Go ahead GOP. Defund Planned Parenthood. Show American women how much you care.

But by all means let's paint all women with the same brush.

Buzz word: paint all women with the same brush.
Over 1.5 million abortions last year were performed, do you think that number consisted entirely of women living in poverty? Think about it for a minute; if that were true, PP would be out of business and those big salaries would be no more.
I'm pro-choice and believe that we each should be held accountable for our decisions and choices that we make; however, it doesn't mean that we should turn a blind eye to what's happening right under our noses.

Where did you get your numbers from?

Induced Abortion in the United States

• In 2011, 1.06 million abortions were performed, down 13% from 1.21 million in 2008.

• Forty-two percent of women obtaining abortions have incomes below 100% of the federal poverty level ($10,830 for a single woman with no children).[3]

• Twenty-seven percent of women obtaining abortions have incomes between 100–199% of the federal poverty level. * [3]​


There are only about 1 million abortions per year and that is still declining because of contraception provided by the ACA.

69% of all women who obtain abortions have incomes below 2 times the poverty level.

So yes, 4 in 10 do live in poverty and 3 in 10 live barely above the poverty level.

Those abortions are paid for by donations to PP.

60% of PP's funding comes from donations and yes, that is who is paying for those abortions so that PP doesn't "go out of business".

Fast Facts: U.S. Abortion Statistics | Fox News

If, as you say, abortions are paid in full by contributors who donate to PP, why then are subsidies given?
Who pays for PP's exorbitant staff salaries?
"69% of all women who obtain abortions have incomes below 2 times the poverty level." Do you find this statistic to be justifiable?
Where does sex education come into play?

My source was the respected nonpartisan Guttmacher Institute.

Anything that is provided via partisan sources like FauxNoise is less than credible IMO.

To answer your questions;

1. Taxpayer subsidies to PP are for the healthcare services such as papsmears and mammograms. Please note that it is illegal to use taxpayer funds for abortions. None of the taxpayer funds are used for abortions. That money comes exclusively from donations by supporters of PP.

2. Who says that they are "exorbitant"? FauxNoise? How do they reach that conclusion?

3. What needs to be justified about factual data. Go to Guttmacher and look at how they compile their data. It is all open and above board.

About the Guttmacher Institute

4. Sex education tells you about contraceptives. If you can't afford them the education is meaningless.
PP gives out free contraceptive, but many blacks prefer the contraceptive, abortion. We have fewer blacks now than we would have if PP did not exist. Is that your selling point?

"many blacks prefer the contraceptive, abortion"

Why don't you try providing credible non partisan sources to back up your lies first?
 
Manual Vacuum Aspiration:within 7 weeks after last menstrual periodDilators (metal rods) are used to stretch the cervical muscle until the opening is wide enough for abortion instruments to pass through the uterus. A hand-held syringe is attached to tubing, which is inserted into the uterus. The fetus is suctioned out.
Heartbeat stops and all is well.

A former friend of mine has had four abortions thus far. She couldn't afford to be pregnant because her boyfriend would leave her. Let's no think of her as being frivolous and uncaring, let's think of her as contributing to the cure of diseases, that way we can all sleep well.

But by all means let's paint all women with the same brush.

Buzz word: paint all women with the same brush.
Over 1.5 million abortions last year were performed, do you think that number consisted entirely of women living in poverty? Think about it for a minute; if that were true, PP would be out of business and those big salaries would be no more.
I'm pro-choice and believe that we each should be held accountable for our decisions and choices that we make; however, it doesn't mean that we should turn a blind eye to what's happening right under our noses.

Where did you get your numbers from?

Induced Abortion in the United States

• In 2011, 1.06 million abortions were performed, down 13% from 1.21 million in 2008.

• Forty-two percent of women obtaining abortions have incomes below 100% of the federal poverty level ($10,830 for a single woman with no children).[3]

• Twenty-seven percent of women obtaining abortions have incomes between 100–199% of the federal poverty level. * [3]​


There are only about 1 million abortions per year and that is still declining because of contraception provided by the ACA.

69% of all women who obtain abortions have incomes below 2 times the poverty level.

So yes, 4 in 10 do live in poverty and 3 in 10 live barely above the poverty level.

Those abortions are paid for by donations to PP.

60% of PP's funding comes from donations and yes, that is who is paying for those abortions so that PP doesn't "go out of business".

Fast Facts: U.S. Abortion Statistics | Fox News

If, as you say, abortions are paid in full by contributors who donate to PP, why then are subsidies given?
Who pays for PP's exorbitant staff salaries?
"69% of all women who obtain abortions have incomes below 2 times the poverty level." Do you find this statistic to be justifiable?
Where does sex education come into play?

My source was the respected nonpartisan Guttmacher Institute.

Anything that is provided via partisan sources like FauxNoise is less than credible IMO.

To answer your questions;

1. Taxpayer subsidies to PP are for the healthcare services such as papsmears and mammograms. Please note that it is illegal to use taxpayer funds for abortions. None of the taxpayer funds are used for abortions. That money comes exclusively from donations by supporters of PP.

2. Who says that they are "exorbitant"? FauxNoise? How do they reach that conclusion?

3. What needs to be justified about factual data. Go to Guttmacher and look at how they compile their data. It is all open and above board.

