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Funnelling money back to the rich. Trump's policy.

If he bans Muslim immigration, secures the southern border, and creates jobs I don't care about the rich. I think others will forget about them too.

And what will banning Muslim immigration do? How many killings in the US have happened because of Muslims and how many because of non-Muslims?
And how many lives can we save by extreme vetting those from terrorist nations?

How many lives would have been saved? A few. But the right aren't interested in saving lives. When it comes to guns and seeing thousands of people die needlessly every year, when it comes to education and social policies that could save lives, the right couldn't give a fuck.

And the Left does not give a fuck about the citizens of this country. We give the government its power not the other way around. And that power we give is to insure our safety and do things with our interests being foremost.

Does the right? I mean, when you get into this partisan team game bullshit, it's all about winning and not about what's best.

The establishment of the Right or the Left both lost this election. Trump is a populist.
 
Trump hasn't taken office yet, but already his picks are showing what his main policy is. To make the rich richer and the poor poorer.

In charge of education he wants DeVos who is a strong advocate for school vouchers. Vouchers are basically a ways of giving money to rich parents who can already send their kids to private school. So now they get money off their private school, and it won't do anything for most kids in the US.

Tom Price, who Trump will nominate to be in charge of Health, has sent through the last 3 Congresses a bill which would see people get reduced insurance bills, unless of course you have a problem in which case Price doesn't give a fuck about you and you'll have such a large insurance bill that you'll essentially die, unless of course you're rich.

Trump said he was having a revolution, that he was an outsider. So his pick for Treasury is a banker. The very people who caused all the problems that people could have supposed that a change, a revolution, would do away with. And he will essentially be carry out tax cuts for the wealthy.

For Attorney General there is Jeff Sessions. A guy who voted against a bill to prevent cruel, inhumane, or degrading punishment under the control of the US govt. He has a zero rating from the Human Rights Campaign. Well we know Trump has no idea about Human Rights, so to pick someone who doesn't give a damn about them or the Constitution is telling.

Basically the rich will get richer, and the poor are stuffed. The President won't represent anyone who isn't in the top 10%.


Rich people dont need Vouchers, but the poor and middle class do. What are you, a teachers union member?
 
Hold on a minute here!
So you're saying that motivated, hard working, intelligent people who make a positive contribution will be rewarded
AND
lazy, never working, iQ challenged folks who are dead weight on the economy won't get enough free shit?
Hmmm, we must have moved away from the ass-backward bottom up Libtard bullshit.
 
Trump's picks are all excellent. Did you expect him to put failures in positions. Now it is true that successful people generally have incomes to match. Failures are normally jobless and poor.
 
And what will banning Muslim immigration do? How many killings in the US have happened because of Muslims and how many because of non-Muslims?
And how many lives can we save by extreme vetting those from terrorist nations?

How many lives would have been saved? A few. But the right aren't interested in saving lives. When it comes to guns and seeing thousands of people die needlessly every year, when it comes to education and social policies that could save lives, the right couldn't give a fuck.

And the Left does not give a fuck about the citizens of this country. We give the government its power not the other way around. And that power we give is to insure our safety and do things with our interests being foremost.

Does the right? I mean, when you get into this partisan team game bullshit, it's all about winning and not about what's best.

The establishment of the Right or the Left both lost this election. Trump is a populist.

Possibly, but then "right and left" don't exist as right and left. You have the Republicans and the Democrats, and one side claims to be right, the other claims to be left. Who won? Not the people, that's who.
 
Trump's picks are all excellent. Did you expect him to put failures in positions. Now it is true that successful people generally have incomes to match. Failures are normally jobless and poor.

So you're saying they're going to be good just because they're rich? That makes no sense. You put in Bill Gates at Quarter Back and expect him to perform simply because he's rich?
 
Trump hasn't taken office yet, but already his picks are showing what his main policy is. To make the rich richer and the poor poorer.

In charge of education he wants DeVos who is a strong advocate for school vouchers. Vouchers are basically a ways of giving money to rich parents who can already send their kids to private school. So now they get money off their private school, and it won't do anything for most kids in the US.

