Gun owner, with concealed gun, shoots killer in a sports bar...where they serve alcohol...

[miketx]

Hmmm...I wonder if the guy who saved the day in this sports bar woke up that morning thinking he would need his gun? I wonder if he is glad he put that gun on and carried it with him? Do you think he did so in fear, or in preperation for the odd chance some nut would walk into a sports bar and shoot an employee in front of him....?

Police: Concealed Carry Permit Holder Shoots, Kills 'Active Shooter' - Breitbart

On Wednesday night a concealed carry permit holder shot and killed an alleged “active shooter” at Zona Caliente Sports Bar in Arlington, Texas.
The incident occurred around 6:15 pm. WFAA reported, “A man opened fire at the Zona Caliente Sports Bar… but police say a customer with a gun of his own put a stop to it.”

The man reported to police as an “active shooter” was 48-year-old James Jones. He allegedly walked into Zona Caliente, began arguing with the manager — 37-year-old Cesar Perez — and then pulled out a gun and killed Perez. At that moment a concealed carry permit holder responded by pulling his own gun and killing Jones.

The unidentified permit holder had to come down from “the other end of the bar” to intervene and stop Jones. Arlington Police Department Lt. Christopher Cook said, “[The concealed permit holder] made the decision to engage the shooter, fearing there would be other loss of life.”

Police do not yet have a motive in the shooting of Perez, but they have made clear that the concealed permit holder will face no charges for the actions he took to be sure no other innocents were harmed.


So....concealed carrier stops a killer.....

they are in a sports bar where alcohol is served....

anti gun myth, after anti gun myth just goes away...

He "saved the day"? The manager was shot dead, so whose day did he save?

Considering the killer with the gun was in a room filled with innocent people, and he had just killed another human being...how about the rest of the people in the sports bar....

Are you normally this slow?

Nothing suggests that he was going to kill anyone else, he had a beef with the manager, that's it. The second shooter was trigger happy and maybe the first shooter killed a pedophile who raped his daughter, so it would have been a righteous killing.

The fact that he just shot someone suggests it, idiot.

 

[Mudda]

Hmmm...I wonder if the guy who saved the day in this sports bar woke up that morning thinking he would need his gun? I wonder if he is glad he put that gun on and carried it with him? Do you think he did so in fear, or in preperation for the odd chance some nut would walk into a sports bar and shoot an employee in front of him....?

Police: Concealed Carry Permit Holder Shoots, Kills 'Active Shooter' - Breitbart

On Wednesday night a concealed carry permit holder shot and killed an alleged “active shooter” at Zona Caliente Sports Bar in Arlington, Texas.
The incident occurred around 6:15 pm. WFAA reported, “A man opened fire at the Zona Caliente Sports Bar… but police say a customer with a gun of his own put a stop to it.”

The man reported to police as an “active shooter” was 48-year-old James Jones. He allegedly walked into Zona Caliente, began arguing with the manager — 37-year-old Cesar Perez — and then pulled out a gun and killed Perez. At that moment a concealed carry permit holder responded by pulling his own gun and killing Jones.

The unidentified permit holder had to come down from “the other end of the bar” to intervene and stop Jones. Arlington Police Department Lt. Christopher Cook said, “[The concealed permit holder] made the decision to engage the shooter, fearing there would be other loss of life.”

Police do not yet have a motive in the shooting of Perez, but they have made clear that the concealed permit holder will face no charges for the actions he took to be sure no other innocents were harmed.


So....concealed carrier stops a killer.....

they are in a sports bar where alcohol is served....

anti gun myth, after anti gun myth just goes away...

He "saved the day"? The manager was shot dead, so whose day did he save?

Considering the killer with the gun was in a room filled with innocent people, and he had just killed another human being...how about the rest of the people in the sports bar....

Are you normally this slow?

Nothing suggests that he was going to kill anyone else, he had a beef with the manager, that's it. The second shooter was trigger happy and maybe the first shooter killed a pedophile who raped his daughter, so it would have been a righteous killing.

The fact that he just shot someone suggests it, idiot.

The police said that they didn't know why the first shooter fired on the manager. Not everyone who kills someone is a mass murderer. Please try again.

