Funny how all the people against the border wall...

[Dragonlady]

They were for the wall, before they were against the wall.

Except it wasn't a 15 billion dollar wall, it was 4 billion fencing.

So, we will save that much not having to gives millions welfare.

What a ridiculous suggestion. There has been no mass migration from Mexico for years, and yet 11 million illegal immigrants are still there. And the government is letting thousands in with student visas, H1N1 visas, and tourist visas.

Once someone is IN your country, the costs continue, and as long as people can fly in, this is where your illegal immigration will continue to come from. The vast majority of illegal immigration is NOT coming across the border from Mexico. It's flying in, visas in hand, from all over the world, and there is nothing you can do to stop it, except to not let any non-citizen into your country.

 

[g5000]

TH3 WALL is a McGuffin. It's a magical element which will solve all the problems of America.

This is what the master huckster has the rube herd worshiping. It is the modern day Golden Calf.

 

[AntonToo]

And Trump is not doing same, he is doing something 4-5 times more expensive and way more intrusive into private properties.

lol So you would support it if it were less expensive and had fewer private property issues?

It certainly becomes more palatable way to spend our resources, I'm not against secure borders, I'm against solutions that are worse than the problem.

View attachment 108965

Ladder and a rope - $100.

Student Visa - a few bucks.

Please let me know where you can buy a 32 foot ladder for a hundred bucks.

You don't need to buy it.

 

[g5000]

They were for the wall, before they were against the wall.

Except it wasn't a 15 billion dollar wall, it was 4 billion fencing.

So, we will save that much not having to gives millions welfare.

What a ridiculous suggestion. There has been no mass migration from Mexico for years, and yet 11 million illegal immigrants are still there. And the government is letting thousands in with student visas, H1N1 visas, and tourist visas.

Once someone is IN your country, the costs continue, and as long as people can fly in, this is where your illegal immigration will continue to come from. The vast majority of illegal immigration is NOT coming across the border from Mexico. It's flying in, visas in hand, from all over the world, and there is nothing you can do to stop it, except to not let any non-citizen into your country.

There has been a net migration OUT of the US for some years now.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

They were for the wall, before they were against the wall.

Except it wasn't a 15 billion dollar wall, it was 4 billion fencing.

So, we will save that much not having to gives millions welfare.

What a ridiculous suggestion. There has been no mass migration from Mexico for years, and yet 11 million illegal immigrants are still there. And the government is letting thousands in with student visas, H1N1 visas, and tourist visas.

Once someone is IN your country, the costs continue, and as long as people can fly in, this is where your illegal immigration will continue to come from. The vast majority of illegal immigration is NOT coming across the border from Mexico. It's flying in, visas in hand, from all over the world, and there is nothing you can do to stop it, except to not let any non-citizen into your country.

Report: More Than 331,000 Illegal Immigrants Snagged at Southern Border in 2015
And that only counts the ones that were caught.

Stop talking out of your ass old lady

 

[g5000]

There are less illegals in America than during the Bush regime. I have a hunch, though, none of the rube herd will be thanking Obama for that any time soon.

Somehow, the tards have become convinced the darkies are the reason our economy is sluggish. This has led me to believe they must have Alzheimer's.

You see, when we had more illegals in 'Merka than we have now, our economy was booming.

Then something happened. Maybe you heard about it. It was in all the papers.

But here's the really bad news. That thing that happened? That thing which plunged our economy into the abyss from which Obama had to pull us out?

It had NOTHING to do with Mexicans.

No, really! It didn't.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

But, by golly, we are going to fix our economic problems by...walling ourselves in!

That's the "genius" of the rube herd.

95 percent of the consumers on this planet live outside the United States, and we are going to tell them to fuck off.

 

[AntonToo]

They were for the wall, before they were against the wall.

Except it wasn't a 15 billion dollar wall, it was 4 billion fencing.

So, we will save that much not having to gives millions welfare.

What a ridiculous suggestion. There has been no mass migration from Mexico for years, and yet 11 million illegal immigrants are still there. And the government is letting thousands in with student visas, H1N1 visas, and tourist visas.

Once someone is IN your country, the costs continue, and as long as people can fly in, this is where your illegal immigration will continue to come from. The vast majority of illegal immigration is NOT coming across the border from Mexico. It's flying in, visas in hand, from all over the world, and there is nothing you can do to stop it, except to not let any non-citizen into your country.