Tom Price, who Trump will nominate to be in charge of Health, has sent through the last 3 Congresses a bill which would see people get reduced insurance bills, unless of course you have a problem in which case Price doesn't give a fuck about you and you'll have such a large insurance bill that you'll essentially die, unless of course you're rich.

Trump said he was having a revolution, that he was an outsider. So his pick for Treasury is a banker. The very people who caused all the problems that people could have supposed that a change, a revolution, would do away with. And he will essentially be carry out tax cuts for the wealthy.

For Attorney General there is Jeff Sessions. A guy who voted against a bill to prevent cruel, inhumane, or degrading punishment under the control of the US govt. He has a zero rating from the Human Rights Campaign. Well we know Trump has no idea about Human Rights, so to pick someone who doesn't give a damn about them or the Constitution is telling.

Basically the rich will get richer, and the poor are stuffed. The President won't represent anyone who isn't in the top 10%.


Rich people dont need Vouchers, but the poor and middle class do. What are you, a teachers union member?

No, rich people don't need vouchers, but they'll get them anyway.
 
Hold on a minute here!
So you're saying that motivated, hard working, intelligent people who make a positive contribution will be rewarded
AND
lazy, never working, iQ challenged folks who are dead weight on the economy won't get enough free shit?
Hmmm, we must have moved away from the ass-backward bottom up Libtard bullshit.

Ah, so people who don't earn much money are lazy, while rich people born with a silver spoon in their mouth are hard working?

Some of these "lazy people" are working 80 hours a week to keep food on their kids' table.
 
Hold on a minute here!
So you're saying that motivated, hard working, intelligent people who make a positive contribution will be rewarded
AND
lazy, never working, iQ challenged folks who are dead weight on the economy won't get enough free shit?
Hmmm, we must have moved away from the ass-backward bottom up Libtard bullshit.

Ah, so people who don't earn much money are lazy, while rich people born with a silver spoon in their mouth are hard working?

Some of these "lazy people" are working 80 hours a week to keep food on their kids' table.

The funny thing about that is nobody here ever met one.
 
You cannot compare Chile to the US. We (or I) don't know what the standards are for the vouchers and private schools catering to students below grade level performance. The vouchers should be limited to those families under a certain income.

Vouchers will work students who can handle the standards of a private school. As a teacher in the inner city, teachers would sometimes seek tuition scholarships to private schools for the most advanced students in their classrooms.

But we still have a crisis in the public schools. I personally feel that the public schools have so much superfluous non academic time spent on social engineering. We need to spend the day only on academics and forget the non educational nonsense going on.

Yes I can compare Chile to the US thank you very much.

You say vouchers work. PROVE IT. Whenever vouchers have been used nationally it's been a failure.

This is my argument. You have an argument and you've backed it up with NOTHING.

Now you're saying vouchers should be limited to families under a certain income. That isn't going to happen. Why? Because the people who propose vouchers do so for one reason, and that reason is to funnel money to the rich.

Why have vouchers for poor students? Why not just allow them to choose any public school they like and IMPROVE THE STANDARD OF PUBLIC SCHOOLS?

You think public schools spend too much time on social engineering? I'd say they clearly don't spend enough time on this.
We are both talking about improving the standards of the public schools, but with unions, it is hard. They protect the bad teachers and as the president of the Federation of Teachers once said, "I'll be interested in the students when they pay my salary."

Yes, it is hard to improve things with the unions. Vouchers doesn't necessarily change that. In Chile they got rid of unions, it was a dictatorship, and standards didn't improve.

The UK has education unions and the unions work to improve education.

Then why are the teachers unions a failure here?
 
Trump hasn't taken office yet, but already his picks are showing what his main policy is. To make the rich richer and the poor poorer.

In charge of education he wants DeVos who is a strong advocate for school vouchers. Vouchers are basically a ways of giving money to rich parents who can already send their kids to private school. So now they get money off their private school, and it won't do anything for most kids in the US.

Tom Price, who Trump will nominate to be in charge of Health, has sent through the last 3 Congresses a bill which would see people get reduced insurance bills, unless of course you have a problem in which case Price doesn't give a fuck about you and you'll have such a large insurance bill that you'll essentially die, unless of course you're rich.

