Foreign aid to Honduras, El Salvador, and Guatemala being cut by our great President.

[Soupnazi630]

???!!
this is not 1850 or 1950 anymore
much has changed
1. we are in HUGE debt
2. foreigners want to KILL Americans-travel to America is counted in minutes--not weeks or months
etc

The best way to handle the debt problem is through economic growth. Stronger consistent economic growth of 3% per year or more will require greater immigration from latin America than we currently have at this time.

Globalization has brought the world closer together. We need less barriers to trade, communication, immigration, and transportation to meet the needs of the 21st century.

That is not the best solution to debt

The best solution is to stop using credit and simply do without what one cannot pay for without credit.

Where and when has austerity proven effective?

In endless homes and households where people found they were borrowing themselves into poverty and learned to do without

Micro vs macro economics

Which is irrelevant

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Foreign aid is the responsibility of the State Department and USIAED.

"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution, that grants Congress the right, of expending on articles of benevolence, the money of their constituents."
James Madison, annals of Congress, 1794

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Legal immigrants yes

What is different between immigration laws today and 100 years ago?

???!!
this is not 1850 or 1950 anymore
much has changed
1. we are in HUGE debt
2. foreigners want to KILL Americans-travel to America is counted in minutes--not weeks or months
etc

The best way to handle the debt problem is through economic growth. Stronger consistent economic growth of 3% per year or more will require greater immigration from latin America than we currently have at this time.

Globalization has brought the world closer together. We need less barriers to trade, communication, immigration, and transportation to meet the needs of the 21st century.

More liberal brainwashing. We don't need anymore people. It's a BS excuse the Democrats made up to reach their goal of destroying this country. We did fine with our population 10 years ago, 20 years ago 50 years ago. With automation taking blue collar jobs by the thousands every year, we will have no work for blue collar workers in 50 years from now. We won't even have enough work for the population we have today.

And here we’ e been told our current economy is the strongest of all time with record employment and unimaginable growth.

Or is Trump wrong again?

What does that have to do with my comment????

 

[NoVote]

The way I hear it today is, Trump has already cut free money to Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador and maybe Mexico. I'd suggest a declaration of war with Mexico until they control the flow, non shooting, unless they start it, but something serious has to happen soon.

 

[Desperado]

Its about time, the only question I have is why Mexico was not also on that list?

 

[Indeependent]

What is different between immigration laws today and 100 years ago?

???!!
this is not 1850 or 1950 anymore
much has changed
1. we are in HUGE debt
2. foreigners want to KILL Americans-travel to America is counted in minutes--not weeks or months
etc

The best way to handle the debt problem is through economic growth. Stronger consistent economic growth of 3% per year or more will require greater immigration from latin America than we currently have at this time.

Globalization has brought the world closer together. We need less barriers to trade, communication, immigration, and transportation to meet the needs of the 21st century.

More liberal brainwashing. We don't need anymore people. It's a BS excuse the Democrats made up to reach their goal of destroying this country. We did fine with our population 10 years ago, 20 years ago 50 years ago. With automation taking blue collar jobs by the thousands every year, we will have no work for blue collar workers in 50 years from now. We won't even have enough work for the population we have today.

And here we’ e been told our current economy is the strongest of all time with record employment and unimaginable growth.

Or is Trump wrong again?

What does that have to do with my comment????

Did you miss the Thread, “Don’t Expect Liberals To Make Sense”?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Why don’t you just pay 20% more and talk your friends in to doing the same?

Do those 45 countries have 20-50 million illegal aliens dragging on their healthcare system? Do they have 20 million barely legal anchor babies dragging on their healthcare system? Does more than half their country contribute nothing in income tax to their treasury?

Many of them have worse immigration problems than the United States do to the influx of immigrants from the war in Syria. Many of the countries only spend HALF of what the United States on healthcare and they provide to everyone. Finally, they live longer on average.

Its a good thing that nearly half the country is not paying federal income tax. You want that money to go into the economy. Consumer spending is 70% of economic growth. Most of the money in the country is held by the top 20% of income earners. That's where taxes need to be raised!

Well those top 20% pay most of the taxes for the rest of us. So if we need more, take more from those who are already paying most of it?

No, the bottom need to start putting in their share. After all, we all live in this country, don't we? Why should only a fraction of us support this country?

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Consumer spending is 70% of economic growth. Most consumer spending comes from the 80% of the country you want to increase taxes on. If you increase taxes on the middle class, lower middle class, and lower class, it will hurt consumer spending. When you hurt consumer spending, you hurt economic growth.

The top 20%, and especially the top 10% and top 1% typically don't change their consumer spending habits when hit with a tax increase.

You want to increase tax revenue without hurting economic growth. The only way that can be effectively done is by increasing taxes on the top 20%, the upper middle class and rich.

