Gun owner, with concealed gun, shoots killer in a sports bar...where they serve alcohol...

[Skull Pilot]

Hmmm...I wonder if the guy who saved the day in this sports bar woke up that morning thinking he would need his gun? I wonder if he is glad he put that gun on and carried it with him? Do you think he did so in fear, or in preperation for the odd chance some nut would walk into a sports bar and shoot an employee in front of him....?

Police: Concealed Carry Permit Holder Shoots, Kills 'Active Shooter' - Breitbart

On Wednesday night a concealed carry permit holder shot and killed an alleged “active shooter” at Zona Caliente Sports Bar in Arlington, Texas.
The incident occurred around 6:15 pm. WFAA reported, “A man opened fire at the Zona Caliente Sports Bar… but police say a customer with a gun of his own put a stop to it.”

The man reported to police as an “active shooter” was 48-year-old James Jones. He allegedly walked into Zona Caliente, began arguing with the manager — 37-year-old Cesar Perez — and then pulled out a gun and killed Perez. At that moment a concealed carry permit holder responded by pulling his own gun and killing Jones.

The unidentified permit holder had to come down from “the other end of the bar” to intervene and stop Jones. Arlington Police Department Lt. Christopher Cook said, “[The concealed permit holder] made the decision to engage the shooter, fearing there would be other loss of life.”

Police do not yet have a motive in the shooting of Perez, but they have made clear that the concealed permit holder will face no charges for the actions he took to be sure no other innocents were harmed.


So....concealed carrier stops a killer.....

they are in a sports bar where alcohol is served....

anti gun myth, after anti gun myth just goes away...

He "saved the day"? The manager was shot dead, so whose day did he save?

Considering the killer with the gun was in a room filled with innocent people, and he had just killed another human being...how about the rest of the people in the sports bar....

Are you normally this slow?

Nothing suggests that he was going to kill anyone else, he had a beef with the manager, that's it. The second shooter was trigger happy and maybe the first shooter killed a pedophile who raped his daughter, so it would have been a righteous killing.

since when is it righteous to shoot an unarmed man?

 

[Skull Pilot]

Hmmm...I wonder if the guy who saved the day in this sports bar woke up that morning thinking he would need his gun? I wonder if he is glad he put that gun on and carried it with him? Do you think he did so in fear, or in preperation for the odd chance some nut would walk into a sports bar and shoot an employee in front of him....?

Police: Concealed Carry Permit Holder Shoots, Kills 'Active Shooter' - Breitbart

On Wednesday night a concealed carry permit holder shot and killed an alleged “active shooter” at Zona Caliente Sports Bar in Arlington, Texas.
The incident occurred around 6:15 pm. WFAA reported, “A man opened fire at the Zona Caliente Sports Bar… but police say a customer with a gun of his own put a stop to it.”

The man reported to police as an “active shooter” was 48-year-old James Jones. He allegedly walked into Zona Caliente, began arguing with the manager — 37-year-old Cesar Perez — and then pulled out a gun and killed Perez. At that moment a concealed carry permit holder responded by pulling his own gun and killing Jones.

The unidentified permit holder had to come down from “the other end of the bar” to intervene and stop Jones. Arlington Police Department Lt. Christopher Cook said, “[The concealed permit holder] made the decision to engage the shooter, fearing there would be other loss of life.”

Police do not yet have a motive in the shooting of Perez, but they have made clear that the concealed permit holder will face no charges for the actions he took to be sure no other innocents were harmed.


So....concealed carrier stops a killer.....

they are in a sports bar where alcohol is served....

anti gun myth, after anti gun myth just goes away...

He "saved the day"? The manager was shot dead, so whose day did he save?

Considering the killer with the gun was in a room filled with innocent people, and he had just killed another human being...how about the rest of the people in the sports bar....

Are you normally this slow?

Nothing suggests that he was going to kill anyone else, he had a beef with the manager, that's it. The second shooter was trigger happy and maybe the first shooter killed a pedophile who raped his daughter, so it would have been a righteous killing.

