Georgia judge, Stacey Abrams' sister, rules against voter purge before Senate runoffs

[progressive hunter]

A voter purge shortly before a run off election of national importance? Can voter suppression be any more blatant? Do it after.

but they moved???
so why keep them on when they dont live there anymore??

 

[CowboyTed]

Remember the saying "unintended consequences". This, of the Trump loss in particular Battleground States due to Bidens overwhelming popularity.

Per the article:

Judge Leslie Abrams Gardner, who was appointed by former President Barack Obama, said she found no reason to recuse herself from the case.

Georgia judge, Stacey Abrams' sister, rules against voter purge before Senate runoffs

Two counties voted to remove a tranche of voters' names from their rosters after separate complaints alleged that publicly available voter registration data matched unverified change-of-address records by the U.S. Postal Service.

www.foxnews.com

A Georgia judge who is the sister of Democratic politician Stacey Abrams refused to recuse herself from a crucial election case, instead ruling against the purge of 4,000 voters from state rolls before Senate runoffs.



U.S. District Judge Leslie Abrams Gardner's ruling comes after two counties voted to remove a tranche of voters' names from their rosters after two separate complaints alleged that publicly available voter registration data matched unverified change-of-address records by the U.S. Postal Service.

The complaints in Muscogee and Ben Hill counties, however, failed to prove that the voters had actually given up Georgia residences, according to reports by Politico.

Marc Elias, a Democratic Party attorney whose group Democracy Forward filed the lawsuit challenging the purges, called Gardner's decision a "blow to GOP voter suppression."

Why should she recuse herself? Abrams isn’t an elected official.

Her sister ran for Governor there, for the Dem Party. She was appointed by Obama, who is still very active in politics.

Are we to pretend her and her sister don't speak anymore?

So you are essentially saying because of the she should recuse herself from ruling on anything political?

No, not seeing a conflict here. Using your logic every Trump judge should be recused.

Of course being an uneducated partisan ass you see nothing wrong. Simple ethics dictates recusal in a case involving a family member. Any decision could easily be appealed and overturned by a higher court. It’s called common sense and doing the right thing. Something you and your leftist friends can’t comprehend.

Stacey Abrams is not involved in the case. She is not a witness and just a member of a party which has an interest in the case.

If your standard was consistent, you can have a judge who has a family member in either party...

Truth is the Judge Abrams ruled on precedence... Again there is very little proven voter fraud and a lot of proven voter suppression...

Why are the GOP afraid of the voting public?

 

[Coyote]

A voter purge shortly before a run off election of national importance? Can voter suppression be any more blatant? Do it after.

Conversely, expanding voting methods just before an election without testing that clearly benefits 1 side; could fraud be any more obvious?

One topic at a time. What are your thoughts on what is happening here?

if they should not be there, remove them.

....
The counties seemed to have improperly relied on unverified change-of-address data to invalidate registrations, the judge, Leslie Abrams Gardner, said in her order filed late on Monday in the U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Georgia.
.....
"seeme to have"? how do we not know? they did or they did not.

Is it appropriate to do a voter roll purge a week before an election?

is it appropriate to change voting rules just before an election?

normally no. I would say not. but if one side can do whatever they feel so can the other.

Two different things. Let’s hash out the one before going into the what about isms. Purging voter rolls, with insufficient time for voters to remedy it, is no less than an attempt to disenfranchise. Typically, this is done and should be done, either on an off year or well ahead of any election. Would you agree or disagree?

No they are not.

one side got to change all the rules just before an election. you are fine with that.

now the Rs want to do it and you are NOT fine with changing things around.

you can't keep doing thungs you dont allow the other side to do. sooner or later we jenga and all hell breaks loose.

we are there.

I am not going down that rabbit hole with you. One thing at a time. Is it ok to purge voter rolls a week before a very high stakes election?

 

[BlueGin]

Remember the saying "unintended consequences". This, of the Trump loss in particular Battleground States due to Bidens overwhelming popularity.

Per the article:

Judge Leslie Abrams Gardner, who was appointed by former President Barack Obama, said she found no reason to recuse herself from the case.