Because my money is better spent on the economy. A higher tax level would reduce how much consumer spending I and others not in the top 20% could spend. That would hurt economic growth. You don't want to hurt economic growth do you? That's why taxes should only be raised on incomes who will not have to change their level of consumer spending due to increased taxes. Raising Taxes on the rich brings in much needed tax revenue without hurting economic growth because the rich typically do not change their consumer spending habits when hit with tax hikes.

Okay, let's go with that.

You increase taxes on the wealthy, and you think they will just stand there with a thumb in their pocket holding it open for you to take what you desire; that they will never try to recoup their losses? You don't know many wealthy people, do you?

If the federal income tax rate were 0%, the amount of money the federal government would collect would be 0 dollars. If the tax rate were 100%, the federal government would still collect 0 dollars because who would be stupid enough to work and create wealth?

Earlier you mentioned a federal income tax rate of 70%. Now add state taxes in, city taxes, county taxes, and the rate is closer to 90%. Who would risk money to become wealthy if they could only keep 10% of that wealth? Nobody.

For the wealthy that do stay in this country and provide jobs, that would mean a halt to any pay raises for their employees. It may mean dropping their healthcare plan. It may mean a drastic increase on the price of their products or services.

What you people don't understand is the big guy never loses money. He just passes the buck to us little people, and we indirectly pay that tax.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

All his potential opponents are beating him in national polls and state battleground polls. His 2+ year average in the GALLUP poll is 40%. Bush had 48% in the Gallup poll when he was re-elected. Trump has NEVER been above 45% in the Gallup poll.

They are not beating him


None of his potential opponents can come close.

The closest is sanders and he has little to no chance.

In the latest state polls BIDEN leads Trump by the following margins:

Wisconsin: BIDEN 8 points over Trump
Michigan: BIDEN 8 points over Trump
Pennsylvania: BIDEN 10 points over Trump
Iowa: BIDEN 6 points over Trump

NATIONALLY: BIDEN 10 points over Trump

Biden has he largest leads over Trump and is averaging about 30% support among Democrats compared to Bernie Sanders 20% support. Oddly, Bernie Sanders staying power will help to block any newcomers from taking on BIDEN ensuring BIDEN wins the Democratic Nomination for President.

Biden has no chance with the current creepy label he is generating

Not to mention his recent attacks on jurisprudence

He topped out as an obscure vp

Well we can only hope the fake Hispanic gets in. His only agenda is to make pot legal across the country.

Beto?

Yes, that guy.

 

[RealDave]

Trump is cutting foreign aid to three shithole countries that are flooding us with migrants. MAGA!

"While the president has threatened these cuts before, this time the administration is actually following through.

Trump said the funds totaled $500 million, but it wasn’t clear Friday if that figure was accurate. The State Department announced in December that the U.S. would mobilize $5.8 billion in public and private american investment to these three countries.

“We’re not paying them anymore because they haven’t done a thing for us,” he added."

Trump cuts all direct assistance to Honduras, El Salvador, Guatemala

Well, that oughta fix things. Make those countries even poorer; that'll keep all those pesky people from leaving home and coming here.

You realize they were leaving even when we were lining the pockets of their elite; right? Riiiight?

I'm confused. In December, we were going to seriously increase aid to help stem this flow of people. Remember this?
U.S. pledges billions in aid to develop Central America, curb migration | Reuters
Has Trump changed his mind or is there some difference between the two events?

Yes. We help those who help us. They haven’t. So the flow of cash stops. Pretty simple...

Actually Honduras has made progress in cutting back corruption, etc. Trump is justr a fucking asshole looking to blame others for his lack of ability to handle the border situation.

 

[Thinker101]

You can always send your own money to those countries.

Start a movement and ask every Democrat to send 10% of their wealth to them.

Trump is cutting foreign aid to three shithole countries that are flooding us with migrants. MAGA!

"While the president has threatened these cuts before, this time the administration is actually following through.

Trump said the funds totaled $500 million, but it wasn’t clear Friday if that figure was accurate. The State Department announced in December that the U.S. would mobilize $5.8 billion in public and private american investment to these three countries.

“We’re not paying them anymore because they haven’t done a thing for us,” he added."

Trump cuts all direct assistance to Honduras, El Salvador, Guatemala

Well, that oughta fix things. Make those countries even poorer; that'll keep all those pesky people from leaving home and coming here.

Foreign aid is the responsibility of the State Department and USIAED. Tax revenue, primarily raised from the wealthier incomes in the USA, is used in order to protect the middle and lower classes and keep them spending on the US economy.

Foreign aid? And those funds come from the money tree?

 

[WaitingFor2020]

Fox News has reported that Trump is cutting aid to 3 Mexican countries:
Middle Mexico
North Mexico
South Mexico

https://www.washingtonpost.com/arts...appened/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.fbb631ec36fd

Look, you can tell the woman in the middle is staring at the monitor and thinking, "Oh shit, how did I ever get mixed up with these idiots?"

