Get ready. Republicans about to cave

[DigitalDrifter]

Looks like the GOP is about to tuck it's tail and give in to everything.


Government shutdown: The Republicans are preparing to cave to the Democrats

The details of the latest Republican proposal to end the government shutdown are still sketchy but if all of the reports are true it looks as if they are about to cave to the Democrats and give them virtually everything they wanted in the first place.

The debt ceiling will be raised, the government will be reopened, Obamacare will be funded,the individual mandate will not be delayed, and worst of all, many of the sequester cuts will be reversed. The Republican proposal is a temporary proposal for it lifts the debt ceiling for six weeks and only funds the government through the middle of December, at that point we have to live through this theater yet again. The temporary aspect of this proposal is a blatantly obvious attempt at saving face, but it is not the only face saving measure being proposed.

In addition to this the Republicans are trying to save face by proposing a repeal of the unpopular medical device tax and the promise of future negotiations on spending cuts. So let me see if I have this correct; the Republicans are going to allow the sequester spending cuts to be reversed and then after this spending is raised they are going to go back to the table to talk about spending cuts. Does that make any sense even if the future spending cut negotiations ever come to pass, which I highly doubt.

Government shutdown: The Republicans are preparing to cave to the Democrats | Opinion - Conservative

 

[Katzndogz]

They are going to come to some kind of agreement. It would be better if they came to blows.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

They are going to come to some kind of agreement. It would be better if they came to blows.

The "agreement" being Republicans getting their asses handed to them.

Fucking fools.

 

[LoneLaugher]

There is no negotiating on opening government or paying bills. Those are not chips held by the GOP.

After the government is opened and this bullshit debt limit raised, talks can be held about all the dopey demands that the nutters have.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The details of the latest Republican proposal to end the government shutdown are still sketchy but if all of the reports are true it looks as if they are about to cave to the Democrats and give them virtually everything they wanted in the first place.

Which would be everything republicans wanted in the first place, such as allowing the sequester cuts to be permanent.

 

[Zoom-boing]

The only thing that surprises me is that Boehner held out past the 8 days I gave him.

I said this before ... the big gov Rs want the aca as much as the gov loving Ds, they're just pissed the idea didn't come from them.

This was all a dog and pony show. I refuse to attend another.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

The only thing that surprises me is that Boehner held out past the 8 days I gave him.

I said this before ... the big gov Rs want the aca as much as the gov loving Ds, they're just pissed the idea didn't come from them.

This was all a dog and pony show. I refuse to attend another.

I'm done with them too.

 

[Hart63]

"They had three years to get this ready. If they weren't fully ready, they should accept the advice Republicans are giving them, delay it for a year, get it ready and make sure it works."

 

[TheOldSchool]

Maybe ted should give another 20 hour speech. That'll teach em

 

[JoeB131]

The only thing that surprises me is that Boehner held out past the 8 days I gave him.

I said this before ... the big gov Rs want the aca as much as the gov loving Ds, they're just pissed the idea didn't come from them.

This was all a dog and pony show. I refuse to attend another.

The idea DID come from them. The right had no problem with ACA when it was called RomneyCare.

It was just when the Black Guy Did It, they had a problem.

But the real problem is the GOP's inability to stand up to a phony astroturfing monster they created called the Tea Party.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

The only thing that surprises me is that Boehner held out past the 8 days I gave him.

I said this before ... the big gov Rs want the aca as much as the gov loving Ds, they're just pissed the idea didn't come from them.

This was all a dog and pony show. I refuse to attend another.

The idea DID come from them. The right had no problem with ACA when it was called RomneyCare.

It was just when the Black Guy Did It, they had a problem.

But the real problem is the GOP's inability to stand up to a phony astroturfing monster they created called the Tea Party.

Not that I want to re-argue this point again, but you are so full of shit about the right not having a problem with government healthcare before Obama. If I hear this claim one more time, I will explode. Are you not old enough to remember the Clinton administrations attempt at Hillarycare ?

As far as Romneycare, it's in a state where conservatism doesn't exist. The population both Dims and members of what they call the GOP in Mass. was ripe for bending over and grabbing their ankles for more bloated government.

Yeah you'll find a few high-profile Republican idiots like Romney and Gingrich that believe the government should be in control of healthcare, but you wont find very many fiscal conservatives that believe this.

Take your racial claim and shove it.

