GOP Big Government wants to probe women's Vagina

[Sallow]

Abortion is a choice. This isn't.

 

[teapartysamurai]

Abortion is a choice. This isn't.

No you mean you don't want it to be an INFORMED CHOICE.

You don't want those women to SEE THEIR KID!

 

[teapartysamurai]

Any of you idiots ever had forceps put up ya for a OBGYN visit.

Let me tell you, they are NOT comfortable and you have to do those at least once a year!

 

[Sallow]

Abortion is a choice. This isn't.

No you mean you don't want it to be an INFORMED CHOICE.

You don't want those women to SEE THEIR KID!

Again..this is a forced, unnecessary procedure which involves inserting a device into a woman's vagina.

You small government types sure want your small governments to have a heck of alot of power over people.

 

[peach174]

Abortion is a choice. This isn't.

No you mean you don't want it to be an INFORMED CHOICE.

You don't want those women to SEE THEIR KID!

Yep !
That is exactly what this is about.
Libs have always fought against a woman and especially teens being fully informed about the little human that they are about to kill.

It's much less intrusive than when they use that instrument called a speculum for pap smears.

 

[teapartysamurai]

Abortion is a choice. This isn't.

No you mean you don't want it to be an INFORMED CHOICE.

You don't want those women to SEE THEIR KID!

Again..this is a forced, unnecessary procedure which involves inserting a device into a woman's vagina.

You small government types sure want your small governments to have a heck of alot of power over people.

And there isn't any power being forced on the kid being killed that you DON'T WANT THE MOTHER TO SEE BEFORE SHE KILLS 'EM?

 

[Chris]

This bill will require many women in Virginia to undergo vaginal penetration with an ultrasound probe against their consent in order to exercise their constitutional right to an abortion, even for nonsurgical, noninvasive, pharmaceutical abortions. This kind of government intrusion shocks the conscience and demonstrates the disturbing lengths Republican legislators will go to prevent women from controlling their own reproductive destiny.

I offered an amendment that would have protected women from the unwanted vaginal penetration required by this bill. House Republicans rejected that amendment. The next time Virginia Republicans speak the words ‘government intrusion’ I hope voters will remember this vote and hold them accountable for their hypocrisy.

---- Del. David Englin

 

[Chris]

50% of American women will have an unwanted pregnancy in their lifetime. The Republicans want the government to force these women to bring their pregnancy to term. Unwanted children are MUCH more likely to be abused. Therefore, Republicans are pro child abuse.

And don't tell me an embryo is a human being. If it was, the thousands of frozen embryos in fertility labs in this country would have the right to own guns.

 

[blastoff]

I volunteer for the Czar job if it's still open!

 

[peach174]

Abortion is a choice. This isn't.

No you mean you don't want it to be an INFORMED CHOICE.

You don't want those women to SEE THEIR KID!

Again..this is a forced, unnecessary procedure which involves inserting a device into a woman's vagina.

You small government types sure want your small governments to have a heck of alot of power over people.

What do you think is inserted into a vagina during an abortion?
And the horrible way a little life is taken?

The abortionist first paralyzes the cervix (womb opening). He then inserts a hollow plastic tube with a knife-like tip into the uterus. The tube is connected to a powerful pump with a suction force 29 times more powerful than a home vacuum cleaner. The procedure tears the baby's body into pieces and the hose frequently jerks as pieces of the baby become lodged. The placenta is then cut from the inner wall of the uterus and the scraps are sucked out into a bottle.

This is what you are aborting.

The Case Against Abortion: Abortion Pictures

How terrible to be fully informed.

 

[Unknown_Soldier]

50% of American women will have an unwanted pregnancy in their lifetime. The Republicans want the government to force these women to bring their pregnancy to term. Unwanted children are MUCH more likely to be abused. Therefore, Republicans are pro child abuse.

And don't tell me an embryo is a human being. If it was, the thousands of frozen embryos in fertility labs in this country would have the right to own guns.

First of all, I could be wrong, but isn't there a few ways a woman can prevent an unwanted pregnancy from happening in the first place??

Second of all, how do you know those embyos don't in fact have a right to own guns? I can list about 50 people who I know personally that don't own guns but that doesn't mean they don't have a right to do so, if they wished to exercise that right.

 

[Harry Dresden]

50% of American women will have an unwanted pregnancy in their lifetime. The Republicans want the government to force these women to bring their pregnancy to term. Unwanted children are MUCH more likely to be abused. Therefore, Republicans are pro child abuse.

And don't tell me an embryo is a human being. If it was, the thousands of frozen embryos in fertility labs in this country would have the right to own guns.

you were an Embryo once Chris....just sayin....

 

[auditor0007]

No contraception either and freaky creepy Santorum voted to penalize states where abortions were done.

Bottom line - No sex.

Did they stop making condoms and producing birth control while I was eating dinner a few minutes ago?

No, but those evil repubs are going to try and outlaw those, too!

Santorum would be happy about that.

 

[Provocateur]

This bill will require many women in Virginia to undergo vaginal penetration with an ultrasound probe against their consent in order to exercise their constitutional right to an abortion, even for nonsurgical, noninvasive, pharmaceutical abortions. This kind of government intrusion shocks the conscience and demonstrates the disturbing lengths Republican legislators will go to prevent women from controlling their own reproductive destiny.

