George Zimmerman's bloody head

[Contumacious]

Do you have the slightest clue why Zimmerman has his ass back in jail right now?

1- because prosecutor Corey is corrupt

2- because she has --somehow -- acquired judicial immunity so she can stick it to any defendant with impunity

903.046 Purpose of and criteria for bail determination.—

(1) The purpose of a bail determination in criminal proceedings is to ensure the appearance of the criminal defendant at subsequent proceedings and to protect the community against unreasonable danger from the criminal defendant.

The point is that the statute permits the court to court to release a defendant on his own recognizance.

So in this case where there is NO EVIDENCE of guilt bail should have not been required. Even if there was a concern about him being a flight risk that was disproven by the fact that he turned himself in without delay.

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[paperview]

I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: "O Lord make my enemies ridiculous." And God granted it. - Voltaire

 

[Ravi]

I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: "O Lord make my enemies ridiculous." And God granted it. - Voltaire

Oh my, did he ever. That guy you're arguing with is an idiot.

 

[paperview]

I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: "O Lord make my enemies ridiculous." And God granted it. - Voltaire

Oh my, did he ever. That guy you're arguing with is an idiot.

Every time I see his/her name, all I see is Comatose.

S/he/it has to be, to be making the kind of mind-bleedingly moronic assertions I am seeing here.

 

[Contumacious]

I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: "O Lord make my enemies ridiculous." And God granted it. - Voltaire

Oh my, did he ever. That guy you're arguing with is an idiot.

Every time I see his/her name, all I see is Comatose.

S/he/it has to be, to be making the kind of mind-bleedingly moronic assertions I am seeing here.

Why can't you simply say that you want the powers-that-be to arbitrarily incarcerate the fellow because you have an agenda which you can not defend

903.046 Purpose of and criteria for bail determination.—

(1) The purpose of a bail determination in criminal proceedings is to ensure the appearance of the criminal defendant at subsequent proceedings and to protect the community against unreasonable danger from the criminal defendant.

The point is that the statute permits the court to court to release a defendant on his own recognizance.

So in this case where there is NO EVIDENCE of guilt bail should have not been required. Even if there was a concern about him being a flight risk that was disproven by the fact that he turned himself in without delay.

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[Inthemiddle]

You are the pathetic POS on this thread, jack.

You have not yet posted a single thing worth my time and I suspect most agree.

Which is why you're taking the time to read everything I've said, and why you're bothering to reply.

Your sole tactic is to try and kill any discussion by acting like a jack ass as much as you can and run people off.

No.

Fuck you.

Actually, I like women, so Imma pass on that one.

 

[Inthemiddle]

The point is that the statute permits the court to court to release a defendant on his own recognizance.

So in this case where there is NO EVIDENCE of guilt bail should have not been required. Even if there was a concern about him being a flight risk that was disproven by the fact that he turned himself in without delay.

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No.

 

[Inthemiddle]

903.046 Purpose of and criteria for bail determination.—

(1) The purpose of a bail determination in criminal proceedings is to ensure the appearance of the criminal defendant at subsequent proceedings and to protect the community against unreasonable danger from the criminal defendant.

The point is that the statute permits the court to court to release a defendant on his own recognizance.

So in this case where there is NO EVIDENCE of guilt bail should have not been required. Even if there was a concern about him being a flight risk that was disproven by the fact that he turned himself in without delay.

Just because the statute permits PR does not mean that it necessitates it. The court set a bail that was intended to ensure Zimmerman's appearance, based on the financial information provided by the defendant. For Zimmerman to lie about his finances, it gives the court sufficient reason for concern that the previously established bond is insufficient to secure Zimmerman's appearance because it demonstrates a willingness to disregard the law. With so much financial resources at his disposal, his documented history of disregarding the law (to include this recent lie), and his own complaints about his safety being in jeopardy, the court is well within its discretion to revoke bail.