About the Guttmacher Institute

4. Sex education tells you about contraceptives. If you can't afford them the education is meaningless.

I've been taught to listen to all sides of an argument and then make a decision as to where you stand on the issue.
As I've said previously, I'm pro-choice because I think people should make their own decisions and choices concerning their lives, but they also should be held accountable for their choices and any repercussions that may follow.
"4. Sex education tells you about contraceptives. If you can't afford them the education is meaningless"
Admittedly, I find the #4 statement to be utterly unintelligent because you are limiting sex education to the act of copulation only, and to say that a person unable to afford any type of birth control nullifies sex education is off the charts for me.
PP does not offer mammograms, but they do offer services to women and men who otherwise might not have another source in their community, and they are to be commended for efforts.
Surely, you don't deny that there are depraved people walking among us, who would do anything for a dollar.
Unfortunately, these people work in positions where they are respected for helping the less fortunate, while at the same time, they are helping themselves to amass a fortune from the innocent.
The recent videos showing PP scheming in the shaded areas were upsetting to say the least, and people should not turn a blind eye because it's the politically correct thing to do.
 
But by all means let's paint all women with the same brush.

Buzz word: paint all women with the same brush.
Over 1.5 million abortions last year were performed, do you think that number consisted entirely of women living in poverty? Think about it for a minute; if that were true, PP would be out of business and those big salaries would be no more.
I'm pro-choice and believe that we each should be held accountable for our decisions and choices that we make; however, it doesn't mean that we should turn a blind eye to what's happening right under our noses.

Where did you get your numbers from?

Induced Abortion in the United States

• In 2011, 1.06 million abortions were performed, down 13% from 1.21 million in 2008.

• Forty-two percent of women obtaining abortions have incomes below 100% of the federal poverty level ($10,830 for a single woman with no children).[3]

• Twenty-seven percent of women obtaining abortions have incomes between 100–199% of the federal poverty level. * [3]​


There are only about 1 million abortions per year and that is still declining because of contraception provided by the ACA.

69% of all women who obtain abortions have incomes below 2 times the poverty level.

So yes, 4 in 10 do live in poverty and 3 in 10 live barely above the poverty level.

Those abortions are paid for by donations to PP.

60% of PP's funding comes from donations and yes, that is who is paying for those abortions so that PP doesn't "go out of business".

Fast Facts: U.S. Abortion Statistics | Fox News

If, as you say, abortions are paid in full by contributors who donate to PP, why then are subsidies given?
Who pays for PP's exorbitant staff salaries?
"69% of all women who obtain abortions have incomes below 2 times the poverty level." Do you find this statistic to be justifiable?
Where does sex education come into play?

My source was the respected nonpartisan Guttmacher Institute.

Anything that is provided via partisan sources like FauxNoise is less than credible IMO.

To answer your questions;

1. Taxpayer subsidies to PP are for the healthcare services such as papsmears and mammograms. Please note that it is illegal to use taxpayer funds for abortions. None of the taxpayer funds are used for abortions. That money comes exclusively from donations by supporters of PP.

2. Who says that they are "exorbitant"? FauxNoise? How do they reach that conclusion?

3. What needs to be justified about factual data. Go to Guttmacher and look at how they compile their data. It is all open and above board.

About the Guttmacher Institute

4. Sex education tells you about contraceptives. If you can't afford them the education is meaningless.
PP gives out free contraceptive, but many blacks prefer the contraceptive, abortion. We have fewer blacks now than we would have if PP did not exist. Is that your selling point?

I don't have a selling point. If a woman chooses to have an abortion, that's her choice. I just don't think people should turn a blind eye to what's happening under their nose.
 
Since PP is a non-profit organization that provides free pap smears and mammograms where do your see these imaginary dollar signs?
Planned Parenthood CEO Cecile Richards Now Makes Over 500 000 LifeNews.com

Does she drive a Lamborghini?

Let that sink in for a minute. Some 50+ year old bat joking around about hacking up baby remains so she can buy a car. One in the alleged healthcare industry on top of that.

Some people are extremely vile. She would be one.

Her salary would not be dependent upon donations of fetal tissue.

And if she was joking was she joking because she can't afford a luxury car on her current salary?

Needless to say the anti-rights zealots edited out the context.
Suppose you post the complete response, context and all.

Since neither of us were there that is a ridiculous request.

However we have the evidence of the edited videos to prove that the anti-rights zealots took other things out of context so there is every reason to believe they doctored that too.

At least that is the conclusion that honest people with integrity would come to given the facts as we currently know them.

What conclusion you reach is entirely your problem.
 
Libs know women can get these services from other healthcare providers. What they are really worried about is democrat candidates losing tax payer funded donations.

So your real motive is to deprive Dems of donations and you don't actually care what happens to the fetal tissue at all?

I want women and young girls to get the best possible care. Not be sent to organizations and clinics that see them as dollar signs.

Since PP is a non-profit organization that provides free pap smears and mammograms where do your see these imaginary dollar signs?

Free Pap smears and mammograms can be obtained through Medicare or any other healthcare provider and your own OBGYN. You don't need PP for that.

You do if they are the only provider where you live.

Obama signed up record numbers of low income folks to Medicaid. There are facilities available and they are receiving subsidies to use them. Why should they settle for shoddy PP services again?
 
So your real motive is to deprive Dems of donations and you don't actually care what happens to the fetal tissue at all?

I want women and young girls to get the best possible care. Not be sent to organizations and clinics that see them as dollar signs.

Since PP is a non-profit organization that provides free pap smears and mammograms where do your see these imaginary dollar signs?

