four texas gun-toting "activists" scare fast-food employees into hiding in freezer

[rightwinger]

And if you were to say, "Obama is a real life cock sucker." to a libtard like you he would say, "MphMmphmphmph" because his head would be entirely muffled by too much colon wrapped firmly around it.

Thanks to Jim Crowie for such a beautiful thought on Mothers Day

Well, I guess it is an appropriate response from you, given that you are a Motherf....

Are you accusing me of incest?

 

[skookerasbil]

How ghey

 

[JimBowie1958]

When I was a musician, when in New Orleans we used to go to the ninth ward to score drugs. We used to have a good time there. If you act like you are streetwise and not scared, you can go almost anywhere.

That's true everywhere. It's all about attitude and psychology. If you walk around looking nonthreatening, you won't be bothered. Walk around packing looking for trouble, and you'll get your wish that way too. Why, of those two choices, one would choose the latter course is damned mysterious.

Looking unthreatened by the environment is the key.

The key to helping you control your bladder, but it is not key to anything else.

 

[Kondor3]

There's a big difference between (maybe) being nervous enough about open-carry patrons in a public establishment and (maybe) avoiding such a place when shepherding children, in the face of a great many guns on hips, etc., versus being willing to set aside open-carry because of that transition period, which I am not. Speaking only for myself, I'm willing to experience some discomfort off-and-on for a while as new open-carry laws unfold, rather than sacrifice or weaken the right to carry.

 

[Kondor3]

Thank you for being the first person to acknowledge the obvious.

It may seem obvious to a PC Nazi like you but there is nothing valid about any of it.

Oh, it's "valid" alright - it's entirely understandable - and folks have the right - to feel uncomfortable in the face of visibly armed neighbors and patrons of public establishments, and there's nothing wrong with acknowledging that, and serving-up some respect for those feelings. It's just that the right to carry is more important, and those feelings must be subordinated to that right, during any conversion-to-open-carry transition period and beyond. I'm sure that, eventually, folks will get used to it, but that's what Educational Opportunities like that illustrated in the OP are all about. Getting folks used to the idea - without alienating them in the process. Or so it seems to this observer.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Once again you missed an intro. Specifically "I just briefly dropped in, and am not really interested in reading all the back posts" ...

What do you do -- start in the middle of everything?

I didn't miss shit, the idiot lied just like all the rest of you liberal pricks lie.

If you read one or two post in this thread, you're reading the thread!

If you're talking about the neanderthals (like you and your Bowie buddy) on this thread who've been trivially tossing about slurs like "Nazi" because that's all they can do, then yeah, you have a point.

Otherwise, that's dumb.

It is a slur, true, but it totally fits PC Nazis like you.

Just ask Bill Maher.

Liberal Bill Maher Rips PC Nazis On the Left ? ?We are Atheists, Not Vampires? | Scared Monkeys

Oh, yes, the PC Nazis are already air brushing history and removing clips of that Maher video everywhere they can. So watch it while you can still see it.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Thank you for being the first person to acknowledge the obvious.

It may seem obvious to a PC Nazi like you but there is nothing valid about any of it.

Oh, it's "valid" alright - it's entirely understandable - and folks have the right - to feel uncomfortable in the face of visibly armed neighbors and patrons of public establishments, and there's nothing wrong with acknowledging that, and serving-up some respect for those feelings. It's just that the right to carry is more important, and those feelings must be subordinated to that right, during any conversion-to-open-carry transition period and beyond. I'm sure that, eventually, folks will get used to it, but that's what Educational Opportunities like that illustrated in the OP are all about. Getting folks used to the idea - without alienating them in the process. Or so it seems to this observer.

I meant it is not a valid basis for stripping people of their rights. It is similar to free speech rights; what you say might make me very uncomfortable, but that is not valid grounds for me to remove from you the right to say it.

It isn't quite up to the 'yelling fire in a theater' level at all.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Wow that Maher video is gone already from the above site and the following as well.

Bill Maher Hammers ?Political Correctness Nazis? In Rant | The Federalist Papers

Bill Maher Takes On PC Nazis on the Left - Liberals Can Be Obnoxious Too! - YouTube

What did I call them? NAZIs and they earn every letter of the name.

