George W. Bush Bashes Obama on Middle East

[mudwhistle]

Dubya's responsible for the current Mid East situation. He should have stayed holed up and quiet.

Perfect example of the far left mentality..

History of Iraq started in 2003 and caused 9/11..

Jimmy Carter's policies made Iran what it is today. Do you hear any president chastising him for it?

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

The Iraq Sanctions Myth Sanctions allegedly killed hundreds of thousands of children in Iraq and provided a rationale for invasion, a line still heard today. But those deaths almost certainly never happened.

http://www.psmag.com/politics/the-iraq-sanctions-myth-56433

Well the Left is the one that started that Myth, Gilligan. ROFL! Ya dumbass!

 

[Kosh]

You've yet to cite an illegal Obama war.

Why don't you simply name those wars, make the argument that they are illegal. Quite droning for a change and say something substantive.

By Illegal, are ya speaking of wars which the US engaged absent congressional approval?

That would be Libya... then there's the Benghazi thing, which I mention only because that was the harpinger of obama's formation of ISIS... which is presently campaigning in Iraq...

So there's two... we could of course count Egypt, which unseated the US Ally government there...

And it is arguable that obama has been at war WITH the US since he found power... having revered the gains established by President Bush... in the US Global War on Terrorism.

Does that help?

Do you understand the war powers act?

Yes! But obviously you do not! Par for the course for the far left propaganda drones..

 

[mudwhistle]

"George W. Bush Bashes Obama on Middle East"

Given the fact GWB started two failed, illegal wars in the region, he's in no position to 'bash' any president concerning the ME.

He's come down with an acute case of Cheneyism.

Be assured, the neocons will be trying to rewrite the history of Iraq from now until every one of them is dead.

For all the good it will do them.

GWB's failed, illegal wars will be as historically infamous as the Gulf of Tonkin charade, if not more so.

Like the wars Obama is fighting in Syria, Pakistan, and fought in Libya?

They are going on.......even though NBC isn't covering them.

 

[Coyote]

I always chuckle when leftists blame Dubya for taking out Saddam when they all said it had to be done but not one of them had the stones to do it:
Democrat Quotes on Iraq Weapons of Mass Destruction

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by:
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
-- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
-- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
-- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

I blame W for obsessing over Iraq, ignoring advice and selling a senseless poorly thought out war and I blame Congress for failing at their job, refusing to ask tough questions, and giving authority to what will undoubtly be considered the greatest foreign policy blunder of the 21st century.

What do you think those above quotes were about?

A bunch of out-of-context cherry picked quotes are meaningless

And yes I agree! Bush was like any human obsessive when it comes to starving children which OBVIOUSLY you cared very little about!
Here read the FACTS of how your hero Saddam the guy you'd still like to see in power using drills on people callously treated his starving children!

Do you? While you were obsessing on Iraq, children in the congo were starving, brutalized, raped with instruments that caused horrific injuries, and forced to become child-soldiers. Where was your concern? Where was your military invasion and regime change?

As many as 576,000 Iraqi children may have died since the end of the Persian Gulf war because of economic sanctions imposed by the Security Council, according to two scientists who surveyed the country for the Food and Agriculture Organization.
Iraq Sanctions Kill Children U.N. Reports - NYTimes.com

So the war ended in 1991 and 4 years later 576,000 Iraqi children died or about 144,000 a year.
From 1995 to 2003 is 8 years at the rate of 144,000 starving children a year that would be 1,152,000 starved and dead children from 1995 to 2003
All because Saddam would NOT certify that all the WMDs his son-in-law and others had built were destroyed.
Saddam was so convincing to everyone he had WMDs because MOST sane logical rational leaders would NEVER want 144,000 children to starve each year
if Saddam didn't have WMDs.

So the only solution to starvation was to start a war that has resulted in at least that many deaths and destabilized the ME and strengthened Iran's leverage in the region? You couldn't lift some sanctions? The war was based on very controversial intelligence and intelligence that ran counter to it was ignored.