Free Pap smears and mammograms can be obtained through Medicare and your own OBGYN. You don't need PP for that.

PP doesn't offer mammograms.

They offer breast exams and arrange for mobile mammogram services in areas that don't have mammograms.

Planned Parenthood and Mammograms

The hospitals also have mobile mammogram programs. I know... I work for one that offers them.
 
Buzz word: paint all women with the same brush.
Over 1.5 million abortions last year were performed, do you think that number consisted entirely of women living in poverty? Think about it for a minute; if that were true, PP would be out of business and those big salaries would be no more.
I'm pro-choice and believe that we each should be held accountable for our decisions and choices that we make; however, it doesn't mean that we should turn a blind eye to what's happening right under our noses.

Where did you get your numbers from?

Induced Abortion in the United States

• In 2011, 1.06 million abortions were performed, down 13% from 1.21 million in 2008.

• Forty-two percent of women obtaining abortions have incomes below 100% of the federal poverty level ($10,830 for a single woman with no children).[3]

• Twenty-seven percent of women obtaining abortions have incomes between 100–199% of the federal poverty level. * [3]​


There are only about 1 million abortions per year and that is still declining because of contraception provided by the ACA.

69% of all women who obtain abortions have incomes below 2 times the poverty level.

So yes, 4 in 10 do live in poverty and 3 in 10 live barely above the poverty level.

Those abortions are paid for by donations to PP.

60% of PP's funding comes from donations and yes, that is who is paying for those abortions so that PP doesn't "go out of business".

Fast Facts: U.S. Abortion Statistics | Fox News

If, as you say, abortions are paid in full by contributors who donate to PP, why then are subsidies given?
Who pays for PP's exorbitant staff salaries?
"69% of all women who obtain abortions have incomes below 2 times the poverty level." Do you find this statistic to be justifiable?
Where does sex education come into play?

My source was the respected nonpartisan Guttmacher Institute.

Anything that is provided via partisan sources like FauxNoise is less than credible IMO.

To answer your questions;

1. Taxpayer subsidies to PP are for the healthcare services such as papsmears and mammograms. Please note that it is illegal to use taxpayer funds for abortions. None of the taxpayer funds are used for abortions. That money comes exclusively from donations by supporters of PP.

2. Who says that they are "exorbitant"? FauxNoise? How do they reach that conclusion?

3. What needs to be justified about factual data. Go to Guttmacher and look at how they compile their data. It is all open and above board.

About the Guttmacher Institute

4. Sex education tells you about contraceptives. If you can't afford them the education is meaningless.
PP gives out free contraceptive, but many blacks prefer the contraceptive, abortion. We have fewer blacks now than we would have if PP did not exist. Is that your selling point?

"many blacks prefer the contraceptive, abortion"

Why don't you try providing credible non partisan sources to back up your lies first?
Abortion, by the numbers, is a racist institution. That's not to say that all or even most of those who support abortion are racists. Nor does it imply that there are not racists among those who oppose abortion. This statement has nothing to do with agendas or intent. It has everything to do with the simple, undeniable reality that in the United States, abortion kills minority children at more than three times the rate of non-Hispanic, white children.

The Case Against Abortion Abortion and Race
 
I want women and young girls to get the best possible care. Not be sent to organizations and clinics that see them as dollar signs.

Since PP is a non-profit organization that provides free pap smears and mammograms where do your see these imaginary dollar signs?

Free Pap smears and mammograms can be obtained through Medicare and your own OBGYN. You don't need PP for that.

PP doesn't offer mammograms.

They offer breast exams and arrange for mobile mammogram services in areas that don't have mammograms.

Planned Parenthood and Mammograms

The hospitals also have mobile mammogram programs. I know... I work for one that offers them.

Mobile mammograms, mobile blood donation units. Health assesments, free shot clinics, Std, HIV and Hep C screening, pregnancy tests,prenatal classes, Indigent services...Hell... They even have a farmers market on site.
 
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But by all means let's paint all women with the same brush.

Buzz word: paint all women with the same brush.
Over 1.5 million abortions last year were performed, do you think that number consisted entirely of women living in poverty? Think about it for a minute; if that were true, PP would be out of business and those big salaries would be no more.
I'm pro-choice and believe that we each should be held accountable for our decisions and choices that we make; however, it doesn't mean that we should turn a blind eye to what's happening right under our noses.

Where did you get your numbers from?

Induced Abortion in the United States

• In 2011, 1.06 million abortions were performed, down 13% from 1.21 million in 2008.

• Forty-two percent of women obtaining abortions have incomes below 100% of the federal poverty level ($10,830 for a single woman with no children).[3]

• Twenty-seven percent of women obtaining abortions have incomes between 100–199% of the federal poverty level. * [3]​


There are only about 1 million abortions per year and that is still declining because of contraception provided by the ACA.

69% of all women who obtain abortions have incomes below 2 times the poverty level.

So yes, 4 in 10 do live in poverty and 3 in 10 live barely above the poverty level.

Those abortions are paid for by donations to PP.

60% of PP's funding comes from donations and yes, that is who is paying for those abortions so that PP doesn't "go out of business".

Fast Facts: U.S. Abortion Statistics | Fox News

If, as you say, abortions are paid in full by contributors who donate to PP, why then are subsidies given?
Who pays for PP's exorbitant staff salaries?
"69% of all women who obtain abortions have incomes below 2 times the poverty level." Do you find this statistic to be justifiable?
Where does sex education come into play?