 

[miketx]

Hmmm...I wonder if the guy who saved the day in this sports bar woke up that morning thinking he would need his gun? I wonder if he is glad he put that gun on and carried it with him? Do you think he did so in fear, or in preperation for the odd chance some nut would walk into a sports bar and shoot an employee in front of him....?

Police: Concealed Carry Permit Holder Shoots, Kills 'Active Shooter' - Breitbart

On Wednesday night a concealed carry permit holder shot and killed an alleged “active shooter” at Zona Caliente Sports Bar in Arlington, Texas.
The incident occurred around 6:15 pm. WFAA reported, “A man opened fire at the Zona Caliente Sports Bar… but police say a customer with a gun of his own put a stop to it.”

The man reported to police as an “active shooter” was 48-year-old James Jones. He allegedly walked into Zona Caliente, began arguing with the manager — 37-year-old Cesar Perez — and then pulled out a gun and killed Perez. At that moment a concealed carry permit holder responded by pulling his own gun and killing Jones.

The unidentified permit holder had to come down from “the other end of the bar” to intervene and stop Jones. Arlington Police Department Lt. Christopher Cook said, “[The concealed permit holder] made the decision to engage the shooter, fearing there would be other loss of life.”

Police do not yet have a motive in the shooting of Perez, but they have made clear that the concealed permit holder will face no charges for the actions he took to be sure no other innocents were harmed.


So....concealed carrier stops a killer.....

they are in a sports bar where alcohol is served....

anti gun myth, after anti gun myth just goes away...

He "saved the day"? The manager was shot dead, so whose day did he save?

Considering the killer with the gun was in a room filled with innocent people, and he had just killed another human being...how about the rest of the people in the sports bar....

Are you normally this slow?

Nothing suggests that he was going to kill anyone else, he had a beef with the manager, that's it. The second shooter was trigger happy and maybe the first shooter killed a pedophile who raped his daughter, so it would have been a righteous killing.

The fact that he just shot someone suggests it, idiot.

The police said that they didn't know why the first shooter fired on the manager. Not everyone who kills someone is a mass murderer. Please try again.

What does the prove? Just because the police don't know why he shot the guy, what does that prove? Does that automatically mean he won't shoot again? A person with a gun that has just murdered someone is an active threat.

 

[2aguy]

Hmmm...I wonder if the guy who saved the day in this sports bar woke up that morning thinking he would need his gun? I wonder if he is glad he put that gun on and carried it with him? Do you think he did so in fear, or in preperation for the odd chance some nut would walk into a sports bar and shoot an employee in front of him....?

Police: Concealed Carry Permit Holder Shoots, Kills 'Active Shooter' - Breitbart

On Wednesday night a concealed carry permit holder shot and killed an alleged “active shooter” at Zona Caliente Sports Bar in Arlington, Texas.
The incident occurred around 6:15 pm. WFAA reported, “A man opened fire at the Zona Caliente Sports Bar… but police say a customer with a gun of his own put a stop to it.”

The man reported to police as an “active shooter” was 48-year-old James Jones. He allegedly walked into Zona Caliente, began arguing with the manager — 37-year-old Cesar Perez — and then pulled out a gun and killed Perez. At that moment a concealed carry permit holder responded by pulling his own gun and killing Jones.

The unidentified permit holder had to come down from “the other end of the bar” to intervene and stop Jones. Arlington Police Department Lt. Christopher Cook said, “[The concealed permit holder] made the decision to engage the shooter, fearing there would be other loss of life.”

Police do not yet have a motive in the shooting of Perez, but they have made clear that the concealed permit holder will face no charges for the actions he took to be sure no other innocents were harmed.


So....concealed carrier stops a killer.....

they are in a sports bar where alcohol is served....

anti gun myth, after anti gun myth just goes away...

He "saved the day"? The manager was shot dead, so whose day did he save?

Considering the killer with the gun was in a room filled with innocent people, and he had just killed another human being...how about the rest of the people in the sports bar....

Are you normally this slow?

Nothing suggests that he was going to kill anyone else, he had a beef with the manager, that's it. The second shooter was trigger happy and maybe the first shooter killed a pedophile who raped his daughter, so it would have been a righteous killing.

