GOP Quagmire

IsaacNewton

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With the GOP unable to stop the guy who will be there presidential candidate they are beside themselves on what to do about him. They've brought out Mitt Romney and other 'moderates' in the party to try to steer people away from voting for Trump but Trump's followers seem to be in a state of mental frenzy that they can't resist. He can do anything and they cheer louder. The traditionalists in the GOP cannot control the rather small but radical element in their group that insist on burning down the 'normal' and replacing it with their own hard-right wing agenda and world view. They take great glee in destroying all that came before them and don't want anyone telling them what to do, especially the GOP regulars and ideological standard bearers.

Isn't this exactly what we see with the radicals in Islam? They've hijacked the entire religion, don't want anyone to tell them what to do, take great glee in burning down all that came before them, and will not listen to any other ideology. Especially the moderates in their group.

Have a moment of clarity conservatives. The world is larger than you think and you can now understand why an entire religion is not to blame for the actions of a minority in that religion. 25,000 nutjobs does not represent 1.3 billion people.

Any more than the Trump cohort represents clear minded conservatism.
 
With the GOP unable to stop the guy who will be there presidential candidate they are beside themselves on what to do about him. They've brought out Mitt Romney and other 'moderates' in the party to try to steer people away from voting for Trump but Trump's followers seem to be in a state of mental frenzy that they can't resist. He can do anything and they cheer louder. The traditionalists in the GOP cannot control the rather small but radical element in their group that insist on burning down the 'normal' and replacing it with their own hard-right wing agenda and world view. They take great glee in destroying all that came before them and don't want anyone telling them what to do, especially the GOP regulars and ideological standard bearers.

Isn't this exactly what we see with the radicals in Islam? They've hijacked the entire religion, don't want anyone to tell them what to do, take great glee in burning down all that came before them, and will not listen to any other ideology. Especially the moderates in their group.

Have a moment of clarity conservatives. The world is larger than you think and you can now understand why an entire religion is not to blame for the actions of a minority in that religion. 25,000 nutjobs does not represent 1.3 billion people.

Any more than the Trump cohort represents clear minded conservatism.

With the Dems running with the Hildebeast the pot is calling the kettle black. Trump is no prize and Hillary is right down there at the bottom with him so we are all screwed.
 
They creates this "government baaaad" attitude . Now it's biting them in the ass.
 
They creates this "government baaaad" attitude . Now it's biting them in the ass.


Not really. Trump is not running on a small government platform, his prime issues are Immigration and Trade.
 
They creates this "government baaaad" attitude . Now it's biting them in the ass.


Not really. Trump is not running on a small government platform, his prime issues are Immigration and Trade.

Yeah, and he's gonna build a wall that Mexico will never pay for, and in being tough on China, he's going to continue to have his and his families clothing line made there.
 
They creates this "government baaaad" attitude . Now it's biting them in the ass.


Not really. Trump is not running on a small government platform, his prime issues are Immigration and Trade.

Yeah, and he's gonna build a wall that Mexico will never pay for, and in being tough on China, he's going to continue to have his and his families clothing line made there.


What do you base that assumption on?
 
They creates this "government baaaad" attitude . Now it's biting them in the ass.


Not really. Trump is not running on a small government platform, his prime issues are Immigration and Trade.

Yeah, and he's gonna build a wall that Mexico will never pay for, and in being tough on China, he's going to continue to have his and his families clothing line made there.


What do you base that assumption on?

Because none of you can explain how he'll force Mexico to pay for a wall it doesn't want, and because the factories in Mexico and China are churning out Trump products nonstop even as I write this.
 
I think the point of the OP has been lost here.


It hasn't been lost. It's been seriously addressed.

Sorry, did you just want a lefty circle jerk, where other libs just agreed with whatever you said regardless of whether it has any connection to reality?
 
They creates this "government baaaad" attitude . Now it's biting them in the ass.


Not really. Trump is not running on a small government platform, his prime issues are Immigration and Trade.

Yeah, and he's gonna build a wall that Mexico will never pay for, and in being tough on China, he's going to continue to have his and his families clothing line made there.


What do you base that assumption on?

Because none of you can explain how he'll force Mexico to pay for a wall it doesn't want, and because the factories in Mexico and China are churning out Trump products nonstop even as I write this.

There has been plenty of discussion of how Trump might get the Mexicans to pay for it.

And your concern about his clothing line is noted. Trump the businessman played by the crappy rules other people wrote.

That is not reason to believe that Trump the President might not change those rules to benefit the people that put him in office.

And who will be the people who decide whether or not he gets a second term.
 
They creates this "government baaaad" attitude . Now it's biting them in the ass.


Not really. Trump is not running on a small government platform, his prime issues are Immigration and Trade.

Yeah, and he's gonna build a wall that Mexico will never pay for, and in being tough on China, he's going to continue to have his and his families clothing line made there.


