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[Ringel05]

I love the revisionist propaganda that University of Chicago law professor Bernard Harcourt (nope, not a historian) loosely applied to what happened under the Nazis in respect to firearm ownership. This is the "study" idiots like Jo(ke) regurgitate, the so called study that claims German gun laws were massively "relaxed" for all German "citizens", if one actually looks at the law this is not really so easy a generalization. The devil is in the details..........
It allowed most German citizens, who were not Jews or other persecuted classes (millions of those) to own a rifle or a shotgun only once their application for a permit was approved, all it took was the approving official to deny an application was dislike of the applicant and/or hearsay accusations of the applicant not being a "trustworthy" citizen.

 

[JoeB131]

When the point is made that gun bans disarm those who might need to defend themselves against tyranny, the fact that Hitler disarmed the Jews and allowed those who followed him to own more guns is actually helping them make their point.

No, it's really not. Anyone who thinks a few guns in the ghetto would be more than a speed bump for the Final Solution is deluding themselves.

 

[JoeB131]

I love the revisionist propaganda that University of Chicago law professor Bernard Harcourt (nope, not a historian) loosely applied to what happened under the Nazis in respect to firearm ownership. This is the "study" idiots like Jo(ke) regurgitate, the so called study that claims German gun laws were massively "relaxed" for all German "citizens", if one actually looks at the law this is not really so easy a generalization. The devil is in the details..........
It allowed most German citizens, who were not Jews or other persecuted classes (millions of those) to own a rifle or a shotgun only once their application for a permit was approved, all it took was the approving official to deny an application was dislike of the applicant and/or hearsay accusations of the applicant not being a "trustworthy" citizen.

which was still better than what they had under the Weimar Regime, which tried to confiscate all the guns. And better than what they had under the Allied Occupation, where all the guns were indeed confiscated

Fact is, Nazi Germany was a right wing paradise. Lots of guns, lots of religious assholes....

 

[2aguy]

I love the revisionist propaganda that University of Chicago law professor Bernard Harcourt (nope, not a historian) loosely applied to what happened under the Nazis in respect to firearm ownership. This is the "study" idiots like Jo(ke) regurgitate, the so called study that claims German gun laws were massively "relaxed" for all German "citizens", if one actually looks at the law this is not really so easy a generalization. The devil is in the details..........
It allowed most German citizens, who were not Jews or other persecuted classes (millions of those) to own a rifle or a shotgun only once their application for a permit was approved, all it took was the approving official to deny an application was dislike of the applicant and/or hearsay accusations of the applicant not being a "trustworthy" citizen.

which was still better than what they had under the Weimar Regime, which tried to confiscate all the guns. And better than what they had under the Allied Occupation, where all the guns were indeed confiscated

Fact is, Nazi Germany was a right wing paradise. Lots of guns, lots of religious assholes....

nazis were left wing socialists. moron.

 

[Ringel05]

I love the revisionist propaganda that University of Chicago law professor Bernard Harcourt (nope, not a historian) loosely applied to what happened under the Nazis in respect to firearm ownership. This is the "study" idiots like Jo(ke) regurgitate, the so called study that claims German gun laws were massively "relaxed" for all German "citizens", if one actually looks at the law this is not really so easy a generalization. The devil is in the details..........
It allowed most German citizens, who were not Jews or other persecuted classes (millions of those) to own a rifle or a shotgun only once their application for a permit was approved, all it took was the approving official to deny an application was dislike of the applicant and/or hearsay accusations of the applicant not being a "trustworthy" citizen.

which was still better than what they had under the Weimar Regime, which tried to confiscate all the guns. And better than what they had under the Allied Occupation, where all the guns were indeed confiscated

Fact is, Nazi Germany was a right wing paradise. Lots of guns, lots of religious assholes....

Can you sat Treaty of Versailles? I knew you could.........
Yup, and you're just as big an asshole as your far right opponents, hell the only difference pertaining to attitudes and desire to enslave the American people is they tend to have an R after their names, you dicks tend to have a D after your names......

 

[2aguy]

When the point is made that gun bans disarm those who might need to defend themselves against tyranny, the fact that Hitler disarmed the Jews and allowed those who followed him to own more guns is actually helping them make their point.

No, it's really not. Anyone who thinks a few guns in the ghetto would be more than a speed bump for the Final Solution is deluding themselves.

We aren't talking about a "few" guns....we are talking levels of armed citizens like we are in the states......much more of a problem moron.......

