Gaetz “Ukraine Fatigue” Resolution suspends additional military & financial aid to Ukraine & urge combatants to reach a peace agreement immediately

[badger2]

And he is right. We can't continue to give money and weapons indefinitely. Basically, Russia is bleeding us dry with their war.

CIA-NATO expansion war.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Yes, you did fuck up. No one in my family has filed their taxes for 2022. W-2s had to be issue just 10 days ago. Have you ever filed income tax? Apparently not.

I have filed and got my return back already.

 

[Circe]

How does nuking Ukraine a country he wants to occupy further Putins aims exactly?

Well, tactical nukes against troop and tank concentrations are a known weapon capacity ---- it's theoretically a way to win battles. It's what MacArthur wanted to do to the Chinese and Truman wouldn't allow it.

 

[rightwinger]

Well, tactical nukes against troop and tank concentrations are a known weapon capacity ---- it's theoretically a way to win battles. It's what MacArthur wanted to do to the Chinese and Truman wouldn't allow it.

Why MacArthur got fired

 

[Circe]

Why MacArthur got fired

Yeah. What a scene on the airfield between them.

My husband is still indignant that Truman refused to let MacArthur win the war with nukes.

But it's been, let's see, 72 years since then and no nuclear war ----- all our full lifetimes. I'm thinking, just as well we didn't get endless nuclear war started at that time. I'm going with Truman on that.

 

[Couchpotato]

Well, tactical nukes against troop and tank concentrations are a known weapon capacity ---- it's theoretically a way to win battles. It's what MacArthur wanted to do to the Chinese and Truman wouldn't allow it.

We weren’t trying to occupy those areas though.

 

[Circe]

We weren’t trying to occupy those areas though.

I think we were: that was North Korea! The area the Chinese were "helping" the NKs fight for. Chinese poured over the border by the millions (surely that's an exaggeration? One reads it ---) or certainly could have, anyway, with five times our population ---- countless soldiers, no hope for us to win, not without something that would take them all out.

Which didn't happen, so we lost.

That was the first of our almost unrelenting war losses ever since.

 

[kyzr]

I already told you. Can you not read? Post #81. Try again, dumbass!

all you had to say was see post 81. Feel better calling people names?

 

[Leviticus]

Finland does not have domestic production of crude oil. Finland also has no domestic coal production. Just how stupid are you?

I meant Estonia not Finland. Mixed them up. Astonia has a lot of shale oil.

 

[Blaster]

And he is right. We can't continue to give money and weapons indefinitely. Basically, Russia is bleeding us dry with their war.

We have enough problems in our own country and yet the President is more focused on Ukraine.

 

[rightwinger]

Yeah. What a scene on the airfield between them.

My husband is still indignant that Truman refused to let MacArthur win the war with nukes.

But it's been, let's see, 72 years since then and no nuclear war ----- all our full lifetimes. I'm thinking, just as well we didn't get endless nuclear war started at that time. I'm going with Truman on that.

Mac Arthur was a great tactician but strategically he was a moron.
That was evident in WWII and Korea where he led us to 40,000 deaths

 

[rightwinger]

We have enough problems in our own country and yet the President is more focused on Ukraine.

Did you support the Afghanistan and Iraq invasions?

 

[Couchpotato]

Did you support the Afghanistan and Iraq invasions?

Having fought both those wars heres my perspective. The Afghanistan invasion initially yes. Just not the 20 years of mission creep. Iraq no. Though our biggest mistake in Iraq was disbanding the Iraq army because they were “Baathists“. Had we not done that the insurgency doesn’t happen and Iraq is likely a completely different outcome.

 

[Blaster]

Did you support the Afghanistan and Iraq invasions?

No.

 

[rightwinger]

Having fought both those wars heres my perspective. The Afghanistan invasion initially yes. Just not the 20 years of mission creep. Iraq no. Though our biggest mistake in Iraq was disbanding the Iraq army because they were “Baathists“. Had we not done that the insurgency doesn’t happen and Iraq is likely a completely different outcome.

Both were exercises in Nation Building unrelated to fighting terrorism

 

[Couchpotato]

Both were exercises in Nation Building unrelated to fighting terrorism

The initial invasion of Afghanistan wasnt. That was to hunt and kill OBL. It was the subsequent mission creep that turned it into Nation building.

 

[rightwinger]

The initial invasion of Afghanistan wasnt. That was to hunt and kill OBL. It was the subsequent mission creep that turned it into Nation building.

That is what we were told

But when OBL escaped into Pakistan, Bush called off the hunt

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

yes it’s deducted from your paycheck and paid to the irs.

So? It is NOT spent. Have a stupid fucking day!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I have filed and got my return back already.

So?

 

[Couchpotato]

That is what we were told

But when OBL escaped into Pakistan, Bush called off the hunt

We were hunting OBL right up until we killed him. What makes you think we weren’t?