Gun research being kept in the dark ages

[Luddly Neddite]

Police kill armed 14-year-old boy on NYC street

Give citizens and lawmakers information to make smart decisions....

In the 1980s and 1990s, researchers studied what happens when people buy guns to protect themselves and their families. You might think they'd be safer, but studies concluded it's actually far more likely that a gun kept in the home would be involved in a suicide, a domestic homicide or an accidental shooting than to shoot an intruder.

Those findings predictably enraged gun groups such as the NRA, which responded by attacking the research and the researchers. Since 1996, under the influence of gun groups, Congress has essentially shut down government-funded research about guns, taking away money from a Centers for Disease Control and Prevention division that funded firearms studies and forbidding any government-funded investigation that would "advocate or promote gun control." The result: Much of the policy debate over guns has taken place in an information vacuum. It's time to start filling that void.

There's a link to an opposing pov at the above link.

So what do you think? Do want to know facts or should we just believe the nutters who say more guns is the answer to everything?

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Sorry about the incorrect link. Leaving it because its related in that its a case where ore guns wasn't the answer.

Gun research being kept in the Dark Ages: Our view

 

[The Rabbi]

Police kill armed 14-year-old boy on NYC street

Give citizens and lawmakers information to make smart decisions....

In the 1980s and 1990s, researchers studied what happens when people buy guns to protect themselves and their families. You might think they'd be safer, but studies concluded it's actually far more likely that a gun kept in the home would be involved in a suicide, a domestic homicide or an accidental shooting than to shoot an intruder.

Those findings predictably enraged gun groups such as the NRA, which responded by attacking the research and the researchers. Since 1996, under the influence of gun groups, Congress has essentially shut down government-funded research about guns, taking away money from a Centers for Disease Control and Prevention division that funded firearms studies and forbidding any government-funded investigation that would "advocate or promote gun control." The result: Much of the policy debate over guns has taken place in an information vacuum. It's time to start filling that void.

There's a link to an opposing pov at the above link.

So what do you think? Do want to know facts or should we just believe the nutters who say more guns is the answer to everything?

There are no "facts" for the antis. There is only propaganda supported by factoids like a home with a gun is 42% more likely to have a murder.
Totally debunked.

 

[Missourian]

Police kill armed 14-year-old boy on NYC street

Give citizens and lawmakers information to make smart decisions....

In the 1980s and 1990s, researchers studied what happens when people buy guns to protect themselves and their families. You might think they'd be safer, but studies concluded it's actually far more likely that a gun kept in the home would be involved in a suicide, a domestic homicide or an accidental shooting than to shoot an intruder.

Those findings predictably enraged gun groups such as the NRA, which responded by attacking the research and the researchers. Since 1996, under the influence of gun groups, Congress has essentially shut down government-funded research about guns, taking away money from a Centers for Disease Control and Prevention division that funded firearms studies and forbidding any government-funded investigation that would "advocate or promote gun control." The result: Much of the policy debate over guns has taken place in an information vacuum. It's time to start filling that void.

There's a link to an opposing pov at the above link.

So what do you think? Do want to know facts or should we just believe the nutters who say more guns is the answer to everything?

Feel free to fund private research luddly if you don't like the research that is being undertaken.

Here are the facts.

Fact one, there are more guns.

Fact two, the is significantly more guns carried daily by private individuals.

Fact three, homicides, crime and violent crime are at or near historical lows.

What more do you want to know?

That people kill themselves with guns?

People kill themselves with guns...now you know.

They also kill themselves with rope, Tylenol, pain killers, poison, carbon monoxide and jumping from bridges.

Just in case you were next going to advocate taxpayer funded research into the effect of building skyscrappers on leaping suicides, they do that too.

 

[hortysir]

Police kill armed 14-year-old boy on NYC street

Give citizens and lawmakers information to make smart decisions....

In the 1980s and 1990s, researchers studied what happens when people buy guns to protect themselves and their families. You might think they'd be safer, but studies concluded it's actually far more likely that a gun kept in the home would be involved in a suicide, a domestic homicide or an accidental shooting than to shoot an intruder.