 

[RealDave]

Trump is cutting foreign aid to three shithole countries that are flooding us with migrants. MAGA!

"While the president has threatened these cuts before, this time the administration is actually following through.

Trump said the funds totaled $500 million, but it wasn’t clear Friday if that figure was accurate. The State Department announced in December that the U.S. would mobilize $5.8 billion in public and private american investment to these three countries.

“We’re not paying them anymore because they haven’t done a thing for us,” he added."

Trump cuts all direct assistance to Honduras, El Salvador, Guatemala

From the OP article: 'Trump said the funds totaled $500 million,'

$500 million total. Big fucking deal. That equals about 1/2,000'th of the deficit Trump is running. So fucking what?
But his xenophobic, ignorant, mostly uneducated Trumpbots will cheer this because they are xenophobic, ignorant, mostly uneducated minions.
This is nothing but throwing a bone to his Nuremberg Rally-type base.

He still gives many, MANY billions to countries in the form of military aid. ALL of which is wrong and should be stopped IMMEDIATELY.

I don't like America giving aid (you NEVER give money to countries...they just blow most of it on corruption. You give them 'stuff'...but NEVER cash.). But I sure as hell would rather they gave money to poor countries for food/shelter/etc. then give money to countries for weapons.

You give them 'stuff'...but NEVER cash.
I agree.

Who pays for the “stuff” YOU want to give them?

And when the refugees show up, who pays for that?

 

[Thinker101]

Trump is cutting foreign aid to three shithole countries that are flooding us with migrants. MAGA!

"While the president has threatened these cuts before, this time the administration is actually following through.

Trump said the funds totaled $500 million, but it wasn’t clear Friday if that figure was accurate. The State Department announced in December that the U.S. would mobilize $5.8 billion in public and private american investment to these three countries.

“We’re not paying them anymore because they haven’t done a thing for us,” he added."

Trump cuts all direct assistance to Honduras, El Salvador, Guatemala

Well, that oughta fix things. Make those countries even poorer; that'll keep all those pesky people from leaving home and coming here.

You realize they were leaving even when we were lining the pockets of their elite; right? Riiiight?

I'm confused. In December, we were going to seriously increase aid to help stem this flow of people. Remember this?
U.S. pledges billions in aid to develop Central America, curb migration | Reuters
Has Trump changed his mind or is there some difference between the two events?

Yes. We help those who help us. They haven’t. So the flow of cash stops. Pretty simple...

Actually Honduras has made progress in cutting back corruption, etc. Trump is justr a fucking asshole looking to blame others for his lack of ability to handle the border situation.

Yea, that's why so many are joining caravans to the U.S., because of all the progress Honduras has made.

 

[RealDave]

You can always send your own money to those countries.

Start a movement and ask every Democrat to send 10% of their wealth to them.

Trump is cutting foreign aid to three shithole countries that are flooding us with migrants. MAGA!

"While the president has threatened these cuts before, this time the administration is actually following through.

Trump said the funds totaled $500 million, but it wasn’t clear Friday if that figure was accurate. The State Department announced in December that the U.S. would mobilize $5.8 billion in public and private american investment to these three countries.

“We’re not paying them anymore because they haven’t done a thing for us,” he added."

Trump cuts all direct assistance to Honduras, El Salvador, Guatemala

Well, that oughta fix things. Make those countries even poorer; that'll keep all those pesky people from leaving home and coming here.

Foreign aid is the responsibility of the State Department and USIAED. Tax revenue, primarily raised from the wealthier incomes in the USA, is used in order to protect the middle and lower classes and keep them spending on the US economy.

Foreign aid? And those funds come from the money tree?

Funny chit oir a Trumpette to pretend they care about spending money.

Foreign Aid saves more than it costs.

AS Trump pull it back, China & Russia will step in.

 

[Indeependent]

Trump is cutting foreign aid to three shithole countries that are flooding us with migrants. MAGA!

"While the president has threatened these cuts before, this time the administration is actually following through.

Trump said the funds totaled $500 million, but it wasn’t clear Friday if that figure was accurate. The State Department announced in December that the U.S. would mobilize $5.8 billion in public and private american investment to these three countries.

“We’re not paying them anymore because they haven’t done a thing for us,” he added."

Trump cuts all direct assistance to Honduras, El Salvador, Guatemala

From the OP article: 'Trump said the funds totaled $500 million,'

$500 million total. Big fucking deal. That equals about 1/2,000'th of the deficit Trump is running. So fucking what?
But his xenophobic, ignorant, mostly uneducated Trumpbots will cheer this because they are xenophobic, ignorant, mostly uneducated minions.
This is nothing but throwing a bone to his Nuremberg Rally-type base.

