GOP: we need the courage to let poor people 'wither and die'

[JQPublic1]

You know....................Jesus said that the poor will always be with us.

There is also a point in Jewish theology that says that you should lay about 10 percent of your land to be grown for the poor.

Sorry, but God wanted us to care for those less fortunate. God is kinda socialist in that way.

Why is it people want to use God and Jesus when it suits them? They want to boast the teachings of the bible, yet wish to remove crosses that are displayed in public or prohibit the display of nativity scenes.

You are talking about two different groups of people. Christians on the left and so-called Christians on the right have no objection to iconic or graphic Christian images...that is, unless they adhere to the commandment that reads: "Thou shalt have no graven images before Me." Atheists or agnostics are represented in both sides of the political isle. Please don't try to align them solely with the Left.

Seems to me this nation has already decided to reject the biblical references in regard to how we are to care for one another and the less fortunate, so why raise the concern now for Jesus' point of view in the matter?

No, this nation has rejected the god of conservatism called mammon when Obama was voted in. The love of money and the callous obsession with wealth is central to Republicanism and breeds insensitivity towards those deemed less fortunate. Now is the time to raise Jesus' name in victory over mammon.

I'm sure we don't need to hear biblical references from the government, after fighting so hard to uphold the liberal interpretation of "separation of church and state".

The "Liberal interpretation of " Separation of Church and State?" Please elaborate. I am not sure I have heard that one!

 

[Anathema]

Why are you making up your personal anecdotes?

You need to become educated.

I do not take well to being called a liar. You need to be on my Ignore List.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Why are you making up your personal anecdotes?

You need to become educated.

I do not take well to being called a liar. You need to be on my Ignore List.

Then don't lie. Simple.

 

[Unkotare]

Why are you making up your personal anecdotes?

You need to become educated.

I do not take well to being called a liar.

You will "take well" to whatever you are damn well told to take well to, pussy.

 

[bedowin62]

FACT: there are MORE poor people since Obama and Democrats came to power. these people USED to be Middle and working class

it's so nice of you failing left-wing nutjobs to want to "help" (read: make dependent) the people you're making poor, with trillions of other people's money


libs are losers who lie to themselves

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

plus all the dead bodies laying around do not do anyone anygood.....disease,stench....those who dont want to help them will change their minds if enough of them are dead in front of their place of residence.....

guys like this one who is trying to cover up his true feeling, they hate the 'Idea of seeing a poor person get food stamps ... they hate any kind of Idea to help the poor... if they are so adamant on the their deaths here, to stop their agony of life, as he is tap dancing all over, then why do the object strongly to aborting them right up front ... look at all the money they will save from not paying them for a life time of being poor

So we have one advocating we simply lay the dead corpses in front of people's homes, while the other making justification to simply kill off their problems before they are born. Neither one addresses the problems of the poor and their dependency on government.

Yet we have a system where public education is free to all, and with some effort they may advance their education goals as high as they wish to go. Some simply desire to do enough graduate with the tools necessary to equip them with a lower skill level job, while others never graduate at all. It appears everyone has an equal opportunity to choose which of these paths they desire to take for themselves. Of course if quality education is the problem, we can always look to those politicians which are against educational "choice" through vouchers OVER public education ... while they send their own children to private schools. Now isn't that the perfect advocacy message for supporting our current educational system, through these politicians efforts to lead by example.

It appears that way to those who are not willing or capable of really understanding the situation.

Oh I feel I have a pretty good understanding when I hear and see Americans who would much rather apply for and receive government assistance, than earn their own way out. When individuals are capable of receiving free cell phones from the government, on the back of taxpayers who do work and contribute revenue to their government, then I don't consider them poor but rather freeloaders. Perhaps you need to get out more to other parts of the world, as your concept of what is considered "poor" needs to be grounded in reality of those who truly have very little possessions and basic necessities to speak of.

 

[LoneLaugher]

So we have one advocating we simply lay the dead corpses in front of people's homes, while the other making justification to simply kill off their problems before they are born. Neither one addresses the problems of the poor and their dependency on government.

Yet we have a system where public education is free to all, and with some effort they may advance their education goals as high as they wish to go. Some simply desire to do enough graduate with the tools necessary to equip them with a lower skill level job, while others never graduate at all. It appears everyone has an equal opportunity to choose which of these paths they desire to take for themselves. Of course if quality education is the problem, we can always look to those politicians which are against educational "choice" through vouchers OVER public education ... while they send their own children to private schools. Now isn't that the perfect advocacy message for supporting our current educational system, through these politicians efforts to lead by example.

It appears that way to those who are not willing or capable of really understanding the situation.