Those findings predictably enraged gun groups such as the NRA, which responded by attacking the research and the researchers. Since 1996, under the influence of gun groups, Congress has essentially shut down government-funded research about guns, taking away money from a Centers for Disease Control and Prevention division that funded firearms studies and forbidding any government-funded investigation that would "advocate or promote gun control." The result: Much of the policy debate over guns has taken place in an information vacuum. It's time to start filling that void.

There's a link to an opposing pov at the above link.

So what do you think? Do want to know facts or should we just believe the nutters who say more guns is the answer to everything?

Examples?

Outlaw guns and only outlaws will have guns

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Police kill armed 14-year-old boy on NYC street

Give citizens and lawmakers information to make smart decisions....

In the 1980s and 1990s, researchers studied what happens when people buy guns to protect themselves and their families. You might think they'd be safer, but studies concluded it's actually far more likely that a gun kept in the home would be involved in a suicide, a domestic homicide or an accidental shooting than to shoot an intruder.

Those findings predictably enraged gun groups such as the NRA, which responded by attacking the research and the researchers. Since 1996, under the influence of gun groups, Congress has essentially shut down government-funded research about guns, taking away money from a Centers for Disease Control and Prevention division that funded firearms studies and forbidding any government-funded investigation that would "advocate or promote gun control." The result: Much of the policy debate over guns has taken place in an information vacuum. It's time to start filling that void.

There's a link to an opposing pov at the above link.

So what do you think? Do want to know facts or should we just believe the nutters who say more guns is the answer to everything?

Feel free to fund private research luddly if you don't like the research that is being undertaken.

Here are the facts.

Fact one, there are more guns.

Fact two, the is significantly more guns carried daily by private individuals.

Fact three, homicides, crime and violent crime are at or near historical lows.

What more do you want to know?

That people kill themselves with guns?

People kill themselves with guns...now you know.

They also kill themselves with rope, Tylenol, pain killers, poison, carbon monoxide and jumping from bridges.

Just in case you were next going to advocate taxpayer funded research into the effect of building skyscrappers on leaping suicides, they do that too.

An unsurprising lack of real facts here.

Or, did you just forget to include the link?

I have no problem with the nutters posting OPINIONS but don't try to pass it off as FACT.

Thanks.

 

[The Rabbi]

Police kill armed 14-year-old boy on NYC street


There's a link to an opposing pov at the above link.

So what do you think? Do want to know facts or should we just believe the nutters who say more guns is the answer to everything?

Feel free to fund private research luddly if you don't like the research that is being undertaken.

Here are the facts.

Fact one, there are more guns.

Fact two, the is significantly more guns carried daily by private individuals.

Fact three, homicides, crime and violent crime are at or near historical lows.

What more do you want to know?

That people kill themselves with guns?

People kill themselves with guns...now you know.

They also kill themselves with rope, Tylenol, pain killers, poison, carbon monoxide and jumping from bridges.

Just in case you were next going to advocate taxpayer funded research into the effect of building skyscrappers on leaping suicides, they do that too.

An unsurprising lack of real facts here.

Or, did you just forget to include the link?

I have no problem with the nutters posting OPINIONS but don't try to pass it off as FACT.

Thanks.

Those are all fact, jackoff. Deal with them.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Police kill armed 14-year-old boy on NYC street

Give citizens and lawmakers information to make smart decisions....

In the 1980s and 1990s, researchers studied what happens when people buy guns to protect themselves and their families. You might think they'd be safer, but studies concluded it's actually far more likely that a gun kept in the home would be involved in a suicide, a domestic homicide or an accidental shooting than to shoot an intruder.

Those findings predictably enraged gun groups such as the NRA, which responded by attacking the research and the researchers. Since 1996, under the influence of gun groups, Congress has essentially shut down government-funded research about guns, taking away money from a Centers for Disease Control and Prevention division that funded firearms studies and forbidding any government-funded investigation that would "advocate or promote gun control." The result: Much of the policy debate over guns has taken place in an information vacuum. It's time to start filling that void.

