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JoeB likes cherry-picking, it's the only way he can 'level the playing field'.
Of those 'good guys killed with a gun', he leaves out the fact that +/- 20K are suicides, and +/- 80% of the rest are criminals killed by criminals.
Well, I dispute the 80% are criminals. You guys will claim that someone was a crimnal if they had a juvenile shoplifting beef.
Nor are suicides no big deal. In fact, that's the problem. A gun in the house makes suicide a lot easier.
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JoeB likes cherry-picking, it's the only way he can 'level the playing field'.
Of those 'good guys killed with a gun', he leaves out the fact that +/- 20K are suicides, and +/- 80% of the rest are criminals killed by criminals.
Well, I dispute the 80% are criminals. You guys will claim that someone was a crimnal if they had a juvenile shoplifting beef.
Nor are suicides no big deal. In fact, that's the problem. A gun in the house makes suicide a lot easier.
If someone wants to kill themselves they'll find a way to do it with or without a gun.
1. Hanging - Let's ban ropes and belts
2. Carbon Monoxide - Let's ban enclosed garages and automobiles
3. Poisoning - Let's ban ALL drugs and household cleaners
4. Suicide by cop - Let's ban police
Well, I dispute the 80% are criminals. You guys will claim that someone was a crimnal if they had a juvenile shoplifting beef.
Nor are suicides no big deal. In fact, that's the problem. A gun in the house makes suicide a lot easier.
If someone wants to kill themselves they'll find a way to do it with or without a gun.
1. Hanging - Let's ban ropes and belts
2. Carbon Monoxide - Let's ban enclosed garages and automobiles
3. Poisoning - Let's ban ALL drugs and household cleaners
4. Suicide by cop - Let's ban police
Except all those methods are harder than just shooting yourself.
Again- Ban guns- less deaths. Simple enough.
If someone wants to kill themselves they'll find a way to do it with or without a gun.
1. Hanging - Let's ban ropes and belts
2. Carbon Monoxide - Let's ban enclosed garages and automobiles
3. Poisoning - Let's ban ALL drugs and household cleaners
4. Suicide by cop - Let's ban police
Except all those methods are harder than just shooting yourself.
Again- Ban guns- less deaths. Simple enough.
Joe, a person who wants to kill themselves will do it with or without a gun.
According to NIMH, about 50% of suicides use guns, which means that 50% use other methods.
Banning guns won't stop someone from killing themselves, Joe.
NIMH · Suicide in the U.S.: Statistics and Prevention
Why do you want women to be unarmed against potential attackers?
A woman is three times more likely to be murdered if there is a gun in the home if there isn't.
A gun in the home is 43 times more likely to kill a member of the household than a bad guy.
According to the FBI, only 201 felons were killed in self defense with guns while committing a felony.
Next up, let's protect our kids with rabid pitbulls and rattlesnakes!
A woman is three times more likely to be murdered if there is a gun in the home if there isn't.
A gun in the home is 43 times more likely to kill a member of the household than a bad guy.
According to the FBI, only 201 felons were killed in self defense with guns while committing a felony.
Next up, let's protect our kids with rabid pitbulls and rattlesnakes!
Only 201 felons killed but what you fail to mention is how many times a firearm prevented a crime without being fired or without killing anyone. The goal of self defense is not to kill an attacker but rather just to stop the attack.
You like to cherry pick your stats so why don't you present the whole picture?
Oh wait I know why, that would mean you have to be honest and you can't do that now can you?
I don't present that number because it probably doesn't exist. I also don't present the number of times that a domestic abuser threatens his family with a gun, although that probably happens a lot more often than a bad guy being frightened off.
Dead bodies are a nice, solid number.
Number of Good guys killed with guns- 30,000.
Number of bad guys killed with guns - 201.
Hardly seems worth it.
Why do you want women to be unarmed against potential attackers?
A woman is three times more likely to be murdered if there is a gun in the home if there isn't.
