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Sons of men.
'We' crucified a LOT of Monkeys. Especially if 'crucified' is defined in it's loosest terms.
Except the Children of Israel saw the Pillar of Cloud by day and the Fire of God by night. They saw the miracles. They heard the voice of God and they still disobeyed and fell away. Many of them died in the wilderness. They had everything including the most perfect lawgiver and still failed so when people want to find God on their own merit, these are the footsteps you are following in and the children of Israel who died in the wilderness will be many people's examples.
According to the ancient stories.
It's interesting how thousands of years later those stories can still roll off a keyboard like they were established fact.
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There's just that pesky issue of the golden plates thing.First Deity to defend His Holy Book in the here and now, gets my worship.
Jus' sayin'
Read the Book of Mormon. It provides a way for you to learn for yourself whether it's true. The Lord will prove it to you. Take the challenge, what do you have to lose?
Why is fraud and misrepresentation such a consistent theme surrounding tales of the gods and the men who invent these gods?
First Deity to defend His Holy Book in the here and now, gets my worship.
Jus' sayin'
Read the Book of Mormon. It provides a way for you to learn for yourself whether it's true. The Lord will prove it to you. Take the challenge, what do you have to lose?
I can honestly say that I've not read the entire Book of Mormon, but I know it's history and basic story.
Thanks, but pass.
Shame The Devil and tell the truth I'd pass on Mormonism simply for it's association with The God of Abraham, as described in The Torah, The New Testament and The Koran, but I do know a bit about Joseph Smith's history and his writings and thoughts.
There's just that pesky issue of the golden plates thing.Read the Book of Mormon. It provides a way for you to learn for yourself whether it's true. The Lord will prove it to you. Take the challenge, what do you have to lose?
Why is fraud and misrepresentation such a consistent theme surrounding tales of the gods and the men who invent these gods?
You mean the plates which were seen by a dozen people who upheld their witness until death despite having every incentive to renounce their witness? Those plates?
There's just that pesky issue of the golden plates thing.
Why is fraud and misrepresentation such a consistent theme surrounding tales of the gods and the men who invent these gods?
You mean the plates which were seen by a dozen people who upheld their witness until death despite having every incentive to renounce their witness? Those plates?
You mean the golden plates a few people claimed to seen as a few people claim to have seen Bigfoot and Nessie?
Those plates, the ones that don't exist?
You mean the plates which were seen by a dozen people who upheld their witness until death despite having every incentive to renounce their witness? Those plates?
You mean the golden plates a few people claimed to seen as a few people claim to have seen Bigfoot and Nessie?
Those plates, the ones that don't exist?
People have been murdered for claiming to have seen Bigfoot and Nessie?
Who knew?
You mean the golden plates a few people claimed to seen as a few people claim to have seen Bigfoot and Nessie?
Those plates, the ones that don't exist?
People have been murdered for claiming to have seen Bigfoot and Nessie?
Who knew?
People have falsified claims to Bigfoot and Nessie as people have falsified claims to other objects, events and circumstances and for many reasons.
Golden plates, Books of the Dead, contact with angels, etc. How curious that there is so often a resounding lack of evidence for these claims.
Who knew? Well, we know because fraud feeds on fear and superstition.
According to the ancient stories.
It's interesting how thousands of years later those stories can still roll off a keyboard like they were established fact.
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From a believer's point of view ... they are established fact. I believe the historical record of Jesus Christ is 100% true and accurate. There's not a soul on earth who can prove me wrong.
So?
That opinion and $4 will get you a hot and tasty beverage at Starbuck$. Doesn't mean it happened.
I say that The New Testament is bullshit that was written 70 years after the events by educated people with religious persecution and a political ax to grind, and there's not a soul on earth who can prove me wrong.
Whats next?War?
From a believer's point of view ... they are established fact. I believe the historical record of Jesus Christ is 100% true and accurate. There's not a soul on earth who can prove me wrong.