Oh I feel I have a pretty good understanding when I hear and see Americans who would much rather apply for and receive government assistance, than earn their own way out. When individuals are capable of receiving free cell phones from the government, on the back of taxpayers who do work and contribute revenue to their government, then I don't consider them poor but rather freeloaders. Perhaps you need to get out more to other parts of the world, as your concept of what is considered "poor" needs to be grounded in reality of those who truly have very little possessions and basic necessities to speak of.

Been there. The fact that our poor are better off than poor elsewhere is a badge of honor. It is not something that needs to be reversed. Why haven't the poor people in these places benefitted from their abject poverty? Are they lazy freeloaders too?

Answer the question in my sig, please. Numbers required.

 

[Kosh]

Yet another far left fail thread based on the teaching of the far left religion.

More proof that the far left is more dangerous than any terrorist organization in the world.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Yet another far left fail thread based on the teaching of the far left religion.

More proof that the far left is more dangerous than any terrorist organization in the world.

Boy oh boy! You can say that again!

 

[ClosedCaption]

Wither and Die: Good for Americans not for Iraqis

 

[koshergrl]

Goddess Asstar is advocating human trafficking and organ harvesting of the illegal kids we're abusing.

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

It appears that way to those who are not willing or capable of really understanding the situation.

Oh I feel I have a pretty good understanding when I hear and see Americans who would much rather apply for and receive government assistance, than earn their own way out. When individuals are capable of receiving free cell phones from the government, on the back of taxpayers who do work and contribute revenue to their government, then I don't consider them poor but rather freeloaders. Perhaps you need to get out more to other parts of the world, as your concept of what is considered "poor" needs to be grounded in reality of those who truly have very little possessions and basic necessities to speak of.

Been there. The fact that our poor are better off than poor elsewhere is a badge of honor. It is not something that needs to be reversed. Why haven't the poor people in these places benefitted from their abject poverty? Are they lazy freeloaders too?

Answer the question in my sig, please. Numbers required.

I believe I had proposed previously on this thread (as well as in other threads where I attempted to seek out a response to this very same question where this topic has arisen) the case to find factual statistical data that proves the Federal Government's "War on Poverty" has successfully helped in establishing productive members of society that are able to earn for themselves the lifestyle they seek ... rather than allowing the Federal Government to become the enabler of more government dependency. Surely if you were capable of providing such Federally backed resources, you would find the answer you seek rather than paraphrasing the question because of your inability to provide the answer. Like so many others on this USMB that seek to defend our Government's efforts to throw billions of taxpayer dollars on the problem, there is the common silence among them all to prove its effectiveness in reducing the poverty rate and further dependency. Are you also to be considered among them as well? In case you didn't know that such a proposal to prove that government is NOT the enabler of further dependency (aka freeloaders).... look to the response from post 149 below:

Last I knew everyone has equal free access to public education. Now, what they choose to do with that is not the government's responsibility, that rests solely on the individual. If you make the choice to take full advantage and apply yourself, you will make out better than the drop out who chooses to wander the streets. Should the government bear the burden of someone's bad decision, or provide them the resources (not free government provisions) towards earning a wage in order to provide for themselves? Where is the accountability? Is there any record that shows the government's War On Poverty has reduced the nation's poverty rate, or statistics where those once among the poor have been able to successfully work their way out from a life of government dependency?

I'm quite certain, had you been able to find government document proof, you'd find no need to paraphrase in order to "parrot" back the same. Will you in fact be the very first on this board to provide such an answer in all my attempts to seek a strong defense to this inquiry?


This question was previously asked on the thread Poll: Americans Want Obama to Negotiate on page 20, post 291

At what point would you suggest cutting up Obama's credit card? How much debt is acceptable for our nation to carry before this administration takes it seriously?

It isn't Obama's credit card, it's America's.

And the problem with the GOP refusing to raise the debt limit has nothing to do with spending.

I am waiting for the GOP to come up with budget cuts that are based on any kind of reality.

Are they willing to accept real tax increases on teh well off?
Are they willing to drastically cut bloated military spending?
Are they willing to means-test social security so it isn't sending huge checks to millionaires?

Exactly how well has this "War on Poverty" been achieved since it was implemented? Do we see any signs [documented proof] of government progress, or are we simply supplying those who choose not to take responsibility to provide for themselves? Where is the accountability for how all THOSE billions are spent, especially when they don't contribute to the needs of this country through federal taxes?

 

[rdean]

At least he isn't encouraging them to murder the poor through abortion and drug use.

I don't know anyone who is encouraging that.

But I do know of swine who are cutting school lunches, food stamps for poor children and disabled veterans.

 

[LogikAndReazon]

Nonsense....perhaps we can manage letting parasitic leftist twits like this imbecile wither and die though....