What do you base that assumption on?

Because none of you can explain how he'll force Mexico to pay for a wall it doesn't want, and because the factories in Mexico and China are churning out Trump products nonstop even as I write this.

Keep our over 1/2 BILLION in FOREIGN AID per year to Mexico, Tax money transfers from America to Mexico after all,AND CONFISCATE all money sent back by illegals which amounts to....

Illegal Aliens Sent $21.6 Billion in Cash Back to Mexico in ...
toprightnews.com/mexico-receives-21-6-billion-in-cash-sent-back-by-u-...
Feb 7, 2014 - Fly Away: Illegal aliens taking U.S. jobs sent tens of billions out of the country, draining the U.S. economy. ... the fourth quarter of last year, compared to the same period in 2012, ... All this as employment numbers in the U.S. once again came in far .... They take our Jobs Illegally and send money to Mexico ?
 
They creates this "government baaaad" attitude . Now it's biting them in the ass.


Not really. Trump is not running on a small government platform, his prime issues are Immigration and Trade.

Yeah, and he's gonna build a wall that Mexico will never pay for, and in being tough on China, he's going to continue to have his and his families clothing line made there.


What do you base that assumption on?

Because none of you can explain how he'll force Mexico to pay for a wall it doesn't want, and because the factories in Mexico and China are churning out Trump products nonstop even as I write this.

There has been plenty of discussion of how Trump might get the Mexicans to pay for it.

And your concern about his clothing line is noted. Trump the businessman played by the crappy rules other people wrote.

That is not reason to believe that Trump the President might not change those rules to benefit the people that put him in office.

And who will be the people who decide whether or not he gets a second term.

Anything that Trump has stated he would do to make Mexico pay for the wall is something that has to be done by Congress, not just him, and McConnell has ALREADY said that the GOP is going to drop Trump like a hot rock if he's the nominee.

And, if Trump REALLY cared about this country, he would have had his clothing lines made here in the USA (yes, there are clothing manufacturers here in the USA), but instead, he chose to cut costs and ship the jobs over to China.

Nope, sorry, but Trump doesn't have any clue as to how to get things done.
 
I think the point of the OP has been lost here.
It's not republican politicians that are failing to stop Trump. It's the voters that are lifting him up. Trump is winning by huge numbers in many of these primaries. The people are speaking. They are tired of the same ol do-nothing establishment.
 
With the GOP unable to stop the guy who will be there presidential candidate they are beside themselves on what to do about him. They've brought out Mitt Romney and other 'moderates' in the party to try to steer people away from voting for Trump but Trump's followers seem to be in a state of mental frenzy that they can't resist. He can do anything and they cheer louder. The traditionalists in the GOP cannot control the rather small but radical element in their group that insist on burning down the 'normal' and replacing it with their own hard-right wing agenda and world view. They take great glee in destroying all that came before them and don't want anyone telling them what to do, especially the GOP regulars and ideological standard bearers.

Isn't this exactly what we see with the radicals in Islam? They've hijacked the entire religion, don't want anyone to tell them what to do, take great glee in burning down all that came before them, and will not listen to any other ideology. Especially the moderates in their group.

Have a moment of clarity conservatives. The world is larger than you think and you can now understand why an entire religion is not to blame for the actions of a minority in that religion. 25,000 nutjobs does not represent 1.3 billion people.

Any more than the Trump cohort represents clear minded conservatism.
What's worse...a quagmire or a shit hole?
 
Not really. Trump is not running on a small government platform, his prime issues are Immigration and Trade.

Yeah, and he's gonna build a wall that Mexico will never pay for, and in being tough on China, he's going to continue to have his and his families clothing line made there.


What do you base that assumption on?

Because none of you can explain how he'll force Mexico to pay for a wall it doesn't want, and because the factories in Mexico and China are churning out Trump products nonstop even as I write this.

There has been plenty of discussion of how Trump might get the Mexicans to pay for it.

And your concern about his clothing line is noted. Trump the businessman played by the crappy rules other people wrote.

That is not reason to believe that Trump the President might not change those rules to benefit the people that put him in office.

And who will be the people who decide whether or not he gets a second term.

Anything that Trump has stated he would do to make Mexico pay for the wall is something that has to be done by Congress, not just him, and McConnell has ALREADY said that the GOP is going to drop Trump like a hot rock if he's the nominee.

And, if Trump REALLY cared about this country, he would have had his clothing lines made here in the USA (yes, there are clothing manufacturers here in the USA), but instead, he chose to cut costs and ship the jobs over to China.

Nope, sorry, but Trump doesn't have any clue as to how to get things done.

Trump has not said what he will do.

As an experienced negotiator, he knows that you do not publish, for your opponent to review, your entire negotiating plan in advance.

It is understandable if you did not know that.

And your pretense that you care about Trump making clothing overseas and not here is noted.

I replied to that and you ignored the points I raised.
 

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