The fact that he just shot someone suggests it, idiot.

The police said that they didn't know why the first shooter fired on the manager. Not everyone who kills someone is a mass murderer. Please try again.

and you don't make assumptions as to the behavior of a murderer

 

[Skull Pilot]

He "saved the day"? The manager was shot dead, so whose day did he save?

Considering the killer with the gun was in a room filled with innocent people, and he had just killed another human being...how about the rest of the people in the sports bar....

Are you normally this slow?

Nothing suggests that he was going to kill anyone else, he had a beef with the manager, that's it. The second shooter was trigger happy and maybe the first shooter killed a pedophile who raped his daughter, so it would have been a righteous killing.

The fact that he just shot someone suggests it, idiot.

He shot the unarmed manager of the restaurant.......and this guy thinks it was possibly a justified shooting....

Mudda...you show that you know little to nothing about armed self defense...or guns.....there is no situation where drawing your gun and shooting an unarmed man in the middle of a crowded restaurant...filled with witnesses who stated the guy was acting irrationally, is a justified shoot.....

Nothing points to it being a mass murder situation. Even you can recognize that.

only because the piece of shit was put down before he had the chance to kill anyone else

 

[Skull Pilot]

To an idiot lib like mudda, the fact he shot one doesn't mean he would shoot two. If he shot two it doesn't mean he would shoot three. If he shot three it doesn't mean he would shoot four. Etc, etc, etc. This type of idiot will always defend the perp and denigrate the hero. I think it makes them feel better about their insignificant lives.

It`s funny that you would mention "insignificant lives". Guns make a nobody feel like a somebody.

only people who are afraid of guns say such nonsense

a gun is a tool like any other I suppose you think a chainsaw or a drill make people feel like a somebody too right?

 

[Skull Pilot]

To an idiot lib like mudda, the fact he shot one doesn't mean he would shoot two. If he shot two it doesn't mean he would shoot three. If he shot three it doesn't mean he would shoot four. Etc, etc, etc. This type of idiot will always defend the perp and denigrate the hero. I think it makes them feel better about their insignificant lives.

The original shooter had a beef with one guy, nothing suggests that he would shoot anyone else, that's all a fantasy you've made up for yourself that is based solely on your imagination.

How do you know? Do you have a link proving your assertion that the shooter only had a beef with the manager and wasn't going to shoot anyone else?

Why are you defending the shooter from being shot by another person?

He's a lib that's why. They love criminals.

Libs love criminals? Wrong. It`s people like you that want them to have guns along with the mentally ill and terror suspects. Good job! You assholes must really hate this country.

then why don't you want to keep violent criminals in jail?

who here ever said they want criminals to have guns anyway?

 

[Correll]

Hmmm...I wonder if the guy who saved the day in this sports bar woke up that morning thinking he would need his gun? I wonder if he is glad he put that gun on and carried it with him? Do you think he did so in fear, or in preperation for the odd chance some nut would walk into a sports bar and shoot an employee in front of him....?

Police: Concealed Carry Permit Holder Shoots, Kills 'Active Shooter' - Breitbart

On Wednesday night a concealed carry permit holder shot and killed an alleged “active shooter” at Zona Caliente Sports Bar in Arlington, Texas.
The incident occurred around 6:15 pm. WFAA reported, “A man opened fire at the Zona Caliente Sports Bar… but police say a customer with a gun of his own put a stop to it.”

The man reported to police as an “active shooter” was 48-year-old James Jones. He allegedly walked into Zona Caliente, began arguing with the manager — 37-year-old Cesar Perez — and then pulled out a gun and killed Perez. At that moment a concealed carry permit holder responded by pulling his own gun and killing Jones.

The unidentified permit holder had to come down from “the other end of the bar” to intervene and stop Jones. Arlington Police Department Lt. Christopher Cook said, “[The concealed permit holder] made the decision to engage the shooter, fearing there would be other loss of life.”

Police do not yet have a motive in the shooting of Perez, but they have made clear that the concealed permit holder will face no charges for the actions he took to be sure no other innocents were harmed.