 

[Contumacious]

903.046 Purpose of and criteria for bail determination.—

(1) The purpose of a bail determination in criminal proceedings is to ensure the appearance of the criminal defendant at subsequent proceedings and to protect the community against unreasonable danger from the criminal defendant.

The point is that the statute permits the court to court to release a defendant on his own recognizance.

So in this case where there is NO EVIDENCE of guilt bail should have not been required. Even if there was a concern about him being a flight risk that was disproven by the fact that he turned himself in without delay.

Just because the statute permits PR does not mean that it necessitates it. The court set a bail that was intended to ensure Zimmerman's appearance, based on the financial information provided by the defendant. .

Bullshit.

Just because the statute allows the LEGAL DISCRETION to demand a cash bond does not mean that it was necessary in this case.

Just because the Rev Al Sharpton and the Negro Defense League was involved should have NOT influenced the judge or prosecutor.

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[paperview]

903.046 Purpose of and criteria for bail determination.—

(1) The purpose of a bail determination in criminal proceedings is to ensure the appearance of the criminal defendant at subsequent proceedings and to protect the community against unreasonable danger from the criminal defendant.

The point is that the statute permits the court to court to release a defendant on his own recognizance.

So in this case where there is NO EVIDENCE of guilt bail should have not been required. Even if there was a concern about him being a flight risk that was disproven by the fact that he turned himself in without delay.

Just because the statute permits PR does not mean that it necessitates it. The court set a bail that was intended to ensure Zimmerman's appearance, based on the financial information provided by the defendant. .

Bullshit.

Just because the statute allows the LEGAL DISCRETION to demand a cash bond does not mean that it was necessary in this case.

Just because the Rev Al Sharpton and the Negro Defense League was involved should have NOT influenced the judge or prosecutor.

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Ah, now we're getting to the heart of it, you're not just a stupid fuck, you're a racist stupid fuck.

Thanks for confirming.

 

[Gadawg73]

Bail and the amount were not unreasonable in this case.
This is moot anyway. Zimmerman will be out shortly on the evidence.

 

[Inthemiddle]

Just because the statute allows the LEGAL DISCRETION to demand a cash bond does not mean that it was necessary in this case.

Sit down before you hurt yourself. Zimmerman is charged with a serious crime. The more serious a crime, the more likely a person is to attempt to flee and avoid having to face his charges. This is a simple fact that has been understood in criminal procedure for centuries, and hence why bail exists. It is up to the court to determine an appropriate bond that the court finds sufficient to secure a defendant's appearance, based on the circumstances. You seem to think that from the get-go Zimmerman should have been released on PR. That is an extraordinary claim. While the law always allows for PR, I challenge you to find a single example in the past ten years when a defendant charged with second degree murder has been released on PR. Furthermore, if you are going to even make the claim that PR should have been granted, you have the burden to substantiate that claim and explain why the court should have been satisfied that Zimmerman would appear simply on his own say-so, anymore than any other person facing a similar charge who was subsequently required to post a bond.

Moving forward from there, what you're not understanding is that the fact that Zimmerman lied about his financial situation in his application for bail creates sufficient cause to revoke bail, regardless of what the original bail was set at. Even if Zimmerman had been granted PR, the fact that he lied creates a reasonable concern that Zimmerman's future appearances have not be secured, because by lying to the court the defendant has demonstrated a disregard for the law in general, and for this court particularly. Especially when coupled with Zimmerman's past, the judge is absolutely correct to say that Zimmerman does not respect the law. Accordingly, he cannot be trusted to appear back in court based on nothing more than his own say so.

He lied. He lied to the court, and therefore cannot be trusted. That's what you have to get through your head. THAT is what matters in this. The fact that Zimmerman intentionally deceived the court.

 

[Contumacious]

Just because the statute permits PR does not mean that it necessitates it. The court set a bail that was intended to ensure Zimmerman's appearance, based on the financial information provided by the defendant. .

Bullshit.

Just because the statute allows the LEGAL DISCRETION to demand a cash bond does not mean that it was necessary in this case.