Wow....did you hurt your brain coming up with that one.....

"Police do not yet have a motive in the shooting of Perez," So it could have been a righteous shoot, you simply don't know. Now you do.

They know that he shot a guy he had no relationship to........and considering he went in there, got into an argument with the guy who seemed to be trying to calm him down....then drew a gun on an unarmed man and shot him in cold blood....

Yeah...keep pushing your fairy tale...

 

[Divine Wind]

Hmmm...I wonder if the guy who saved the day in this sports bar woke up that morning thinking he would need his gun? I wonder if he is glad he put that gun on and carried it with him? Do you think he did so in fear, or in preperation for the odd chance some nut would walk into a sports bar and shoot an employee in front of him....?

Police: Concealed Carry Permit Holder Shoots, Kills 'Active Shooter' - Breitbart

On Wednesday night a concealed carry permit holder shot and killed an alleged “active shooter” at Zona Caliente Sports Bar in Arlington, Texas.
The incident occurred around 6:15 pm. WFAA reported, “A man opened fire at the Zona Caliente Sports Bar… but police say a customer with a gun of his own put a stop to it.”

The man reported to police as an “active shooter” was 48-year-old James Jones. He allegedly walked into Zona Caliente, began arguing with the manager — 37-year-old Cesar Perez — and then pulled out a gun and killed Perez. At that moment a concealed carry permit holder responded by pulling his own gun and killing Jones.

The unidentified permit holder had to come down from “the other end of the bar” to intervene and stop Jones. Arlington Police Department Lt. Christopher Cook said, “[The concealed permit holder] made the decision to engage the shooter, fearing there would be other loss of life.”

Police do not yet have a motive in the shooting of Perez, but they have made clear that the concealed permit holder will face no charges for the actions he took to be sure no other innocents were harmed.


So....concealed carrier stops a killer.....

they are in a sports bar where alcohol is served....

anti gun myth, after anti gun myth just goes away...

He "saved the day"? The manager was shot dead, so whose day did he save?

It could have become a mass shooting.

 

[2aguy]

Hmmm...I wonder if the guy who saved the day in this sports bar woke up that morning thinking he would need his gun? I wonder if he is glad he put that gun on and carried it with him? Do you think he did so in fear, or in preperation for the odd chance some nut would walk into a sports bar and shoot an employee in front of him....?

Police: Concealed Carry Permit Holder Shoots, Kills 'Active Shooter' - Breitbart

On Wednesday night a concealed carry permit holder shot and killed an alleged “active shooter” at Zona Caliente Sports Bar in Arlington, Texas.
The incident occurred around 6:15 pm. WFAA reported, “A man opened fire at the Zona Caliente Sports Bar… but police say a customer with a gun of his own put a stop to it.”

The man reported to police as an “active shooter” was 48-year-old James Jones. He allegedly walked into Zona Caliente, began arguing with the manager — 37-year-old Cesar Perez — and then pulled out a gun and killed Perez. At that moment a concealed carry permit holder responded by pulling his own gun and killing Jones.

The unidentified permit holder had to come down from “the other end of the bar” to intervene and stop Jones. Arlington Police Department Lt. Christopher Cook said, “[The concealed permit holder] made the decision to engage the shooter, fearing there would be other loss of life.”

Police do not yet have a motive in the shooting of Perez, but they have made clear that the concealed permit holder will face no charges for the actions he took to be sure no other innocents were harmed.


So....concealed carrier stops a killer.....

they are in a sports bar where alcohol is served....

anti gun myth, after anti gun myth just goes away...

He "saved the day"? The manager was shot dead, so whose day did he save?

Considering the killer with the gun was in a room filled with innocent people, and he had just killed another human being...how about the rest of the people in the sports bar....

Are you normally this slow?

Nothing suggests that he was going to kill anyone else, he had a beef with the manager, that's it. The second shooter was trigger happy and maybe the first shooter killed a pedophile who raped his daughter, so it would have been a righteous killing.

The fact that he just shot someone suggests it, idiot.

He shot the unarmed manager of the restaurant.......and this guy thinks it was possibly a justified shooting....