Edit: Finally! found a site that still has the video, but you have to listen to Maher's bullshit till 2:00 when he finally gets to the part about the PC Nazis and how they are killing the Dems.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/maher-tackles-pc-nazis-on-the-left-yes-liberals-can-be-obnoxious/

 

[rightwinger]

Thank you for being the first person to acknowledge the obvious.

It may seem obvious to a PC Nazi like you but there is nothing valid about any of it.

Oh, it's "valid" alright - it's entirely understandable - and folks have the right - to feel uncomfortable in the face of visibly armed neighbors and patrons of public establishments, and there's nothing wrong with acknowledging that, and serving-up some respect for those feelings. It's just that the right to carry is more important, and those feelings must be subordinated to that right, during any conversion-to-open-carry transition period and beyond. I'm sure that, eventually, folks will get used to it, but that's what Educational Opportunities like that illustrated in the OP are all about. Getting folks used to the idea - without alienating them in the process. Or so it seems to this observer.

Get used to having people walk around with AR-15 s with a monster magazine? Get used to someone sitting in a bar with a loaded shotgun while he drinks himself silly? Get used to taking your children to public places where some moron intent on flaunting his second amendment rights parades around with maximum firepower?

No, I don't think I want to get used to that

 

[JimBowie1958]

It may seem obvious to a PC Nazi like you but there is nothing valid about any of it.

Oh, it's "valid" alright - it's entirely understandable - and folks have the right - to feel uncomfortable in the face of visibly armed neighbors and patrons of public establishments, and there's nothing wrong with acknowledging that, and serving-up some respect for those feelings. It's just that the right to carry is more important, and those feelings must be subordinated to that right, during any conversion-to-open-carry transition period and beyond. I'm sure that, eventually, folks will get used to it, but that's what Educational Opportunities like that illustrated in the OP are all about. Getting folks used to the idea - without alienating them in the process. Or so it seems to this observer.

Get used to having people walk around with AR-15 s with a monster magazine? Get used to someone sitting in a bar with a loaded shotgun while he drinks himself silly? Get used to taking your children to public places where some moron intent on flaunting his second amendment rights parades around with maximum firepower?

No, I don't think I want to get used to that

Great.

When do you leave the country?

 

[namvet]

I'm as pro-Second Amendment as anyone, but these four butt clowns are NOT the guys I want advancing arguments for the Right to Bear Arms:

Rheana Murray, ABC News—Fast food employees who thought they were being robbed by a group of gun-toting men locked themselves in a freezer to hide, police said.

It turned out the men, some of them from the group Open Carry Texas, were just staging a demonstration of their right to bear arms, Fort Worth, Texas, Police Sgt. Raymond Bush told ABCNews.com.

“When police showed up, there were four to six men carrying rifles,” he said. “The employees were in fear for their lives.”

No arrests were made and the gun owners went home after their demonstration.

Employees spotted the men outside the restaurant. Once police arrived and reassured the workers they were in no danger, at least one employee posed with the group for a photo.

The demonstration was staged by Open Carry Tarrant County, the local chapter of Open Carry Texas, OCT's CJ Grisham told ABCNews.com.

Grisham denied reports employees hid in the freezer, claiming they were the result of a customer's false 911 call.

"There are a lot of people in that area who completely disagree with gun rights," he said. "They have been doing this to us for months now - call the police with false reports of us waving around guns, scaring people."

Fort Worth police said they stand by their report.

Open Carry Texas, which often stages demonstrations, says its mission is to educate Texans about gun safety and encourage citizens to feel safe around gun owners who bear arms in public.

Gun Advocates Spook Fast Food Workers Into Hiding in Freezer

I don't know who these "patriots" think they are, but where I come from, we call them TERRORISTS.

I don't know who these "patriots" think they are, but where I come from, we call them TERRORISTS]

so do we

 

[rightwinger]

Oh, it's "valid" alright - it's entirely understandable - and folks have the right - to feel uncomfortable in the face of visibly armed neighbors and patrons of public establishments, and there's nothing wrong with acknowledging that, and serving-up some respect for those feelings. It's just that the right to carry is more important, and those feelings must be subordinated to that right, during any conversion-to-open-carry transition period and beyond. I'm sure that, eventually, folks will get used to it, but that's what Educational Opportunities like that illustrated in the OP are all about. Getting folks used to the idea - without alienating them in the process. Or so it seems to this observer.

