Get ready. Republicans about to cave

[JoeB131]

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I wondered when the Heritage Foundation article would come up ! Lol ! Yeah, that proves that conservatives always wanted the government to take over the healthcare system ! Too funny !

Again, you can find a few examples where some Republicans were for a government system, just as you can find some Dims against abortion. Doesn't mean shit.

And by the way, typical lib that would refer to someone as being "evil" simply because they are a Mormon.

Mormons think that a Child-molesting con-artist was talking to God. Yeah, they're evil as shit.

But to the point, the thing is, neither party has ever argued, "Meh, fuck those poor people, let them die!"

The Libertarian Loons might have. But for most of the GOP's party's existence, they've kept these loons at the Kiddy Table while the Grownups were talking.

Point was, in 1993, Democrats proposed a government program to cover the uninsured and Republicans proposed subsidies to private insurance to take people they'd otherwise never touch. Then the discussion got tabled for a while and when we got back to it, Democrats said, "Yeah, we can live with subsidies".

In short, Republicans were all for ObamaCare until the Black Guy Did It.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

This is the end of the tea party as a driving force in the republican party. They will be shown the door at the next election. The republicans are going to have to find new heros and leaders, and it won't be Ted Cruz. Look for the emergence of a new Cheney, but one with a certain amount of charisma. The next republican presidential candidate will come from the mainstream business world. Lord help us if they go with another Bush, though...

I hope you're right, it would be great to see a non radicalized Republican Party and a campaign in 2016 on ideas and not ideology and demagoguery. We might have had one in 2012, if Jon Huntsman had been selected as the GOP Standard Bearer. IMO, and that of many others, he was by leaps and bounds the best qualified Republican who tossed his hate in the ring last year.

Jon Huntsman, Jr. - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

It would indeed, but highly unlikely.

The greatest challenge for a qualified candidate such as Huntsman wouldn’t come from democrats in the Fall but form the Southern GOP primaries during the Winter and Spring.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Looks like the GOP is about to tuck it's tail and give in to everything.


Government shutdown: The Republicans are preparing to cave to the Democrats

The details of the latest Republican proposal to end the government shutdown are still sketchy but if all of the reports are true it looks as if they are about to cave to the Democrats and give them virtually everything they wanted in the first place.

The debt ceiling will be raised, the government will be reopened, Obamacare will be funded,the individual mandate will not be delayed, and worst of all, many of the sequester cuts will be reversed. The Republican proposal is a temporary proposal for it lifts the debt ceiling for six weeks and only funds the government through the middle of December, at that point we have to live through this theater yet again. The temporary aspect of this proposal is a blatantly obvious attempt at saving face, but it is not the only face saving measure being proposed.

In addition to this the Republicans are trying to save face by proposing a repeal of the unpopular medical device tax and the promise of future negotiations on spending cuts. So let me see if I have this correct; the Republicans are going to allow the sequester spending cuts to be reversed and then after this spending is raised they are going to go back to the table to talk about spending cuts. Does that make any sense even if the future spending cut negotiations ever come to pass, which I highly doubt.

Government shutdown: The Republicans are preparing to cave to the Democrats | Opinion - Conservative

Apparently the Democrats won't let them cave. Susan Collins knows quite well. Yet another proposal rejected by the Democrats. Oh yeah, and the Democratically held Senate voted down a clean CR!

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-12/senate-rejects-clean-debt-extension-through-2014

 

[jon_berzerk]

The only thing that surprises me is that Boehner held out past the 8 days I gave him.

This just in: Boenher says debt talks at impasse.

The right had no problem with ACA when it was called RomneyCare.

That is incorrect. There was sackcloth and ashes when it was learned that Romney's aides had helped the White House design Obamacare. And lest we forget, that ACA was a program from the socialist Mecca of Massachusetts. On a nationwide scale, conservatives were very unhappy with it. We want reform, just not unaffordable, economy crushing "affordable healthcare" being run by the government. The Spite House recently took out the word "free" when describing Obamacare.

Lest we forget the eminently appropriate quote from P.J. O'Rourke: "If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free."

romneycare as well as many of romneys other leftist views simply kept many on the right home

 

[JoeB131]

Why should they.

Clean CR and clean debt ceiling increase. Period.

No more hostage taking.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

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I wondered when the Heritage Foundation article would come up ! Lol ! Yeah, that proves that conservatives always wanted the government to take over the healthcare system ! Too funny !

Again, you can find a few examples where some Republicans were for a government system, just as you can find some Dims against abortion. Doesn't mean shit.