That and Saddam's defected to the West son-in-law who was responsible for Iraq's WMDs
This was while Clinton was president and obviously didn't care about starving children due to the vicious UN sanctions on Saddam!
But of course you would have liked to seen 1.2 million more starve by leaving Saddam in power!!

Your selective concern for starving children is duly noted.

 

[danielpalos]

The right complained more about our lack of recourse to our exorbitantly expensive superpower.

 

[Coyote]

Ok. Only the last line makes coherent sense so we'll start there. It has nothing to do with "trust".

So this one spits out far left drone propaganda then tries to deny they are one..

Ignores Obama and his illegal wars, and his red line in the sand and his cut and run policies to appease the drones like you.

Bush decided it would be a good idea to play regime change in Iraq. A feat of ignorance and arrogance and a complete lack of the cultures and histories in play. Quick in and out. Result: a holocaust in Iraq. Supported a new Iraqi president that exacted sectarian revenge and corruption in governance. Now what do we have? Bush's legacy. Your pride and joy.

And the far left religious dogma rolls on..

Ever consider expanding your vocabulary a bit? I see you've now added a new word "dogma"...but there is so much more you can do to improve your communication. Are you proud of what you created in Iraq?

Ever consider to use your brain instead of being a far left religious propaganda drone?

I did not create anything in Iraq, see how these drones will deny being drones, yet post like one every chance they get.

So you still going to deny Obama's illegal wars?

Cool. You're expanding your vocabulary a teensy bit, but your obsession with drones is still a concern.

What illegal wars and what did they have to do with the Iraqi situation today?

 

[Coyote]

Ok. Only the last line makes coherent sense so we'll start there. It has nothing to do with "trust".

So this one spits out far left drone propaganda then tries to deny they are one..

Ignores Obama and his illegal wars, and his red line in the sand and his cut and run policies to appease the drones like you.

Bush decided it would be a good idea to play regime change in Iraq. A feat of ignorance and arrogance and a complete lack of the cultures and histories in play. Quick in and out. Result: a holocaust in Iraq. Supported a new Iraqi president that exacted sectarian revenge and corruption in governance. Now what do we have? Bush's legacy. Your pride and joy.

And the far left religious dogma rolls on..

Ever consider expanding your vocabulary a bit? I see you've now added a new word "dogma"...but there is so much more you can do to improve your communication. Are you proud of what you created in Iraq?

LOL! Coyote, that is pitiful... even for you.

Hush now. This is an educational effort for Kosh. Don't ruin it.

 

[mudwhistle]

So this one spits out far left drone propaganda then tries to deny they are one..

Ignores Obama and his illegal wars, and his red line in the sand and his cut and run policies to appease the drones like you.

Bush decided it would be a good idea to play regime change in Iraq. A feat of ignorance and arrogance and a complete lack of the cultures and histories in play. Quick in and out. Result: a holocaust in Iraq. Supported a new Iraqi president that exacted sectarian revenge and corruption in governance. Now what do we have? Bush's legacy. Your pride and joy.

And the far left religious dogma rolls on..

Ever consider expanding your vocabulary a bit? I see you've now added a new word "dogma"...but there is so much more you can do to improve your communication. Are you proud of what you created in Iraq?

Ever consider to use your brain instead of being a far left religious propaganda drone?

I did not create anything in Iraq, see how these drones will deny being drones, yet post like one every chance they get.

So you still going to deny Obama's illegal wars?

Cool. You're expanding your vocabulary a teensy bit, but your obsession with drones is still a concern.

What illegal wars and what did they have to do with the Iraqi situation today?

Pakistan, Syria, Libya, Yemen..........

 

[Kosh]

So this one spits out far left drone propaganda then tries to deny they are one..

Ignores Obama and his illegal wars, and his red line in the sand and his cut and run policies to appease the drones like you.

Bush decided it would be a good idea to play regime change in Iraq. A feat of ignorance and arrogance and a complete lack of the cultures and histories in play. Quick in and out. Result: a holocaust in Iraq. Supported a new Iraqi president that exacted sectarian revenge and corruption in governance. Now what do we have? Bush's legacy. Your pride and joy.

And the far left religious dogma rolls on..