Georgia judge, Stacey Abrams' sister, rules against voter purge before Senate runoffs

Two counties voted to remove a tranche of voters' names from their rosters after separate complaints alleged that publicly available voter registration data matched unverified change-of-address records by the U.S. Postal Service.

www.foxnews.com

A Georgia judge who is the sister of Democratic politician Stacey Abrams refused to recuse herself from a crucial election case, instead ruling against the purge of 4,000 voters from state rolls before Senate runoffs.



U.S. District Judge Leslie Abrams Gardner's ruling comes after two counties voted to remove a tranche of voters' names from their rosters after two separate complaints alleged that publicly available voter registration data matched unverified change-of-address records by the U.S. Postal Service.

The complaints in Muscogee and Ben Hill counties, however, failed to prove that the voters had actually given up Georgia residences, according to reports by Politico.

Marc Elias, a Democratic Party attorney whose group Democracy Forward filed the lawsuit challenging the purges, called Gardner's decision a "blow to GOP voter suppression."

A corrupt democrat asshole? I’m soooo shocked.

 

[iceberg]

A voter purge shortly before a run off election of national importance? Can voter suppression be any more blatant? Do it after.

Conversely, expanding voting methods just before an election without testing that clearly benefits 1 side; could fraud be any more obvious?

One topic at a time. What are your thoughts on what is happening here?

if they should not be there, remove them.

....
The counties seemed to have improperly relied on unverified change-of-address data to invalidate registrations, the judge, Leslie Abrams Gardner, said in her order filed late on Monday in the U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Georgia.
.....
"seeme to have"? how do we not know? they did or they did not.

Is it appropriate to do a voter roll purge a week before an election?

is it appropriate to change voting rules just before an election?

normally no. I would say not. but if one side can do whatever they feel so can the other.

Two different things. Let’s hash out the one before going into the what about isms. Purging voter rolls, with insufficient time for voters to remedy it, is no less than an attempt to disenfranchise. Typically, this is done and should be done, either on an off year or well ahead of any election. Would you agree or disagree?

No they are not.

one side got to change all the rules just before an election. you are fine with that.

now the Rs want to do it and you are NOT fine with changing things around.

you can't keep doing thungs you dont allow the other side to do. sooner or later we jenga and all hell breaks loose.

we are there.

I am not going down that rabbit hole with you. One thing at a time. Is it ok to purge voter rolls a week before a very high stakes election?

You can't pick and choose which rules are OK to change at a moments notice. I won't Micro slice shit up because you can't see the whole picture.

the left allowed wholesale rule changes. it opened the box for more. stop acting surprised others are doing their version of it.

if you allow it PERIOD all are going to do it.

the issue isn't CAN THIS RULE BE CHANGED we are beyond that.

the issue is people change rules at will these days. you can't argue about a single issue or you dont see the entire problem.

sets and subsets.

 

[Coyote]

A voter purge shortly before a run off election of national importance? Can voter suppression be any more blatant? Do it after.

but they moved???
so why keep them on when they dont live there anymore??

Strawman. No one is arguing voter rolls shouldn’t be kept up to date Or purged. The issue is the timing.

You don’t know for sure if they moved or not, there is usually a process that allows for challenges and reinstatement in plenty of time for an election.

 

[progressive hunter]

A voter purge shortly before a run off election of national importance? Can voter suppression be any more blatant? Do it after.

but they moved???
so why keep them on when they dont live there anymore??

Strawman. No one is arguing voter rolls shouldn’t be kept up to date Or purged. The issue is the timing.

You don’t know for sure if they moved or not, there is usually a process that allows for challenges and reinstatement in plenty of time for an election.

theres never a better time than right before an election,, you do want to insure theres no possibility of wrong doing dont you???

its not like its going to take a lot of time or money,, all they have to do is hit delete,,, the list is already made,,

 

[Coyote]

A voter purge shortly before a run off election of national importance? Can voter suppression be any more blatant? Do it after.

Conversely, expanding voting methods just before an election without testing that clearly benefits 1 side; could fraud be any more obvious?

One topic at a time. What are your thoughts on what is happening here?

if they should not be there, remove them.

....
The counties seemed to have improperly relied on unverified change-of-address data to invalidate registrations, the judge, Leslie Abrams Gardner, said in her order filed late on Monday in the U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Georgia.
.....
"seeme to have"? how do we not know? they did or they did not.