Just because the Rev Al Sharpton and the Negro Defense League was involved should have NOT influenced the judge or prosecutor.

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Ah, now we're getting to the heart of it, you're not just a stupid fuck, you're a racist stupid fuck.

Thanks for confirming.

No, to the contrary.

YOU are the racist stupid fuck

You are supposed to be demanding JUSTICE ACROSS THE BOARD BASED ON FACTS ,ie, EVIDENCE.

But you are saying that because he is white and killed a Negro that he deserves a miscarriage of justice.

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[Gadawg73]

903.046 Purpose of and criteria for bail determination.—

(1) The purpose of a bail determination in criminal proceedings is to ensure the appearance of the criminal defendant at subsequent proceedings and to protect the community against unreasonable danger from the criminal defendant.

The point is that the statute permits the court to court to release a defendant on his own recognizance.

So in this case where there is NO EVIDENCE of guilt bail should have not been required. Even if there was a concern about him being a flight risk that was disproven by the fact that he turned himself in without delay.

Just because the statute permits PR does not mean that it necessitates it. The court set a bail that was intended to ensure Zimmerman's appearance, based on the financial information provided by the defendant. .

Bullshit.

Just because the statute allows the LEGAL DISCRETION to demand a cash bond does not mean that it was necessary in this case.

Just because the Rev Al Sharpton and the Negro Defense League was involved should have NOT influenced the judge or prosecutor.

.

Bail in a murder case is the norm.

 

[Contumacious]

[ Zimmerman is charged with a serious crime.

Bullshit says a Renowned Constitutional Attorney

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4fr5QwG63M"]Alan Dershowitz: Zimmerman Arrest Affidavit "Irresponsible And Unethical"[/ame]

 

[Gadawg73]

Just because the statute allows the LEGAL DISCRETION to demand a cash bond does not mean that it was necessary in this case.

Sit down before you hurt yourself. Zimmerman is charged with a serious crime. The more serious a crime, the more likely a person is to attempt to flee and avoid having to face his charges. This is a simple fact that has been understood in criminal procedure for centuries, and hence why bail exists. It is up to the court to determine an appropriate bond that the court finds sufficient to secure a defendant's appearance, based on the circumstances. You seem to think that from the get-go Zimmerman should have been released on PR. That is an extraordinary claim. While the law always allows for PR, I challenge you to find a single example in the past ten years when a defendant charged with second degree murder has been released on PR. Furthermore, if you are going to even make the claim that PR should have been granted, you have the burden to substantiate that claim and explain why the court should have been satisfied that Zimmerman would appear simply on his own say-so, anymore than any other person facing a similar charge who was subsequently required to post a bond.

Moving forward from there, what you're not understanding is that the fact that Zimmerman lied about his financial situation in his application for bail creates sufficient cause to revoke bail, regardless of what the original bail was set at. Even if Zimmerman had been granted PR, the fact that he lied creates a reasonable concern that Zimmerman's future appearances have not be secured, because by lying to the court the defendant has demonstrated a disregard for the law in general, and for this court particularly. Especially when coupled with Zimmerman's past, the judge is absolutely correct to say that Zimmerman does not respect the law. Accordingly, he cannot be trusted to appear back in court based on nothing more than his own say so.

He lied. He lied to the court, and therefore cannot be trusted. That's what you have to get through your head. THAT is what matters in this. The fact that Zimmerman intentionally deceived the court.

You are right, he is charged.
You have already convicted him.

 

[Gadawg73]

Just because the statute allows the LEGAL DISCRETION to demand a cash bond does not mean that it was necessary in this case.