Ever consider expanding your vocabulary a bit? I see you've now added a new word "dogma"...but there is so much more you can do to improve your communication. Are you proud of what you created in Iraq?

Ever consider to use your brain instead of being a far left religious propaganda drone?

I did not create anything in Iraq, see how these drones will deny being drones, yet post like one every chance they get.

So you still going to deny Obama's illegal wars?

Cool. You're expanding your vocabulary a teensy bit, but your obsession with drones is still a concern.

What illegal wars and what did they have to do with the Iraqi situation today?

Typical far left drone and denies the illegal wars including the one happening now in Iraq.

See this why the far left drones are very dangerous.

Show all the Congressional approval for all of Obama's actions in the region.

 

[Kosh]

So this one spits out far left drone propaganda then tries to deny they are one..

Ignores Obama and his illegal wars, and his red line in the sand and his cut and run policies to appease the drones like you.

Bush decided it would be a good idea to play regime change in Iraq. A feat of ignorance and arrogance and a complete lack of the cultures and histories in play. Quick in and out. Result: a holocaust in Iraq. Supported a new Iraqi president that exacted sectarian revenge and corruption in governance. Now what do we have? Bush's legacy. Your pride and joy.

And the far left religious dogma rolls on..

Ever consider expanding your vocabulary a bit? I see you've now added a new word "dogma"...but there is so much more you can do to improve your communication. Are you proud of what you created in Iraq?

LOL! Coyote, that is pitiful... even for you.

Hush now. This is an educational effort for Kosh. Don't ruin it.

Oh funny the far left spewing religious propaganda is trying to trying to claim they are trying to educate.

Now that is irony!!

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

I always chuckle when leftists blame Dubya for taking out Saddam when they all said it had to be done but not one of them had the stones to do it:
Democrat Quotes on Iraq Weapons of Mass Destruction

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by:
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
-- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
-- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
-- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

I blame W for obsessing over Iraq, ignoring advice and selling a senseless poorly thought out war and I blame Congress for failing at their job, refusing to ask tough questions, and giving authority to what will undoubtly be considered the greatest foreign policy blunder of the 21st century.

What do you think those above quotes were about?

A bunch of out-of-context cherry picked quotes are meaningless

And yes I agree! Bush was like any human obsessive when it comes to starving children which OBVIOUSLY you cared very little about!
Here read the FACTS of how your hero Saddam the guy you'd still like to see in power using drills on people callously treated his starving children!

Do you? While you were obsessing on Iraq, children in the congo were starving, brutalized, raped with instruments that caused horrific injuries, and forced to become child-soldiers. Where was your concern? Where was your military invasion and regime change?

As many as 576,000 Iraqi children may have died since the end of the Persian Gulf war because of economic sanctions imposed by the Security Council, according to two scientists who surveyed the country for the Food and Agriculture Organization.
Iraq Sanctions Kill Children U.N. Reports - NYTimes.com

So the war ended in 1991 and 4 years later 576,000 Iraqi children died or about 144,000 a year.
From 1995 to 2003 is 8 years at the rate of 144,000 starving children a year that would be 1,152,000 starved and dead children from 1995 to 2003
All because Saddam would NOT certify that all the WMDs his son-in-law and others had built were destroyed.
Saddam was so convincing to everyone he had WMDs because MOST sane logical rational leaders would NEVER want 144,000 children to starve each year
if Saddam didn't have WMDs.

So the only solution to starvation was to start a war that has resulted in at least that many deaths and destabilized the ME and strengthened Iran's leverage in the region? You couldn't lift some sanctions? The war was based on very controversial intelligence and intelligence that ran counter to it was ignored.

That and Saddam's defected to the West son-in-law who was responsible for Iraq's WMDs
This was while Clinton was president and obviously didn't care about starving children due to the vicious UN sanctions on Saddam!
But of course you would have liked to seen 1.2 million more starve by leaving Saddam in power!!

Your selective concern for starving children is duly noted.

Well President Hussein was starving those children... that's a fact. What is NOT a fact is the number of children who died as a result of US Sanctions. Zero children died as a result of US Sanctions.