So....concealed carrier stops a killer.....

they are in a sports bar where alcohol is served....

anti gun myth, after anti gun myth just goes away...

Excellent news. Plenty of good people carry guns into bars.

 

[Divine Wind]

The original shooter had a beef with one guy, nothing suggests that he would shoot anyone else, that's all a fantasy you've made up for yourself that is based solely on your imagination.

How do you know? Do you have a link proving your assertion that the shooter only had a beef with the manager and wasn't going to shoot anyone else?

Why are you defending the shooter from being shot by another person?

He's a lib that's why. They love criminals.

Libertarian.

How can you be a Libertarian if you are for big government controlling guns and denying citizens their right to have them?

Why are you so defensive of the man who committed murder, yet attack the man who stopped him?

First of all, you failed to show that I am against gun ownership, because I'm not.
Secondly, "yet attack the man who stopped him". Nobody was stopped, the first guy was shot after he had already killed his intended victim.
You must be living in a dream world.

Thanks for proving my point; you are against gun rights, cannot support the man who shot the murderer and you refuse to even consider the possibility that the man who shot the murderer may have prevented an even greater tragedy.

Please get back to me when you can prove, or even have evidence of, that the murderer was only going to commit one murder that night.

 

[Divine Wind]

He "saved the day"? The manager was shot dead, so whose day did he save?

Considering the killer with the gun was in a room filled with innocent people, and he had just killed another human being...how about the rest of the people in the sports bar....

Are you normally this slow?

Nothing suggests that he was going to kill anyone else, he had a beef with the manager, that's it. The second shooter was trigger happy and maybe the first shooter killed a pedophile who raped his daughter, so it would have been a righteous killing.

The fact that he just shot someone suggests it, idiot.

The police said that they didn't know why the first shooter fired on the manager. Not everyone who kills someone is a mass murderer. Please try again.

and you don't make assumptions as to the behavior of a murderer

It appears the anti-gun mob does, indeed, make assumptions about the behaviors of murderers when it suits their agenda.

Funny, but sad, that Mudda claims to support the Second Amendment, but won't even consider the positive aspects of a CCW citizen shooting a murderer before that murderer can commit further crimes.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Considering the killer with the gun was in a room filled with innocent people, and he had just killed another human being...how about the rest of the people in the sports bar....

Are you normally this slow?

Nothing suggests that he was going to kill anyone else, he had a beef with the manager, that's it. The second shooter was trigger happy and maybe the first shooter killed a pedophile who raped his daughter, so it would have been a righteous killing.

The fact that he just shot someone suggests it, idiot.

The police said that they didn't know why the first shooter fired on the manager. Not everyone who kills someone is a mass murderer. Please try again.

and you don't make assumptions as to the behavior of a murderer

It appears the anti-gun mob does, indeed, make assumptions about the behaviors of murderers when it suits their agenda.

Funny, but sad, that Mudda claims to support the Second Amendment, but won't even consider the positive aspects of a CCW citizen shooting a murderer before that murderer can commit further crimes.

I wonder if a piece of shit criminal broke into Mudda's house and shot his wife he would just assume said piece of shit would not shoot anyone else

 

[miketx]

Nothing suggests that he was going to kill anyone else, he had a beef with the manager, that's it. The second shooter was trigger happy and maybe the first shooter killed a pedophile who raped his daughter, so it would have been a righteous killing.

The fact that he just shot someone suggests it, idiot.

The police said that they didn't know why the first shooter fired on the manager. Not everyone who kills someone is a mass murderer. Please try again.

and you don't make assumptions as to the behavior of a murderer

It appears the anti-gun mob does, indeed, make assumptions about the behaviors of murderers when it suits their agenda.

Funny, but sad, that Mudda claims to support the Second Amendment, but won't even consider the positive aspects of a CCW citizen shooting a murderer before that murderer can commit further crimes.

I wonder if a piece of shit criminal broke into Mudda's house and shot his wife he would just assume said piece of shit would not shoot anyone else

The liberal rule book would come into play. if the criminal was not white (any race but white) then mutha would know that the pos had every right to do what he did. If the pos was white mutha would shoot him before he could kill again.

