Great quote on "christian nation"

[eflatminor]

Christians always come up with the quibbles about redistribution etc when asked why they don't follow Jesus' teachings.

Jesus taught to take from the rich and redistribute to the poor? Really? Please point that out for us...or are you confusing Christianity with some twisted version of Robin Hood?

Where did my post imply any of that?

So, you're against the government provided welfare? Say so and I will retract my statement.

 

[blu]

Jesus taught to take from the rich and redistribute to the poor? Really? Please point that out for us...or are you confusing Christianity with some twisted version of Robin Hood?

Where did my post imply any of that?

So, you're against the government provided welfare? Say so and I will retract my statement.

The burden of proof is on you... I can see you aren't that big on logic & reason

 

[eflatminor]

what does this have to do with jesus's teachings?

What does your OP have to do with his teachings? Answer: Not a damn thing.

TD points out the utter failure of your attempts at forced charity through theft. But, hey, maybe if we stole just a few more billion, we'd win this war on poverty, eh?

no you are just an idiot. This is on an individual level, nothing to do with government

That would be "No"...as any idiot would know.

 

[eflatminor]

Where did my post imply any of that?

So, you're against the government provided welfare? Say so and I will retract my statement.

The burden of proof is on you... I can see you aren't that big on logic & reason

Sounds to me like your bitching about people not giving enough to charity AND wanting government to forcibly take more for welfare. The burden is on you to be clear in what you're advocating. You're the OP, not me.

 

[blu]

So, you're against the government provided welfare? Say so and I will retract my statement.

The burden of proof is on you... I can see you aren't that big on logic & reason

Sounds to me like your bitching about people not giving enough to charity AND wanting government to forcibly take more for welfare. The burden is on you to be clear in what you're advocating. You're the OP, not me.

Its not my fault you do not properly comprehend what you read and/or project your own pre-conceived notions onto others thoughts. You are an embarrassment to us other classical liberals.

 

[Steelplate]

if you own a home, car, and any "extras" that aren't require to live then you simply aren't following jesus's teachings. its as simple as that and you would fit his definition of greed and sin perfectly.

Wow....

 

[California Girl]

Where is the quote from Jesus saying we should pass our obligation to the poor to government? That's right... there isn't one. It is our individual responsibility. Real Christians know this.

 

[eflatminor]

The burden of proof is on you... I can see you aren't that big on logic & reason

Sounds to me like your bitching about people not giving enough to charity AND wanting government to forcibly take more for welfare. The burden is on you to be clear in what you're advocating. You're the OP, not me.

Its not my fault you do not properly comprehend what you read and/or project your own pre-conceived notions onto others thoughts.

Then make yourself clear. If you stand against government welfare, say so. If you think people should give more to charity, tells us exactly what you would consider acceptable and why anyone should give a shit what you think. Pretending to know what Jesus would want doesn't cut it.

You are an embarrassment to us other classical liberals.

Bullshit. You're no Classical Liberal. No CL/libertarian would quote Colbert with a straight face.

 

[blu]

Where is the quote from Jesus saying we should pass our obligation to the poor to government? That's right... there isn't one. It is our individual responsibility. Real Christians know this.

thats the whole point of this thread, we finally agree on something

 

[blu]

Sounds to me like your bitching about people not giving enough to charity AND wanting government to forcibly take more for welfare. The burden is on you to be clear in what you're advocating. You're the OP, not me.

Its not my fault you do not properly comprehend what you read and/or project your own pre-conceived notions onto others thoughts.

Then make yourself clear. If you stand against government welfare, say so. If you think people should give more to charity, tells us exactly what you would consider acceptable and why anyone should give a shit what you think. Pretending to know what Jesus would want doesn't cut it.

You are an embarrassment to us other classical liberals.

Bullshit. You're no Classical Liberal. No CL/libertarian would quote Colbert with a straight face.