US Sanctions came as a result of Iraqi behavior... thus responsibility for the deaths of Iraqis as a result of US Sanctions falls purely, wholly and solely TO: THE IRAQIS.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Bush decided it would be a good idea to play regime change in Iraq. A feat of ignorance and arrogance and a complete lack of the cultures and histories in play. Quick in and out. Result: a holocaust in Iraq. Supported a new Iraqi president that exacted sectarian revenge and corruption in governance. Now what do we have? Bush's legacy. Your pride and joy.

And the far left religious dogma rolls on..

Ever consider expanding your vocabulary a bit? I see you've now added a new word "dogma"...but there is so much more you can do to improve your communication. Are you proud of what you created in Iraq?

LOL! Coyote, that is pitiful... even for you.

Hush now. This is an educational effort for Kosh. Don't ruin it.

Oh funny the far left spewing religious propaganda is trying to trying to claim they are trying to educate.

Now that is irony!!

A DELICIOUSLY SWEET Irony, INDEED!

 

[Kosh]

I always chuckle when leftists blame Dubya for taking out Saddam when they all said it had to be done but not one of them had the stones to do it:
Democrat Quotes on Iraq Weapons of Mass Destruction

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by:
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
-- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
-- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
-- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

I blame W for obsessing over Iraq, ignoring advice and selling a senseless poorly thought out war and I blame Congress for failing at their job, refusing to ask tough questions, and giving authority to what will undoubtly be considered the greatest foreign policy blunder of the 21st century.

What do you think those above quotes were about?

A bunch of out-of-context cherry picked quotes are meaningless

And yes I agree! Bush was like any human obsessive when it comes to starving children which OBVIOUSLY you cared very little about!
Here read the FACTS of how your hero Saddam the guy you'd still like to see in power using drills on people callously treated his starving children!

Do you? While you were obsessing on Iraq, children in the congo were starving, brutalized, raped with instruments that caused horrific injuries, and forced to become child-soldiers. Where was your concern? Where was your military invasion and regime change?

As many as 576,000 Iraqi children may have died since the end of the Persian Gulf war because of economic sanctions imposed by the Security Council, according to two scientists who surveyed the country for the Food and Agriculture Organization.
Iraq Sanctions Kill Children U.N. Reports - NYTimes.com

So the war ended in 1991 and 4 years later 576,000 Iraqi children died or about 144,000 a year.
From 1995 to 2003 is 8 years at the rate of 144,000 starving children a year that would be 1,152,000 starved and dead children from 1995 to 2003
All because Saddam would NOT certify that all the WMDs his son-in-law and others had built were destroyed.
Saddam was so convincing to everyone he had WMDs because MOST sane logical rational leaders would NEVER want 144,000 children to starve each year
if Saddam didn't have WMDs.

So the only solution to starvation was to start a war that has resulted in at least that many deaths and destabilized the ME and strengthened Iran's leverage in the region? You couldn't lift some sanctions? The war was based on very controversial intelligence and intelligence that ran counter to it was ignored.

That and Saddam's defected to the West son-in-law who was responsible for Iraq's WMDs
This was while Clinton was president and obviously didn't care about starving children due to the vicious UN sanctions on Saddam!
But of course you would have liked to seen 1.2 million more starve by leaving Saddam in power!!

Your selective concern for starving children is duly noted.

Well President Hussein was starving those children... that's a fact. What is NOT a fact is the number of children who died as a result of US Sanctions. Zero children died as a result of US Sanctions.

US Sanctions came as a result of Iraqi behavior... thus responsibility for the deaths of Iraqis as a result of US Sanctions falls purely, wholly and solely TO: THE IRAQIS.

Sanctions only hurt the people being repressed, not the dictator repressing them..

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

I always chuckle when leftists blame Dubya for taking out Saddam when they all said it had to be done but not one of them had the stones to do it:
Democrat Quotes on Iraq Weapons of Mass Destruction

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by:
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
-- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
-- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
-- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

I blame W for obsessing over Iraq, ignoring advice and selling a senseless poorly thought out war and I blame Congress for failing at their job, refusing to ask tough questions, and giving authority to what will undoubtly be considered the greatest foreign policy blunder of the 21st century.