Is it appropriate to do a voter roll purge a week before an election?

is it appropriate to change voting rules just before an election?

normally no. I would say not. but if one side can do whatever they feel so can the other.

Two different things. Let’s hash out the one before going into the what about isms. Purging voter rolls, with insufficient time for voters to remedy it, is no less than an attempt to disenfranchise. Typically, this is done and should be done, either on an off year or well ahead of any election. Would you agree or disagree?

No they are not.

one side got to change all the rules just before an election. you are fine with that.

now the Rs want to do it and you are NOT fine with changing things around.

you can't keep doing thungs you dont allow the other side to do. sooner or later we jenga and all hell breaks loose.

we are there.

I am not going down that rabbit hole with you. One thing at a time. Is it ok to purge voter rolls a week before a very high stakes election?

You can't pick and choose which rules are OK to change at a moments notice. I won't Micro slice shit up because you can't see the whole picture.

the left allowed wholesale rule changes. it opened the box for more. stop acting surprised others are doing their version of it.

if you allow it PERIOD all are going to do it.

I am not picking and choosing, you are throwing in broad general claims, I’m trying to stick to the claim made in the op of this thread. Can you?

Do you think it is ok to purge voter rolls a week before an election?

 

[iceberg]

A voter purge shortly before a run off election of national importance? Can voter suppression be any more blatant? Do it after.

Conversely, expanding voting methods just before an election without testing that clearly benefits 1 side; could fraud be any more obvious?

One topic at a time. What are your thoughts on what is happening here?

if they should not be there, remove them.

....
The counties seemed to have improperly relied on unverified change-of-address data to invalidate registrations, the judge, Leslie Abrams Gardner, said in her order filed late on Monday in the U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Georgia.
.....
"seeme to have"? how do we not know? they did or they did not.

Is it appropriate to do a voter roll purge a week before an election?

is it appropriate to change voting rules just before an election?

normally no. I would say not. but if one side can do whatever they feel so can the other.

Two different things. Let’s hash out the one before going into the what about isms. Purging voter rolls, with insufficient time for voters to remedy it, is no less than an attempt to disenfranchise. Typically, this is done and should be done, either on an off year or well ahead of any election. Would you agree or disagree?

No they are not.

one side got to change all the rules just before an election. you are fine with that.

now the Rs want to do it and you are NOT fine with changing things around.

you can't keep doing thungs you dont allow the other side to do. sooner or later we jenga and all hell breaks loose.

we are there.

I am not going down that rabbit hole with you. One thing at a time. Is it ok to purge voter rolls a week before a very high stakes election?

You can't pick and choose which rules are OK to change at a moments notice. I won't Micro slice shit up because you can't see the whole picture.

the left allowed wholesale rule changes. it opened the box for more. stop acting surprised others are doing their version of it.

if you allow it PERIOD all are going to do it.

I am not picking and choosing, you are throwing in broad general claims, I’m trying to stick to the claim made in the op of this thread. Can you?

Do you think it is ok to purge voter rolls a week before an election?

I have said many times NO.

HOWEVER it's also not right to change voting rules. the left did it and made up rules to suit purpose.

stop acting so surprised others will do it too. you allow your side to make shit up, you allow making shit up to be done. PERIOD.

 

[Coyote]

A voter purge shortly before a run off election of national importance? Can voter suppression be any more blatant? Do it after.

but they moved???
so why keep them on when they dont live there anymore??

Strawman. No one is arguing voter rolls shouldn’t be kept up to date Or purged. The issue is the timing.

You don’t know for sure if they moved or not, there is usually a process that allows for challenges and reinstatement in plenty of time for an election.

theres never a better time than right before an election,, you do want to insure theres no possibility of wrong doing dont you???

its not like its going to take a lot of time or money,, all they have to do is hit delete,,, the list is already made,,

Purges often include a number of legitimate voters, who will, in this case lack the time to challenge it. That is why it is usually done well before an election. To use your words: you do
want to insure theres no possibility of wrong doing dont you???

 

[progressive hunter]

A voter purge shortly before a run off election of national importance? Can voter suppression be any more blatant? Do it after.

but they moved???
so why keep them on when they dont live there anymore??

Strawman. No one is arguing voter rolls shouldn’t be kept up to date Or purged. The issue is the timing.