My source was the respected nonpartisan Guttmacher Institute.

Anything that is provided via partisan sources like FauxNoise is less than credible IMO.

To answer your questions;

1. Taxpayer subsidies to PP are for the healthcare services such as papsmears and mammograms. Please note that it is illegal to use taxpayer funds for abortions. None of the taxpayer funds are used for abortions. That money comes exclusively from donations by supporters of PP.

2. Who says that they are "exorbitant"? FauxNoise? How do they reach that conclusion?

3. What needs to be justified about factual data. Go to Guttmacher and look at how they compile their data. It is all open and above board.

About the Guttmacher Institute

4. Sex education tells you about contraceptives. If you can't afford them the education is meaningless.

I've been taught to listen to all sides of an argument and then make a decision as to where you stand on the issue.
As I've said previously, I'm pro-choice because I think people should make their own decisions and choices concerning their lives, but they also should be held accountable for their choices and any repercussions that may follow.
"4. Sex education tells you about contraceptives. If you can't afford them the education is meaningless"
Admittedly, I find the #4 statement to be utterly unintelligent because you are limiting sex education to the act of copulation only, and to say that a person unable to afford any type of birth control nullifies sex education is off the charts for me.
PP does not offer mammograms, but they do offer services to women and men who otherwise might not have another source in their community, and they are to be commended for efforts.
Surely, you don't deny that there are depraved people walking among us, who would do anything for a dollar.
Unfortunately, these people work in positions where they are respected for helping the less fortunate, while at the same time, they are helping themselves to amass a fortune from the innocent.
The recent videos showing PP scheming in the shaded areas were upsetting to say the least, and people should not turn a blind eye because it's the politically correct thing to do.

Let me repeat what I heard you saying.

You were duped by the videos into believing that only "depraved people" are working in these positions so that they can take advantage of the less fortunate in order to help "themselves to amass a fortune from the innocent".

As someone who claims to "listen to all sides of an argument" why have you allowed yourself to be deceived by only one side and why are you ignoring the facts on the other side?

Here are some of the facts you might not be aware of;

1. The videos were deliberately and maliciously edited to deceive and inflame people about PP.

2. The videos falsely implied that PP was "profiting" from the illegal sales of baby parts.

3. The videos have not withstood independent scrutiny.

4. No one is amassing a fortune at the expense of the less fortunate.

What does it tell you about the anti-rights zealots who made those videos that they had to "bear false witness" in order to deceive you?

Abortion is an unfortunate fact of life and death. No laws banning abortion are going to stop them happening. They have been around for as long as recorded history and probably longer.

What we have today are standard protocols that must be adhered to. If they are being violated then hold those who violated them accountable.

But to deprive women at and below the poverty level without access to abortion services and other healthcare services is despicable and un-American. To do so on the basis of vile duplicitous canards spewed by anti-rights zealots is downright cowardly.

Their agenda is to impose a theocracy on this nation that would be worse than Sharia.

As an American I will stand against them and for the less fortunate and the unfairly impugned PP employees who have been besmirched by these scummy zealots.

See, I can use inflammatory language too.

Does that leave you confused?

Or do you want to take a step back and just look at the facts instead.

PP provides many services for those who otherwise don't have access to them. The extremist right has an agenda of doing what it can to harm the less fortunate in this nation. Damaging PP is part of that agenda.
 
So your real motive is to deprive Dems of donations and you don't actually care what happens to the fetal tissue at all?

I want women and young girls to get the best possible care. Not be sent to organizations and clinics that see them as dollar signs.

Since PP is a non-profit organization that provides free pap smears and mammograms where do your see these imaginary dollar signs?

Free Pap smears and mammograms can be obtained through Medicare or any other healthcare provider and your own OBGYN. You don't need PP for that.

You do if they are the only provider where you live.

Obama signed up record numbers of low income folks to Medicaid. There are facilities available and they are receiving subsidies to use them. Why should they settle for shoddy PP services again?

Onus is on you to prove that they are "shoddy".
 
I want women and young girls to get the best possible care. Not be sent to organizations and clinics that see them as dollar signs.

Since PP is a non-profit organization that provides free pap smears and mammograms where do your see these imaginary dollar signs?

Free Pap smears and mammograms can be obtained through Medicare and your own OBGYN. You don't need PP for that.

PP doesn't offer mammograms.

They offer breast exams and arrange for mobile mammogram services in areas that don't have mammograms.

Planned Parenthood and Mammograms

The hospitals also have mobile mammogram programs. I know... I work for one that offers them.

So you just show up in a poor neighborhood unannounced and offer free mammograms to any woman who walks by on the street?

Or do you arrange to do so via a clinic like PP?
 
Where did you get your numbers from?

Induced Abortion in the United States

• In 2011, 1.06 million abortions were performed, down 13% from 1.21 million in 2008.

• Forty-two percent of women obtaining abortions have incomes below 100% of the federal poverty level ($10,830 for a single woman with no children).[3]

• Twenty-seven percent of women obtaining abortions have incomes between 100–199% of the federal poverty level. * [3]​


There are only about 1 million abortions per year and that is still declining because of contraception provided by the ACA.

69% of all women who obtain abortions have incomes below 2 times the poverty level.

So yes, 4 in 10 do live in poverty and 3 in 10 live barely above the poverty level.

Those abortions are paid for by donations to PP.

60% of PP's funding comes from donations and yes, that is who is paying for those abortions so that PP doesn't "go out of business".