What do you think those above quotes were about?

A bunch of out-of-context cherry picked quotes are meaningless

And yes I agree! Bush was like any human obsessive when it comes to starving children which OBVIOUSLY you cared very little about!
Here read the FACTS of how your hero Saddam the guy you'd still like to see in power using drills on people callously treated his starving children!

Do you? While you were obsessing on Iraq, children in the congo were starving, brutalized, raped with instruments that caused horrific injuries, and forced to become child-soldiers. Where was your concern? Where was your military invasion and regime change?

As many as 576,000 Iraqi children may have died since the end of the Persian Gulf war because of economic sanctions imposed by the Security Council, according to two scientists who surveyed the country for the Food and Agriculture Organization.
Iraq Sanctions Kill Children U.N. Reports - NYTimes.com

So the war ended in 1991 and 4 years later 576,000 Iraqi children died or about 144,000 a year.
From 1995 to 2003 is 8 years at the rate of 144,000 starving children a year that would be 1,152,000 starved and dead children from 1995 to 2003
All because Saddam would NOT certify that all the WMDs his son-in-law and others had built were destroyed.
Saddam was so convincing to everyone he had WMDs because MOST sane logical rational leaders would NEVER want 144,000 children to starve each year
if Saddam didn't have WMDs.

So the only solution to starvation was to start a war that has resulted in at least that many deaths and destabilized the ME and strengthened Iran's leverage in the region? You couldn't lift some sanctions? The war was based on very controversial intelligence and intelligence that ran counter to it was ignored.

That and Saddam's defected to the West son-in-law who was responsible for Iraq's WMDs
This was while Clinton was president and obviously didn't care about starving children due to the vicious UN sanctions on Saddam!
But of course you would have liked to seen 1.2 million more starve by leaving Saddam in power!!

Your selective concern for starving children is duly noted.

Well President Hussein was starving those children... that's a fact. What is NOT a fact is the number of children who died as a result of US Sanctions. Zero children died as a result of US Sanctions.

US Sanctions came as a result of Iraqi behavior... thus responsibility for the deaths of Iraqis as a result of US Sanctions falls purely, wholly and solely TO: THE IRAQIS.

Sanctions only hurt the people being repressed, not the dictator repressing them..

So true... But they do point to the fact that people should probably not allow themselves to be governed by a dictator. The responsibility for their poor decisions, regardless of how they came to them, is THEIRS and THEIRS ALONE.

Which, just to be sure I'm being clear here, MEANS: That the RESPONSIBILITY for the US invasion of Iraq... and the US Conquering the Iraqis... FALLS TO THE IRAQIS...

And I know ALL ABOUT how the story wherein the narrative reads: 'We did NOT Conquer the Iraqis, but we 'freed them'...'

IN TRUTH... WE CONQUERED THEM... AND WE CONQUERED THE SHIT OUT OF THEM... AND RETURNED THEM TO FREEDOM.

An altruism in human military history, which has only been provided by ONE NATION and ONE SPECIES OF REASONING WITHIN THAT NATION.

With the NATION being: The United States.

And the Species of Reasoning being: AMERICAN!

 

[healthmyths]

I blame W for obsessing over Iraq, ignoring advice and selling a senseless poorly thought out war and I blame Congress for failing at their job, refusing to ask tough questions, and giving authority to what will undoubtly be considered the greatest foreign policy blunder of the 21st century.

What do you think those above quotes were about?

A bunch of out-of-context cherry picked quotes are meaningless

And yes I agree! Bush was like any human obsessive when it comes to starving children which OBVIOUSLY you cared very little about!
Here read the FACTS of how your hero Saddam the guy you'd still like to see in power using drills on people callously treated his starving children!

Do you? While you were obsessing on Iraq, children in the congo were starving, brutalized, raped with instruments that caused horrific injuries, and forced to become child-soldiers. Where was your concern? Where was your military invasion and regime change?