Mudda...you show that you know little to nothing about armed self defense...or guns.....there is no situation where drawing your gun and shooting an unarmed man in the middle of a crowded restaurant...filled with witnesses who stated the guy was acting irrationally, is a justified shoot.....

 

[miketx]

Hmmm...I wonder if the guy who saved the day in this sports bar woke up that morning thinking he would need his gun? I wonder if he is glad he put that gun on and carried it with him? Do you think he did so in fear, or in preperation for the odd chance some nut would walk into a sports bar and shoot an employee in front of him....?

Police: Concealed Carry Permit Holder Shoots, Kills 'Active Shooter' - Breitbart

On Wednesday night a concealed carry permit holder shot and killed an alleged “active shooter” at Zona Caliente Sports Bar in Arlington, Texas.
The incident occurred around 6:15 pm. WFAA reported, “A man opened fire at the Zona Caliente Sports Bar… but police say a customer with a gun of his own put a stop to it.”

The man reported to police as an “active shooter” was 48-year-old James Jones. He allegedly walked into Zona Caliente, began arguing with the manager — 37-year-old Cesar Perez — and then pulled out a gun and killed Perez. At that moment a concealed carry permit holder responded by pulling his own gun and killing Jones.

The unidentified permit holder had to come down from “the other end of the bar” to intervene and stop Jones. Arlington Police Department Lt. Christopher Cook said, “[The concealed permit holder] made the decision to engage the shooter, fearing there would be other loss of life.”

Police do not yet have a motive in the shooting of Perez, but they have made clear that the concealed permit holder will face no charges for the actions he took to be sure no other innocents were harmed.


So....concealed carrier stops a killer.....

they are in a sports bar where alcohol is served....

anti gun myth, after anti gun myth just goes away...

He "saved the day"? The manager was shot dead, so whose day did he save?

Considering the killer with the gun was in a room filled with innocent people, and he had just killed another human being...how about the rest of the people in the sports bar....

Are you normally this slow?

Nothing suggests that he was going to kill anyone else, he had a beef with the manager, that's it. The second shooter was trigger happy and maybe the first shooter killed a pedophile who raped his daughter, so it would have been a righteous killing.

The fact that he just shot someone suggests it, idiot.

He shot the unarmed manager of the restaurant.......and this guy thinks it was possibly a justified shooting....

Mudda...you show that you know little to nothing about armed self defense...or guns.....there is no situation where drawing your gun and shooting an unarmed man in the middle of a crowded restaurant...filled with witnesses who stated the guy was acting irrationally, is a justified shoot.....

Listen dude, He saw all he needs to know about guns on Hawaii 5-O

 

[Mudda]

He "saved the day"? The manager was shot dead, so whose day did he save?

Considering the killer with the gun was in a room filled with innocent people, and he had just killed another human being...how about the rest of the people in the sports bar....

Are you normally this slow?

Nothing suggests that he was going to kill anyone else, he had a beef with the manager, that's it. The second shooter was trigger happy and maybe the first shooter killed a pedophile who raped his daughter, so it would have been a righteous killing.

The fact that he just shot someone suggests it, idiot.

The police said that they didn't know why the first shooter fired on the manager. Not everyone who kills someone is a mass murderer. Please try again.

What does the prove? Just because the police don't know why he shot the guy, what does that prove? Does that automatically mean he won't shoot again? A person with a gun that has just murdered someone is an active threat.

So by your thinking, the guy who shot the first guy should have been shot by someone else, and so on... until everyone in the place is dead.

 

[Mudda]

He "saved the day"? The manager was shot dead, so whose day did he save?

Considering the killer with the gun was in a room filled with innocent people, and he had just killed another human being...how about the rest of the people in the sports bar....

Are you normally this slow?

Nothing suggests that he was going to kill anyone else, he had a beef with the manager, that's it. The second shooter was trigger happy and maybe the first shooter killed a pedophile who raped his daughter, so it would have been a righteous killing.

Wow....did you hurt your brain coming up with that one.....

"Police do not yet have a motive in the shooting of Perez," So it could have been a righteous shoot, you simply don't know. Now you do.

They know that he shot a guy he had no relationship to........and considering he went in there, got into an argument with the guy who seemed to be trying to calm him down....then drew a gun on an unarmed man and shot him in cold blood....