 

[Mudda]

Hmmm...I wonder if the guy who saved the day in this sports bar woke up that morning thinking he would need his gun? I wonder if he is glad he put that gun on and carried it with him? Do you think he did so in fear, or in preperation for the odd chance some nut would walk into a sports bar and shoot an employee in front of him....?

Police: Concealed Carry Permit Holder Shoots, Kills 'Active Shooter' - Breitbart

On Wednesday night a concealed carry permit holder shot and killed an alleged “active shooter” at Zona Caliente Sports Bar in Arlington, Texas.
The incident occurred around 6:15 pm. WFAA reported, “A man opened fire at the Zona Caliente Sports Bar… but police say a customer with a gun of his own put a stop to it.”

The man reported to police as an “active shooter” was 48-year-old James Jones. He allegedly walked into Zona Caliente, began arguing with the manager — 37-year-old Cesar Perez — and then pulled out a gun and killed Perez. At that moment a concealed carry permit holder responded by pulling his own gun and killing Jones.

The unidentified permit holder had to come down from “the other end of the bar” to intervene and stop Jones. Arlington Police Department Lt. Christopher Cook said, “[The concealed permit holder] made the decision to engage the shooter, fearing there would be other loss of life.”

Police do not yet have a motive in the shooting of Perez, but they have made clear that the concealed permit holder will face no charges for the actions he took to be sure no other innocents were harmed.


So....concealed carrier stops a killer.....

they are in a sports bar where alcohol is served....

anti gun myth, after anti gun myth just goes away...

He "saved the day"? The manager was shot dead, so whose day did he save?

so tell me how you know the piece of shit murderer would have stopped after just shooting one person?

He had a beef with one guy whom he shot. Nothing in the story suggests that he would have gone on a rampage.

 

[Mudda]

Hmmm...I wonder if the guy who saved the day in this sports bar woke up that morning thinking he would need his gun? I wonder if he is glad he put that gun on and carried it with him? Do you think he did so in fear, or in preperation for the odd chance some nut would walk into a sports bar and shoot an employee in front of him....?

Police: Concealed Carry Permit Holder Shoots, Kills 'Active Shooter' - Breitbart

On Wednesday night a concealed carry permit holder shot and killed an alleged “active shooter” at Zona Caliente Sports Bar in Arlington, Texas.
The incident occurred around 6:15 pm. WFAA reported, “A man opened fire at the Zona Caliente Sports Bar… but police say a customer with a gun of his own put a stop to it.”

The man reported to police as an “active shooter” was 48-year-old James Jones. He allegedly walked into Zona Caliente, began arguing with the manager — 37-year-old Cesar Perez — and then pulled out a gun and killed Perez. At that moment a concealed carry permit holder responded by pulling his own gun and killing Jones.

The unidentified permit holder had to come down from “the other end of the bar” to intervene and stop Jones. Arlington Police Department Lt. Christopher Cook said, “[The concealed permit holder] made the decision to engage the shooter, fearing there would be other loss of life.”

Police do not yet have a motive in the shooting of Perez, but they have made clear that the concealed permit holder will face no charges for the actions he took to be sure no other innocents were harmed.


So....concealed carrier stops a killer.....

they are in a sports bar where alcohol is served....

anti gun myth, after anti gun myth just goes away...

He "saved the day"? The manager was shot dead, so whose day did he save?

Considering the killer with the gun was in a room filled with innocent people, and he had just killed another human being...how about the rest of the people in the sports bar....

Are you normally this slow?

Nothing suggests that he was going to kill anyone else, he had a beef with the manager, that's it. The second shooter was trigger happy and maybe the first shooter killed a pedophile who raped his daughter, so it would have been a righteous killing.

since when is it righteous to shoot an unarmed man?

If someone raped his daughter, (or even killed her) maybe he felt justified. I know I wouldn't care if the s.o.b. was armed or not.