Report: More Than 331,000 Illegal Immigrants Snagged at Southern Border in 2015
And that only counts the ones that were caught.

Stop talking out of your ass old lady

...what exactly do you think you disputed?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

They were for the wall, before they were against the wall.

Except it wasn't a 15 billion dollar wall, it was 4 billion fencing.

So, we will save that much not having to gives millions welfare.

What a ridiculous suggestion. There has been no mass migration from Mexico for years, and yet 11 million illegal immigrants are still there. And the government is letting thousands in with student visas, H1N1 visas, and tourist visas.

Once someone is IN your country, the costs continue, and as long as people can fly in, this is where your illegal immigration will continue to come from. The vast majority of illegal immigration is NOT coming across the border from Mexico. It's flying in, visas in hand, from all over the world, and there is nothing you can do to stop it, except to not let any non-citizen into your country.

Report: More Than 331,000 Illegal Immigrants Snagged at Southern Border in 2015
And that only counts the ones that were caught.

Stop talking out of your ass old lady

...what exactly do you think you disputed?

Her first fucking paragraph. Duh..

 

[g5000]

Dow plunges over 360 points on credit fears - Nov. 1, 2007

Dow Plunges 800 Points As Global Crisis Persists - Oct. 6, 2008

Dow Plunges 680 Points as Recession Is Declared - December 1, 2008

Goddam Mexicans!!!

 

[jknowgood]

They were for the wall, before they were against the wall.

Except it wasn't a 15 billion dollar wall, it was 4 billion fencing.

So, we will save that much not having to gives millions welfare.

What a ridiculous suggestion. There has been no mass migration from Mexico for years, and yet 11 million illegal immigrants are still there. And the government is letting thousands in with student visas, H1N1 visas, and tourist visas.

Once someone is IN your country, the costs continue, and as long as people can fly in, this is where your illegal immigration will continue to come from. The vast majority of illegal immigration is NOT coming across the border from Mexico. It's flying in, visas in hand, from all over the world, and there is nothing you can do to stop it, except to not let any non-citizen into your country.

There are plenty of things to do about it. One that would fix it. Would be to make it illegal to rent a house or an apartment to an illegal. With the penalty being you lose your property if you do. That would take care of it.

 

[pismoe]

“Building a wall is the most expensive and least effective way to secure the border,” - Rep. Will Hurd (R-Texas)

....as his state is being overrun with illegals.

Yea are right, this Republican living in a border state just doesn't know what he is talking about.

-----------------------------------------------------------aw republican , the bushes are republican scum , especially jebito bush and juan McCain so 'republican' on the border means nothing Antontoo . And as a guess many republican living on the border are probably related to Mexicans living in mexico , extended family that like easy access to the USA Antontoo . Anyway , the WALL should be built and this link is an explanation on how to build the TRUMP Wall Antontoo !! --- What it would take to build Trump's border wall - CNN Video ---

 

[jknowgood]

lol So you would support it if it were less expensive and had fewer private property issues?

It certainly becomes more palatable way to spend our resources, I'm not against secure borders, I'm against solutions that are worse than the problem.

View attachment 108965

Ladder and a rope - $100.

Student Visa - a few bucks.

Please let me know where you can buy a 32 foot ladder for a hundred bucks.

You don't need to buy it.

No, seriously let me know, I would buy it. I could actually use on.

 

[Iceweasel]

What a ridiculous suggestion. There has been no mass migration from Mexico for years, and yet 11 million illegal immigrants are still there. And the government is letting thousands in with student visas, H1N1 visas, and tourist visas.

Once someone is IN your country, the costs continue, and as long as people can fly in, this is where your illegal immigration will continue to come from. The vast majority of illegal immigration is NOT coming across the border from Mexico. It's flying in, visas in hand, from all over the world, and there is nothing you can do to stop it, except to not let any non-citizen into your country.

Your source is ....?

 

[AntonToo]

Except it wasn't a 15 billion dollar wall, it was 4 billion fencing.

So, we will save that much not having to gives millions welfare.

What a ridiculous suggestion. There has been no mass migration from Mexico for years, and yet 11 million illegal immigrants are still there. And the government is letting thousands in with student visas, H1N1 visas, and tourist visas.

Once someone is IN your country, the costs continue, and as long as people can fly in, this is where your illegal immigration will continue to come from. The vast majority of illegal immigration is NOT coming across the border from Mexico. It's flying in, visas in hand, from all over the world, and there is nothing you can do to stop it, except to not let any non-citizen into your country.