Sit down before you hurt yourself. Zimmerman is charged with a serious crime. The more serious a crime, the more likely a person is to attempt to flee and avoid having to face his charges. This is a simple fact that has been understood in criminal procedure for centuries, and hence why bail exists. It is up to the court to determine an appropriate bond that the court finds sufficient to secure a defendant's appearance, based on the circumstances. You seem to think that from the get-go Zimmerman should have been released on PR. That is an extraordinary claim. While the law always allows for PR, I challenge you to find a single example in the past ten years when a defendant charged with second degree murder has been released on PR. Furthermore, if you are going to even make the claim that PR should have been granted, you have the burden to substantiate that claim and explain why the court should have been satisfied that Zimmerman would appear simply on his own say-so, anymore than any other person facing a similar charge who was subsequently required to post a bond.

Moving forward from there, what you're not understanding is that the fact that Zimmerman lied about his financial situation in his application for bail creates sufficient cause to revoke bail, regardless of what the original bail was set at. Even if Zimmerman had been granted PR, the fact that he lied creates a reasonable concern that Zimmerman's future appearances have not be secured, because by lying to the court the defendant has demonstrated a disregard for the law in general, and for this court particularly. Especially when coupled with Zimmerman's past, the judge is absolutely correct to say that Zimmerman does not respect the law. Accordingly, he cannot be trusted to appear back in court based on nothing more than his own say so.

He lied. He lied to the court, and therefore cannot be trusted. That's what you have to get through your head. THAT is what matters in this. The fact that Zimmerman intentionally deceived the court.

None of the bail information is admissable in his case other than remand.

 

[paperview]

Just because the statute allows the LEGAL DISCRETION to demand a cash bond does not mean that it was necessary in this case.

Sit down before you hurt yourself. Zimmerman is charged with a serious crime. The more serious a crime, the more likely a person is to attempt to flee and avoid having to face his charges. This is a simple fact that has been understood in criminal procedure for centuries, and hence why bail exists. It is up to the court to determine an appropriate bond that the court finds sufficient to secure a defendant's appearance, based on the circumstances. You seem to think that from the get-go Zimmerman should have been released on PR. That is an extraordinary claim. While the law always allows for PR, I challenge you to find a single example in the past ten years when a defendant charged with second degree murder has been released on PR. Furthermore, if you are going to even make the claim that PR should have been granted, you have the burden to substantiate that claim and explain why the court should have been satisfied that Zimmerman would appear simply on his own say-so, anymore than any other person facing a similar charge who was subsequently required to post a bond.

Moving forward from there, what you're not understanding is that the fact that Zimmerman lied about his financial situation in his application for bail creates sufficient cause to revoke bail, regardless of what the original bail was set at. Even if Zimmerman had been granted PR, the fact that he lied creates a reasonable concern that Zimmerman's future appearances have not be secured, because by lying to the court the defendant has demonstrated a disregard for the law in general, and for this court particularly. Especially when coupled with Zimmerman's past, the judge is absolutely correct to say that Zimmerman does not respect the law. Accordingly, he cannot be trusted to appear back in court based on nothing more than his own say so.

He lied. He lied to the court, and therefore cannot be trusted. That's what you have to get through your head. THAT is what matters in this. The fact that Zimmerman intentionally deceived the court.

None of the bail information is admissable in his case other than remand.

It could very well be admissible.

There were certainly be a fight to exclude it, and a fight to include it.

If GZ opts for a SYG hearing, all that doesn't matter, does it? The judge knows how Z now lacks credibility. And he's the one that matters.

 

[Inthemiddle]

If Zimmerman takes the stand in his own defense, he can be attacked on credibility just like any other witness on cross examination, including his history of lying to the court.

 

[Gadawg73]

If Zimmerman takes the stand in his own defense, he can be attacked on credibility just like any other witness on cross examination, including his history of lying to the court.

Wrong dumb ass, keep your day job of "Do you want fries with that?".
The bail hearings and everything associated is prejudicial to the jury. ONLY prior convictions are relevant and admissable if they are similar transactions.
Lying in a bail report sheet is not admissable in a murder case as it is irrelevant to the murder charge.
And it gets even better Moe, it was his wife Shellie that filled it out and she was the one arrested for the perjury.Something about the law which you know nothing about.
Zimmerman will be released after the hearing on the 29th.