George Zimmerman's bloody head

What is really informative is how people jump to the conclusion that he was abusing the drugs. If we discovered that Martin was taking the drugs would you think he was abusing them, and that he was actually casing the neighborhood to support his habit?

I notice that the Prosecutor hasn't released Trayvon's toxicology report. Most likely, it's because Travyon tested positive for illegal drugs. And, no, the racist shitheads who point to a little ADHD medicine to condemn Zimmerman won't condemn Trayvon for any amount of drugs in his system (or for Trayvon's undeniable history of drug abuse).

ADHD medicine is slow released, designed to ease mental restlessness. It normally doesn't in the least cause aggressiveness.
 
Because we have an epidemic of substance abuse/dependence of prescription narcotics in this country.

Rush got addicted to PRESCRIBED pain meds. So, yeah. I agree.

Actually, statistics prove that the abuse of all drugs, including prescription drugs, is pretty stable over time with a slight downward trend. That is not what I would call an epidemic.

I didn't suggest that it was an epidemic. But I do agree that one CAN get addicted to prescribed medication.
 
Bottom line: this earth shattering news comes from the FAMILY doctor, and NOT from an official hospital report FROM THAT NIGHT that corroborates with the EMT report.

The video FROM THAT NIGHT DOES NOT SUPPORT THIS LATEST STATEMENT.

And the band played on.
 
Because we have an epidemic of substance abuse/dependence of prescription narcotics in this country.

Rush got addicted to PRESCRIBED pain meds. So, yeah. I agree.

Actually, statistics prove that the abuse of all drugs, including prescription drugs, is pretty stable over time with a slight downward trend. That is not what I would call an epidemic.

In my state, tough sentencing has put many of the dealers in prison. Physicians have had their licenses yanked, and many of the "pain clinics" have been shut down. The "clinics" also advertised about the dangers of "stress". Still, Florida is not without pill mills. And prescription drug abuse remains the most serious substance abuse problem in the country; I would put alcohol right beside pills myself.

A 26 year old man taking amphetamines and tranquilizers, LEGALLY, remains a drug user. the unusual defense of this man, and the heated defense of his drug use, is yet another sign of a nationwide drug problem.
 
No, but I would guess Adult ADHD and anxiety as that is what those drugs treat.

I have to say here, putting someone with control issues that walked around with a loaded gun in a neighborhood watch program was a pretty fucking stupid thing to do.

You personally know of a mom who made a fucking stupid decision to not get an abortion.

Zimmerman hasn't been convicted of any crimes that he should have his second-amendment rights denied him. And, thank God, else he couldn't have plugged that African-American piece-of-shit to save his life.
How does any of your rant negate what I said?
 
I have to say here, putting someone with control issues that walked around with a loaded gun in a neighborhood watch program was a pretty fucking stupid thing to do.

You personally know of a mom who made a fucking stupid decision to not get an abortion.

Zimmerman hasn't been convicted of any crimes that he should have his second-amendment rights denied him. And, thank God, else he couldn't have plugged that African-American piece-of-shit to save his life.
How does any of your rant negate what I said?

Ravi, you know I wouldn't normally interject myself on your behalf, but just for the novelty of it let me point out that --

you are actually attempting to have a rational conversation with Ariux? With ARIUX?

Really?
 
Unless he admits to taking them, yes, it does. My guess is you are perfectly aware that, just because a doctor prescribes something, it does not mean that people actually take it.

It's more informative to me that Zimmermann had two prescriptions for two drugs that have a high potential for abuse.

Though, I am sure he really needed to treat that Adult ADHD.

He was probably working on quantum physics when he wasn't staring into a mirror saying: "you talking to me"?

What is really informative is how people jump to the conclusion that he was abusing the drugs. If we discovered that Martin was taking the drugs would you think he was abusing them, and that he was actually casing the neighborhood to support his habit?

There was quite a bit of discussion about marijuana residue in a plastic bag that resulted in the victim being suspended from school. RGS gets angry when the killer's drug use is noted. I live in an area where prescription drug use is a significant problem. Had the killer drank a few shots of liquor, and snorted cocaine, I doubt those firm in their defense of the killer would be so adamant.
 
Zimmerman's error was in not laying there and taking his beating like he was expected to do. Trayvon Martin would then have had a gun and even more victims. who might have been white so that's okay.
 