 

[Ringel05]

I love the revisionist propaganda that University of Chicago law professor Bernard Harcourt (nope, not a historian) loosely applied to what happened under the Nazis in respect to firearm ownership. This is the "study" idiots like Jo(ke) regurgitate, the so called study that claims German gun laws were massively "relaxed" for all German "citizens", if one actually looks at the law this is not really so easy a generalization. The devil is in the details..........
It allowed most German citizens, who were not Jews or other persecuted classes (millions of those) to own a rifle or a shotgun only once their application for a permit was approved, all it took was the approving official to deny an application was dislike of the applicant and/or hearsay accusations of the applicant not being a "trustworthy" citizen.

which was still better than what they had under the Weimar Regime, which tried to confiscate all the guns. And better than what they had under the Allied Occupation, where all the guns were indeed confiscated

Fact is, Nazi Germany was a right wing paradise. Lots of guns, lots of religious assholes....

nazis were left wing socialists. moron.

No they weren't, that's a modern interpretation used exclusively by the far right as an attack (propaganda) position against the far left. Like associating the Democrats of the 1800s through mid 1900s with the Democrats of today, it's not based in modern reality.

 

[JoeB131]

nazis were left wing socialists. moron.

Most political scientists classify Nazism on the right... sorry.

Can you sat Treaty of Versailles? I knew you could.........
Yup, and you're just as big an asshole as your far right opponents, hell the only difference pertaining to attitudes and desire to enslave the American people is they tend to have an R after their names, you dicks tend to have a D after your names......

That was the point. The Weimars disarmed the country in the name of the ToV. But also because you had armed gangs fighting in the streets- Nazis, Communists, Anarchists, Freikorps.

Then Hitler came along and gave Germans back their rights to guns.

So he's really has a poor showing as a "gun grabber" if there are more guns in private hands when he finished than when he started.

 

[JoeB131]

We aren't talking about a "few" guns....we are talking levels of armed citizens like we are in the states......much more of a problem moron.......

Not really. In fact, I imagine if they had fought back, they'd have just flattened the ghetto with bombs.

 

[2aguy]

We aren't talking about a "few" guns....we are talking levels of armed citizens like we are in the states......much more of a problem moron.......

Not really. In fact, I imagine if they had fought back, they'd have just flattened the ghetto with bombs.

Really.....and of course some Jews could have used guns to escape the Ghetto, perhaps and escaped Germany as a last resort.......of course guns would have made that easier.......

 

[2aguy]

nazis were left wing socialists. moron.

Most political scientists classify Nazism on the right... sorry.

Can you sat Treaty of Versailles? I knew you could.........
Yup, and you're just as big an asshole as your far right opponents, hell the only difference pertaining to attitudes and desire to enslave the American people is they tend to have an R after their names, you dicks tend to have a D after your names......

That was the point. The Weimars disarmed the country in the name of the ToV. But also because you had armed gangs fighting in the streets- Nazis, Communists, Anarchists, Freikorps.

Then Hitler came along and gave Germans back their rights to guns.

So he's really has a poor showing as a "gun grabber" if there are more guns in private hands when he finished than when he started.

Again....he disarmed the people he wanted to murder.......you really are stupid.....and if guns were no big deal......why disarm them at all.....right....? Since they didn't matter...right?

 

[JoeB131]

Really.....and of course some Jews could have used guns to escape the Ghetto, perhaps and escaped Germany as a last resort.......of course guns would have made that easier.......

and gotten where, exactly? RIght into the loving hands of the Red Army, that could have saved them and didn't?

 

[2aguy]

I love the revisionist propaganda that University of Chicago law professor Bernard Harcourt (nope, not a historian) loosely applied to what happened under the Nazis in respect to firearm ownership. This is the "study" idiots like Jo(ke) regurgitate, the so called study that claims German gun laws were massively "relaxed" for all German "citizens", if one actually looks at the law this is not really so easy a generalization. The devil is in the details..........
It allowed most German citizens, who were not Jews or other persecuted classes (millions of those) to own a rifle or a shotgun only once their application for a permit was approved, all it took was the approving official to deny an application was dislike of the applicant and/or hearsay accusations of the applicant not being a "trustworthy" citizen.

which was still better than what they had under the Weimar Regime, which tried to confiscate all the guns. And better than what they had under the Allied Occupation, where all the guns were indeed confiscated

Fact is, Nazi Germany was a right wing paradise. Lots of guns, lots of religious assholes....

nazis were left wing socialists. moron.

No they weren't, that's a modern interpretation used exclusively by the far right as an attack (propaganda) position against the far left. Like associating the Democrats of the 1800s through mid 1900s with the Democrats of today, it's not based in modern reality.

