Give a man a fish.......

[Freewill]

Liberals think government is good.

That alone is proof of their inability to think.

Society does not exist without government

Really?

So...then logically, there would be no society if there were no government.

You know some people who are ignorant keep quiet and others like you are proud to show it.

No society on earth has ever functioned without some type of government. From the smallest tribe to the largest mega-society, some form of government is needed

Quite with the BS no one is calling for anarchy? What is wrong with the liberal left?

 

[Dogmaphobe]

This thread needs a visual aid to illustrate all the principles outlined above..

 

[gipper]

Liberals think government is good.

That alone is proof of their inability to think.

Society does not exist without government

Really?

So...then logically, there would be no society if there were no government.

You know some people who are ignorant keep quiet and others like you are proud to show it.

No society on earth has ever functioned without some type of government. From the smallest tribe to the largest mega-society, some form of government is needed

If only you were capable of educating...time to grow up my son.

Throughout history, the vast majority of people have believed that government was a necessary part of human existence…and so there have always been governments. People have believed they had to have a government because their leaders said so, because they always had one, and most of all because they found the world unexplainable and frightening and felt a need for someone to lead them. Mankind’s fear of freedom has always been a fear of self-reliance—of being thrown on his own to face a frightening world, with no one else to tell him what to do. But we are no longer terrified savages making offerings to a lightning god or cowering Medieval serfs hiding from ghosts and witches. We have learned that man can understand and control his environment and his own life, and we have no need of high priests or kings or presidents to tell us what to do. Government is now known for what it is. It belongs in the dark past with the rest of man’s superstitions. It’s time for men to grow up so that each individual man can walk forward into the sunlight of freedom...in full control of his own life!
To advocate government is to advocate slavery. To advocate limited government is to advocate limited slavery.
The Market for Liberty by Linda and Morris Tannehill

 

[gipper]

Liberals think government is good.

That alone is proof of their inability to think.

Society does not exist without government

Really?

So...then logically, there would be no society if there were no government.

You know some people who are ignorant keep quiet and others like you are proud to show it.

No society on earth has ever functioned without some type of government. From the smallest tribe to the largest mega-society, some form of government is needed

Quite with the BS no one is calling for anarchy? What is wrong with the liberal left?

I will gladly take anarchy over what we have now.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day, teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime

This is one of the cornerstones of conservatism today. Self determination. No "free stuff". Who could have a problem with such a basic principle of society? Why don't Liberals get it?

But what happens when there are no fish where you live?
What happens if you can't afford a pole, tackle and a license?
What happens when you go to fish and are told......."Only members are allowed to fish here"

This is where government comes in. The idea that once you have taught people to fish, your job is done does not always work in a society. Sometimes we need government to break dowmn barriers to fishing

 

[Impenitent]

Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day, teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime

This is one of the cornerstones of conservatism today. Self determination. No "free stuff". Who could have a problem with such a basic principle of society? Why don't Liberals get it?

But what happens when there are no fish where you live?
What happens if you can't afford a pole, tackle and a license?
What happens when you go to fish and are told......."Only members are allowed to fish here"

This is where government comes in. The idea that once you have taught people to fish, your job is done does not always work in a society. Sometimes we need government to break dowmn barriers to fishing

Poor people shouldn't get to eat fish:

Stewart Why the Hell Is Fox News So Obsessed with Poor People Eating Seafood Mediaite

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Give a Progressive a city, and you get Detroit

 

[Contumacious]

Liberals think government is good.

That alone is proof of their inability to think.

Society does not exist without government

Really?

So...then logically, there would be no society if there were no government.

You know some people who are ignorant keep quiet and others like you are proud to show it.

No society on earth has ever functioned without some type of government. From the smallest tribe to the largest mega-society, some form of government is needed

Quite with the BS no one is calling for anarchy? What is wrong with the liberal left?

The parasitic left defines anarchy as where an individual is not subject to the jurisdiction. of the welfare/warfare state.

.

 

[rightwinger]

Liberals think government is good.

That alone is proof of their inability to think.

Society does not exist without government

Really?

So...then logically, there would be no society if there were no government.

You know some people who are ignorant keep quiet and others like you are proud to show it.

No society on earth has ever functioned without some type of government. From the smallest tribe to the largest mega-society, some form of government is needed

Quite with the BS no one is calling for anarchy? What is wrong with the liberal left?

Gipper is discounting the need for a government. Take it up with him

 

[Mr Natural]

Liberals think government is good.

That alone is proof of their inability to think.

Society does not exist without government

Really?

So...then logically, there would be no society if there were no government.

You know some people who are ignorant keep quiet and others like you are proud to show it.

No society on earth has ever functioned without some type of government. From the smallest tribe to the largest mega-society, some form of government is needed

Quite with the BS no one is calling for anarchy? What is wrong with the liberal left?

I will gladly take anarchy over what we have now.

And what is it that you can't do now that you could when St Reagan was president?

 

[Freewill]

Society does not exist without government

Really?

So...then logically, there would be no society if there were no government.

You know some people who are ignorant keep quiet and others like you are proud to show it.