Get used to having people walk around with AR-15 s with a monster magazine? Get used to someone sitting in a bar with a loaded shotgun while he drinks himself silly? Get used to taking your children to public places where some moron intent on flaunting his second amendment rights parades around with maximum firepower?

No, I don't think I want to get used to that

Great.

When do you leave the country?

I haven't left yet and my side has been very successful in getting restrictions passed on how and when you can carry a gun

Assholes who parade their weapons in a Jack in the Box or at a Little League game make it easier for my side to convince people that gun owners are not responsible

 

[Ernie S.]

We can always change Open-Carry laws so that each group of four or more gun-carrying persons must hire a Calm-Your-Fears escort to precede them into any public business establishment and to sprinkle Magic Do-Not-Be-Afraid Fairy Dust over the heads of those with less-than-sturdy nerves...

I see one problem right away with that, Kondor.

.... who's going to pay for this magic dust?

I predict a shortage of magic dust as most will end up in Liberal noses.

 

[Ernie S.]

The theater was a gun free zone. Even in open carry states businesses can tell people to leave their guns outside.

Want to try again, or would you rather admit you really screwed up?

Lets assume a theatre is not a gun free zone. Someone walks in with their gun and a bag full of ammo, are you going to stay and watch the movie?

Sure! I'm armed and alert.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Get used to having people walk around with AR-15 s with a monster magazine? Get used to someone sitting in a bar with a loaded shotgun while he drinks himself silly? Get used to taking your children to public places where some moron intent on flaunting his second amendment rights parades around with maximum firepower?

No, I don't think I want to get used to that

Great.

When do you leave the country?

I haven't left yet and my side has been very successful in getting restrictions passed on how and when you can carry a gun

Lol, you fucking liar. The vast majority of those laws are from over 50 years ago when most Americans were progressives and prior to waking up to how libtards like you abuse the power of the government.

Now that they are awakened few such laws are being passed. Sandy Hook got your asinine laws stuffed back down your own throats except in Connecticut where the local media went on a 24/7 blitz about the evils of guns and how those kids would be alive today if only all guns didn't exist.

And even that is about to get rolled back.

Assholes who parade their weapons in a Jack in the Box or at a Little League game make it easier for my side to convince people that gun owners are not responsible

Bullshit. Your convincing is entirely based on their emotions, not rational thinking, and people are increasingly aware of this as well.

Without fear, ignorance and paranoia, you libtards don't have an agenda.

 

[Ernie S.]

Maybe one of you open carry advocates can explain something

Adam Lanza shows up at school carrying an AR-15 and a backpack full of ammunition. He knocks on the door and explains he has a meeting with the principal. Do you let him in?

James Holmes is dressed like the Joker and is on line in your movie theater. He is carrying an AR-15 and has a backpack full of ammunition. Do you sell him a ticket?

We all know gun free zones are bad and all. It would be bad manners to call the police on a law abiding citizen and people would call you a wuss for overreacting to an armed citizen

What do you do?

If you do not have open carry, when you see someone with a gun, you know they are trouble. With open carry, any lunatic can be walking around with a gun. How does open carry keep you safer if the bad guys can walk around with guns?

Because the bad guys are usually cowards and prefer unarmed victims.

Consider for a moment, you are a dirtbag looking to score some cash for your next fix. There is a strip mall with a convenience store with a prominently displayed sign restricting firearms in their establishment, and a gun store next door to it. Which will you rob?

 

[jon_berzerk]

Maybe one of you open carry advocates can explain something

Adam Lanza shows up at school carrying an AR-15 and a backpack full of ammunition. He knocks on the door and explains he has a meeting with the principal. Do you let him in?

James Holmes is dressed like the Joker and is on line in your movie theater. He is carrying an AR-15 and has a backpack full of ammunition. Do you sell him a ticket?

We all know gun free zones are bad and all. It would be bad manners to call the police on a law abiding citizen and people would call you a wuss for overreacting to an armed citizen

What do you do?