As many as 576,000 Iraqi children may have died since the end of the Persian Gulf war because of economic sanctions imposed by the Security Council, according to two scientists who surveyed the country for the Food and Agriculture Organization.
Iraq Sanctions Kill Children U.N. Reports - NYTimes.com

So the war ended in 1991 and 4 years later 576,000 Iraqi children died or about 144,000 a year.
From 1995 to 2003 is 8 years at the rate of 144,000 starving children a year that would be 1,152,000 starved and dead children from 1995 to 2003
All because Saddam would NOT certify that all the WMDs his son-in-law and others had built were destroyed.
Saddam was so convincing to everyone he had WMDs because MOST sane logical rational leaders would NEVER want 144,000 children to starve each year
if Saddam didn't have WMDs.

So the only solution to starvation was to start a war that has resulted in at least that many deaths and destabilized the ME and strengthened Iran's leverage in the region? You couldn't lift some sanctions? The war was based on very controversial intelligence and intelligence that ran counter to it was ignored.

That and Saddam's defected to the West son-in-law who was responsible for Iraq's WMDs
This was while Clinton was president and obviously didn't care about starving children due to the vicious UN sanctions on Saddam!
But of course you would have liked to seen 1.2 million more starve by leaving Saddam in power!!

Your selective concern for starving children is duly noted.

Well President Hussein was starving those children... that's a fact. What is NOT a fact is the number of children who died as a result of US Sanctions. Zero children died as a result of US Sanctions.

US Sanctions came as a result of Iraqi behavior... thus responsibility for the deaths of Iraqis as a result of US Sanctions falls purely, wholly and solely TO: THE IRAQIS.

Sanctions only hurt the people being repressed, not the dictator repressing them..

So true... But they do point to the fact that people should probably not allow themselves to be governed by a dictator. The responsibility for their poor decisions, regardless of how they came to them, is THEIRS and THEIRS ALONE.

Spoken as a truly dispassionate, uncaring person who doesn't have any humanity.

 

[healthmyths]

I always chuckle when leftists blame Dubya for taking out Saddam when they all said it had to be done but not one of them had the stones to do it:
Democrat Quotes on Iraq Weapons of Mass Destruction

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by:
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
-- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
-- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
-- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

I blame W for obsessing over Iraq, ignoring advice and selling a senseless poorly thought out war and I blame Congress for failing at their job, refusing to ask tough questions, and giving authority to what will undoubtly be considered the greatest foreign policy blunder of the 21st century.

What do you think those above quotes were about?

A bunch of out-of-context cherry picked quotes are meaningless

And yes I agree! Bush was like any human obsessive when it comes to starving children which OBVIOUSLY you cared very little about!
Here read the FACTS of how your hero Saddam the guy you'd still like to see in power using drills on people callously treated his starving children!

Do you? While you were obsessing on Iraq, children in the congo were starving, brutalized, raped with instruments that caused horrific injuries, and forced to become child-soldiers. Where was your concern? Where was your military invasion and regime change?

As many as 576,000 Iraqi children may have died since the end of the Persian Gulf war because of economic sanctions imposed by the Security Council, according to two scientists who surveyed the country for the Food and Agriculture Organization.
Iraq Sanctions Kill Children U.N. Reports - NYTimes.com

So the war ended in 1991 and 4 years later 576,000 Iraqi children died or about 144,000 a year.
From 1995 to 2003 is 8 years at the rate of 144,000 starving children a year that would be 1,152,000 starved and dead children from 1995 to 2003
All because Saddam would NOT certify that all the WMDs his son-in-law and others had built were destroyed.
Saddam was so convincing to everyone he had WMDs because MOST sane logical rational leaders would NEVER want 144,000 children to starve each year
if Saddam didn't have WMDs.

So the only solution to starvation was to start a war that has resulted in at least that many deaths and destabilized the ME and strengthened Iran's leverage in the region? You couldn't lift some sanctions? The war was based on very controversial intelligence and intelligence that ran counter to it was ignored.

That and Saddam's defected to the West son-in-law who was responsible for Iraq's WMDs
This was while Clinton was president and obviously didn't care about starving children due to the vicious UN sanctions on Saddam!
But of course you would have liked to seen 1.2 million more starve by leaving Saddam in power!!

