"Gun Nuts" ???

[rightwinger]

It is the only economic system fully compatible with individual freedom. Our founders knew that, and so should you. Article 1, section 8, of the US Constitution, does not give the federal government power to regulate trade, except for interstate trade, trade with foreign governments, and trade with Indian tribes. Free trade is capitalism.

FAIL

Nowhere in the Constitution does it mention capitalism

Nowhere in the Constitution does it mention abortion, but it is the law of the land, as determined by the supreme court. You, in your abject ignorance, assume that since the word itself is not contained, then it is not there. It is there, from top to bottom. You put the pieces together, and you get to see the picture.

Since the federal government was given no power to regulate trade between individuals, individuals have the right to free trade, and that is capitalism, in every sense of the word.

At the time the constitution was written, our founding fathers could not have cared less about protecting the institution of capitalism

If they did, it would have found it's way into the Bill of Rights

 

[beagle9]

FAIL

Nowhere in the Constitution does it mention capitalism

Nowhere in the Constitution does it mention abortion, but it is the law of the land, as determined by the supreme court. You, in your abject ignorance, assume that since the word itself is not contained, then it is not there. It is there, from top to bottom. You put the pieces together, and you get to see the picture.

Since the federal government was given no power to regulate trade between individuals, individuals have the right to free trade, and that is capitalism, in every sense of the word.

At the time the constitution was written, our founding fathers could not have cared less about protecting the institution of capitalism

If they did, it would have found it's way into the Bill of Rights

Rightwinger, what is your purpose here ? I mean what is it that you are ultimately trying to say or suggest, or even instigate, because so far you are just an agitator/instigator it seems, and nothing more, and in this I bet people are getting tired of being aggravated with people who are like you, but here you are, and her they are explaining themselves to someone like you, now go figure that one, because I sure can't figure that one out as of yet. Are you paranoid of the so called law abiding gun nuts ? Do you fear them that they may take this nation back by force in your mind?

By showing how possibly dumb those who are on the left really are, is this what people like you worry about with people like them ? Do you think that you could force their hand maybe, instead of them doing it the way that they know how to do it, and this in which is through the proper political system in place just like it should be ? Why don't you really tell us how you feel, and what you are up to in all that you do here.. Can't do that can you ? I thought not..

 

[rightwinger]

Nowhere in the Constitution does it mention abortion, but it is the law of the land, as determined by the supreme court. You, in your abject ignorance, assume that since the word itself is not contained, then it is not there. It is there, from top to bottom. You put the pieces together, and you get to see the picture.

Since the federal government was given no power to regulate trade between individuals, individuals have the right to free trade, and that is capitalism, in every sense of the word.

At the time the constitution was written, our founding fathers could not have cared less about protecting the institution of capitalism

If they did, it would have found it's way into the Bill of Rights

Rightwinger, what is your purpose here ? I mean what is it that you are ultimately trying to say or suggest, or even instigate, because so far you are just an agitator/instigator it seems, and nothing more, and in this I bet people are getting tired of being aggravated with people who are like you, but here you are, and her they are explaining themselves to someone like you, now go figure that one, because I sure can't figure that one out as of yet. Are you paranoid of the so called law abiding gun nuts ? Do you fear them that they may take this nation back by force in your mind?

By showing how possibly dumb those who are on the left really are, is this what people like you worry about with people like them ? Do you think that you could force their hand maybe, instead of them doing it the way that they know how to do it, and this in which is through the proper political system in place just like it should be ? Why don't you really tell us how you feel, and what you are up to in all that you do here.. Can't do that can you ? I thought not..

As a patriotic defender of our Constitution I am tired of those on the right inserting their personal agenda into the fine document

 

[legaleagle_45]

At the time the constitution was written, our founding fathers could not have cared less about protecting the institution of capitalism

If they did, it would have found it's way into the Bill of Rights

5th Amend. See also, Blackstone, Commentaries on the Laws of England, Book the First - Chapter the First : Of the Absolute Rights of Individuals, 134-136 for an explanation of the nature and understanding of property rights as understood by the Founding generation.