Yeah...keep pushing your fairy tale...

So someone would have been within their right to shoot the second killer, and then someone else should shoot that guy...

 

[Mudda]

Hmmm...I wonder if the guy who saved the day in this sports bar woke up that morning thinking he would need his gun? I wonder if he is glad he put that gun on and carried it with him? Do you think he did so in fear, or in preperation for the odd chance some nut would walk into a sports bar and shoot an employee in front of him....?

Police: Concealed Carry Permit Holder Shoots, Kills 'Active Shooter' - Breitbart

On Wednesday night a concealed carry permit holder shot and killed an alleged “active shooter” at Zona Caliente Sports Bar in Arlington, Texas.
The incident occurred around 6:15 pm. WFAA reported, “A man opened fire at the Zona Caliente Sports Bar… but police say a customer with a gun of his own put a stop to it.”

The man reported to police as an “active shooter” was 48-year-old James Jones. He allegedly walked into Zona Caliente, began arguing with the manager — 37-year-old Cesar Perez — and then pulled out a gun and killed Perez. At that moment a concealed carry permit holder responded by pulling his own gun and killing Jones.

The unidentified permit holder had to come down from “the other end of the bar” to intervene and stop Jones. Arlington Police Department Lt. Christopher Cook said, “[The concealed permit holder] made the decision to engage the shooter, fearing there would be other loss of life.”

Police do not yet have a motive in the shooting of Perez, but they have made clear that the concealed permit holder will face no charges for the actions he took to be sure no other innocents were harmed.


So....concealed carrier stops a killer.....

they are in a sports bar where alcohol is served....

anti gun myth, after anti gun myth just goes away...

He "saved the day"? The manager was shot dead, so whose day did he save?

It could have become a mass shooting.

So maybe the second shooter would have become unhinged and do a mass shooting himself, so someone should have shot HIM!

 

[Mudda]

Hmmm...I wonder if the guy who saved the day in this sports bar woke up that morning thinking he would need his gun? I wonder if he is glad he put that gun on and carried it with him? Do you think he did so in fear, or in preperation for the odd chance some nut would walk into a sports bar and shoot an employee in front of him....?

Police: Concealed Carry Permit Holder Shoots, Kills 'Active Shooter' - Breitbart

On Wednesday night a concealed carry permit holder shot and killed an alleged “active shooter” at Zona Caliente Sports Bar in Arlington, Texas.
The incident occurred around 6:15 pm. WFAA reported, “A man opened fire at the Zona Caliente Sports Bar… but police say a customer with a gun of his own put a stop to it.”

The man reported to police as an “active shooter” was 48-year-old James Jones. He allegedly walked into Zona Caliente, began arguing with the manager — 37-year-old Cesar Perez — and then pulled out a gun and killed Perez. At that moment a concealed carry permit holder responded by pulling his own gun and killing Jones.

The unidentified permit holder had to come down from “the other end of the bar” to intervene and stop Jones. Arlington Police Department Lt. Christopher Cook said, “[The concealed permit holder] made the decision to engage the shooter, fearing there would be other loss of life.”

Police do not yet have a motive in the shooting of Perez, but they have made clear that the concealed permit holder will face no charges for the actions he took to be sure no other innocents were harmed.


So....concealed carrier stops a killer.....

they are in a sports bar where alcohol is served....

anti gun myth, after anti gun myth just goes away...

He "saved the day"? The manager was shot dead, so whose day did he save?

Considering the killer with the gun was in a room filled with innocent people, and he had just killed another human being...how about the rest of the people in the sports bar....

Are you normally this slow?

Nothing suggests that he was going to kill anyone else, he had a beef with the manager, that's it. The second shooter was trigger happy and maybe the first shooter killed a pedophile who raped his daughter, so it would have been a righteous killing.

The fact that he just shot someone suggests it, idiot.

He shot the unarmed manager of the restaurant.......and this guy thinks it was possibly a justified shooting....

Mudda...you show that you know little to nothing about armed self defense...or guns.....there is no situation where drawing your gun and shooting an unarmed man in the middle of a crowded restaurant...filled with witnesses who stated the guy was acting irrationally, is a justified shoot.....

