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Get the message conservatives:
If the fractions of the GOP remain divided, the next president will be a Democrat.
as much as I agree with that statement, the choice of McCain in 2008 and Romney in 2012 were the reason for the loss of the Presidency.
If Romney have been chosen in 2008 - he might have been the president, but the boring and unappealing McCain pushed a lot of people to vote for obama - just to taste something new.
Get the message conservatives:
If the fractions of the GOP remain divided, the next president will be a Democrat.
as much as I agree with that statement, the choice of McCain in 2008 and Romney in 2012 were the reason for the loss of the Presidency.
If Romney have been chosen in 2008 - he might have been the president, but the boring and unappealing McCain pushed a lot of people to vote for obama - just to taste something new.
The reason why Romney didn't get the nomination in 2008 is that the Christian Crazies didn't like his brand of Mormon Crazy.
I think that you trivialize why people voted for Obama. Didn't vote for him in 2008, did in 2012
They voted for Obama because
1) He was the first guy to come out and say the Iraq War was a HORRIBLE idea.
2) Bush screwed up the economy.
Both of which are completely valid reasons.
I have been called all sorts of things. But the GOP has been hijacked by the crazies.
Once upon a time, to be "conservative" was to want less gov't intrusion and interference in our lives. It meant you wanted less and fairer taxation. It was about the gov't spending less.
That brand of conservatism could sweep the nation. But instead, we get the vitriolic hatred of those who want to make it about gays, minorities, prayer, eliminating social programs, and other venues of social conservatives.
If the GOP would stick with a platform of fiscal conservatism and stay out of the social arena, they would win big.
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Not true. The reason was that the idiotic way of republican party is that all ole guys have to have their shot when they have been in the line for long enough.
Faith issues have absolutely no meaning in all of that.
If the option would not be McCain but Romney much more people from the right would turn out for the election - it was basically sit out for McCain in 2008 as in 2012 it was for Romney.
Every fruit has it's own time.
youe #1 reason had some meaning in 2008, but neither in 2008 nor in 2012 # 2 had any meaning - as in 2008 it was too early to reflect on the crisis of 2008 which just started and in 2012 obama's failures in economy were all too glaring in comparison to Bush times, when the economy was booming.
But the candidate was not appealing, and the candidate himself made so many mistakes in the campaign, it is ridiculous. It was 2012, not 1972, for heaven's sake.
McCain is a great American hero who has served his country well
well, the result is the same, so it doesn't really matter - I just summarized it ironically[
Not true. The reason was that the idiotic way of republican party is that all ole guys have to have their shot when they have been in the line for long enough.
Not really true. It's just that usually the Old guys know how to play the game better than new guys.
I think if you had spent time on conservative message boards in 2008, where a lot of these Fundie Christians simply were not going to vote for a Mormon, you know that isn't true. When Huckabee won Iowa (where McCain hadn't even bothered to play, and Romney sunk MILLIONS) the GOP establishment completely shit themselves. Huckabee scared them because he was a populist Christian who didn't think Jesus' central message was tax cuts for rich people.
McCain was the guy both sides could live with.
Again, you are really working on the assumption there were that many GOP/Conservative votes to actually get. To put in in perspective for you. McCain got 59 Million votes, George W. Stupid got 62 million in 2004 and Romney got 60 million. McCain and Romney didn't lose "conservatives", they lost moderates who realized what a huge honking mistake they made voting for Bush in 2004.
First of all, everyone realized the bottom was already falling out in 2007, and when the crash hit in September 2008, everyone knew how bad it really was.
BULLSHIT. he created the mess and extended itAs for Obama's failure in the economy, most Americans were fair enough to realize he had been handed a mess and had done the best he could with it, and all Romney was proposing was more of what got us into the mess to start with.
But you have to ask WHY was Romney so unappealing?
Maybe because he was a heartless rich douchebag with a crazy religion.
I find that pretty unappealing, and so did most people.
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Nope, they lost the conservatives, especially Romney. Moderates voted for Romney - they have had enough of the leftard shit we have in the WH
absolutely NOT TRUE. 2007 was still pretty good and unemployment was low and perspectives for the simple people seemed PERFECT
But you have to ask WHY was Romney so unappealing?
Maybe because he was a heartless rich douchebag with a crazy religion.
I find that pretty unappealing, and so did most people.
Nope. He was simply DULL and almost without a life.
The only time he showed teeth and his ratings skyrocketed.
But his advisers with advising him to be careful and God forbid, do not aggressively pursue the shot in the WH let him to be this unappealing dull candidate - and THAT was a failure.
Plus one can not be so unprepared to deal with the leftard shit as he was on his last debate when that bitch Crowley astonished him with her big lie and he was not prepared to deal with that lie
That was the last straw.