 

[rightwinger]

At the time the constitution was written, our founding fathers could not have cared less about protecting the institution of capitalism

If they did, it would have found it's way into the Bill of Rights

5th Amend. See also, Blackstone, Commentaries on the Laws of England, Book the First - Chapter the First : Of the Absolute Rights of Individuals, 134-136 for an explanation of the nature and understanding of property rights as understood by the Founding generation.

There was a big leap from individual property rights to the corporate industrial complex

 

[Uncensored2008]

This is the best you can do?

We don't ban the written word.

Images that exploit children and those not able to legally consent are prohibited. Just as shooting people in the face is prohibited. Neither have anything to do with the civil rights involved.

Again, you have no objection to banning certain classes of books, such as conservative books, or books critical of Muhammad, right?

After all, there will still be a lot of books allowed, you're not banning all books.

Maybe Dianne Feinstein can have a book burning on the floor of the Senate?

I have no problem banning books containing child porn
Just like I have no problem banning guns used to kill first graders

Let's suppose Feinstein's Gun Ban Bill was voted into law and let's say 10 years from now there is no noticeable drop in related gun homosides, would you be okay with lifting the ban?

His argument is spurious and without reason, which is typical of his level of argumentation.

I have no problem banning guns used to kill first graders

And who would? A picture of a child engaged in sex is a specific crime - it is a criminal act in itself.

The AR15 used at Sandyhook was engaged in a specific crime. Of course we want that gun banned, in fact destroyed - which it will be.

However, lacking the capacity for logic or reason, RW goes on to demand that ALL AR15's be banned, whether used in a crime or not. This is a bit like claiming that if a Nikon is used to take kiddie porn, then all Nikon camera's be banned. Foolish and absurd.

But foolish and absurd defines the left. Leftism is the manifestation of a lack of reason and a lack of reasoning skill.

 

[Uncensored2008]

there are plenty of people who support the second amendment, who are not mentally unstable

But then, there are some democrats who support the second amendment, or at least claim to - so there are mentally unstable people who support the second...

there are however people who are mentally unwell and also happen to think that they should be allowed unfettered access to weaponry.

There are also unwell people who think they should be allowed to write what they please, and even criticize Dear Leader. You of the Khmer Rouge democrats are dedicated to ensuring that civil rights are but a foot note of history.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Those who pass background checks have nothing to worry about do they?

The words of many are incendiary and incite violence. Websites like ThinkProgress, Alternet, Common Dreams, and Daily KOS exist for no reason other than to promote hatred. Will you also demand that background checks be conducted before people can be permitted to utilized dangerous words and spread dangerous ideas?

"Ideas are far more dangerous than guns. We don't let the people have guns, why should we let them express ideas?" - Barack Obama, no sorry, Josef Stalin. (Easy to get those two mixed up...)

 

[Uncensored2008]

The vast majority of gun deaths are suicides and domestic murders.

Lying again, Comrade Stalin? It's a habit with you.

A slight majority of gun deaths are indeed suicide - would you Bolsheviks argue that a person wanting to die would not turn to a rope or razor blade if a gun were not availible? Does Japan not have 5 times the number of suicides per capita, despite guns being illegal?

And domestic murders? You know that's a flat out lie, but lack any hint of integrity - hey, you're a Communist, ethics aren't big among the left..

Gun homicide is predominately urban youth killing other urban youth. In fact, overwhelmingly so.

if we limited our gun deaths to JUST those committed by career criminals, we'd have a murder rate about the level of most European countries- down in the hundreds instead of the tens of thousands.

That's a fucking lie - which is typical from you.

 

[tjvh]

At the time the constitution was written, our founding fathers could not have cared less about protecting the institution of capitalism

If they did, it would have found it's way into the Bill of Rights

Rightwinger, what is your purpose here ? I mean what is it that you are ultimately trying to say or suggest, or even instigate, because so far you are just an agitator/instigator it seems, and nothing more, and in this I bet people are getting tired of being aggravated with people who are like you, but here you are, and her they are explaining themselves to someone like you, now go figure that one, because I sure can't figure that one out as of yet. Are you paranoid of the so called law abiding gun nuts ? Do you fear them that they may take this nation back by force in your mind?