And by the way, typical lib that would refer to someone as being "evil" simply because they are a Mormon.

Mormons think that a Child-molesting con-artist was talking to God. Yeah, they're evil as shit.

But to the point, the thing is, neither party has ever argued, "Meh, fuck those poor people, let them die!"

The Libertarian Loons might have. But for most of the GOP's party's existence, they've kept these loons at the Kiddy Table while the Grownups were talking.

Point was, in 1993, Democrats proposed a government program to cover the uninsured and Republicans proposed subsidies to private insurance to take people they'd otherwise never touch. Then the discussion got tabled for a while and when we got back to it, Democrats said, "Yeah, we can live with subsidies".

In short, Republicans were all for ObamaCare until the Black Guy Did It.

Did ya hear that folks, this puke says Mormons are "evil as shit".

Typical American lib.

 

[Dot Com]

I just heard, on good authority, that the Repubs might cave as early as tomorrow. Thursday at the latest unless they want to earn the ribbon for creating a global depression.

 

[Mertex]

If teaps get anything with ACA and debt ceiling, then they will come back on Roe v Wade, on DOMA and DADT, and host of other things.

Not possible, ever.

next they will want to kill the EPA, FEMA, Dept. of Commerce, Dept. of Education, privatize SS and Medicare, etc etc.

Sounds good to me!

Yeah, until your ass is in trouble and then you'll be the first to cry "Where's the government when you need it"!

 

[Mertex]

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I wondered when the Heritage Foundation article would come up ! Lol ! Yeah, that proves that conservatives always wanted the government to take over the healthcare system ! Too funny !

Again, you can find a few examples where some Republicans were for a government system, just as you can find some Dims against abortion. Doesn't mean shit.

And by the way, typical lib that would refer to someone as being "evil" simply because they are a Mormon.

Mormons think that a Child-molesting con-artist was talking to God. Yeah, they're evil as shit.

But to the point, the thing is, neither party has ever argued, "Meh, fuck those poor people, let them die!"

The Libertarian Loons might have. But for most of the GOP's party's existence, they've kept these loons at the Kiddy Table while the Grownups were talking.

Point was, in 1993, Democrats proposed a government program to cover the uninsured and Republicans proposed subsidies to private insurance to take people they'd otherwise never touch. Then the discussion got tabled for a while and when we got back to it, Democrats said, "Yeah, we can live with subsidies".

In short, Republicans were all for ObamaCare until the Black Guy Did It.

Did ya hear that folks, this puke says Mormons are "evil as shit".

Typical American lib.

Christian conservatives didn't think much of Mormons either, that is until Romney ran on their ticket, then they became BFFs.

 

[JoeB131]

Mormons think that a Child-molesting con-artist was talking to God. Yeah, they're evil as shit.

But to the point, the thing is, neither party has ever argued, "Meh, fuck those poor people, let them die!"

The Libertarian Loons might have. But for most of the GOP's party's existence, they've kept these loons at the Kiddy Table while the Grownups were talking.

Point was, in 1993, Democrats proposed a government program to cover the uninsured and Republicans proposed subsidies to private insurance to take people they'd otherwise never touch. Then the discussion got tabled for a while and when we got back to it, Democrats said, "Yeah, we can live with subsidies".

In short, Republicans were all for ObamaCare until the Black Guy Did It.

Did ya hear that folks, this puke says Mormons are "evil as shit".

Typical American lib.

Christian conservatives didn't think much of Mormons either, that is until Romney ran on their ticket, then they became BFFs.

Well, he was "White and Delightsome"... (If you know anything about Mormon dogma, you'll get that joke.)

I do find it hilarious, that the Funditards fought against Romney tooth and nail until they were stuck with him.

I guess all that stuff about them being a cult and damning people's eternal souls didn't count when there was a black man in the White House.

 

[Interpol]

How retarded are Republicans that 2 weeks ago they went into this thing thinking they would get rid of Obamacare, and now Obamacare is here to stay AND Republicans are losing ground on their own sequester numbers, which Democrats had already agreed to extend!

But no, the Republicans kept saying, "They're not negotiating with us!". So now that Democrats are negotiating to get rid of some of the sequester and that Obamacare is here to stay, I wonder if that doesn't make Republicans feel like total effing tools.

They had already won the budget argument going into this but snatched defeat from the jaws of victory, which is usually what Democrats do!

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Mormons think that a Child-molesting con-artist was talking to God. Yeah, they're evil as shit.

But to the point, the thing is, neither party has ever argued, "Meh, fuck those poor people, let them die!"