He still gives many, MANY billions to countries in the form of military aid. ALL of which is wrong and should be stopped IMMEDIATELY.

I don't like America giving aid (you NEVER give money to countries...they just blow most of it on corruption. You give them 'stuff'...but NEVER cash.). But I sure as hell would rather they gave money to poor countries for food/shelter/etc. then give money to countries for weapons.

You give them 'stuff'...but NEVER cash.
I agree.

Who pays for the “stuff” YOU want to give them?

And when the refugees show up, who pays for that?

You.

 

[Indeependent]

You can always send your own money to those countries.

Start a movement and ask every Democrat to send 10% of their wealth to them.

Trump is cutting foreign aid to three shithole countries that are flooding us with migrants. MAGA!

"While the president has threatened these cuts before, this time the administration is actually following through.

Trump said the funds totaled $500 million, but it wasn’t clear Friday if that figure was accurate. The State Department announced in December that the U.S. would mobilize $5.8 billion in public and private american investment to these three countries.

“We’re not paying them anymore because they haven’t done a thing for us,” he added."

Trump cuts all direct assistance to Honduras, El Salvador, Guatemala

Well, that oughta fix things. Make those countries even poorer; that'll keep all those pesky people from leaving home and coming here.

Foreign aid is the responsibility of the State Department and USIAED. Tax revenue, primarily raised from the wealthier incomes in the USA, is used in order to protect the middle and lower classes and keep them spending on the US economy.

Foreign aid? And those funds come from the money tree?

Funny chit oir a Trumpette to pretend they care about spending money.

Foreign Aid saves more than it costs.

AS Trump pull it back, China & Russia will step in.

Trump is building up our military.

 

[RealDave]

Well, that oughta fix things. Make those countries even poorer; that'll keep all those pesky people from leaving home and coming here.

You realize they were leaving even when we were lining the pockets of their elite; right? Riiiight?

I'm confused. In December, we were going to seriously increase aid to help stem this flow of people. Remember this?
U.S. pledges billions in aid to develop Central America, curb migration | Reuters
Has Trump changed his mind or is there some difference between the two events?

Yes. We help those who help us. They haven’t. So the flow of cash stops. Pretty simple...

Actually Honduras has made progress in cutting back corruption, etc. Trump is justr a fucking asshole looking to blame others for his lack of ability to handle the border situation.

Yea, that's why so many are joining caravans to the U.S., because of all the progress Honduras has made.

I said progress was made, not the problems were all l solved. Learn to read.

 

[Indeependent]

You realize they were leaving even when we were lining the pockets of their elite; right? Riiiight?

I'm confused. In December, we were going to seriously increase aid to help stem this flow of people. Remember this?
U.S. pledges billions in aid to develop Central America, curb migration | Reuters
Has Trump changed his mind or is there some difference between the two events?

Yes. We help those who help us. They haven’t. So the flow of cash stops. Pretty simple...

Actually Honduras has made progress in cutting back corruption, etc. Trump is justr a fucking asshole looking to blame others for his lack of ability to handle the border situation.

Yea, that's why so many are joining caravans to the U.S., because of all the progress Honduras has made.

I said progress was made, not the problems were all l solved. Learn to read.

My co-worker’s family lives in Columbia and says you have no idea what’s going on.

 

[RealDave]

You can always send your own money to those countries.

Start a movement and ask every Democrat to send 10% of their wealth to them.

Well, that oughta fix things. Make those countries even poorer; that'll keep all those pesky people from leaving home and coming here.

Foreign aid is the responsibility of the State Department and USIAED. Tax revenue, primarily raised from the wealthier incomes in the USA, is used in order to protect the middle and lower classes and keep them spending on the US economy.

Foreign aid? And those funds come from the money tree?

Funny chit oir a Trumpette to pretend they care about spending money.

Foreign Aid saves more than it costs.

AS Trump pull it back, China & Russia will step in.

Trump is building up our military.

He just took money from the military to build a wall.

Just saw a report this morning on the deplorable conditions at Camp Lejeune that have not been addressed since last years Hurricane.

 

[RealDave]

I'm confused. In December, we were going to seriously increase aid to help stem this flow of people. Remember this?
U.S. pledges billions in aid to develop Central America, curb migration | Reuters
Has Trump changed his mind or is there some difference between the two events?

Yes. We help those who help us. They haven’t. So the flow of cash stops. Pretty simple...

Actually Honduras has made progress in cutting back corruption, etc. Trump is justr a fucking asshole looking to blame others for his lack of ability to handle the border situation.

Yea, that's why so many are joining caravans to the U.S., because of all the progress Honduras has made.

I said progress was made, not the problems were all l solved. Learn to read.

My co-worker’s family lives in Columbia and says you have no idea what’s going on.

Over 200 million in Air to Colombia. Trump tried to cut that too.

You want to cut it too?