LOL

so far you have:

1) tried to grammar nazi me with "no" vs "No"

2) Put the burden of proof on me

and now you are ad honieming the quote. Would the point of the quote change if anyone else said it?

You really are an embarrassment to the libertarian cause.

 

[blu]

if you own a home, car, and any "extras" that aren't require to live then you simply aren't following jesus's teachings. its as simple as that and you would fit his definition of greed and sin perfectly.

Wow....

feel free to prove me wrong

 

[Darkwind]

Far from great. Complete and utter bullshit...sure.

First, this nation does help the poor. We're incredibly generous and charitable. As a result the poorest Americans are comparatively rich.

Whatever Jesus said about helping the needy, he was speaking of charity, not theft and redistribution. It's one thing to give to the poor of your own accord. That's charity. It's quite another to take from some and give to others. That's theft...I'm pretty sure the rabbi Jesus espoused "thou shall not steal".

Is there anything you collectivists won't twist into your some version of socialism? Just pathetic.

Christians always come up with the quibbles about redistribution etc when asked why they don't follow Jesus' teachings.

No they don't. First, your idea of what constitutes Christian practices does not matter and is not accurate.

I help and give to the needy every day. That is what Jesus taught.

What Jesus did NOT teach was forcible confiscation of other persons labor, to fulfill the thieves notion of what his right.

 

[kaz]

Not sure which is dumber, your lack of ability to think of any way to help the poor but government or your belief that government actually helps the poor...

Also, can you show me the bible passage that mentions it's government's job to help the poor, not yours?

 

[California Girl]

Where is the quote from Jesus saying we should pass our obligation to the poor to government? That's right... there isn't one. It is our individual responsibility. Real Christians know this.

thats the whole point of this thread, we finally agree on something

No, we don't. You made no opinion in your OP - you simply produced some bullshit quote from a moron. That's not having an opinion, its being given an opinion.

 

[kaz]

if you own a home, car, and any "extras" that aren't require to live then you simply aren't following jesus's teachings. its as simple as that and you would fit his definition of greed and sin perfectly.

Wow....

feel free to prove me wrong

You're a moron. You don't have to prove me wrong, you just did...

 

[bobcollum]

Not which is dumber, your lack of ability to think of any way to help the poor but government or your belief that government actually helps the poor...

Also, can you show me the bible passage that mentions it's government's job to help the poor, not yours?

Food stamps don't help people with no food to eat?

That's weird.

 

[eflatminor]

blu, if you really are a libertarian that stands against the entitlement mentality and if you really are simply suggesting that we should give more to charity (which we would without the government theft), then you should make that clear. As you can see from all the similar responses, your OP has given the impression you think Jesus stood for redistribution, which is clearly not the case.

Perception is reality. Make your point clearly.

 

[blu]

Not sure which is dumber, your lack of ability to think of any way to help the poor but government or your belief that government actually helps the poor...

Also, can you show me the bible passage that mentions it's government's job to help the poor, not yours?

where is the government mentioned?

 

[kaz]

Not which is dumber, your lack of ability to think of any way to help the poor but government or your belief that government actually helps the poor...

Also, can you show me the bible passage that mentions it's government's job to help the poor, not yours?

Food stamps don't help people with no food to eat?

That's weird.

If you want to have a serious discussion then you have to provide an actually thought through point on the role government is playing in addressing poverty. You might want to consider in 50 years after trillions spent why poverty rates are the same.

If you want to be snarky, you have it covered, carry on.

 

[eflatminor]

Not which is dumber, your lack of ability to think of any way to help the poor but government or your belief that government actually helps the poor...

Also, can you show me the bible passage that mentions it's government's job to help the poor, not yours?

Food stamps don't help people with no food to eat?

That's weird.

Sure, but it also helps them to remain reliant upon others. The worst thing a government can do to its people is feed them. Nothing is more de-motivational and counter to what a society needs to thrive.

Since the OP was about Jesus, I also seem to remember something about teaching a man to fish...