Nothing points to it being a mass murder situation. Even you can recognize that.

 

[Mudda]

He "saved the day"? The manager was shot dead, so whose day did he save?

Considering the killer with the gun was in a room filled with innocent people, and he had just killed another human being...how about the rest of the people in the sports bar....

Are you normally this slow?

Nothing suggests that he was going to kill anyone else, he had a beef with the manager, that's it. The second shooter was trigger happy and maybe the first shooter killed a pedophile who raped his daughter, so it would have been a righteous killing.

The fact that he just shot someone suggests it, idiot.

He shot the unarmed manager of the restaurant.......and this guy thinks it was possibly a justified shooting....

Mudda...you show that you know little to nothing about armed self defense...or guns.....there is no situation where drawing your gun and shooting an unarmed man in the middle of a crowded restaurant...filled with witnesses who stated the guy was acting irrationally, is a justified shoot.....

Listen dude, He saw all he needs to know about guns on Hawaii 5-O

Law & Order.

 

[Divine Wind]

Hmmm...I wonder if the guy who saved the day in this sports bar woke up that morning thinking he would need his gun? I wonder if he is glad he put that gun on and carried it with him? Do you think he did so in fear, or in preperation for the odd chance some nut would walk into a sports bar and shoot an employee in front of him....?

Police: Concealed Carry Permit Holder Shoots, Kills 'Active Shooter' - Breitbart

On Wednesday night a concealed carry permit holder shot and killed an alleged “active shooter” at Zona Caliente Sports Bar in Arlington, Texas.
The incident occurred around 6:15 pm. WFAA reported, “A man opened fire at the Zona Caliente Sports Bar… but police say a customer with a gun of his own put a stop to it.”

The man reported to police as an “active shooter” was 48-year-old James Jones. He allegedly walked into Zona Caliente, began arguing with the manager — 37-year-old Cesar Perez — and then pulled out a gun and killed Perez. At that moment a concealed carry permit holder responded by pulling his own gun and killing Jones.

The unidentified permit holder had to come down from “the other end of the bar” to intervene and stop Jones. Arlington Police Department Lt. Christopher Cook said, “[The concealed permit holder] made the decision to engage the shooter, fearing there would be other loss of life.”

Police do not yet have a motive in the shooting of Perez, but they have made clear that the concealed permit holder will face no charges for the actions he took to be sure no other innocents were harmed.


So....concealed carrier stops a killer.....

they are in a sports bar where alcohol is served....

anti gun myth, after anti gun myth just goes away...

He "saved the day"? The manager was shot dead, so whose day did he save?

It could have become a mass shooting.

So maybe the second shooter would have become unhinged and do a mass shooting himself, so someone should have shot HIM!

Be honest, you want to ban all guns from private hands so only the police and the military are armed. Amirite?

 

[Silent Warrior]

To an idiot lib like mudda, the fact he shot one doesn't mean he would shoot two. If he shot two it doesn't mean he would shoot three. If he shot three it doesn't mean he would shoot four. Etc, etc, etc. This type of idiot will always defend the perp and denigrate the hero. I think it makes them feel better about their insignificant lives.

 

[The Professor]

The shooter might have legal problems. In Texas, as in most other states, it is illegal to carry a concealed weapon into a bar. Here is the relevant Texas Statue:

GC §411.204. NOTICE REQUIRED ON CERTAIN PREMISES

(a) A business that has a permit or license issued under Chapter 25, 28, 32,
69, or 74, Alcoholic Beverage Code, and that derives 51 percent or more of its
income from the sale of alcoholic beverages for on-premises consumption as
determined by the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission under Section 104.06,
Alcoholic Beverage Code, shall prominently display at each entrance to the
business premises a sign that complies with the requirements of Subsection (c).

(b) A hospital licensed under Chapter 241, Health and Safety Code, or a nursing
home licensed under Chapter 242, Health and Safety Code, shall prominently
display at each entrance to the hospital or nursing home, as appropriate, a sign
that complies with the requirements of Subsection (c) other than the requirement
that the sign include on its face the number “51”.