Sorry to disagree with you but they were left wing socialists.....everything they believed confirms that.....

 

[JoeB131]

Again....he disarmed the people he wanted to murder.......you really are stupid.....and if guns were no big deal......why disarm them at all.....right....? Since they didn't matter...right?

Same reason he stripped them of all their legal rights, property and so on.

 

[Ringel05]

nazis were left wing socialists. moron.

Most political scientists classify Nazism on the right... sorry.

Can you sat Treaty of Versailles? I knew you could.........
Yup, and you're just as big an asshole as your far right opponents, hell the only difference pertaining to attitudes and desire to enslave the American people is they tend to have an R after their names, you dicks tend to have a D after your names......

That was the point. The Weimars disarmed the country in the name of the ToV. But also because you had armed gangs fighting in the streets- Nazis, Communists, Anarchists, Freikorps.

Then Hitler came along and gave Germans back their rights to guns.

So he's really has a poor showing as a "gun grabber" if there are more guns in private hands when he finished than when he started.

You're grasping at straws...... as usual. Based on the modern view (by some on the far and moderate right) he's still a gun grabber because of what were only allowed and who they were not to be given too.

 

[JoeB131]

Sorry to disagree with you but they were left wing socialists.....everything they believed confirms that.....

Like what? Because you seem to think ante-bellum southerners were liberals. I htink you are very confused on the political spectrum.

 

[2aguy]

Really.....and of course some Jews could have used guns to escape the Ghetto, perhaps and escaped Germany as a last resort.......of course guns would have made that easier.......

and gotten where, exactly? RIght into the loving hands of the Red Army, that could have saved them and didn't?

Really.....and of course some Jews could have used guns to escape the Ghetto, perhaps and escaped Germany as a last resort.......of course guns would have made that easier.......

and gotten where, exactly? RIght into the loving hands of the Red Army, that could have saved them and didn't?

Well...like American pilots shot down during the war...to Switzerland or Spain.......

 

[JoeB131]

You're grasping at straws...... as usual. Based on the modern view (by some on the far and moderate right) he's still a gun grabber because of what were only allowed and who they were not to be given too.

So he's a gun grabber who left his population BETTER Armed than when he started...

So well armed that after the war, the Allied Powers had to go house to house to confiscate all the guns.

Uh... yeah, that makes sense.

 

[Ringel05]

I love the revisionist propaganda that University of Chicago law professor Bernard Harcourt (nope, not a historian) loosely applied to what happened under the Nazis in respect to firearm ownership. This is the "study" idiots like Jo(ke) regurgitate, the so called study that claims German gun laws were massively "relaxed" for all German "citizens", if one actually looks at the law this is not really so easy a generalization. The devil is in the details..........
It allowed most German citizens, who were not Jews or other persecuted classes (millions of those) to own a rifle or a shotgun only once their application for a permit was approved, all it took was the approving official to deny an application was dislike of the applicant and/or hearsay accusations of the applicant not being a "trustworthy" citizen.

which was still better than what they had under the Weimar Regime, which tried to confiscate all the guns. And better than what they had under the Allied Occupation, where all the guns were indeed confiscated

Fact is, Nazi Germany was a right wing paradise. Lots of guns, lots of religious assholes....

nazis were left wing socialists. moron.

No they weren't, that's a modern interpretation used exclusively by the far right as an attack (propaganda) position against the far left. Like associating the Democrats of the 1800s through mid 1900s with the Democrats of today, it's not based in modern reality.

Sorry to disagree with you but they were left wing socialists.....everything they believed confirms that.....

Sorry but historically you're wrong, maybe in a modern day interpretation you're correct but not in the context of the times.

 

[2aguy]

nazis were left wing socialists. moron.

Most political scientists classify Nazism on the right... sorry.

Can you sat Treaty of Versailles? I knew you could.........
Yup, and you're just as big an asshole as your far right opponents, hell the only difference pertaining to attitudes and desire to enslave the American people is they tend to have an R after their names, you dicks tend to have a D after your names......

That was the point. The Weimars disarmed the country in the name of the ToV. But also because you had armed gangs fighting in the streets- Nazis, Communists, Anarchists, Freikorps.

Then Hitler came along and gave Germans back their rights to guns.

So he's really has a poor showing as a "gun grabber" if there are more guns in private hands when he finished than when he started.

You're grasping at straws...... as usual. Based on the modern view (by some on the far and moderate right) he's still a gun grabber because of what were only allowed and who they were not to be given too.

Most political scientists are leftists who don't want the all the mass murderers in history to be left wing socialists...the economic system they support...