A gun in the home is 43 times more likely to kill a member of the household than a bad guy.
According to the FBI, only 201 felons were killed in self defense with guns while committing a felony.
Next up, let's protect our kids with rabid pitbulls and rattlesnakes!
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Guns are used in self defense about 2.5 million times a year.
It's very worth it.
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Guns are used in self defense about 2.5 million times a year.
It's very worth it.
Never happens.
If it did, we'd all know dozens of people who did this.
Example. We know that guns kill about 30,000 people a year. Therefore, we'd all statistically at least know of someone killed with a gun. I know of two- both suicides.
If this happened 2.5 MILLION times a year. We'd all know of someone who chased off a bad guy with a gun.
It doesn't happen.
If you saved your own life you might think it was,worth it.A woman is three times more likely to be murdered if there is a gun in the home if there isn't.
A gun in the home is 43 times more likely to kill a member of the household than a bad guy.
According to the FBI, only 201 felons were killed in self defense with guns while committing a felony.
Next up, let's protect our kids with rabid pitbulls and rattlesnakes!
Only 201 felons killed but what you fail to mention is how many times a firearm prevented a crime without being fired or without killing anyone. The goal of self defense is not to kill an attacker but rather just to stop the attack.
You like to cherry pick your stats so why don't you present the whole picture?
Oh wait I know why, that would mean you have to be honest and you can't do that now can you?
I don't present that number because it probably doesn't exist. I also don't present the number of times that a domestic abuser threatens his family with a gun, although that probably happens a lot more often than a bad guy being frightened off.
Dead bodies are a nice, solid number.
Number of Good guys killed with guns- 30,000.
Number of bad guys killed with guns - 201.
Hardly seems worth it.
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Guns are used in self defense about 2.5 million times a year.
It's very worth it.
Never happens.
If it did, we'd all know dozens of people who did this.
Example. We know that guns kill about 30,000 people a year. Therefore, we'd all statistically at least know of someone killed with a gun. I know of two- both suicides.
If this happened 2.5 MILLION times a year. We'd all know of someone who chased off a bad guy with a gun.
It doesn't happen.
With 330 million Americans that makes the true odds of your conjecture less than 1 in 100.
If you saved your own life you might think it was,worth it.
You are a typical simple minded libtard. Banning guns does not result in less deaths, typical stupid thing to say from a stupid libtard.Well, I dispute the 80% are criminals. You guys will claim that someone was a crimnal if they had a juvenile shoplifting beef.
Nor are suicides no big deal. In fact, that's the problem. A gun in the house makes suicide a lot easier.
If someone wants to kill themselves they'll find a way to do it with or without a gun.
1. Hanging - Let's ban ropes and belts
2. Carbon Monoxide - Let's ban enclosed garages and automobiles
3. Poisoning - Let's ban ALL drugs and household cleaners
4. Suicide by cop - Let's ban police
Except all those methods are harder than just shooting yourself.
Again- Ban guns- less deaths. Simple enough.
You are a typical simple minded libtard. Banning guns does not result in less deaths, typical stupid thing to say from a stupid libtard.
You are a typical simple minded libtard. Banning guns does not result in less deaths, typical stupid thing to say from a stupid libtard.
Then explain why we have 11,000 gun murders and Japan only had 11, the UK only had 47.
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Guns are used in self defense about 2.5 million times a year.
It's very worth it.
Never happens.
If it did, we'd all know dozens of people who did this.
Example. We know that guns kill about 30,000 people a year. Therefore, we'd all statistically at least know of someone killed with a gun. I know of two- both suicides.
If this happened 2.5 MILLION times a year. We'd all know of someone who chased off a bad guy with a gun.
It doesn't happen.
You are a typical simple minded libtard. Banning guns does not result in less deaths, typical stupid thing to say from a stupid libtard.
Then explain why we have 11,000 gun murders and Japan only had 11, the UK only had 47.
Why do you keep asking the same question over and over, when you have already been answered? Are you somehow expecting a different answer?
