...and how easy it has been for trump and his millionaires to take over and began a journey towards an authoritative government
 
Flint Michigan has not had a Republican mayor since 1973. Taking out my trusty calculator. What year is it again? 2017? Ok, let's see. 2017 minus 1973 is........44 years.

Lets look at the lovely mayor of that cesspool run by democrats shall we?

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Lovely eh? What a beautiful face. Nice thick dark thick rimmed glasses. Blaming white people for all of her problems. Let me be more specific. Blaming white republicans for all of her problems.
 
I think you guys misunderstand how lead poisoning through pipes works, and thus why they'll lose the case - because they are poisoning themselves through their own actions. The solution is so damn simple anyone can manage it - run your damn water before you drink it. Lead leeches into /standing/ water over time. If you flush that standing water out of the pipes, then there is basically no chance for the lead to leech into the water. See - CDC - Lead - Tips - Sources of Lead - Water

So essentially they are demanding money to pay for replacement of pipes, in order to save themselves money - and rather underhandedly attempting to proclaim that the city is poisoning them. Like I said, it would have been nice for the city to give these folks a heads up - but it is /not/ the water providers responsibility once it leaves the main.

It is equivalent to saying that it's the cities fault if the homeowner puts their septic leech field too close to their well and gets shit water.
 
I think you guys misunderstand how lead poisoning through pipes works, and thus why they'll lose the case - because they are poisoning themselves through their own actions. The solution is so damn simple anyone can manage it - run your damn water before you drink it. Lead leeches into /standing/ water over time. If you flush that standing water out of the pipes, then there is basically no chance for the lead to leech into the water. See - CDC - Lead - Tips - Sources of Lead - Water

So essentially they are demanding money to pay for replacement of pipes, in order to save themselves money - and rather underhandedly attempting to proclaim that the city is poisoning them. Like I said, it would have been nice for the city to give these folks a heads up - but it is /not/ the water providers responsibility once it leaves the main.

It is equivalent to saying that it's the cities fault if the homeowner puts their septic leech field too close to their well and gets shit water.
The democrats MO is to use any and all situations like this to prop themselves up as the protectors of the little guy and prop up their favorite scapegoat, the white republican Christian capitalist.

They know their sheep won't consider or care that democrats have been in charge.

Look at New Orleans and Katrina. Perfect example.

This is what they do, and why they truly love these situations cause they are all political opportunities to push their socialist agenda.
 
The 'might' have a case on the city for not condemning their homes, but I think they might have a hard sell vs a city lawyer's arguments - which have held many times over.

Up here in Alaska there was a bunch of rah rah to sue the electric company if the power went out because our pipes freeze. I don't know the details of the case so you'd have to look it up, but the judge ruled it was the homeowners responsibility to be prepared for "unforeseen events." aka we're supposed to take responsibility for keeping our pipes well insulated and wrapped if there is an outage (or have a generator) I suspect it'll amount to roughly the same thing, the pipes in the houses are not properly cared for thus it's not the water/electric companies fault legally.


But wouldn't that be attempting murder,

I thought Alaska has a similar law , you can't leave a motorist stranded alone?



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Busted pipes is not murder Jesus...

In any event, I am unaware of any rules that require a motorist to stop for anyone but emergency/military vehicles. I just glanced through the state laws and didn't see anything though I didn't make an exhaustive search.
 
I think you guys misunderstand how lead poisoning through pipes works, and thus why they'll lose the case - because they are poisoning themselves through their own actions. The solution is so damn simple anyone can manage it - run your damn water before you drink it. Lead leeches into /standing/ water over time. If you flush that standing water out of the pipes, then there is basically no chance for the lead to leech into the water. See - CDC - Lead - Tips - Sources of Lead - Water

So essentially they are demanding money to pay for replacement of pipes, in order to save themselves money - and rather underhandedly attempting to proclaim that the city is poisoning them. Like I said, it would have been nice for the city to give these folks a heads up - but it is /not/ the water providers responsibility once it leaves the main.

It is equivalent to saying that it's the cities fault if the homeowner puts their septic leech field too close to their well and gets shit water.
You are a disgusting piece of shit for blaming people that were given shit water that ruined their pipes for not fixing them fast enough when they are already poor. Also a typical republican agrees with the govt seizing property when it suits them.

Folks these comments right here show republicans hate "big govt" unless it takes advantage of those they find unworthy. Hypocrites and horrible people that hate people down on their luck considering them inferior for not "pulling up bootstrap".
 