Fast Facts: U.S. Abortion Statistics | Fox News

If, as you say, abortions are paid in full by contributors who donate to PP, why then are subsidies given?
Who pays for PP's exorbitant staff salaries?
"69% of all women who obtain abortions have incomes below 2 times the poverty level." Do you find this statistic to be justifiable?
Where does sex education come into play?

My source was the respected nonpartisan Guttmacher Institute.

Anything that is provided via partisan sources like FauxNoise is less than credible IMO.

To answer your questions;

1. Taxpayer subsidies to PP are for the healthcare services such as papsmears and mammograms. Please note that it is illegal to use taxpayer funds for abortions. None of the taxpayer funds are used for abortions. That money comes exclusively from donations by supporters of PP.

2. Who says that they are "exorbitant"? FauxNoise? How do they reach that conclusion?

3. What needs to be justified about factual data. Go to Guttmacher and look at how they compile their data. It is all open and above board.

About the Guttmacher Institute

4. Sex education tells you about contraceptives. If you can't afford them the education is meaningless.
PP gives out free contraceptive, but many blacks prefer the contraceptive, abortion. We have fewer blacks now than we would have if PP did not exist. Is that your selling point?

"many blacks prefer the contraceptive, abortion"

Why don't you try providing credible non partisan sources to back up your lies first?
Abortion, by the numbers, is a racist institution. That's not to say that all or even most of those who support abortion are racists. Nor does it imply that there are not racists among those who oppose abortion. This statement has nothing to do with agendas or intent. It has everything to do with the simple, undeniable reality that in the United States, abortion kills minority children at more than three times the rate of non-Hispanic, white children.

The Case Against Abortion Abortion and Race

Correlation does not imply causation.

Racists, on the other hand, make vile untrue statements like these that they can't prove;

"many blacks prefer the contraceptive, abortion"
 
I want women and young girls to get the best possible care. Not be sent to organizations and clinics that see them as dollar signs.

Since PP is a non-profit organization that provides free pap smears and mammograms where do your see these imaginary dollar signs?

Free Pap smears and mammograms can be obtained through Medicare or any other healthcare provider and your own OBGYN. You don't need PP for that.

You do if they are the only provider where you live.

Obama signed up record numbers of low income folks to Medicaid. There are facilities available and they are receiving subsidies to use them. Why should they settle for shoddy PP services again?

Onus is on you to prove that they are "shoddy".

Planned Parenthood gets poor reviews from some of their patients Saynsumthn s Blog

I have heard these complaint from patients myself .

They all say the same thing. They are treated like second class citizens.
 
Buzz word: paint all women with the same brush.
Over 1.5 million abortions last year were performed, do you think that number consisted entirely of women living in poverty? Think about it for a minute; if that were true, PP would be out of business and those big salaries would be no more.
I'm pro-choice and believe that we each should be held accountable for our decisions and choices that we make; however, it doesn't mean that we should turn a blind eye to what's happening right under our noses.

Where did you get your numbers from?

Induced Abortion in the United States

• In 2011, 1.06 million abortions were performed, down 13% from 1.21 million in 2008.

• Forty-two percent of women obtaining abortions have incomes below 100% of the federal poverty level ($10,830 for a single woman with no children).[3]

• Twenty-seven percent of women obtaining abortions have incomes between 100–199% of the federal poverty level. * [3]​


There are only about 1 million abortions per year and that is still declining because of contraception provided by the ACA.

69% of all women who obtain abortions have incomes below 2 times the poverty level.

So yes, 4 in 10 do live in poverty and 3 in 10 live barely above the poverty level.

Those abortions are paid for by donations to PP.

60% of PP's funding comes from donations and yes, that is who is paying for those abortions so that PP doesn't "go out of business".

Fast Facts: U.S. Abortion Statistics | Fox News

If, as you say, abortions are paid in full by contributors who donate to PP, why then are subsidies given?
Who pays for PP's exorbitant staff salaries?
"69% of all women who obtain abortions have incomes below 2 times the poverty level." Do you find this statistic to be justifiable?
Where does sex education come into play?

My source was the respected nonpartisan Guttmacher Institute.

Anything that is provided via partisan sources like FauxNoise is less than credible IMO.

To answer your questions;

1. Taxpayer subsidies to PP are for the healthcare services such as papsmears and mammograms. Please note that it is illegal to use taxpayer funds for abortions. None of the taxpayer funds are used for abortions. That money comes exclusively from donations by supporters of PP.

2. Who says that they are "exorbitant"? FauxNoise? How do they reach that conclusion?

3. What needs to be justified about factual data. Go to Guttmacher and look at how they compile their data. It is all open and above board.

About the Guttmacher Institute

4. Sex education tells you about contraceptives. If you can't afford them the education is meaningless.

I've been taught to listen to all sides of an argument and then make a decision as to where you stand on the issue.
As I've said previously, I'm pro-choice because I think people should make their own decisions and choices concerning their lives, but they also should be held accountable for their choices and any repercussions that may follow.
"4. Sex education tells you about contraceptives. If you can't afford them the education is meaningless"
Admittedly, I find the #4 statement to be utterly unintelligent because you are limiting sex education to the act of copulation only, and to say that a person unable to afford any type of birth control nullifies sex education is off the charts for me.
PP does not offer mammograms, but they do offer services to women and men who otherwise might not have another source in their community, and they are to be commended for efforts.
Surely, you don't deny that there are depraved people walking among us, who would do anything for a dollar.
Unfortunately, these people work in positions where they are respected for helping the less fortunate, while at the same time, they are helping themselves to amass a fortune from the innocent.
The recent videos showing PP scheming in the shaded areas were upsetting to say the least, and people should not turn a blind eye because it's the politically correct thing to do.