By showing how possibly dumb those who are on the left really are, is this what people like you worry about with people like them ? Do you think that you could force their hand maybe, instead of them doing it the way that they know how to do it, and this in which is through the proper political system in place just like it should be ? Why don't you really tell us how you feel, and what you are up to in all that you do here.. Can't do that can you ? I thought not..

As a patriotic defender of our Constitution I am tired of those on the right inserting their personal agenda into the fine document

Maybe if you read that document without wearing your partisan glasses, you'd understand that it's just fine the way it was written. But thanks for the laugh regardless.

 

[legaleagle_45]

There was a big leap from individual property rights to the corporate industrial complex

You did not even bother to read the citation to Blackstone that I gave you, huh? If you had you would have seen him explain artificial persons-- a reference to corporations.

PERSONS alfo are divided by the law into either natural perfons, or artificial. Natural perfons are fuch as the God of nature formed us : artificial are fuch as created and devifed by human laws for the purpofes of fociety and government ; which are called corporations or bodies politic

Then he goes on to distinguish the rights of persons with the rights of individuals.

 

[rightwinger]

Rightwinger, what is your purpose here ? I mean what is it that you are ultimately trying to say or suggest, or even instigate, because so far you are just an agitator/instigator it seems, and nothing more, and in this I bet people are getting tired of being aggravated with people who are like you, but here you are, and her they are explaining themselves to someone like you, now go figure that one, because I sure can't figure that one out as of yet. Are you paranoid of the so called law abiding gun nuts ? Do you fear them that they may take this nation back by force in your mind?

By showing how possibly dumb those who are on the left really are, is this what people like you worry about with people like them ? Do you think that you could force their hand maybe, instead of them doing it the way that they know how to do it, and this in which is through the proper political system in place just like it should be ? Why don't you really tell us how you feel, and what you are up to in all that you do here.. Can't do that can you ? I thought not..

As a patriotic defender of our Constitution I am tired of those on the right inserting their personal agenda into the fine document

Maybe if you read that document without wearing your partisan glasses, you'd understand that it's just fine the way it was written. But thanks for the laugh regardless.

I'm fine with our Constitution

It is Conservatives who are always trying to change it

 

[Uncensored2008]

I'm fine with our Constitution

It is Conservatives who are always trying to change it

Yeah, change it by slipping in those first ten amendments, that your party has tossed in the trash....

 

[rightwinger]

I'm fine with our Constitution

It is Conservatives who are always trying to change it

Yeah, change it by slipping in those first ten amendments, that your party has tossed in the trash....

What amendments don't conservatives like?

1st, 4th, 5th, 6th, 8th, 14th, 17th

Don't touch the 2nd amendment but the hell with the rest

 

[legaleagle_45]

I'm fine with our Constitution

It is Conservatives who are always trying to change it

Yeah, change it by slipping in those first ten amendments, that your party has tossed in the trash....

What amendments don't conservatives like?

1st, 4th, 5th, 6th, 8th, 14th, 17th

Don't touch the 2nd amendment but the hell with the rest

I kinda like all of those, although leftwingers do not seem to think to highly of 4th and 5th when it comes to the subject of firearms.. Some seem to think that if your name is on a top secret list which can not be challenged, that is sufficient to deny 2nd Amend rights... and of course just compensation for banned weapons is a bit of a stretch and people kinda want to have access to your home to search weapons sometimes. About the only one which I do not like is the 18th and that was repealed... ok you twisted my arm and it is almost April 15, screw the 16th as well.

 

[Uncensored2008]

What amendments don't conservatives like?

Conservatives aren't at war to end civil rights. You of the left are. The Obama collectivist/authoritarians have declared war on the Bill of Rights.

1st,

Obama had a man imprisoned for making an "Anti-Muslim" film. Now we know that it was part of the Benghazi fraud and coverup, but this is a clear example of Obama crushing the freedom of speech.

Obama attacked the freedom of religion by requiring the Catholic church to violate their own doctrine by providing birth control and chemical abortion.