I think you guys misunderstand how lead poisoning through pipes works, and thus why they'll lose the case - because they are poisoning themselves through their own actions. The solution is so damn simple anyone can manage it - run your damn water before you drink it. Lead leeches into /standing/ water over time. If you flush that standing water out of the pipes, then there is basically no chance for the lead to leech into the water. See - CDC - Lead - Tips - Sources of Lead - Water

So essentially they are demanding money to pay for replacement of pipes, in order to save themselves money - and rather underhandedly attempting to proclaim that the city is poisoning them. Like I said, it would have been nice for the city to give these folks a heads up - but it is /not/ the water providers responsibility once it leaves the main.

It is equivalent to saying that it's the cities fault if the homeowner puts their septic leech field too close to their well and gets shit water.
You are a disgusting piece of shit for blaming people that were given shit water that ruined their pipes for not fixing them fast enough when they are already poor. Also a typical republican agrees with the govt seizing property when it suits them.

Folks these comments right here show republicans hate "big govt" unless it takes advantage of those they find unworthy. Hypocrites and horrible people that hate people down on their luck considering them inferior for not "pulling up bootstrap".

Sounds like you need to go suck your thumb in the corner for a bit and get over yourself son.

Really, the water provider built their houses and put in lead pipes and used lead solder? Show me the link for that please.

Else wise, the vast majority of the country, hell the world, realized lead pipes and lead solder was bad at the same time and did something about it. Fun fact: Plumbing actually derives from the Latin word for lead because the fucking ROMAN's made the first pipes out of lead. These particular folks blew off fixing their shit for whatever reason. Not only did they blow it off for a while, but they've blown it off for god damn near 100 fucking years. We've known lead paint was bad since fucking 1904. Stopped making/using lead pipes in 1925. In the 30s and 40s we noted occupational lead poisoning was occurring. Lead gas went out of style in the mid 70s. It's not like this is a "new" thing so stop pretending.

They could have moved, could have got a loan to fix it, could have got a second job for a while to pay for it somewhere in the past fucking 92 years - OR they can just run their fucking water for 10 minutes before drinking or cooking with it. But nope, they don't wanna, they'd rather drink lead infused water than go through that minor effort. Bummer. Choices /they/ are making. No one is forcing them to drink lead leech water, they are /choosing/ to. So yeah, fuck em.
 
I think you guys misunderstand how lead poisoning through pipes works, and thus why they'll lose the case - because they are poisoning themselves through their own actions. The solution is so damn simple anyone can manage it - run your damn water before you drink it. Lead leeches into /standing/ water over time. If you flush that standing water out of the pipes, then there is basically no chance for the lead to leech into the water. See - CDC - Lead - Tips - Sources of Lead - Water

So essentially they are demanding money to pay for replacement of pipes, in order to save themselves money - and rather underhandedly attempting to proclaim that the city is poisoning them. Like I said, it would have been nice for the city to give these folks a heads up - but it is /not/ the water providers responsibility once it leaves the main.

It is equivalent to saying that it's the cities fault if the homeowner puts their septic leech field too close to their well and gets shit water.
You are a disgusting piece of shit for blaming people that were given shit water that ruined their pipes for not fixing them fast enough when they are already poor. Also a typical republican agrees with the govt seizing property when it suits them.

Folks these comments right here show republicans hate "big govt" unless it takes advantage of those they find unworthy. Hypocrites and horrible people that hate people down on their luck considering them inferior for not "pulling up bootstrap".

Sounds like you need to go suck your thumb in the corner for a bit and get over yourself son.

Really, the water provider built their houses and put in lead pipes and used lead solder? Show me the link for that please.

Else wise, the vast majority of the country, hell the world, realized lead pipes and lead solder was bad at the same time and did something about it. Fun fact: Plumbing actually derives from the Latin word for lead because the fucking ROMAN's made the first pipes out of lead. These particular folks blew off fixing their shit for whatever reason. Not only did they blow it off for a while, but they've blown it off for god damn near 100 fucking years. We've known lead paint was bad since fucking 1904. Stopped making/using lead pipes in 1925. In the 30s and 40s we noted occupational lead poisoning was occurring. Lead gas went out of style in the mid 70s. It's not like this is a "new" thing so stop pretending.

They could have moved, could have got a loan to fix it, could have got a second job for a while to pay for it somewhere in the past fucking 92 years - OR they can just run their fucking water for 10 minutes before drinking or cooking with it. But nope, they don't wanna, they'd rather drink lead infused water than go through that minor effort. Bummer. Choices /they/ are making. No one is forcing them to drink lead leech water, they are /choosing/ to. So yeah, fuck em.
I hope something like this happens to you, out of your control, and you can't afford to fix the situation, and you lose everything. Then maybe you won't be a judgemental unfeeling asshole.
 

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