Bottom line: this earth shattering news comes from the FAMILY doctor, and NOT from an official hospital report FROM THAT NIGHT that corroborates with the EMT report.

The video FROM THAT NIGHT DOES NOT SUPPORT THIS LATEST STATEMENT.

And the band played on.

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He was injured. Deal with it.

Are you going to dispute Trayvon's autopsy results as well? Obviously the truth doesn't fit your narrative.

Broken skin on his knuckles. The funeral director was lying.



KFTV in Orland also reported on Tuesday that Trayvon had broken skin on his knuckles when his body underwent an autopsy.

The new report contradicts a previous claim by Richard Kurtz, the funeral director who handled the teen's remains, there was no damage on his knuckles.

Zimmerman's doctor found a 'closed fracture' in Zimmerman's nose, meaning his nose was broken but the skin had not ruptured to expose the nasal bones. He also discovered two cuts on the back of his head, one was one-inch long and the other was a quarter-inch.

Read more: Trayvon Martin killing: George Zimmerman treated for broken nose and cuts on his head | Mail Online
 
Are you going to dispute Trayvon's autopsy results as well? Obviously the truth doesn't fit your narrative.

Broken skin on his knuckles. The funeral director was lying.

The funeral director is an Afro (which no doubt why the Martin family chose him). 19 out of 20 Afros are liberal degenerates, worthless at best. They make up whatever they want to believe. And, Trayvon defenders will continue to take the word of that Afro funeral director over:

Over the autopsy report.
Over the paramedics at the scene who treated Zimmerman.
Over the police at the scene.
Over the doctor who examined Zimmerman later.
Over the pictures of Zimmerman's head bleeding.
Over the witnesses who saw Trayvon hitting Zimmerman.
And, over Zimmerman's own word (which he had almost no time to fabricate).
 
Rush got addicted to PRESCRIBED pain meds. So, yeah. I agree.

Actually, statistics prove that the abuse of all drugs, including prescription drugs, is pretty stable over time with a slight downward trend. That is not what I would call an epidemic.

I didn't suggest that it was an epidemic. But I do agree that one CAN get addicted to prescribed medication.

I won't argue that people can get addicted, I just object to redefining addiction so that it includes things that aren't addiction, and using that to argue there is an epidemic.

In what could prove to be one of their most far-reaching decisions, psychiatrists and other specialists who are rewriting the manual that serves as the nation’s arbiter of mental illness have agreed to revise the definition of addiction, which could result in millions more people being diagnosed as addicts and pose huge consequences for health insurers and taxpayers.
The revision to the manual, known as the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, or D.S.M., would expand the list of recognized symptoms for drug and alcohol addiction, while also reducing the number of symptoms required for a diagnosis, according to proposed changes posted on the Web site of the American Psychiatric Association, which produces the book.
In addition, the manual for the first time would include gambling as an addiction, and it might introduce a catchall category — “behavioral addiction — not otherwise specified” — that some public health experts warn would be too readily used by doctors, despite a dearth of research, to diagnose addictions to shopping, sex, using the Internet or playing video games.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/12/u...e-addiction-diagnoses.html?_r=1&smid=go-share
 
It's more informative to me that Zimmermann had two prescriptions for two drugs that have a high potential for abuse.

Though, I am sure he really needed to treat that Adult ADHD.

He was probably working on quantum physics when he wasn't staring into a mirror saying: "you talking to me"?

What is really informative is how people jump to the conclusion that he was abusing the drugs. If we discovered that Martin was taking the drugs would you think he was abusing them, and that he was actually casing the neighborhood to support his habit?

There was quite a bit of discussion about marijuana residue in a plastic bag that resulted in the victim being suspended from school. RGS gets angry when the killer's drug use is noted. I live in an area where prescription drug use is a significant problem. Had the killer drank a few shots of liquor, and snorted cocaine, I doubt those firm in their defense of the killer would be so adamant.

None of that excuses you making a fool out of yourself, does it?
 
Rush got addicted to PRESCRIBED pain meds. So, yeah. I agree.

Actually, statistics prove that the abuse of all drugs, including prescription drugs, is pretty stable over time with a slight downward trend. That is not what I would call an epidemic.

In my state, tough sentencing has put many of the dealers in prison. Physicians have had their licenses yanked, and many of the "pain clinics" have been shut down. The "clinics" also advertised about the dangers of "stress". Still, Florida is not without pill mills. And prescription drug abuse remains the most serious substance abuse problem in the country; I would put alcohol right beside pills myself.