There's a link to an opposing pov at the above link.

So what do you think? Do want to know facts or should we just believe the nutters who say more guns is the answer to everything?

What facts? Do you have actual facts, or are we just supposed to assume that they are floating around out there and that no one has found them despite the billions of dollars that have been spent trying to take away guns?

 

[Missourian]

Police kill armed 14-year-old boy on NYC street


There's a link to an opposing pov at the above link.

So what do you think? Do want to know facts or should we just believe the nutters who say more guns is the answer to everything?

Feel free to fund private research luddly if you don't like the research that is being undertaken.

Here are the facts.

Fact one, there are more guns.

Fact two, the is significantly more guns carried daily by private individuals.

Fact three, homicides, crime and violent crime are at or near historical lows.

What more do you want to know?

That people kill themselves with guns?

People kill themselves with guns...now you know.

They also kill themselves with rope, Tylenol, pain killers, poison, carbon monoxide and jumping from bridges.

Just in case you were next going to advocate taxpayer funded research into the effect of building skyscrappers on leaping suicides, they do that too.

An unsurprising lack of real facts here.

Or, did you just forget to include the link?

I have no problem with the nutters posting OPINIONS but don't try to pass it off as FACT.

Thanks.

I simple assumed you would have taken the time to research the facts BEFORE you took a position. Silly of me, I know.

Fact one, there are more guns:







The number of annual background checks run in the U.S. began to jump in 2006 after plateauing at around 8.5 million in the early 2000s. There were 16.4 million checks in 2011 and nearly 19.6 million last year.



Those checks could hit a record in 2013, judging from the more than 11.4 million that were run in the first six months alone.

Will 2013 mark record gun sales in US?- MSN Money

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Fact two, there are significantly more guns carried daily by private individuals.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concealed_carry_in_the_United_States

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Fact three, homicides, crime and violent crime are at or near historical lows.


Study: Gun homicides, violence down sharply in past 20 years

By CNN Staff
May 9, 2013 -- Updated 0939 GMT (1739 HKT)



(CNN) -- Gun-related homicides and crime are "strikingly" down from 20 years ago, despite the American public's belief that firearm crime is on the upswing, a new study said Wednesday.
Looking back 50 years, a Pew Research Center study found U.S. gun homicides rose in the 1960s, gained in the 1970s, peaked in the 1980s and the early 1990s, and then plunged and leveled out the past 20 years.


Study: Gun homicides, violence down sharply in past 20 years - CNN.com


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FBI: Violent crime rates in the US drop, approach historic lows

By Andrew Mach, Staff Writer, NBC News


Violent crime rates in the U.S. are reaching historic lows, according to new FBI data released Monday.


Instances of murder declined overall by 1.9 percent from 2010 figures, while rape, robbery and aggravated assault declined by 4 percent nationwide, according to records from more than 14,000 law-enforcement agencies around the country, FBI spokesman Bill Carter told msnbc.com.


The number of property crimes also registered a 0.8-percent drop, motor-vehicle thefts declined by 3.3 percent, and arson was down by 5 percent.


http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/201...es-in-the-us-drop-approach-historic-lows?lite


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[007]

Oh my, what do we have here? Another loony bin, leftroid, whack job, constitution hating bull shit thread about firearms... SHOCKER!

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Feel free to fund private research luddly if you don't like the research that is being undertaken.

Here are the facts.

Fact one, there are more guns.

Fact two, the is significantly more guns carried daily by private individuals.

Fact three, homicides, crime and violent crime are at or near historical lows.

What more do you want to know?

That people kill themselves with guns?

People kill themselves with guns...now you know.

They also kill themselves with rope, Tylenol, pain killers, poison, carbon monoxide and jumping from bridges.

Just in case you were next going to advocate taxpayer funded research into the effect of building skyscrappers on leaping suicides, they do that too.

An unsurprising lack of real facts here.

Or, did you just forget to include the link?

I have no problem with the nutters posting OPINIONS but don't try to pass it off as FACT.

Thanks.

I simple assumed you would have taken the time to research the facts BEFORE you took a position. Silly of me, I know.