Report: More Than 331,000 Illegal Immigrants Snagged at Southern Border in 2015
And that only counts the ones that were caught.

Stop talking out of your ass old lady

...what exactly do you think you disputed?

Her first fucking paragraph. Duh..

What she means is that there has been net reduction of Mexican illegals

 

[BluesLegend]

They were for the wall, before they were against the wall.

Except it wasn't a 15 billion dollar wall, it was 4 billion fencing.

$15 billion is nothing, illegals are costing us at least half that if not all that each and every year. Sorry to burst your bubble.

 

[kaz]

lol So you would support it if it were less expensive and had fewer private property issues?

It certainly becomes more palatable way to spend our resources, I'm not against secure borders, I'm against solutions that are worse than the problem.

View attachment 108965

Ladder and a rope - $100

Won't work on a 55' wall.

55? Make that 30 billion.

illigal immgration through mexican border is only a fraction of all illegal migration however.

60% is a "fraction?" And that includes all illegal aliens, not just the ones coming from Mexico.

Democrat standard for Republicans: You are allowed one and only one solution and it must fix 100% of the problem on its own

Democrat standard for Democrats: You tried, that's enough

 

[AntonToo]

Except it wasn't a 15 billion dollar wall, it was 4 billion fencing.

And it was impossible to build, resulted in tons of law suits, and did nothing to stem the flow of illegal immigration. That's why it was never finished. A total waste of money.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

And Trump is not doing same, he is doing something 4-5 times more expensive and way more intrusive into private properties.

lol So you would support it if it were less expensive and had fewer private property issues?

It certainly becomes more palatable way to spend our resources, I'm not against secure borders, I'm against solutions that are worse than the problem.

The solution is a one time expense. The problem is a broken ATM machine.

It is not one time expense.

Current fencing costs 250 million a year to upkeep. And estimates are that it would cost around 750 million a year to keep up 1000 miles of beautiful 30"+ wall.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

And it was impossible to build, resulted in tons of law suits, and did nothing to stem the flow of illegal immigration. That's why it was never finished. A total waste of money.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

And Trump is not doing same, he is doing something 4-5 times more expensive and way more intrusive into private properties.

lol So you would support it if it were less expensive and had fewer private property issues?

It certainly becomes more palatable way to spend our resources, I'm not against secure borders, I'm against solutions that are worse than the problem.

The solution is a one time expense. The problem is a broken ATM machine.

It is not one time expense.

Current fencing costs 250 million a year to upkeep. And estimates are that it would cost around 750 million a year to keep up 1000 miles of beautiful 30"+ wall.

That's because a fence is EASILY torn up in order to bypass it.

Little common sense?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

So, we will save that much not having to gives millions welfare.

What a ridiculous suggestion. There has been no mass migration from Mexico for years, and yet 11 million illegal immigrants are still there. And the government is letting thousands in with student visas, H1N1 visas, and tourist visas.

Once someone is IN your country, the costs continue, and as long as people can fly in, this is where your illegal immigration will continue to come from. The vast majority of illegal immigration is NOT coming across the border from Mexico. It's flying in, visas in hand, from all over the world, and there is nothing you can do to stop it, except to not let any non-citizen into your country.

Report: More Than 331,000 Illegal Immigrants Snagged at Southern Border in 2015
And that only counts the ones that were caught.

Stop talking out of your ass old lady

...what exactly do you think you disputed?

Her first fucking paragraph. Duh..

What she means is that there has been net reduction of Mexican illegals

That is not what she said. She spoke out of her ass

 

[AntonToo]

It certainly becomes more palatable way to spend our resources, I'm not against secure borders, I'm against solutions that are worse than the problem.

View attachment 108965

Ladder and a rope - $100

Won't work on a 55' wall.

55? Make that 30 billion.

illigal immgration through mexican border is only a fraction of all illegal migration however.

60% is a "fraction?" And that includes all illegal aliens, not just the ones coming from Mexico.

Democrat standard for Republicans: You are allowed one and only one solution and it must fix 100% of the problem on its own

Democrat standard for Democrats: You tried, that's enough

Where did you get 60% from? 40% is overstayed visas and we also have other borders.

Either way, on the cost of taking care of illegals, look at this break down

What this shows is a huge drop off in illegal immigration rate in recent years and the spending on illegals cited as justification for the wall is clearly inflated by many magnitudes