 

[miketx]

Hmmm...I wonder if the guy who saved the day in this sports bar woke up that morning thinking he would need his gun? I wonder if he is glad he put that gun on and carried it with him? Do you think he did so in fear, or in preperation for the odd chance some nut would walk into a sports bar and shoot an employee in front of him....?

Police: Concealed Carry Permit Holder Shoots, Kills 'Active Shooter' - Breitbart

On Wednesday night a concealed carry permit holder shot and killed an alleged “active shooter” at Zona Caliente Sports Bar in Arlington, Texas.
The incident occurred around 6:15 pm. WFAA reported, “A man opened fire at the Zona Caliente Sports Bar… but police say a customer with a gun of his own put a stop to it.”

The man reported to police as an “active shooter” was 48-year-old James Jones. He allegedly walked into Zona Caliente, began arguing with the manager — 37-year-old Cesar Perez — and then pulled out a gun and killed Perez. At that moment a concealed carry permit holder responded by pulling his own gun and killing Jones.

The unidentified permit holder had to come down from “the other end of the bar” to intervene and stop Jones. Arlington Police Department Lt. Christopher Cook said, “[The concealed permit holder] made the decision to engage the shooter, fearing there would be other loss of life.”

Police do not yet have a motive in the shooting of Perez, but they have made clear that the concealed permit holder will face no charges for the actions he took to be sure no other innocents were harmed.


So....concealed carrier stops a killer.....

they are in a sports bar where alcohol is served....

anti gun myth, after anti gun myth just goes away...

He "saved the day"? The manager was shot dead, so whose day did he save?

so tell me how you know the piece of shit murderer would have stopped after just shooting one person?

He had a beef with one guy whom he shot. Nothing in the story suggests that he would have gone on a rampage.

Oh no? I'd have to say the bullet leaving the gun the pos was holding and killing the man is clear indication of intent.

 

[RealDave]

Read the story, jackass.

There was no indication the man would have shot anyone else.

Your hero shot the back in the back & the guy then fired many other shots. Luckily, mote people were not killed.

Now, lets talk about all the innocent people killed by toters who were too stupid not to keep their guns away rom children.

 

[miketx]

Read the story, jackass.

There was no indication the man would have shot anyone else.

Your hero shot the back in the back & the guy then fired many other shots. Luckily, mote people were not killed.

Now, lets talk about all the innocent people killed by toters who were too stupid not to keep their guns away rom children.

Aww Dave, you can lie about whatever you wish. But the fact that guy shot and killed a man and might certainly have killed others is a fact. no court will convict this hero, no matter how many children you attempt to bring into your pathetic attempt to protect a killer.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Hmmm...I wonder if the guy who saved the day in this sports bar woke up that morning thinking he would need his gun? I wonder if he is glad he put that gun on and carried it with him? Do you think he did so in fear, or in preperation for the odd chance some nut would walk into a sports bar and shoot an employee in front of him....?

Police: Concealed Carry Permit Holder Shoots, Kills 'Active Shooter' - Breitbart

On Wednesday night a concealed carry permit holder shot and killed an alleged “active shooter” at Zona Caliente Sports Bar in Arlington, Texas.
The incident occurred around 6:15 pm. WFAA reported, “A man opened fire at the Zona Caliente Sports Bar… but police say a customer with a gun of his own put a stop to it.”

The man reported to police as an “active shooter” was 48-year-old James Jones. He allegedly walked into Zona Caliente, began arguing with the manager — 37-year-old Cesar Perez — and then pulled out a gun and killed Perez. At that moment a concealed carry permit holder responded by pulling his own gun and killing Jones.

The unidentified permit holder had to come down from “the other end of the bar” to intervene and stop Jones. Arlington Police Department Lt. Christopher Cook said, “[The concealed permit holder] made the decision to engage the shooter, fearing there would be other loss of life.”

Police do not yet have a motive in the shooting of Perez, but they have made clear that the concealed permit holder will face no charges for the actions he took to be sure no other innocents were harmed.


So....concealed carrier stops a killer.....

they are in a sports bar where alcohol is served....

anti gun myth, after anti gun myth just goes away...