A 26 year old man taking amphetamines and tranquilizers, LEGALLY, remains a drug user. the unusual defense of this man, and the heated defense of his drug use, is yet another sign of a nationwide drug problem.

I take pain relievers when I need them, and sedatives. I do not drive when I take them, I do not take them unless I need them. Our government is so worried about pain relievers that you can no longer get them at the local clinics, you must go through a more expensive primary care physician some of whom will not see new clients at all. Due to that, pain relievers are at a premium and we have been robbed of our pain relievers, having to refill the prescription at our own cost because the insurance company doesn't accept "they were stolen" as an excuse. No, I didn't file a police report, they wouldn't have done anything anyway. I was surprised to find the doctor wasn't surprised that the pain killers were stolen out of our house and nothing else was missing. He said it was common and that the pharmacy that filled our prescriptions had been fined for tossing them (the paper prescriptions which are required for our painkillers, the doctors can't just call those in) without shredding them and people had picked them out of the trash to find addresses and where to get certain drugs. I do not think prescription drugs are a problem unless someone is taking them illegally, not if they are taking them AS PRESCRIBED!!!!

You'll find there are people with disabilities that ca become violent without their medications, would you advise them not to take them because YOU think they are a problem?

I would be more concerned about any illegal drugs involved rather than those that are prescribed.
 
Actually, statistics prove that the abuse of all drugs, including prescription drugs, is pretty stable over time with a slight downward trend. That is not what I would call an epidemic.

In my state, tough sentencing has put many of the dealers in prison. Physicians have had their licenses yanked, and many of the "pain clinics" have been shut down. The "clinics" also advertised about the dangers of "stress". Still, Florida is not without pill mills. And prescription drug abuse remains the most serious substance abuse problem in the country; I would put alcohol right beside pills myself.

A 26 year old man taking amphetamines and tranquilizers, LEGALLY, remains a drug user. the unusual defense of this man, and the heated defense of his drug use, is yet another sign of a nationwide drug problem.

I take pain relievers when I need them, and sedatives. I do not drive when I take them, I do not take them unless I need them. Our government is so worried about pain relievers that you can no longer get them at the local clinics, you must go through a more expensive primary care physician some of whom will not see new clients at all. Due to that, pain relievers are at a premium and we have been robbed of our pain relievers, having to refill the prescription at our own cost because the insurance company doesn't accept "they were stolen" as an excuse. No, I didn't file a police report, they wouldn't have done anything anyway. I was surprised to find the doctor wasn't surprised that the pain killers were stolen out of our house and nothing else was missing. He said it was common and that the pharmacy that filled our prescriptions had been fined for tossing them (the paper prescriptions which are required for our painkillers, the doctors can't just call those in) without shredding them and people had picked them out of the trash to find addresses and where to get certain drugs. I do not think prescription drugs are a problem unless someone is taking them illegally, not if they are taking them AS PRESCRIBED!!!!

You'll find there are people with disabilities that ca become violent without their medications, would you advise them not to take them because YOU think they are a problem?

I would be more concerned about any illegal drugs involved rather than those that are prescribed.
So you think Zimmerman would become violent without his meds?
 
Zimmerman had broken nose and injuries

That's what happens when you chase down an innocent person who did nothing wrong and threaten them with a gun. It's called "stand your ground". Oh wait. Killing a black person, according to right wingers is another definition of "stand your ground". It's like "magical creation" is the alternative to "evolution".

What is important here, is Are you willing to lie in Court, I mean testify that Zimmerman was pointing the gun at Trevon before he was attacked, or just make shit up here?
 
In my state, tough sentencing has put many of the dealers in prison. Physicians have had their licenses yanked, and many of the "pain clinics" have been shut down. The "clinics" also advertised about the dangers of "stress". Still, Florida is not without pill mills. And prescription drug abuse remains the most serious substance abuse problem in the country; I would put alcohol right beside pills myself.

A 26 year old man taking amphetamines and tranquilizers, LEGALLY, remains a drug user. the unusual defense of this man, and the heated defense of his drug use, is yet another sign of a nationwide drug problem.