Let me repeat what I heard you saying.

You were duped by the videos into believing that only "depraved people" are working in these positions so that they can take advantage of the less fortunate in order to help "themselves to amass a fortune from the innocent".

As someone who claims to "listen to all sides of an argument" why have you allowed yourself to be deceived by only one side and why are you ignoring the facts on the other side?

Here are some of the facts you might not be aware of;

1. The videos were deliberately and maliciously edited to deceive and inflame people about PP.

2. The videos falsely implied that PP was "profiting" from the illegal sales of baby parts.

3. The videos have not withstood independent scrutiny.

4. No one is amassing a fortune at the expense of the less fortunate.

What does it tell you about the anti-rights zealots who made those videos that they had to "bear false witness" in order to deceive you?

Abortion is an unfortunate fact of life and death. No laws banning abortion are going to stop them happening. They have been around for as long as recorded history and probably longer.

What we have today are standard protocols that must be adhered to. If they are being violated then hold those who violated them accountable.

But to deprive women at and below the poverty level without access to abortion services and other healthcare services is despicable and un-American. To do so on the basis of vile duplicitous canards spewed by anti-rights zealots is downright cowardly.

Their agenda is to impose a theocracy on this nation that would be worse than Sharia.

As an American I will stand against them and for the less fortunate and the unfairly impugned PP employees who have been besmirched by these scummy zealots.

See, I can use inflammatory language too.

Does that leave you confused?

Or do you want to take a step back and just look at the facts instead.

PP provides many services for those who otherwise don't have access to them. The extremist right has an agenda of doing what it can to harm the less fortunate in this nation. Damaging PP is part of that agenda.

Links to prove "
1. The videos were deliberately and maliciously edited to deceive and inflame people about PP.

2. The videos falsely implied that PP was "profiting" from the illegal sales of baby parts."
 
Since PP is a non-profit organization that provides free pap smears and mammograms where do your see these imaginary dollar signs?

Free Pap smears and mammograms can be obtained through Medicare or any other healthcare provider and your own OBGYN. You don't need PP for that.

You do if they are the only provider where you live.

Obama signed up record numbers of low income folks to Medicaid. There are facilities available and they are receiving subsidies to use them. Why should they settle for shoddy PP services again?

Onus is on you to prove that they are "shoddy".

Planned Parenthood gets poor reviews from some of their patients Saynsumthn s Blog

I have heard these complaint from patients myself .

They all say the same thing. They are treated like second class citizens.

Blogs and anecdotes are not factual data.

You can find dissatisfied customers anywhere and everywhere.

Of course there will some from PP. They are not angels of mercy and compassion. They are service providers in poor areas.

They probably have to deal with the mentally ill who don't have proper medications, drug addicts and alcoholics, homeless people and the rest.

Yes, I volunteer at an inner city soup kitchen and so I can well believe that there are complaints.

But unless you can provide data that the services are subpar there isn't anything factual to go on.
 
Where did you get your numbers from?

Induced Abortion in the United States

• In 2011, 1.06 million abortions were performed, down 13% from 1.21 million in 2008.

• Forty-two percent of women obtaining abortions have incomes below 100% of the federal poverty level ($10,830 for a single woman with no children).[3]

• Twenty-seven percent of women obtaining abortions have incomes between 100–199% of the federal poverty level. * [3]​


There are only about 1 million abortions per year and that is still declining because of contraception provided by the ACA.

69% of all women who obtain abortions have incomes below 2 times the poverty level.

So yes, 4 in 10 do live in poverty and 3 in 10 live barely above the poverty level.

Those abortions are paid for by donations to PP.

60% of PP's funding comes from donations and yes, that is who is paying for those abortions so that PP doesn't "go out of business".

Fast Facts: U.S. Abortion Statistics | Fox News

If, as you say, abortions are paid in full by contributors who donate to PP, why then are subsidies given?
Who pays for PP's exorbitant staff salaries?
"69% of all women who obtain abortions have incomes below 2 times the poverty level." Do you find this statistic to be justifiable?
Where does sex education come into play?

My source was the respected nonpartisan Guttmacher Institute.

Anything that is provided via partisan sources like FauxNoise is less than credible IMO.

To answer your questions;

1. Taxpayer subsidies to PP are for the healthcare services such as papsmears and mammograms. Please note that it is illegal to use taxpayer funds for abortions. None of the taxpayer funds are used for abortions. That money comes exclusively from donations by supporters of PP.

2. Who says that they are "exorbitant"? FauxNoise? How do they reach that conclusion?

3. What needs to be justified about factual data. Go to Guttmacher and look at how they compile their data. It is all open and above board.