No society on earth has ever functioned without some type of government. From the smallest tribe to the largest mega-society, some form of government is needed

Quite with the BS no one is calling for anarchy? What is wrong with the liberal left?

I will gladly take anarchy over what we have now.

And what is it that you can't do now that you could when St Reagan was president?

Apparently have a president worth a crap.

 

[rightwinger]

Liberals think government is good.

That alone is proof of their inability to think.

Society does not exist without government

Really?

So...then logically, there would be no society if there were no government.

You know some people who are ignorant keep quiet and others like you are proud to show it.

No society on earth has ever functioned without some type of government. From the smallest tribe to the largest mega-society, some form of government is needed

If only you were capable of educating...time to grow up my son.

Throughout history, the vast majority of people have believed that government was a necessary part of human existence…and so there have always been governments. People have believed they had to have a government because their leaders said so, because they always had one, and most of all because they found the world unexplainable and frightening and felt a need for someone to lead them. Mankind’s fear of freedom has always been a fear of self-reliance—of being thrown on his own to face a frightening world, with no one else to tell him what to do. But we are no longer terrified savages making offerings to a lightning god or cowering Medieval serfs hiding from ghosts and witches. We have learned that man can understand and control his environment and his own life, and we have no need of high priests or kings or presidents to tell us what to do. Government is now known for what it is. It belongs in the dark past with the rest of man’s superstitions. It’s time for men to grow up so that each individual man can walk forward into the sunlight of freedom...in full control of his own life!
To advocate government is to advocate slavery. To advocate limited government is to advocate limited slavery.
The Market for Liberty by Linda and Morris Tannehill

Hard to believe we actually have adults who buy into this nonsense fantasy world

A society cannot function without government, Your every man for himself/survival of the fittest can not work at any level. Your society provides you with security, commerce, wealth, safety and a form of culture

You anarchists make me laugh

 

[Rotagilla]

Liberals think government is good.

That alone is proof of their inability to think.

Society does not exist without government

Really?

So...then logically, there would be no society if there were no government.

You know some people who are ignorant keep quiet and others like you are proud to show it.

No society on earth has ever functioned without some type of government. From the smallest tribe to the largest mega-society, some form of government is needed

Quite with the BS no one is calling for anarchy? What is wrong with the liberal left?

I will gladly take anarchy over what we have now.

"what we have now" is a temporary condition preceding some intense corrections that are inevitably coming and a brief period of anarchy will probably be involved...if one believes that the past is prologue to the future...

 

[gipper]

Society does not exist without government

Really?

So...then logically, there would be no society if there were no government.

You know some people who are ignorant keep quiet and others like you are proud to show it.

No society on earth has ever functioned without some type of government. From the smallest tribe to the largest mega-society, some form of government is needed

Quite with the BS no one is calling for anarchy? What is wrong with the liberal left?

I will gladly take anarchy over what we have now.

And what is it that you can't do now that you could when St Reagan was president?

Sorry for the confusion, but I have little in common with Ronnie.

But this guy is great!

 

[Rozman]

Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day, teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime

This is one of the cornerstones of conservatism today. Self determination. No "free stuff". Who could have a problem with such a basic principle of society? Why don't Liberals get it?

But what happens when there are no fish where you live?
What happens if you can't afford a pole, tackle and a license?
What happens when you go to fish and are told......."Only members are allowed to fish here"

This is where government comes in. The idea that once you have taught people to fish, your job is done does not always work in a society. Sometimes we need government to break dowmn barriers to fishing

too bad our government as of late tends

to put up more barriers to fishing

rather then breaking them down

Better have the right Federal Government permit
Better have the right State permit
Better have the right City permit
Better have the right County permit
Better have something to make the EPA happy....
Better be using the right bait dont want to piss of PETA

By the time anyone figures out the rules and regulations the fish have come and gone.

 

[gipper]

Liberals think government is good.

That alone is proof of their inability to think.

Society does not exist without government

Really?

So...then logically, there would be no society if there were no government.

You know some people who are ignorant keep quiet and others like you are proud to show it.

No society on earth has ever functioned without some type of government. From the smallest tribe to the largest mega-society, some form of government is needed

If only you were capable of educating...time to grow up my son.

Throughout history, the vast majority of people have believed that government was a necessary part of human existence…and so there have always been governments. People have believed they had to have a government because their leaders said so, because they always had one, and most of all because they found the world unexplainable and frightening and felt a need for someone to lead them. Mankind’s fear of freedom has always been a fear of self-reliance—of being thrown on his own to face a frightening world, with no one else to tell him what to do. But we are no longer terrified savages making offerings to a lightning god or cowering Medieval serfs hiding from ghosts and witches. We have learned that man can understand and control his environment and his own life, and we have no need of high priests or kings or presidents to tell us what to do. Government is now known for what it is. It belongs in the dark past with the rest of man’s superstitions. It’s time for men to grow up so that each individual man can walk forward into the sunlight of freedom...in full control of his own life!
To advocate government is to advocate slavery. To advocate limited government is to advocate limited slavery.
The Market for Liberty by Linda and Morris Tannehill

Hard to believe we actually have adults who buy into this nonsense fantasy world

A society cannot function without government, Your every man for himself/survival of the fittest can not work at any level. Your society provides you with security, commerce, wealth, safety and a form of culture

You anarchists make me laugh

To think as you do, you have to be terribly ignorant.