First Deity to defend His Holy Book in the here and now, gets my worship.
Jus' sayin'
Read the Book of Mormon. It provides a way for you to learn for yourself whether it's true. The Lord will prove it to you. Take the challenge, what do you have to lose?
First Deity to defend His Holy Book in the here and now, gets my worship.
Jus' sayin'
From a believer's point of view ... they are established fact. I believe the historical record of Jesus Christ is 100% true and accurate. There's not a soul on earth who can prove me wrong.
Yes there is. Because there is NO HISTORICAL RECORD of Jesus. Not one single verifiable fact. Get yourself some education what historical records are.
Third party fantasy stories ar not.
There are actually courtyard protocols of disciples who were sued for violating jewish law, preaching against some of their religious orders like kosher food and things like that.
As far as I rememberit it was Paulus and one other.
This was after the alledged crucification of Jesus, but his name was not mentioned one time in the whole protocols. They did not refer to Jesus. So, what the hell were this disciples doing if they were not preaching the realm of their resurrected lord?
You can dig as deep as you like, you will not in hundred years find any historical record of Jesus. Zero. Nothing. All you find in the bible is at the earliest dated around 70 years A.D., interestingly this is exact the time where the Romans wiped out the jewish community in Palestine and destroyed THE temple. And 70 A.D. no eyewitness could be alive by any means.
From a believer's point of view ... they are established fact. I believe the historical record of Jesus Christ is 100% true and accurate. There's not a soul on earth who can prove me wrong.
Yes there is. Because there is NO HISTORICAL RECORD of Jesus. Not one single verifiable fact. Get yourself some education what historical records are.
Third party fantasy stories ar not.
There are actually courtyard protocols of disciples who were sued for violating jewish law, preaching against some of their religious orders like kosher food and things like that.
As far as I rememberit it was Paulus and one other.
This was after the alledged crucification of Jesus, but his name was not mentioned one time in the whole protocols. They did not refer to Jesus. So, what the hell were this disciples doing if they were not preaching the realm of their resurrected lord?
You can dig as deep as you like, you will not in hundred years find any historical record of Jesus. Zero. Nothing. All you find in the bible is at the earliest dated around 70 years A.D., interestingly this is exact the time where the Romans wiped out the jewish community in Palestine and destroyed THE temple. And 70 A.D. no eyewitness could be alive by any means.
We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.
Plato
Except the Children of Israel saw the Pillar of Cloud by day and the Fire of God by night. They saw the miracles. They heard the voice of God and they still disobeyed and fell away. Many of them died in the wilderness. They had everything including the most perfect lawgiver and still failed so when people want to find God on their own merit, these are the footsteps you are following in and the children of Israel who died in the wilderness will be many people's examples.
According to the ancient stories.
It's interesting how thousands of years later those stories can still roll off a keyboard like they were established fact.
`
The Truth is like that
First Deity to defend His Holy Book in the here and now, gets my worship.
Jus' sayin'
Chirst's church is the "body of Christ." The body of Christ defends His Word. Start worshiping.
According to the ancient stories.
It's interesting how thousands of years later those stories can still roll off a keyboard like they were established fact.
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The Truth is like that
What TRUTH?!?
There's no truth in the ancient stories, just opinions. When it comes to the questions of origins and after-life, OPINIONS IS ALL THERE IS. Death remains a one-way ticket punched only once.
You want truth? Here's the historic truth - The New Testament was based on oral traditions and STORIES, written at least 40 years after the death of Jesus of Nazareth, and written by people under political and religious duress at the time.
https://www.google.com/search?q=new...&sqi=2&ved=0CCUQsAQ&biw=1470&bih=775#imgdii=_
http://biblehub.com/timeline/new.htm
I simply do not believe that Jesus walked out of his tomb. No matter what kind of 'visions' Saul/Paul had about the events some 40+ years later.
Fool me once...