4th, 5th,

Barack Obama engaged in the extrajudicial killing (murder) of 3 American citizens, zero judicial due process. Talk about pissing on the 5th and 14th...

6th, 8th, 14th, 17th

See above for violations of the 14th.

Don't touch the 2nd amendment but the hell with the rest

Whereas you just want to end all civil rights - every last one...

Standard Disclaimer: You actually ARE a right winger, aren't you? You just pretend to be a far left troll to discredit the left. Sort of like Bil_Stunbmun, but not nearly as clever...

 

[rightwinger]

What amendments don't conservatives like?

Conservatives aren't at war to end civil rights. You of the left are. The Obama collectivist/authoritarians have declared war on the Bill of Rights.

1st,

Obama had a man imprisoned for making an "Anti-Muslim" film. Now we know that it was part of the Benghazi fraud and coverup, but this is a clear example of Obama crushing the freedom of speech.

Obama attacked the freedom of religion by requiring the Catholic church to violate their own doctrine by providing birth control and chemical abortion.



Barack Obama engaged in the extrajudicial killing (murder) of 3 American citizens, zero judicial due process. Talk about pissing on the 5th and 14th...

6th, 8th, 14th, 17th

See above for violations of the 14th.

Don't touch the 2nd amendment but the hell with the rest

Whereas you just want to end all civil rights - every last one...

Standard Disclaimer: You actually ARE a right winger, aren't you? You just pretend to be a far left troll to discredit the left. Sort of like Bil_Stunbmun, but not nearly as clever...

Obama never had a man imprisoned for making an anti Muslim film....so I will just ignore the rest of your lies

 

[zonly1]

there are plenty of people who support the second amendment, who are not mentally unstable

there are however people who are mentally unwell and also happen to think that they should be allowed unfettered access to weaponry.

So you know adam lanza and james holmes ...and james holmes is practicing islam unaprior to shooting.

Unfortunately for your dumbass YOU DO NOT COMPREHEND the 2nd amendment purpose. And unfortunately for you..you're a dumbass...got it mc'fly.

THe 2nd isn't for hunting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I run through this endless threads and many are very similar to your typical ilk in terms of response...you are pathetic ..a dumb down sector of our society.

THe bad guys are still going get those banned guns.!!!!!!

 

[zonly1]

Rightwinger, what is your purpose here ? I mean what is it that you are ultimately trying to say or suggest, or even instigate, because so far you are just an agitator/instigator it seems, and nothing more, and in this I bet people are getting tired of being aggravated with people who are like you, but here you are, and her they are explaining themselves to someone like you, now go figure that one, because I sure can't figure that one out as of yet. Are you paranoid of the so called law abiding gun nuts ? Do you fear them that they may take this nation back by force in your mind?

By showing how possibly dumb those who are on the left really are, is this what people like you worry about with people like them ? Do you think that you could force their hand maybe, instead of them doing it the way that they know how to do it, and this in which is through the proper political system in place just like it should be ? Why don't you really tell us how you feel, and what you are up to in all that you do here.. Can't do that can you ? I thought not..

As a patriotic defender of our Constitution I am tired of those on the right inserting their personal agenda into the fine document

Maybe if you read that document without wearing your partisan glasses, you'd understand that it's just fine the way it was written. But thanks for the laugh regardless.

Partisan has nothing to do with principles..apparently you don't like principles b/c principles don't fit in your delusional world.

 

[Grandma]

How do the "bad guys" get the guns?

In some states they fill out a "background check" card themselves, being sure to NOT check "yes" on any of the "have you ever been convicted of..." questions.

In most other states someone that can actually pass a background check buys lots of guns and resells them to criminals.

And there are dumbasses that display their guns in pretty glass cabinets instead of hiding them in safes, so the bad guys steal the guns.

If people have to keep their guns in safes or else be held responsible for any crimes committed with those guns, I bet people do a better job of keeping their guns from being stolen.

If every gun buyer has to pass a background check and go through a waiting period - AND REGISTER EVERY GUN THEY BUY, far fewer guns will be sold on the streets.