(c) The sign required under Subsections (a) and (b) must give notice in
both English and Spanish that it is unlawful for a person licensed under this
subchapter to carry a handgun on the premises.

https://www.dps.texas.gov/internetforms/Forms/CHL-16.pdf

CAUTION: Gun laws vary from state to state and are sometimes confusing. In Florida where I live even if you have a permit you cannot carry a weapon into a place whose primary purpose is serving alcoholic beverages. This means that you can carry into a liquor store since they sell liquor but don't serve it. You can also go into a restaurant and order a drink with your dinner since the primary purpose of the restaurant is to serve food, not alcohol. However, if you go into the bar to have a plain coke you have broken the law.

 

[2aguy]

Considering the killer with the gun was in a room filled with innocent people, and he had just killed another human being...how about the rest of the people in the sports bar....

Are you normally this slow?

Nothing suggests that he was going to kill anyone else, he had a beef with the manager, that's it. The second shooter was trigger happy and maybe the first shooter killed a pedophile who raped his daughter, so it would have been a righteous killing.

Wow....did you hurt your brain coming up with that one.....

"Police do not yet have a motive in the shooting of Perez," So it could have been a righteous shoot, you simply don't know. Now you do.

They know that he shot a guy he had no relationship to........and considering he went in there, got into an argument with the guy who seemed to be trying to calm him down....then drew a gun on an unarmed man and shot him in cold blood....

Yeah...keep pushing your fairy tale...

So someone would have been within their right to shoot the second killer, and then someone else should shoot that guy...

Did you read the actual news story. The guy walked into the sports bar.....and started a heated dispute with the manager of the bar who witnesses stated tried to calm the guy down. The guy then drew a gun on the unarmed man and shot him dead.

Did you fail to read that part of the story? Where he drew his gun and shot the unarmed man to death in front of witnesses?

And you want to play stupid and post what you posted...really?

 

[2aguy]

The shooter might have legal problems. In Texas, as in most other states, it is illegal to carry a concealed weapon into a bar. Here is the relevant Texas Statue:

GC §411.204. NOTICE REQUIRED ON CERTAIN PREMISES

(a) A business that has a permit or license issued under Chapter 25, 28, 32,
69, or 74, Alcoholic Beverage Code, and that derives 51 percent or more of its
income from the sale of alcoholic beverages for on-premises consumption as
determined by the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission under Section 104.06,
Alcoholic Beverage Code, shall prominently display at each entrance to the
business premises a sign that complies with the requirements of Subsection (c).

(b) A hospital licensed under Chapter 241, Health and Safety Code, or a nursing
home licensed under Chapter 242, Health and Safety Code, shall prominently
display at each entrance to the hospital or nursing home, as appropriate, a sign
that complies with the requirements of Subsection (c) other than the requirement
that the sign include on its face the number “51”.

(c) The sign required under Subsections (a) and (b) must give notice in
both English and Spanish that it is unlawful for a person licensed under this
subchapter to carry a handgun on the premises.

https://www.dps.texas.gov/internetforms/Forms/CHL-16.pdf

CAUTION: Gun laws vary from state to state and are sometimes confusing. In Florida where I live even if you have a permit you cannot carry a weapon into a place whose primary purpose is serving alcoholic beverages. This means that you can carry into a liquor store since they sell liquor but don't serve it. You can also go into a restaurant and order a drink with your dinner since the primary purpose of the restaurant is to serve food, not alcohol. However, if you go into the bar to have a plain coke you have broken the law.

At the time of the news article they didn't say if the guy was in legal trouble....maybe the district attorney will have more sense than others of his kind....

 

[Divine Wind]

The shooter might have legal problems. In Texas, as in most other states, it is illegal to carry a concealed weapon into a bar. Here is the relevant Texas Statue:

GC §411.204. NOTICE REQUIRED ON CERTAIN PREMISES

(a) A business that has a permit or license issued under Chapter 25, 28, 32,
69, or 74, Alcoholic Beverage Code, and that derives 51 percent or more of its
income from the sale of alcoholic beverages for on-premises consumption as
determined by the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission under Section 104.06,
Alcoholic Beverage Code, shall prominently display at each entrance to the
business premises a sign that complies with the requirements of Subsection (c).