You don’t know for sure if they moved or not, there is usually a process that allows for challenges and reinstatement in plenty of time for an election.

theres never a better time than right before an election,, you do want to insure theres no possibility of wrong doing dont you???

its not like its going to take a lot of time or money,, all they have to do is hit delete,,, the list is already made,,

Purges often include a number of legitimate voters, who will, in this case lack the time to challenge it. That is why it is usually done well before an election. To use your words: you do
want to insure theres no possibility of wrong doing dont you???

the list is already made and confirmed,,

not doing it leave a wide open gate for duplicate voting,,, and in lite of that already being a problem its a must do,,

 

[Coyote]

A voter purge shortly before a run off election of national importance? Can voter suppression be any more blatant? Do it after.

Conversely, expanding voting methods just before an election without testing that clearly benefits 1 side; could fraud be any more obvious?

One topic at a time. What are your thoughts on what is happening here?

if they should not be there, remove them.

....
The counties seemed to have improperly relied on unverified change-of-address data to invalidate registrations, the judge, Leslie Abrams Gardner, said in her order filed late on Monday in the U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Georgia.
.....
"seeme to have"? how do we not know? they did or they did not.

Is it appropriate to do a voter roll purge a week before an election?

is it appropriate to change voting rules just before an election?

normally no. I would say not. but if one side can do whatever they feel so can the other.

Two different things. Let’s hash out the one before going into the what about isms. Purging voter rolls, with insufficient time for voters to remedy it, is no less than an attempt to disenfranchise. Typically, this is done and should be done, either on an off year or well ahead of any election. Would you agree or disagree?

No they are not.

one side got to change all the rules just before an election. you are fine with that.

now the Rs want to do it and you are NOT fine with changing things around.

you can't keep doing thungs you dont allow the other side to do. sooner or later we jenga and all hell breaks loose.

we are there.

I am not going down that rabbit hole with you. One thing at a time. Is it ok to purge voter rolls a week before a very high stakes election?

You can't pick and choose which rules are OK to change at a moments notice. I won't Micro slice shit up because you can't see the whole picture.

the left allowed wholesale rule changes. it opened the box for more. stop acting surprised others are doing their version of it.

if you allow it PERIOD all are going to do it.

I am not picking and choosing, you are throwing in broad general claims, I’m trying to stick to the claim made in the op of this thread. Can you?

Do you think it is ok to purge voter rolls a week before an election?

I have said many times NO.

HOWEVER it's also not right to change voting rules. the left did it and made up rules to suit purpose.

stop acting so surprised others will do it too. you allow your side to make shit up, you allow making shit up to be done. PERIOD.

Good. I am glad you agree it is wrong, though that was substantially weakened by your justification following.

The argument SHOULD be, but somehow never is, is this: is it ever ok to disEnfranchise voters, regardless of who they vote for?

 

[Coyote]

A voter purge shortly before a run off election of national importance? Can voter suppression be any more blatant? Do it after.

but they moved???
so why keep them on when they dont live there anymore??

Strawman. No one is arguing voter rolls shouldn’t be kept up to date Or purged. The issue is the timing.

You don’t know for sure if they moved or not, there is usually a process that allows for challenges and reinstatement in plenty of time for an election.

theres never a better time than right before an election,, you do want to insure theres no possibility of wrong doing dont you???

its not like its going to take a lot of time or money,, all they have to do is hit delete,,, the list is already made,,

Purges often include a number of legitimate voters, who will, in this case lack the time to challenge it. That is why it is usually done well before an election. To use your words: you do
want to insure theres no possibility of wrong doing dont you???

the list is already made and confirmed,,

not doing it leave a wide open gate for duplicate voting,,, and in lite of that already being a problem its a must do,,

Ahhh...the duplicate voting. How many duplicate votes occurred in the November Georgia election that necessitates this unusually timed purge?

 

[iceberg]

A voter purge shortly before a run off election of national importance? Can voter suppression be any more blatant? Do it after.

Conversely, expanding voting methods just before an election without testing that clearly benefits 1 side; could fraud be any more obvious?

One topic at a time. What are your thoughts on what is happening here?

if they should not be there, remove them.