Government is the source of all that is bad and evil...throughout the history of all human civilization. To not know this, is proof you know nothing that is true.

 

[Skull Pilot]

..that's quite profound, little partisan.

You got it all figured out.

If all the energy and resources devoted to apologizing for and subsidising bad life choices were devoted to educating people that citizens had a duty and responsibility to prepare for life, and take care of themselves, we could eliminate most poverty in a generation.

Continued dependence is the sole hope of the Democrat party, so, I expect no change.

If the factory that supported your community moves to China, is that a bad life choice?

That is the problem facing our cities. The jobs that used to sustain the people (you may even call them fish) are gone

Then move.

People aren't chained to a spot in this country you know.

You remind me of the dog on a nail story.

Tom just moved into a new neighborhood recently. He liked his house and his environment, but there was one thing he didn’t get.


His neighbor, Mr Tan, had a dog that kept howling non-stop. Literally. Day in, day out.

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“Auuuuuhhhh………. Aaaauhhhh……….”

Initially Tom thought the dog was just going through a phase, so he ignored the howls, thinking it would eventually stop.

But it didn’t. It continued howling.

“Auuuu…………auuuu………..Auuuhhhhh…….”

1 day passed. Nothing changed. 2 days passed. Still howling. 3 days. 5 days. 1 week. 2 weeks. 1 month. Still howling, with no signs of stopping.

“Auuuhhh………….Oouuuuuhhhhh…….Au au auuhhhhh..”


Finally, Tom couldn’t stand it anymore. One fine day, he walked over to Mr Tan’s house to see what was going on.

Sure enough, there was the dog, sitting at the front porch, howling pitifully to whoever was walking by.

“Auuuhhh…Ouuuhhh….Auuuuuuuuuuuuuu………Au au au auu au au auuuuhhhhh….”

On the other hand, Mr Tan was relaxing on his bench at the lawn, leisurely reading his newspapers and sipping a cup of coffee.

Wondering what was going on, Tom walked up to Mr Tan.

Tom: “Hi Mr Tan, is that your dog?”

Mr Tan: “Which dog?” He glanced around. “Oh that. Yep he’s mine.”

Tom: “Why does he keep howling?”

Mr Tan: “Oh, that’s cause he’s sitting on a nail.”

Tom: “Sitting on a nail?!?” Tom gave the dog a bewildered look.

“..Okay… so why doesn’t he just get away from the nail then??”

“Well, Tom………”, Mr Tan took a slow sip of his coffee before replying.

“…That’s because he doesn’t find it painful enough yet.”

Very good answer....just move

Why don't people just move to locations where the fish are? Many times it is because they don't have the money to pack up and move to a location where they don't know anyone and don't know where the fishing spots (jobs) are

Many times locals resent those moving from other areas and hogging their fishing spots

More excuses.

And it's real easy to know where the jobs are. Just get your ass down to the nearest FREE library and look it up

 

[Skull Pilot]

Liberals think government is good.

That alone is proof of their inability to think.

Society does not exist without government

People with a brain know that government is a necessary evil and not a thing to be lauded as a panacea

 

[rightwinger]

Society does not exist without government

Really?

So...then logically, there would be no society if there were no government.

You know some people who are ignorant keep quiet and others like you are proud to show it.

No society on earth has ever functioned without some type of government. From the smallest tribe to the largest mega-society, some form of government is needed

If only you were capable of educating...time to grow up my son.

Throughout history, the vast majority of people have believed that government was a necessary part of human existence…and so there have always been governments. People have believed they had to have a government because their leaders said so, because they always had one, and most of all because they found the world unexplainable and frightening and felt a need for someone to lead them. Mankind’s fear of freedom has always been a fear of self-reliance—of being thrown on his own to face a frightening world, with no one else to tell him what to do. But we are no longer terrified savages making offerings to a lightning god or cowering Medieval serfs hiding from ghosts and witches. We have learned that man can understand and control his environment and his own life, and we have no need of high priests or kings or presidents to tell us what to do. Government is now known for what it is. It belongs in the dark past with the rest of man’s superstitions. It’s time for men to grow up so that each individual man can walk forward into the sunlight of freedom...in full control of his own life!
To advocate government is to advocate slavery. To advocate limited government is to advocate limited slavery.
The Market for Liberty by Linda and Morris Tannehill

Hard to believe we actually have adults who buy into this nonsense fantasy world

A society cannot function without government, Your every man for himself/survival of the fittest can not work at any level. Your society provides you with security, commerce, wealth, safety and a form of culture

You anarchists make me laugh

To think as you do, you have to be terribly ignorant.

Government is the source of all that is bad and evil...throughout the history of all human civilization. To not know this, is proof you know nothing that is true.

Anarchy as public policy
Take it up in another thread

 

[rightwinger]

Liberals think government is good.

That alone is proof of their inability to think.

Society does not exist without government

People with a brain know that government is a necessary evil and not a thing to be lauded as a panacea

Tell it to gipper