About the Guttmacher Institute

4. Sex education tells you about contraceptives. If you can't afford them the education is meaningless.

I've been taught to listen to all sides of an argument and then make a decision as to where you stand on the issue.
As I've said previously, I'm pro-choice because I think people should make their own decisions and choices concerning their lives, but they also should be held accountable for their choices and any repercussions that may follow.
"4. Sex education tells you about contraceptives. If you can't afford them the education is meaningless"
Admittedly, I find the #4 statement to be utterly unintelligent because you are limiting sex education to the act of copulation only, and to say that a person unable to afford any type of birth control nullifies sex education is off the charts for me.
PP does not offer mammograms, but they do offer services to women and men who otherwise might not have another source in their community, and they are to be commended for efforts.
Surely, you don't deny that there are depraved people walking among us, who would do anything for a dollar.
Unfortunately, these people work in positions where they are respected for helping the less fortunate, while at the same time, they are helping themselves to amass a fortune from the innocent.
The recent videos showing PP scheming in the shaded areas were upsetting to say the least, and people should not turn a blind eye because it's the politically correct thing to do.

Let me repeat what I heard you saying.

You were duped by the videos into believing that only "depraved people" are working in these positions so that they can take advantage of the less fortunate in order to help "themselves to amass a fortune from the innocent".

As someone who claims to "listen to all sides of an argument" why have you allowed yourself to be deceived by only one side and why are you ignoring the facts on the other side?

Here are some of the facts you might not be aware of;

1. The videos were deliberately and maliciously edited to deceive and inflame people about PP.

2. The videos falsely implied that PP was "profiting" from the illegal sales of baby parts.

3. The videos have not withstood independent scrutiny.

4. No one is amassing a fortune at the expense of the less fortunate.

What does it tell you about the anti-rights zealots who made those videos that they had to "bear false witness" in order to deceive you?

Abortion is an unfortunate fact of life and death. No laws banning abortion are going to stop them happening. They have been around for as long as recorded history and probably longer.

What we have today are standard protocols that must be adhered to. If they are being violated then hold those who violated them accountable.

But to deprive women at and below the poverty level without access to abortion services and other healthcare services is despicable and un-American. To do so on the basis of vile duplicitous canards spewed by anti-rights zealots is downright cowardly.

Their agenda is to impose a theocracy on this nation that would be worse than Sharia.

As an American I will stand against them and for the less fortunate and the unfairly impugned PP employees who have been besmirched by these scummy zealots.

See, I can use inflammatory language too.

Does that leave you confused?

Or do you want to take a step back and just look at the facts instead.

PP provides many services for those who otherwise don't have access to them. The extremist right has an agenda of doing what it can to harm the less fortunate in this nation. Damaging PP is part of that agenda.

Links to prove "
1. The videos were deliberately and maliciously edited to deceive and inflame people about PP.

2. The videos falsely implied that PP was "profiting" from the illegal sales of baby parts."

That is in progress and the full expose will be posted when it is finished. I will mention you so you will receive the notification when it is ready.
 
Fast Facts: U.S. Abortion Statistics | Fox News

If, as you say, abortions are paid in full by contributors who donate to PP, why then are subsidies given?
Who pays for PP's exorbitant staff salaries?
"69% of all women who obtain abortions have incomes below 2 times the poverty level." Do you find this statistic to be justifiable?
Where does sex education come into play?

My source was the respected nonpartisan Guttmacher Institute.

Anything that is provided via partisan sources like FauxNoise is less than credible IMO.

To answer your questions;

1. Taxpayer subsidies to PP are for the healthcare services such as papsmears and mammograms. Please note that it is illegal to use taxpayer funds for abortions. None of the taxpayer funds are used for abortions. That money comes exclusively from donations by supporters of PP.

2. Who says that they are "exorbitant"? FauxNoise? How do they reach that conclusion?

3. What needs to be justified about factual data. Go to Guttmacher and look at how they compile their data. It is all open and above board.

About the Guttmacher Institute

4. Sex education tells you about contraceptives. If you can't afford them the education is meaningless.

I've been taught to listen to all sides of an argument and then make a decision as to where you stand on the issue.
As I've said previously, I'm pro-choice because I think people should make their own decisions and choices concerning their lives, but they also should be held accountable for their choices and any repercussions that may follow.
"4. Sex education tells you about contraceptives. If you can't afford them the education is meaningless"
Admittedly, I find the #4 statement to be utterly unintelligent because you are limiting sex education to the act of copulation only, and to say that a person unable to afford any type of birth control nullifies sex education is off the charts for me.
PP does not offer mammograms, but they do offer services to women and men who otherwise might not have another source in their community, and they are to be commended for efforts.
Surely, you don't deny that there are depraved people walking among us, who would do anything for a dollar.
Unfortunately, these people work in positions where they are respected for helping the less fortunate, while at the same time, they are helping themselves to amass a fortune from the innocent.
The recent videos showing PP scheming in the shaded areas were upsetting to say the least, and people should not turn a blind eye because it's the politically correct thing to do.

Let me repeat what I heard you saying.

You were duped by the videos into believing that only "depraved people" are working in these positions so that they can take advantage of the less fortunate in order to help "themselves to amass a fortune from the innocent".

As someone who claims to "listen to all sides of an argument" why have you allowed yourself to be deceived by only one side and why are you ignoring the facts on the other side?

Here are some of the facts you might not be aware of;

1. The videos were deliberately and maliciously edited to deceive and inflame people about PP.

2. The videos falsely implied that PP was "profiting" from the illegal sales of baby parts.

3. The videos have not withstood independent scrutiny.

4. No one is amassing a fortune at the expense of the less fortunate.

What does it tell you about the anti-rights zealots who made those videos that they had to "bear false witness" in order to deceive you?

Abortion is an unfortunate fact of life and death. No laws banning abortion are going to stop them happening. They have been around for as long as recorded history and probably longer.