I offered an amendment that would have protected women from the unwanted vaginal penetration required by this bill. House Republicans rejected that amendment. The next time Virginia Republicans speak the words ‘government intrusion’ I hope voters will remember this vote and hold them accountable for their hypocrisy.

---- Del. David Englin

You are quoting a progressive as your basis as fact? (His mission statement: “I will continue to fight for progressive policies grounded in social justice that give every member of our community...)

What he says is false. I posted the bill just a few posts back.

He's a liar.



All liberals are liars.

 

[Provocateur]

Abortion is a choice. This isn't.

No you mean you don't want it to be an INFORMED CHOICE.

You don't want those women to SEE THEIR KID!

Again..this is a forced, unnecessary procedure which involves inserting a device into a woman's vagina.

You small government types sure want your small governments to have a heck of alot of power over people.

Another liberal that would like to run with a talking point, completely based on a lie, to make a point.

Way to be a hack.

 

[Provocateur]

Here, I'll post it again for the liars.

The qualified medical professional performing fetal ultrasound imaging pursuant to subsection B shall determine whether a fetal ultrasound image can be obtained without the use of a transvaginal ultrasound or other ultrasound method requiring vaginal penetration. The qualified medical professional performing fetal ultrasound imaging pursuant to subsection B shall not perform an ultrasound requiring vaginal penetration without the prior written consent of the pregnant woman. If the qualified medical professional performing the fetal ultrasound imaging pursuant to subsection B determines that a fetal ultrasound image can only be obtained with an ultrasound requiring vaginal penetration and the pregnant woman declines to provide written consent to an ultrasound requiring vaginal penetration, then the provisions of this section related to performance of fetal ultrasound imaging shall not apply and fetal ultrasound imaging for the purpose of determining fetal age shall not be required.

You guys are fucking idiots and/or liars.


Show some integrity.

 

[Provocateur]

Higher order thinking skills are hard.


This bill requires that imaging be made available. The woman has the choice whether or not to accept it.

It places a mandate on the abortion provider, not the woman.

 

[peach174]

How about actually reading the Bill.
It is not forced.

A. Before performing any abortion or inducing any miscarriage or terminating a pregnancy as provided in §§ 18.2-72, 18.2-73 or § 18.2-74, the physician shall obtain the informed written consent of the pregnant woman. However, if the woman has been adjudicated incapacitated by any court of competent jurisdiction or if the physician knows or has good reason to believe that such woman is incapacitated as adjudicated by a court of competent jurisdiction, then only after permission is given in writing by a parent, guardian, committee, or other person standing in loco parentis to the woman, may the physician perform the abortion or otherwise terminate

Bill Tracking - 2012 session > Legislation

 

[Harry Dresden]

All liberals are liars.

really?.....every single one?......

 

[ABikerSailor]

We get it. This is why Stephanopolus peppered Romney with the "can states ban birth control."

This is why Obama is trying to force free birth control on Catholic Hospitals and how to force insurance companies to pay for it.

You want to convince people with the fictitious fear that Republicans want to ban birth control.

So, here's the thing.

Give me ONE EXAMPLE of a Republican Gov, President, Congressman, etc, EVER banning birth control and you will have your argument.

Until then, this is all just BS fear mongering by a desperate president who can't run on his own record, because his own record SUCKS.

So, bring it. Give us the examples.

My guess is, there will stuipid quotes of Santorum from six years ago. There will be NO EXAMPLES OF Republicans trying to ban birth control. There will be total silence. OR there will be just the usual sputtering from outraged liberals because no one should ever dare pin them down on their total preposterous lies.

Bring it libs. I'm waiting. I know I won't get a straight answer.

PS, ABORTION IS NOT BIRTH CONTROL. That's infanticide. There are plenty of methods of birth control that prevents conception.

You know why you libs have changed the subject to birth control. You have lost the argument on abortion. Most people are against it now.

You started the subject, so don't change it, because someone's pinned you down on it. BIRTH CONTROL. Give us the examples.

I'm waiting, but I won't hold my breathe.

Here ya go Teabagger With the Sumo Thighs........

Because the amendment would define a fertilized egg as a person with full legal rights, it could have an impact on a woman's ability to get the morning-after pill or birth control pills that destroy fertilized eggs.

It could make in vitro fertilization treatments more difficult because it could become illegal to dispose of unused fertilized eggs. This could lead to a nationwide debate about women's rights and abortion while setting up a possible challenge to the landmark Roe v. Wade case, which makes abortion legal.

The ballot initiative is part of a national campaign brought by Personhood USA. The Colorado-based group describes itself as a nonprofit Christian ministry that "serves the pro-life community by assisting local groups to initiate citizen, legislative, and political action focusing on the ultimate goal of the pro-life movement: personhood rights for all innocent humans."

Mississippi amendment on 'personhood' divides Christians

The idea for personhood was born during Roe v. Wade's oral arguments, when Justice Potter Stewart said, "If it were established that an unborn fetus is a person, you would have an impossible case here." Now, Personhood USA is trying to use the amendment to establish "personhood" as a direct challenge to the Roe v. Wade ruling.

Mississippi voting on 'personhood' amendment - CNN

Under this legislation, many forms of birth control would be banned.