....
The counties seemed to have improperly relied on unverified change-of-address data to invalidate registrations, the judge, Leslie Abrams Gardner, said in her order filed late on Monday in the U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Georgia.
.....
"seeme to have"? how do we not know? they did or they did not.

Is it appropriate to do a voter roll purge a week before an election?

is it appropriate to change voting rules just before an election?

normally no. I would say not. but if one side can do whatever they feel so can the other.

Two different things. Let’s hash out the one before going into the what about isms. Purging voter rolls, with insufficient time for voters to remedy it, is no less than an attempt to disenfranchise. Typically, this is done and should be done, either on an off year or well ahead of any election. Would you agree or disagree?

No they are not.

one side got to change all the rules just before an election. you are fine with that.

now the Rs want to do it and you are NOT fine with changing things around.

you can't keep doing thungs you dont allow the other side to do. sooner or later we jenga and all hell breaks loose.

we are there.

I am not going down that rabbit hole with you. One thing at a time. Is it ok to purge voter rolls a week before a very high stakes election?

You can't pick and choose which rules are OK to change at a moments notice. I won't Micro slice shit up because you can't see the whole picture.

the left allowed wholesale rule changes. it opened the box for more. stop acting surprised others are doing their version of it.

if you allow it PERIOD all are going to do it.

I am not picking and choosing, you are throwing in broad general claims, I’m trying to stick to the claim made in the op of this thread. Can you?

Do you think it is ok to purge voter rolls a week before an election?

I have said many times NO.

HOWEVER it's also not right to change voting rules. the left did it and made up rules to suit purpose.

stop acting so surprised others will do it too. you allow your side to make shit up, you allow making shit up to be done. PERIOD.

Good. I am glad you agree it is wrong, though that was substantially weakened by your justification following.

The argument SHOULD be, but somehow never is, is this: is it ever ok to disEnfranchise voters, regardless of who they vote for?

because I am seeing the big picture. you are not from my point of view.

if you allow your side to do something traditionally wrong FOR WHATEVER REASON, the other side by nature will follow suit.

the fact you can't understand what I am trying to say is pretty frustrating.

your lack of understanding "weakens" your critique of my views.

you should be saying last minute changes are wrong. not justifying yours and demonizing others.

it's fun telling others what they should be saying. let's keep at it!

 

[progressive hunter]

A voter purge shortly before a run off election of national importance? Can voter suppression be any more blatant? Do it after.

but they moved???
so why keep them on when they dont live there anymore??

Strawman. No one is arguing voter rolls shouldn’t be kept up to date Or purged. The issue is the timing.

You don’t know for sure if they moved or not, there is usually a process that allows for challenges and reinstatement in plenty of time for an election.

theres never a better time than right before an election,, you do want to insure theres no possibility of wrong doing dont you???

its not like its going to take a lot of time or money,, all they have to do is hit delete,,, the list is already made,,

Purges often include a number of legitimate voters, who will, in this case lack the time to challenge it. That is why it is usually done well before an election. To use your words: you do
want to insure theres no possibility of wrong doing dont you???

the list is already made and confirmed,,

not doing it leave a wide open gate for duplicate voting,,, and in lite of that already being a problem its a must do,,

Ahhh...the duplicate voting. How many duplicate votes occurred in the November Georgia election that necessitates this unusually timed purge?

your dodging,, the point is the list is already made and confirmed so theres no reason not to,,,

 

[Synthaholic]

Remember the saying "unintended consequences". This, of the Trump loss in particular Battleground States due to Bidens overwhelming popularity.

Per the article:

Judge Leslie Abrams Gardner, who was appointed by former President Barack Obama, said she found no reason to recuse herself from the case.

Georgia judge, Stacey Abrams' sister, rules against voter purge before Senate runoffs

Two counties voted to remove a tranche of voters' names from their rosters after separate complaints alleged that publicly available voter registration data matched unverified change-of-address records by the U.S. Postal Service.

www.foxnews.com

A Georgia judge who is the sister of Democratic politician Stacey Abrams refused to recuse herself from a crucial election case, instead ruling against the purge of 4,000 voters from state rolls before Senate runoffs.



U.S. District Judge Leslie Abrams Gardner's ruling comes after two counties voted to remove a tranche of voters' names from their rosters after two separate complaints alleged that publicly available voter registration data matched unverified change-of-address records by the U.S. Postal Service.