(b) A hospital licensed under Chapter 241, Health and Safety Code, or a nursing
home licensed under Chapter 242, Health and Safety Code, shall prominently
display at each entrance to the hospital or nursing home, as appropriate, a sign
that complies with the requirements of Subsection (c) other than the requirement
that the sign include on its face the number “51”.

(c) The sign required under Subsections (a) and (b) must give notice in
both English and Spanish that it is unlawful for a person licensed under this
subchapter to carry a handgun on the premises.

https://www.dps.texas.gov/internetforms/Forms/CHL-16.pdf

CAUTION: Gun laws vary from state to state and are sometimes confusing. In Florida where I live even if you have a permit you cannot carry a weapon into a place whose primary purpose is serving alcoholic beverages. This means that you can carry into a liquor store since they sell liquor but don't serve it. You can also go into a restaurant and order a drink with your dinner since the primary purpose of the restaurant is to serve food, not alcohol. However, if you go into the bar to have a plain coke you have broken the law.

At the time of the news article they didn't say if the guy was in legal trouble....maybe the district attorney will have more sense than others of his kind....

If he violated the law, then yes, he should be in trouble.

However "sports bar" usually means 51% of their revenue is food, so, as long as he wasn't drinking, he should be good.

 

[Mudda]

Hmmm...I wonder if the guy who saved the day in this sports bar woke up that morning thinking he would need his gun? I wonder if he is glad he put that gun on and carried it with him? Do you think he did so in fear, or in preperation for the odd chance some nut would walk into a sports bar and shoot an employee in front of him....?

Police: Concealed Carry Permit Holder Shoots, Kills 'Active Shooter' - Breitbart

On Wednesday night a concealed carry permit holder shot and killed an alleged “active shooter” at Zona Caliente Sports Bar in Arlington, Texas.
The incident occurred around 6:15 pm. WFAA reported, “A man opened fire at the Zona Caliente Sports Bar… but police say a customer with a gun of his own put a stop to it.”

The man reported to police as an “active shooter” was 48-year-old James Jones. He allegedly walked into Zona Caliente, began arguing with the manager — 37-year-old Cesar Perez — and then pulled out a gun and killed Perez. At that moment a concealed carry permit holder responded by pulling his own gun and killing Jones.

The unidentified permit holder had to come down from “the other end of the bar” to intervene and stop Jones. Arlington Police Department Lt. Christopher Cook said, “[The concealed permit holder] made the decision to engage the shooter, fearing there would be other loss of life.”

Police do not yet have a motive in the shooting of Perez, but they have made clear that the concealed permit holder will face no charges for the actions he took to be sure no other innocents were harmed.


So....concealed carrier stops a killer.....

they are in a sports bar where alcohol is served....

anti gun myth, after anti gun myth just goes away...

He "saved the day"? The manager was shot dead, so whose day did he save?

It could have become a mass shooting.

So maybe the second shooter would have become unhinged and do a mass shooting himself, so someone should have shot HIM!

Be honest, you want to ban all guns from private hands so only the police and the military are armed. Amirite?

Nope.

 

[Mudda]

Nothing suggests that he was going to kill anyone else, he had a beef with the manager, that's it. The second shooter was trigger happy and maybe the first shooter killed a pedophile who raped his daughter, so it would have been a righteous killing.

Wow....did you hurt your brain coming up with that one.....

"Police do not yet have a motive in the shooting of Perez," So it could have been a righteous shoot, you simply don't know. Now you do.

They know that he shot a guy he had no relationship to........and considering he went in there, got into an argument with the guy who seemed to be trying to calm him down....then drew a gun on an unarmed man and shot him in cold blood....

Yeah...keep pushing your fairy tale...

So someone would have been within their right to shoot the second killer, and then someone else should shoot that guy...

Did you read the actual news story. The guy walked into the sports bar.....and started a heated dispute with the manager of the bar who witnesses stated tried to calm the guy down. The guy then drew a gun on the unarmed man and shot him dead.

Did you fail to read that part of the story? Where he drew his gun and shot the unarmed man to death in front of witnesses?

And you want to play stupid and post what you posted...really?

It was vigilante justice from a trigger happy wannabe cowboy.