He "saved the day"? The manager was shot dead, so whose day did he save?

so tell me how you know the piece of shit murderer would have stopped after just shooting one person?

He had a beef with one guy whom he shot. Nothing in the story suggests that he would have gone on a rampage.

and you don't know if he would have shot anyone else when trying to run from the scene of the murder

you can't see the future can you?

 

[Skull Pilot]

Read the story, jackass.

There was no indication the man would have shot anyone else.

Your hero shot the back in the back & the guy then fired many other shots. Luckily, mote people were not killed.

Now, lets talk about all the innocent people killed by toters who were too stupid not to keep their guns away rom children.

and you would have bet your life on that if you were in the bar and some piece of shit murderer shoots a guy in cold blood right in front of you?

 

[tycho1572]

Here's another great example of why our second amendment is so important.....

 

[Skull Pilot]

Hmmm...I wonder if the guy who saved the day in this sports bar woke up that morning thinking he would need his gun? I wonder if he is glad he put that gun on and carried it with him? Do you think he did so in fear, or in preperation for the odd chance some nut would walk into a sports bar and shoot an employee in front of him....?

Police: Concealed Carry Permit Holder Shoots, Kills 'Active Shooter' - Breitbart

On Wednesday night a concealed carry permit holder shot and killed an alleged “active shooter” at Zona Caliente Sports Bar in Arlington, Texas.
The incident occurred around 6:15 pm. WFAA reported, “A man opened fire at the Zona Caliente Sports Bar… but police say a customer with a gun of his own put a stop to it.”

The man reported to police as an “active shooter” was 48-year-old James Jones. He allegedly walked into Zona Caliente, began arguing with the manager — 37-year-old Cesar Perez — and then pulled out a gun and killed Perez. At that moment a concealed carry permit holder responded by pulling his own gun and killing Jones.

The unidentified permit holder had to come down from “the other end of the bar” to intervene and stop Jones. Arlington Police Department Lt. Christopher Cook said, “[The concealed permit holder] made the decision to engage the shooter, fearing there would be other loss of life.”

Police do not yet have a motive in the shooting of Perez, but they have made clear that the concealed permit holder will face no charges for the actions he took to be sure no other innocents were harmed.


So....concealed carrier stops a killer.....

they are in a sports bar where alcohol is served....

anti gun myth, after anti gun myth just goes away...

He "saved the day"? The manager was shot dead, so whose day did he save?

Considering the killer with the gun was in a room filled with innocent people, and he had just killed another human being...how about the rest of the people in the sports bar....

Are you normally this slow?

Nothing suggests that he was going to kill anyone else, he had a beef with the manager, that's it. The second shooter was trigger happy and maybe the first shooter killed a pedophile who raped his daughter, so it would have been a righteous killing.

since when is it righteous to shoot an unarmed man?

If someone raped his daughter, (or even killed her) maybe he felt justified. I know I wouldn't care if the s.o.b. was armed or not.

so you are OK with shooting an unarmed man

no wonder you feel sad that this piece of shit murderer is dead

 

[Mudda]

How do you know? Do you have a link proving your assertion that the shooter only had a beef with the manager and wasn't going to shoot anyone else?

Why are you defending the shooter from being shot by another person?

He's a lib that's why. They love criminals.

Libertarian.

How can you be a Libertarian if you are for big government controlling guns and denying citizens their right to have them?

Why are you so defensive of the man who committed murder, yet attack the man who stopped him?

First of all, you failed to show that I am against gun ownership, because I'm not.
Secondly, "yet attack the man who stopped him". Nobody was stopped, the first guy was shot after he had already killed his intended victim.
You must be living in a dream world.

Thanks for proving my point; you are against gun rights, cannot support the man who shot the murderer and you refuse to even consider the possibility that the man who shot the murderer may have prevented an even greater tragedy.

Please get back to me when you can prove, or even have evidence of, that the murderer was only going to commit one murder that night.

The first shooter may very well have put the gun down and waited for police to come. We'll never know. And you can't prove otherwise.