 

[bedowin62]

At least he isn't encouraging them to murder the poor through abortion and drug use.

I don't know anyone who is encouraging that.

But I do know of swine who are cutting school lunches, food stamps for poor children and disabled veterans.

left-wing nutjobs INSIST job growth under Obama is real' that the good times are here; and that the jobs being created aren't minimum wage

why do food stamps and other aid have to remain at record levels

left-wing swine are too stupid to ask themselves the tough questions

 

[sealybobo]

Indiana GOP candidate: ‘No one has the guts’ to let poor people ‘wither and die’

“I was not trying to hurt anybody’s feelings,” Johnston said. “I saw the opportunity to say something. I think a lot of the poor have no way out, and there’s no motivation to improve your position. It’s like training a child, either you enable them or force them out at some point.”

The candidate made the comments in a discussion thread on the Mad Mac page, which covers local politics.

“For almost three generations people, in some cases, have been given handouts,” Johnston said during the discussion. “They have been ‘enabled’ so much that their paradigm in life is simply being given the stuff of life, however meager.”

“What you see is a setting for a life of misery is life to them never-the-less,” he continued. “No one has the guts to just let them wither and die. No one who wants votes is willing to call a spade a spade. As long as the Dems can get their votes the enabling will continue. The Republicans need their votes and dare not cut the fiscal tether. It is really a political Catch-22.”

Did they learn nothing from 'legitimate rape' guy?

These sound bytes are killers--especially since the base ain't rich.

No Republican has the guts to admit that abortion is a necessary evil. We need to thin the herd. This planet is over populated.

 

[sealybobo]

At least he isn't encouraging them to murder the poor through abortion and drug use.

I don't know anyone who is encouraging that.

But I do know of swine who are cutting school lunches, food stamps for poor children and disabled veterans.

1. I am advocating for more abortions because we are overpopulated.

2. And they do allow cigarette companies to continue pushing the worst product ever despite how many people every year get cancer.

 

[bedowin62]

Indiana GOP candidate: ‘No one has the guts’ to let poor people ‘wither and die’

“I was not trying to hurt anybody’s feelings,” Johnston said. “I saw the opportunity to say something. I think a lot of the poor have no way out, and there’s no motivation to improve your position. It’s like training a child, either you enable them or force them out at some point.”

The candidate made the comments in a discussion thread on the Mad Mac page, which covers local politics.

“For almost three generations people, in some cases, have been given handouts,” Johnston said during the discussion. “They have been ‘enabled’ so much that their paradigm in life is simply being given the stuff of life, however meager.”

“What you see is a setting for a life of misery is life to them never-the-less,” he continued. “No one has the guts to just let them wither and die. No one who wants votes is willing to call a spade a spade. As long as the Dems can get their votes the enabling will continue. The Republicans need their votes and dare not cut the fiscal tether. It is really a political Catch-22.”

Did they learn nothing from 'legitimate rape' guy?

These sound bytes are killers--especially since the base ain't rich.

No Republican has the guts to admit that abortion is a necessary evil. We need to thin the herd. This planet is over populated.

then why don't you and your friends pay for them leftard; why do we have to?

 

[deltex1]

Indiana GOP candidate: ‘No one has the guts’ to let poor people ‘wither and die’

“I was not trying to hurt anybody’s feelings,” Johnston said. “I saw the opportunity to say something. I think a lot of the poor have no way out, and there’s no motivation to improve your position. It’s like training a child, either you enable them or force them out at some point.”

The candidate made the comments in a discussion thread on the Mad Mac page, which covers local politics.

“For almost three generations people, in some cases, have been given handouts,” Johnston said during the discussion. “They have been ‘enabled’ so much that their paradigm in life is simply being given the stuff of life, however meager.”

“What you see is a setting for a life of misery is life to them never-the-less,” he continued. “No one has the guts to just let them wither and die. No one who wants votes is willing to call a spade a spade. As long as the Dems can get their votes the enabling will continue. The Republicans need their votes and dare not cut the fiscal tether. It is really a political Catch-22.”

Did they learn nothing from 'legitimate rape' guy?

These sound bytes are killers--especially since the base ain't rich.

Send me your address,Gertrude...I've got a boatload of garden tomatoes...I'll send you enough to keep you going for a week or two.

 

[rightwinger]

Indiana GOP candidate: ‘No one has the guts’ to let poor people ‘wither and die’







Did they learn nothing from 'legitimate rape' guy?

These sound bytes are killers--especially since the base ain't rich.

No Republican has the guts to admit that abortion is a necessary evil. We need to thin the herd. This planet is over populated.

then why don't you and your friends pay for them leftard; why do we have to?

You don't want to abort them and you don't want to pay for them......what other options do you have?