If you do not have open carry, when you see someone with a gun, you know they are trouble. With open carry, any lunatic can be walking around with a gun. How does open carry keep you safer if the bad guys can walk around with guns?

Because the bad guys are usually cowards and prefer unarmed victims.

Consider for a moment, you are a dirtbag looking to score some cash for your next fix. There is a strip mall with a convenience store with a prominently displayed sign restricting firearms in their establishment, and a gun store next door to it. Which will you rob?

assuming they are not stoned out of their gourds

they will probably pick neither

and move down the street

to more comfortable pickins

 

[Ernie S.]

It may seem obvious to a PC Nazi like you but there is nothing valid about any of it.

Oh, it's "valid" alright - it's entirely understandable - and folks have the right - to feel uncomfortable in the face of visibly armed neighbors and patrons of public establishments, and there's nothing wrong with acknowledging that, and serving-up some respect for those feelings. It's just that the right to carry is more important, and those feelings must be subordinated to that right, during any conversion-to-open-carry transition period and beyond. I'm sure that, eventually, folks will get used to it, but that's what Educational Opportunities like that illustrated in the OP are all about. Getting folks used to the idea - without alienating them in the process. Or so it seems to this observer.

Get used to having people walk around with AR-15 s with a monster magazine? Get used to someone sitting in a bar with a loaded shotgun while he drinks himself silly? Get used to taking your children to public places where some moron intent on flaunting his second amendment rights parades around with maximum firepower?

No, I don't think I want to get used to that

Sitting at a bar with a loaded shotgun?
You know little of liquor laws, do you.
In most states, even Alabama, an open carry state, it is illegal to have a firearm in a bar. In New Mexico, another open carry state, it is a mandatory 1 year for entering any establishment that sells alcoholic beverages while armed. This includes a 7/11 that sells beer.

Here in Alabama, as Permittee, I am the only person that may be armed in Doc Holliday's The second I take a drink I must disarm. Seeing I don't drink....

 

[JimBowie1958]

Oh, it's "valid" alright - it's entirely understandable - and folks have the right - to feel uncomfortable in the face of visibly armed neighbors and patrons of public establishments, and there's nothing wrong with acknowledging that, and serving-up some respect for those feelings. It's just that the right to carry is more important, and those feelings must be subordinated to that right, during any conversion-to-open-carry transition period and beyond. I'm sure that, eventually, folks will get used to it, but that's what Educational Opportunities like that illustrated in the OP are all about. Getting folks used to the idea - without alienating them in the process. Or so it seems to this observer.

Get used to having people walk around with AR-15 s with a monster magazine? Get used to someone sitting in a bar with a loaded shotgun while he drinks himself silly? Get used to taking your children to public places where some moron intent on flaunting his second amendment rights parades around with maximum firepower?

No, I don't think I want to get used to that

Sitting at a bar with a loaded shotgun?
You know little of liquor laws, do you.
In most states, even Alabama, an open carry state, it is illegal to have a firearm in a bar. In New Mexico, another open carry state, it is a mandatory 1 year for entering any establishment that sells alcoholic beverages while armed. This includes a 7/11 that sells beer.

Here in Alabama, as Permittee, I am the only person that may be armed in Doc Holliday's The second I take a drink I must disarm. Seeing I don't drink....

In Virginia it is legal to open carry into a bar and drink. But if you get drunk then you are subject to arrest as drunken carry is illegal.

That is totally rational, IMO.

IF I go with friends into a bar and don't get smashed, why would that be irresponsible?

When I was a kid, the adults would go hunting and carry beer with them and get drunk and all carrying loaded shot guns with them. Hell, I thought hunting was just an excuse to get away from the women and get smashed.

But really, if I have two beers, I can still handle my gun responsibly, so why criminalize it?

Fear of what others might do with their freedom is the shortest prescription for fascism ever invented.

 

[Pogo]

This from the guy that got his ass handed to him in a debate using actual facts instead of wild accusations.

I just 'splained to your ass that this was a hypothetical like six posts ago and then you committed the same faux pas anyway. Face it, you couldn't hand an ass if it gyrated in front of you on a stripper pole.

Hypothetical means absolutely no basis in reality now?

It always has.

In other news... "duh".