The Libertarian Loons might have. But for most of the GOP's party's existence, they've kept these loons at the Kiddy Table while the Grownups were talking.

Point was, in 1993, Democrats proposed a government program to cover the uninsured and Republicans proposed subsidies to private insurance to take people they'd otherwise never touch. Then the discussion got tabled for a while and when we got back to it, Democrats said, "Yeah, we can live with subsidies".

In short, Republicans were all for ObamaCare until the Black Guy Did It.

Did ya hear that folks, this puke says Mormons are "evil as shit".

Typical American lib.

Christian conservatives didn't think much of Mormons either, that is until Romney ran on their ticket, then they became BFFs.

They may not agree much with Mormons, but I doubt very many Christians view Mormons as "evil".

 

[JoeB131]

Did ya hear that folks, this puke says Mormons are "evil as shit".

Typical American lib.

Christian conservatives didn't think much of Mormons either, that is until Romney ran on their ticket, then they became BFFs.

They may not agree much with Mormons, but I doubt very many Christians view Mormons as "evil".

That's because most of them don't know what they actually believe.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Christian conservatives didn't think much of Mormons either, that is until Romney ran on their ticket, then they became BFFs.

They may not agree much with Mormons, but I doubt very many Christians view Mormons as "evil".

That's because most of them don't know what they actually believe.

Do you believe Muslims are evil ?

 

[JoeB131]

They may not agree much with Mormons, but I doubt very many Christians view Mormons as "evil".

That's because most of them don't know what they actually believe.

Do you believe Muslims are evil ?

Not really. Just ignorant and superstitious, like most religions.

You see, I don't really think Mohammed was talking to God, (highly unlikely) or if his followers just ascribed mystic stuff to him because they were Iron Age savages.

Joseph Smith, however, was a fraud from day one, and the guy knew he was pulling a fraud. A fraud involving misogyny, racism and homophobia.

 

[JoeB131]

The reason we have a problem with muslims is because we keep sticking our dicks in a hornet's nest and wondering why we get stung.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

That's because most of them don't know what they actually believe.

Do you believe Muslims are evil ?

Not really. Just ignorant and superstitious, like most religions.

You see, I don't really think Mohammed was talking to God, (highly unlikely) or if his followers just ascribed mystic stuff to him because they were Iron Age savages.

Joseph Smith, however, was a fraud from day one, and the guy knew he was pulling a fraud. A fraud involving misogyny, racism and homophobia.

And there's no misogyny or homophobia with Muslims ? You're definitely a typical American liberal.

By the way, this means you believe your Senate majority leader is "evil".

 

[JoeB131]

Do you believe Muslims are evil ?

Not really. Just ignorant and superstitious, like most religions.

You see, I don't really think Mohammed was talking to God, (highly unlikely) or if his followers just ascribed mystic stuff to him because they were Iron Age savages.

Joseph Smith, however, was a fraud from day one, and the guy knew he was pulling a fraud. A fraud involving misogyny, racism and homophobia.

And there's no misogyny or homophobia with Muslims ? You're definitely a typical American liberal.

By the way, this means you believe your Senate majority leader is "evil".

He's not my senate leader, I'm a registered Republican.

Point is, Islam is only a problem because we keep sticking our dicks in their business.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Not really. Just ignorant and superstitious, like most religions.

You see, I don't really think Mohammed was talking to God, (highly unlikely) or if his followers just ascribed mystic stuff to him because they were Iron Age savages.

Joseph Smith, however, was a fraud from day one, and the guy knew he was pulling a fraud. A fraud involving misogyny, racism and homophobia.

And there's no misogyny or homophobia with Muslims ? You're definitely a typical American liberal.

By the way, this means you believe your Senate majority leader is "evil".

He's not my senate leader, I'm a registered Republican.

Point is, Islam is only a problem because we keep sticking our dicks in their business.

But wait, Muhammed was a pedophile, and there's misogyny and homophobia throughout the Islamic world. How come you don't think Muslims are "evil" too then ?

 

[JoeB131]

And there's no misogyny or homophobia with Muslims ? You're definitely a typical American liberal.

By the way, this means you believe your Senate majority leader is "evil".

He's not my senate leader, I'm a registered Republican.

Point is, Islam is only a problem because we keep sticking our dicks in their business.

But wait, Muhammed was a pedophile, and there's misogyny and homophobia throughout the Islamic world. How come you don't think Muslims are "evil" too then ?

Hey, maybe you need to take your schtick over to the middle east, they'll love that shit over there.

Not even sure what your point is, other than the typical, 'But, but, but... muslims are worse."

Maybe they are. They are also not my problem.