Your selective concern for starving children is duly noted.

Take it up with the UN as they were the ones to put the sanctions on!

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

So true... But they do point to the fact that people should probably not allow themselves to be governed by a dictator. The responsibility for their poor decisions, regardless of how they came to them, is THEIRS and THEIRS ALONE.

Spoken as a truly dispassionate, uncaring person who doesn't have any humanity.

It was spoken by an American who understands the laws of nature that govern human behavior... .

You can color it in any way ya like, but those facts are immutable scamp... and they aren't subject to being altered, because you feel otherwise.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

I always chuckle when leftists blame Dubya for taking out Saddam when they all said it had to be done but not one of them had the stones to do it:
Democrat Quotes on Iraq Weapons of Mass Destruction

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by:
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
-- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
-- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
-- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

I blame W for obsessing over Iraq, ignoring advice and selling a senseless poorly thought out war and I blame Congress for failing at their job, refusing to ask tough questions, and giving authority to what will undoubtly be considered the greatest foreign policy blunder of the 21st century.

What do you think those above quotes were about?

A bunch of out-of-context cherry picked quotes are meaningless

And yes I agree! Bush was like any human obsessive when it comes to starving children which OBVIOUSLY you cared very little about!
Here read the FACTS of how your hero Saddam the guy you'd still like to see in power using drills on people callously treated his starving children!

Do you? While you were obsessing on Iraq, children in the congo were starving, brutalized, raped with instruments that caused horrific injuries, and forced to become child-soldiers. Where was your concern? Where was your military invasion and regime change?

As many as 576,000 Iraqi children may have died since the end of the Persian Gulf war because of economic sanctions imposed by the Security Council, according to two scientists who surveyed the country for the Food and Agriculture Organization.
Iraq Sanctions Kill Children U.N. Reports - NYTimes.com

So the war ended in 1991 and 4 years later 576,000 Iraqi children died or about 144,000 a year.
From 1995 to 2003 is 8 years at the rate of 144,000 starving children a year that would be 1,152,000 starved and dead children from 1995 to 2003
All because Saddam would NOT certify that all the WMDs his son-in-law and others had built were destroyed.
Saddam was so convincing to everyone he had WMDs because MOST sane logical rational leaders would NEVER want 144,000 children to starve each year
if Saddam didn't have WMDs.

So the only solution to starvation was to start a war that has resulted in at least that many deaths and destabilized the ME and strengthened Iran's leverage in the region? You couldn't lift some sanctions? The war was based on very controversial intelligence and intelligence that ran counter to it was ignored.

That and Saddam's defected to the West son-in-law who was responsible for Iraq's WMDs
This was while Clinton was president and obviously didn't care about starving children due to the vicious UN sanctions on Saddam!
But of course you would have liked to seen 1.2 million more starve by leaving Saddam in power!!

Your selective concern for starving children is duly noted.

Take it up with the UN as they were the ones to put the sanctions on!

Yeah... but the US IS the UN... and any aspect of the UN that is NOT the US... is irrelevant.

(The third world hovels HATE it when that is pointed out, but the facts are what they are and those BE the facts.)

 

[LoneLaugher]

I always chuckle when leftists blame Dubya for taking out Saddam when they all said it had to be done but not one of them had the stones to do it:
Democrat Quotes on Iraq Weapons of Mass Destruction

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by:
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
-- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
-- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
-- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

Well said. It's all absolute truth. But Relativists are incapable of recognizing the truth. It's the same evil that precluded the Jews from resigning Christ as God incarnate.

They're evil and they act as one should reasonably expect evil to act.

Now you are saying Jews are evil?

What? You aren't aware of evil Jews?

ROFLMNAO! Based upon what? You've never heard of George Soros?

LOL! Count the Jews that voted for obama and you will find evil Jews to the last one.

Count the ones that lead Christ to Pilot through a bed of lies... And that is the same evil in those Jews.

We (those who possess the spirit of God) know they're evil by their inability to recognize the truth. You're no different. If you prefer the scientific diagnosis it's known as Relativism. In historic terms, you're just evil.

Any questions?

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