 

[PainefulTruth]

The only thing that surprises me is that Boehner held out past the 8 days I gave him.

This just in: Boenher says debt talks at impasse.

The right had no problem with ACA when it was called RomneyCare.

That is incorrect. There was sackcloth and ashes when it was learned that Romney's aides had helped the White House design Obamacare. And lest we forget, that ACA was a program from the socialist Mecca of Massachusetts. On a nationwide scale, conservatives were very unhappy with it. We want reform, just not unaffordable, economy crushing "affordable healthcare" being run by the government. The Spite House recently took out the word "free" when describing Obamacare.

Lest we forget the eminently appropriate quote from P.J. O'Rourke: "If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free."

 

[Hoffstra]

I accept some cuts & cost-saving ideas in order to refund the govt.

But there should be NO concessions on the debt ceiling. It shouldn't even be a damn discussion!!!

The GOP approved the damn spending, now they need to fund that damn spending that they approved!!

 

[JakeStarkey]

If teaps get anything with ACA and debt ceiling, then they will come back on Roe v Wade, on DOMA and DADT, and host of other things.

Not possible, ever.

 

[Hoffstra]

If teaps get anything with ACA and debt ceiling, then they will come back on Roe v Wade, on DOMA and DADT, and host of other things.

Not possible, ever.

next they will want to kill the EPA, FEMA, Dept. of Commerce, Dept. of Education, privatize SS and Medicare, etc etc.

 

[tinydancer]

Senator Susan Collins has presented a "gee Mr. President we're here on our knees to you, can we have a pillow and a bib for sucking" bill to Obama.

I'm still not seeing where the House has caved. I keep seeing all these "Boehner has caved" headlines and thread titles but I'm not watching it in real life.

 

[percysunshine]

Hate to rain on your cave parade but;

Democrats reject Susan Collins proposal - Manu Raju and Burgess Everett - POLITICO.com


It's back to square one again...

 

[Wry Catcher]

The only thing that surprises me is that Boehner held out past the 8 days I gave him.

I said this before ... the big gov Rs want the aca as much as the gov loving Ds, they're just pissed the idea didn't come from them.

This was all a dog and pony show. I refuse to attend another.

The idea DID come from them. The right had no problem with ACA when it was called RomneyCare.

It was just when the Black Guy Did It, they had a problem.

But the real problem is the GOP's inability to stand up to a phony astroturfing monster they created called the Tea Party.

Not that I want to re-argue this point again, but you are so full of shit about the right not having a problem with government healthcare before Obama. If I hear this claim one more time, I will explode. Are you not old enough to remember the Clinton administrations attempt at Hillarycare ?

As far as Romneycare, it's in a state where conservatism doesn't exist. The population both Dims and members of what they call the GOP in Mass. was ripe for bending over and grabbing their ankles for more bloated government.

Yeah you'll find a few high-profile Republican idiots like Romney and Gingrich that believe the government should be in control of healthcare, but you wont find very many fiscal conservatives that believe this.

Take your racial claim and shove it.

Promise? The right did not have a problem with government healthcare before Obama.

 

[Vandalshandle]

This is the end of the tea party as a driving force in the republican party. They will be shown the door at the next election. The republicans are going to have to find new heros and leaders, and it won't be Ted Cruz. Look for the emergence of a new Cheney, but one with a certain amount of charisma. The next republican presidential candidate will come from the mainstream business world. Lord help us if they go with another Bush, though...

 

[percysunshine]

The idea DID come from them. The right had no problem with ACA when it was called RomneyCare.

It was just when the Black Guy Did It, they had a problem.

But the real problem is the GOP's inability to stand up to a phony astroturfing monster they created called the Tea Party.

Not that I want to re-argue this point again, but you are so full of shit about the right not having a problem with government healthcare before Obama. If I hear this claim one more time, I will explode. Are you not old enough to remember the Clinton administrations attempt at Hillarycare ?

As far as Romneycare, it's in a state where conservatism doesn't exist. The population both Dims and members of what they call the GOP in Mass. was ripe for bending over and grabbing their ankles for more bloated government.

Yeah you'll find a few high-profile Republican idiots like Romney and Gingrich that believe the government should be in control of healthcare, but you wont find very many fiscal conservatives that believe this.

Take your racial claim and shove it.

Promise? The right did not have a problem with government healthcare before Obama.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_health_care_plan_of_1993

Otherwise known as 'Hillarycare'.