Trump said he was having a revolution, that he was an outsider. So his pick for Treasury is a banker. The very people who caused all the problems that people could have supposed that a change, a revolution, would do away with. And he will essentially be carry out tax cuts for the wealthy.

For Attorney General there is Jeff Sessions. A guy who voted against a bill to prevent cruel, inhumane, or degrading punishment under the control of the US govt. He has a zero rating from the Human Rights Campaign. Well we know Trump has no idea about Human Rights, so to pick someone who doesn't give a damn about them or the Constitution is telling.

Basically the rich will get richer, and the poor are stuffed. The President won't represent anyone who isn't in the top 10%.
n charge of education he wants DeVos who is a strong advocate for school vouchers. Vouchers are basically a ways of giving money to rich parents who can already send their kids to private school. So now they get money off their private school, and it won't do anything for most kids in the US.

You don'y know much about vouchers. Vouchers insure the poor have the choice of good schools, something the rich can pay for themselves. Vouchers even the playing field for parents who want better for their disadvantaged children.

Tom Price, who Trump will nominate to be in charge of Health, has sent through the last 3 Congresses a bill which would see people get reduced insurance bills, unless of course you have a problem in which case Price doesn't give a fuck about you and you'll have such a large insurance bill that you'll essentially die, unless of course you're rich.

You don't even know what will be in the new Affordable Care Program. Trump hasn't even taken office yet, but we all know Obamacare has been an abject failure.
Four Years of Obamacare Failures Is Long Enough

Trump said he was having a revolution, that he was an outsider. So his pick for Treasury is a banker. The very people who caused all the problems that people could have supposed that a change, a revolution, would do away with. And he will essentially be carry out tax cuts for the wealthy.

How can a pick be someone without a background in finance???

I agree. Leave it to the sore losers to dredge up bullshit.

As far as I'm concerned Trump's picks so far have been great. He's surrounding himself with very capable people.

He and Pence have already saved jobs in Indiana and he's not even POTUS yet.

Saw one of the Carrier workers on TV last night. He's a life long Democrat but voted for Trump this time. He's glad he did.
 
Trump hasn't taken office yet, but already his picks are showing what his main policy is. To make the rich richer and the poor poorer.

This is exactly what has happened under Obama so stop pretending like you care

I disagree. Obama wouldn't have been my choice to run the country, he's a politician through and through, however if it were a choice between him, Dubya or Trump, no contest really. Obama was actually interested in the people, the other two weren't.

Obama is an elitist snob who couldn't give a fuck about you

Potentially. However he did more for the people than Bush did or Trump will do.

He sure did. For the first time in my life, I now have no health insurance along with millions of others. Thanks Obama.
 
Trump hasn't taken office yet, but already his picks are showing what his main policy is. To make the rich richer and the poor poorer.

This is exactly what has happened under Obama so stop pretending like you care

I disagree. Obama wouldn't have been my choice to run the country, he's a politician through and through, however if it were a choice between him, Dubya or Trump, no contest really. Obama was actually interested in the people, the other two weren't.

Obama is an elitist snob who couldn't give a fuck about you
Obama is only interested in his legacy even when it works against the US citizens.

What DumBama is interested in is the promotion of his party and ideology. HIs goal was to make as many Americans government dependent as he could. He's been very successful too. Just between Commie Care and food stamps, he created over 40 million more government dependents on those two programs alone.
 
Trump's picks are all excellent. Did you expect him to put failures in positions. Now it is true that successful people generally have incomes to match. Failures are normally jobless and poor.

So you're saying they're going to be good just because they're rich? That makes no sense. You put in Bill Gates at Quarter Back and expect him to perform simply because he's rich?

No asshole. They are good because they know the job and got rich doing the job. If they weren't good they wouldn't have lasted in that job.

Unlike Govt. The private sector expects is people to perform. If they don't they are gone.

Jesus are you one stupid motherfucker.
 
You cannot compare Chile to the US. We (or I) don't know what the standards are for the vouchers and private schools catering to students below grade level performance. The vouchers should be limited to those families under a certain income.