The complaints in Muscogee and Ben Hill counties, however, failed to prove that the voters had actually given up Georgia residences, according to reports by Politico.

Marc Elias, a Democratic Party attorney whose group Democracy Forward filed the lawsuit challenging the purges, called Gardner's decision a "blow to GOP voter suppression."

Why should she recuse herself? Abrams isn’t an elected official.

Her sister ran for Governor there, for the Dem Party. She was appointed by Obama, who is still very active in politics.

Are we to pretend her and her sister don't speak anymore?

Who gives a shit? trump was counting on "his judges". What did he mean by that?

 

[Synthaholic]

Remember the saying "unintended consequences". This, of the Trump loss in particular Battleground States due to Bidens overwhelming popularity.

Per the article:

Judge Leslie Abrams Gardner, who was appointed by former President Barack Obama, said she found no reason to recuse herself from the case.

Georgia judge, Stacey Abrams' sister, rules against voter purge before Senate runoffs

Two counties voted to remove a tranche of voters' names from their rosters after separate complaints alleged that publicly available voter registration data matched unverified change-of-address records by the U.S. Postal Service.

www.foxnews.com

A Georgia judge who is the sister of Democratic politician Stacey Abrams refused to recuse herself from a crucial election case, instead ruling against the purge of 4,000 voters from state rolls before Senate runoffs.



U.S. District Judge Leslie Abrams Gardner's ruling comes after two counties voted to remove a tranche of voters' names from their rosters after two separate complaints alleged that publicly available voter registration data matched unverified change-of-address records by the U.S. Postal Service.

The complaints in Muscogee and Ben Hill counties, however, failed to prove that the voters had actually given up Georgia residences, according to reports by Politico.

Marc Elias, a Democratic Party attorney whose group Democracy Forward filed the lawsuit challenging the purges, called Gardner's decision a "blow to GOP voter suppression."

Why should she recuse herself? Abrams isn’t an elected official.

Her sister ran for Governor there, for the Dem Party. She was appointed by Obama, who is still very active in politics.

Are we to pretend her and her sister don't speak anymore?

Plus Stacy Abrams was credited with "getting out the Dem vote" during the general election, and is doing the same thing for this election.

She sure is!

 

[Synthaholic]

One sister helps the other. Where is the Supreme Court? Oh, right...in the bag for the left and
Corrupt Joe Biden.

Yeah, what's the issue? What's your problem with it? Spell it out. Use your words. Show us how smart you are.

 

[Synthaholic]

Removing people from the voter rolls without the time for the voter to object and prove they are state citizens, is planned voter disenfranchisement and suppression.

This is how Kemp stole the election from Abrams.

 

[Dragonlady]

Remember the saying "unintended consequences". This, of the Trump loss in particular Battleground States due to Bidens overwhelming popularity.

Per the article:

Judge Leslie Abrams Gardner, who was appointed by former President Barack Obama, said she found no reason to recuse herself from the case.

Georgia judge, Stacey Abrams' sister, rules against voter purge before Senate runoffs

Two counties voted to remove a tranche of voters' names from their rosters after separate complaints alleged that publicly available voter registration data matched unverified change-of-address records by the U.S. Postal Service.

www.foxnews.com

A Georgia judge who is the sister of Democratic politician Stacey Abrams refused to recuse herself from a crucial election case, instead ruling against the purge of 4,000 voters from state rolls before Senate runoffs.



U.S. District Judge Leslie Abrams Gardner's ruling comes after two counties voted to remove a tranche of voters' names from their rosters after two separate complaints alleged that publicly available voter registration data matched unverified change-of-address records by the U.S. Postal Service.

The complaints in Muscogee and Ben Hill counties, however, failed to prove that the voters had actually given up Georgia residences, according to reports by Politico.

Marc Elias, a Democratic Party attorney whose group Democracy Forward filed the lawsuit challenging the purges, called Gardner's decision a "blow to GOP voter suppression."

Why would Georgia try to remove voters from the rolls after the federal election and before the run-offs? There isn't adequate time for a proper notification to challenge such voter suppression.

Sounds like Georgia is once against trying the suppress the vote.

Nice try at trying to blame the judge for this bullshit.