I take pain relievers when I need them, and sedatives. I do not drive when I take them, I do not take them unless I need them. Our government is so worried about pain relievers that you can no longer get them at the local clinics, you must go through a more expensive primary care physician some of whom will not see new clients at all. Due to that, pain relievers are at a premium and we have been robbed of our pain relievers, having to refill the prescription at our own cost because the insurance company doesn't accept "they were stolen" as an excuse. No, I didn't file a police report, they wouldn't have done anything anyway. I was surprised to find the doctor wasn't surprised that the pain killers were stolen out of our house and nothing else was missing. He said it was common and that the pharmacy that filled our prescriptions had been fined for tossing them (the paper prescriptions which are required for our painkillers, the doctors can't just call those in) without shredding them and people had picked them out of the trash to find addresses and where to get certain drugs. I do not think prescription drugs are a problem unless someone is taking them illegally, not if they are taking them AS PRESCRIBED!!!!

You'll find there are people with disabilities that ca become violent without their medications, would you advise them not to take them because YOU think they are a problem?

I would be more concerned about any illegal drugs involved rather than those that are prescribed.
So you think Zimmerman would become violent without his meds?

Let's set up our foundation on a false premise, and just build on it, in hopes no one notices the false presumption. :)
 
In my state, tough sentencing has put many of the dealers in prison. Physicians have had their licenses yanked, and many of the "pain clinics" have been shut down. The "clinics" also advertised about the dangers of "stress". Still, Florida is not without pill mills. And prescription drug abuse remains the most serious substance abuse problem in the country; I would put alcohol right beside pills myself.

A 26 year old man taking amphetamines and tranquilizers, LEGALLY, remains a drug user. the unusual defense of this man, and the heated defense of his drug use, is yet another sign of a nationwide drug problem.

I take pain relievers when I need them, and sedatives. I do not drive when I take them, I do not take them unless I need them. Our government is so worried about pain relievers that you can no longer get them at the local clinics, you must go through a more expensive primary care physician some of whom will not see new clients at all. Due to that, pain relievers are at a premium and we have been robbed of our pain relievers, having to refill the prescription at our own cost because the insurance company doesn't accept "they were stolen" as an excuse. No, I didn't file a police report, they wouldn't have done anything anyway. I was surprised to find the doctor wasn't surprised that the pain killers were stolen out of our house and nothing else was missing. He said it was common and that the pharmacy that filled our prescriptions had been fined for tossing them (the paper prescriptions which are required for our painkillers, the doctors can't just call those in) without shredding them and people had picked them out of the trash to find addresses and where to get certain drugs. I do not think prescription drugs are a problem unless someone is taking them illegally, not if they are taking them AS PRESCRIBED!!!!

You'll find there are people with disabilities that ca become violent without their medications, would you advise them not to take them because YOU think they are a problem?

I would be more concerned about any illegal drugs involved rather than those that are prescribed.
So you think Zimmerman would become violent without his meds?

I did not say that. I said SOME people. I said medications are prescribed for a reason. To wreck someone's character because of the medications prescribed by their doctor is despicable.
 
Just heard it on the news. Will get link ASAP.

I've got this one.

ABC News Reports Medical Records Support George Zimmerman’s Account Of Broken Nose And Scalp Injuries | Mediaite

When the tragic story of the shooting death of Trayvon Martin consumed the nation over the past few months, a number of questions were raised about racism, vigilantism, and self defense laws. However, the most important question was always the first one; what exactly happened that fateful night? The shooter, George Zimmerman, has always claimed that he fired his gun in self defense, something many found hard to believe considering the young boy he killed was unarmed. However, tonight, ABC World News broke information about the injuries Zimmerman received that may shed more light on just how that night went down.


The document describes Zimmerman as having suffered two black eyes, wounds to the back of the head, as well as a broken nose but that he declined both hospitalization after the encounter as well as a follow up with an ENT doctor.

The doctor who wrote the document also writes that Zimmerman suffers from stress and “nausea” when thinking about the night and was strongly advised to see a psychologist.

It also states that, prior to the shooting, Zimmerman had been prescribed the drugs Adderall and Temazepam, medication that ABC points out “can cause side effects such as agitation and mood swings, but in fewer than 10 percent of patients.”


ABC News Reports Medical Records Support George Zimmerman’s Account Of Broken Nose And Scalp Injuries | Mediaite

Speed AND downers; this guy was DRUGGED. I think this could help the State.

Actually, it won't. In order to prove the murder charge the state has to prove that this was intentional, drugs make that harder.

You also have to prove he was on them at the time of the altercation.

Just because he was prescribed them doesn't means he had taken them at the time of the shooting.
 

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