Vouchers will work students who can handle the standards of a private school. As a teacher in the inner city, teachers would sometimes seek tuition scholarships to private schools for the most advanced students in their classrooms.

But we still have a crisis in the public schools. I personally feel that the public schools have so much superfluous non academic time spent on social engineering. We need to spend the day only on academics and forget the non educational nonsense going on.

Yes I can compare Chile to the US thank you very much.

You say vouchers work. PROVE IT. Whenever vouchers have been used nationally it's been a failure.

This is my argument. You have an argument and you've backed it up with NOTHING.

Now you're saying vouchers should be limited to families under a certain income. That isn't going to happen. Why? Because the people who propose vouchers do so for one reason, and that reason is to funnel money to the rich.

Why have vouchers for poor students? Why not just allow them to choose any public school they like and IMPROVE THE STANDARD OF PUBLIC SCHOOLS?

You think public schools spend too much time on social engineering? I'd say they clearly don't spend enough time on this.

Vouchers give people choices. Freedom is choice. The more choice one has, the more freedom one has.

You can't improve those public schools. The US spends more per capita than any other industrialized country in the world, yet have mediocre results to show for it. Every time a problem came up with public schools, the Democrat answer was to just throw more money at it and it hasn't helped very much.
 
Trump hasn't taken office yet, but already his picks are showing what his main policy is. To make the rich richer and the poor poorer.

In charge of education he wants DeVos who is a strong advocate for school vouchers. Vouchers are basically a ways of giving money to rich parents who can already send their kids to private school. So now they get money off their private school, and it won't do anything for most kids in the US.

Tom Price, who Trump will nominate to be in charge of Health, has sent through the last 3 Congresses a bill which would see people get reduced insurance bills, unless of course you have a problem in which case Price doesn't give a fuck about you and you'll have such a large insurance bill that you'll essentially die, unless of course you're rich.

Trump said he was having a revolution, that he was an outsider. So his pick for Treasury is a banker. The very people who caused all the problems that people could have supposed that a change, a revolution, would do away with. And he will essentially be carry out tax cuts for the wealthy.

For Attorney General there is Jeff Sessions. A guy who voted against a bill to prevent cruel, inhumane, or degrading punishment under the control of the US govt. He has a zero rating from the Human Rights Campaign. Well we know Trump has no idea about Human Rights, so to pick someone who doesn't give a damn about them or the Constitution is telling.

Basically the rich will get richer, and the poor are stuffed. The President won't represent anyone who isn't in the top 10%.

What the fuck our you fear mongering about? What the fuck did obozo do? He made wall street rich and fucked over main street
 
Trump hasn't taken office yet, but already his picks are showing what his main policy is. To make the rich richer and the poor poorer.

In charge of education he wants DeVos who is a strong advocate for school vouchers. Vouchers are basically a ways of giving money to rich parents who can already send their kids to private school. So now they get money off their private school, and it won't do anything for most kids in the US.

Tom Price, who Trump will nominate to be in charge of Health, has sent through the last 3 Congresses a bill which would see people get reduced insurance bills, unless of course you have a problem in which case Price doesn't give a fuck about you and you'll have such a large insurance bill that you'll essentially die, unless of course you're rich.

Trump said he was having a revolution, that he was an outsider. So his pick for Treasury is a banker. The very people who caused all the problems that people could have supposed that a change, a revolution, would do away with. And he will essentially be carry out tax cuts for the wealthy.

For Attorney General there is Jeff Sessions. A guy who voted against a bill to prevent cruel, inhumane, or degrading punishment under the control of the US govt. He has a zero rating from the Human Rights Campaign. Well we know Trump has no idea about Human Rights, so to pick someone who doesn't give a damn about them or the Constitution is telling.

Basically the rich will get richer, and the poor are stuffed. The President won't represent anyone who isn't in the top 10%.

If he bans Muslim immigration, secures the southern border, and creates jobs I don't care about the rich. I think others will forget about them too.

And what will banning Muslim immigration do? How many killings in the US have happened because of Muslims and how many because of non-Muslims?
And how many lives can we save by extreme vetting those from terrorist nations?

I have no problem with vetting people from all countries, targeting Muslims is ridiculous.

Why is it ridiculous?