What we have today are standard protocols that must be adhered to. If they are being violated then hold those who violated them accountable.

But to deprive women at and below the poverty level without access to abortion services and other healthcare services is despicable and un-American. To do so on the basis of vile duplicitous canards spewed by anti-rights zealots is downright cowardly.

Their agenda is to impose a theocracy on this nation that would be worse than Sharia.

As an American I will stand against them and for the less fortunate and the unfairly impugned PP employees who have been besmirched by these scummy zealots.

See, I can use inflammatory language too.

Does that leave you confused?

Or do you want to take a step back and just look at the facts instead.

PP provides many services for those who otherwise don't have access to them. The extremist right has an agenda of doing what it can to harm the less fortunate in this nation. Damaging PP is part of that agenda.

Links to prove "
1. The videos were deliberately and maliciously edited to deceive and inflame people about PP.

2. The videos falsely implied that PP was "profiting" from the illegal sales of baby parts."

That is in progress and the full expose will be posted when it is finished. I will mention you so you will receive the notification when it is ready.

Ah, I see. You were talking out of you ass again. No problem.
 
Since PP is a non-profit organization that provides free pap smears and mammograms where do your see these imaginary dollar signs?

Free Pap smears and mammograms can be obtained through Medicare and your own OBGYN. You don't need PP for that.

PP doesn't offer mammograms.

They offer breast exams and arrange for mobile mammogram services in areas that don't have mammograms.

Planned Parenthood and Mammograms

The hospitals also have mobile mammogram programs. I know... I work for one that offers them.

So you just show up in a poor neighborhood unannounced and offer free mammograms to any woman who walks by on the street?

Or do you arrange to do so via a clinic like PP?

I am told that PP does not do mammograms, do you have evidence that they do?
 
My source was the respected nonpartisan Guttmacher Institute.

Anything that is provided via partisan sources like FauxNoise is less than credible IMO.

To answer your questions;

1. Taxpayer subsidies to PP are for the healthcare services such as papsmears and mammograms. Please note that it is illegal to use taxpayer funds for abortions. None of the taxpayer funds are used for abortions. That money comes exclusively from donations by supporters of PP.

2. Who says that they are "exorbitant"? FauxNoise? How do they reach that conclusion?

3. What needs to be justified about factual data. Go to Guttmacher and look at how they compile their data. It is all open and above board.

About the Guttmacher Institute

4. Sex education tells you about contraceptives. If you can't afford them the education is meaningless.

I've been taught to listen to all sides of an argument and then make a decision as to where you stand on the issue.
As I've said previously, I'm pro-choice because I think people should make their own decisions and choices concerning their lives, but they also should be held accountable for their choices and any repercussions that may follow.
"4. Sex education tells you about contraceptives. If you can't afford them the education is meaningless"
Admittedly, I find the #4 statement to be utterly unintelligent because you are limiting sex education to the act of copulation only, and to say that a person unable to afford any type of birth control nullifies sex education is off the charts for me.
PP does not offer mammograms, but they do offer services to women and men who otherwise might not have another source in their community, and they are to be commended for efforts.
Surely, you don't deny that there are depraved people walking among us, who would do anything for a dollar.
Unfortunately, these people work in positions where they are respected for helping the less fortunate, while at the same time, they are helping themselves to amass a fortune from the innocent.
The recent videos showing PP scheming in the shaded areas were upsetting to say the least, and people should not turn a blind eye because it's the politically correct thing to do.

Let me repeat what I heard you saying.

You were duped by the videos into believing that only "depraved people" are working in these positions so that they can take advantage of the less fortunate in order to help "themselves to amass a fortune from the innocent".

As someone who claims to "listen to all sides of an argument" why have you allowed yourself to be deceived by only one side and why are you ignoring the facts on the other side?

Here are some of the facts you might not be aware of;

1. The videos were deliberately and maliciously edited to deceive and inflame people about PP.

2. The videos falsely implied that PP was "profiting" from the illegal sales of baby parts.

3. The videos have not withstood independent scrutiny.

4. No one is amassing a fortune at the expense of the less fortunate.

What does it tell you about the anti-rights zealots who made those videos that they had to "bear false witness" in order to deceive you?

Abortion is an unfortunate fact of life and death. No laws banning abortion are going to stop them happening. They have been around for as long as recorded history and probably longer.

What we have today are standard protocols that must be adhered to. If they are being violated then hold those who violated them accountable.

But to deprive women at and below the poverty level without access to abortion services and other healthcare services is despicable and un-American. To do so on the basis of vile duplicitous canards spewed by anti-rights zealots is downright cowardly.

Their agenda is to impose a theocracy on this nation that would be worse than Sharia.

As an American I will stand against them and for the less fortunate and the unfairly impugned PP employees who have been besmirched by these scummy zealots.

See, I can use inflammatory language too.

Does that leave you confused?

Or do you want to take a step back and just look at the facts instead.

PP provides many services for those who otherwise don't have access to them. The extremist right has an agenda of doing what it can to harm the less fortunate in this nation. Damaging PP is part of that agenda.

Links to prove "
1. The videos were deliberately and maliciously edited to deceive and inflame people about PP.

2. The videos falsely implied that PP was "profiting" from the illegal sales of baby parts."

That is in progress and the full expose will be posted when it is finished. I will mention you so you will receive the notification when it is ready.

Ah, I see. You were talking out of you ass again. No problem.

Ironic coming from the racist who can't support her lies about blacks using abortion as a contraceptive.
 

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