Vetting people from all countries? Doesn't that fall under the same stupidity as the TSA strip searching 80 year old white women with red wigs on while younger middle- eastern men just jump aboard airplanes no questions asked?

When it comes to politically correct, it has it's place, but not with the security of our people and country.
 
Hold on a minute here!
So you're saying that motivated, hard working, intelligent people who make a positive contribution will be rewarded
AND
lazy, never working, iQ challenged folks who are dead weight on the economy won't get enough free shit?
Hmmm, we must have moved away from the ass-backward bottom up Libtard bullshit.

Ah, so people who don't earn much money are lazy, while rich people born with a silver spoon in their mouth are hard working?

Some of these "lazy people" are working 80 hours a week to keep food on their kids' table.

The funny thing about that is nobody here ever met one.

Yeah, well I have, so....
 
Trump hasn't taken office yet, but already his picks are showing what his main policy is. To make the rich richer and the poor poorer.

In charge of education he wants DeVos who is a strong advocate for school vouchers. Vouchers are basically a ways of giving money to rich parents who can already send their kids to private school. So now they get money off their private school, and it won't do anything for most kids in the US.

Tom Price, who Trump will nominate to be in charge of Health, has sent through the last 3 Congresses a bill which would see people get reduced insurance bills, unless of course you have a problem in which case Price doesn't give a fuck about you and you'll have such a large insurance bill that you'll essentially die, unless of course you're rich.

Trump said he was having a revolution, that he was an outsider. So his pick for Treasury is a banker. The very people who caused all the problems that people could have supposed that a change, a revolution, would do away with. And he will essentially be carry out tax cuts for the wealthy.

For Attorney General there is Jeff Sessions. A guy who voted against a bill to prevent cruel, inhumane, or degrading punishment under the control of the US govt. He has a zero rating from the Human Rights Campaign. Well we know Trump has no idea about Human Rights, so to pick someone who doesn't give a damn about them or the Constitution is telling.

Basically the rich will get richer, and the poor are stuffed. The President won't represent anyone who isn't in the top 10%.

What the fuck our you fear mongering about? What the fuck did obozo do? He made wall street rich and fucked over main street

Did he? Are people poorer now than they were after Bush had got done with it all?
 
Trump hasn't taken office yet, but already his picks are showing what his main policy is. To make the rich richer and the poor poorer.

In charge of education he wants DeVos who is a strong advocate for school vouchers. Vouchers are basically a ways of giving money to rich parents who can already send their kids to private school. So now they get money off their private school, and it won't do anything for most kids in the US.

Tom Price, who Trump will nominate to be in charge of Health, has sent through the last 3 Congresses a bill which would see people get reduced insurance bills, unless of course you have a problem in which case Price doesn't give a fuck about you and you'll have such a large insurance bill that you'll essentially die, unless of course you're rich.

Trump said he was having a revolution, that he was an outsider. So his pick for Treasury is a banker. The very people who caused all the problems that people could have supposed that a change, a revolution, would do away with. And he will essentially be carry out tax cuts for the wealthy.

For Attorney General there is Jeff Sessions. A guy who voted against a bill to prevent cruel, inhumane, or degrading punishment under the control of the US govt. He has a zero rating from the Human Rights Campaign. Well we know Trump has no idea about Human Rights, so to pick someone who doesn't give a damn about them or the Constitution is telling.

Basically the rich will get richer, and the poor are stuffed. The President won't represent anyone who isn't in the top 10%.

If he bans Muslim immigration, secures the southern border, and creates jobs I don't care about the rich. I think others will forget about them too.

And what will banning Muslim immigration do? How many killings in the US have happened because of Muslims and how many because of non-Muslims?
And how many lives can we save by extreme vetting those from terrorist nations?

I have no problem with vetting people from all countries, targeting Muslims is ridiculous.

Why is it ridiculous?

Vetting people from all countries? Doesn't that fall under the same stupidity as the TSA strip searching 80 year old white women with red wigs on while younger middle- eastern men just jump aboard airplanes no questions asked?

When it comes to politically correct, it has it's place, but not with the security of our people and country.

Terrorists can come from anywhere, they don't need to be Muslims.
 

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