Fact one, there are more guns:







The number of annual background checks run in the U.S. began to jump in 2006 after plateauing at around 8.5 million in the early 2000s. There were 16.4 million checks in 2011 and nearly 19.6 million last year.



Those checks could hit a record in 2013, judging from the more than 11.4 million that were run in the first six months alone.

Will 2013 mark record gun sales in US?- MSN Money

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Fact two, the is significantly more guns carried daily by private individuals.

Concealed carry in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Fact three, homicides, crime and violent crime are at or near historical lows.




(CNN) -- Gun-related homicides and crime are "strikingly" down from 20 years ago, despite the American public's belief that firearm crime is on the upswing, a new study said Wednesday.
Looking back 50 years, a Pew Research Center study found U.S. gun homicides rose in the 1960s, gained in the 1970s, peaked in the 1980s and the early 1990s, and then plunged and leveled out the past 20 years.


Study: Gun homicides, violence down sharply in past 20 years - CNN.com






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But people who own guns might get cancer.

 

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[Mad Scientist]

That's a fake "Conspiracy Theory" story. New York has tough Gun Laws and therefore no Gun Violence.

 

[Old Rocks]

That's a fake "Conspiracy Theory" story. New York has tough Gun Laws and therefore no Gun Violence.

New York State gun murders per 100,000 2.7

Alabama 2.8
Arizona 3.6
Arkansas 3.2
California 3.4
Delaware 4.2
DC 16.5
Georgia 3.8
Florida 3.9
Louisiana 7.7
Maryland 5.1
Michigan 4.2
Mississippi 4.0
Missouri 5.4
Nevada 3.1
New Jersey 2.8
New Mexico 3.3
North Carolina 3.0
Oklahoma 3.0
Pennsylvania 3.6
South Carolina 4.5
Texas 3.2
Virginia 3.1
Gun violence in the United States by state - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Old Rocks]

32,000 gun deaths a year in the US. Soon, the number of gun deaths will exceed that of deaths by auto accident.



By 2015 more people will be killed by guns than by traffic accidents, according to a startling chart compiled by Bloomberg Government's Alex Tribou.

Motor vehicle deaths have declined 22 percent since 2005 while gun fatalities — including homicide, suicide and accidents — have steadily risen from a low point in 2000.

The decline of traffic accident fatalities — which coincides with deliberate moves to cut back on drunk driving, increase seatbelt use and enforce car safety standards — and the increase in gun fatalities will lead to a massive change in 2015.

At the current rates, gun deaths should hit around 33,000 annually in 2015 while traffic fatalities should decrease to around 32,000, according to Bloomberg estimates.


Read more: Report: Gun Deaths Will Exceed Traffic Deaths By 2015 - Business Insider

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Police kill armed 14-year-old boy on NYC street

Give citizens and lawmakers information to make smart decisions....

In the 1980s and 1990s, researchers studied what happens when people buy guns to protect themselves and their families. You might think they'd be safer, but studies concluded it's actually far more likely that a gun kept in the home would be involved in a suicide, a domestic homicide or an accidental shooting than to shoot an intruder.

Those findings predictably enraged gun groups such as the NRA, which responded by attacking the research and the researchers. Since 1996, under the influence of gun groups, Congress has essentially shut down government-funded research about guns, taking away money from a Centers for Disease Control and Prevention division that funded firearms studies and forbidding any government-funded investigation that would "advocate or promote gun control." The result: Much of the policy debate over guns has taken place in an information vacuum. It's time to start filling that void.

There's a link to an opposing pov at the above link.

So what do you think? Do want to know facts or should we just believe the nutters who say more guns is the answer to everything?

I think you're a loser, like every other day, Dudley.

Virginia gun sales rise, firearm-related crimes drop | HamptonRoads.com | PilotOnline.com

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

32,000 gun deaths a year in the US. Soon, the number of gun deaths will exceed that of deaths by auto accident.



By 2015 more people will be killed by guns than by traffic accidents, according to a startling chart compiled by Bloomberg Government's Alex Tribou.

Motor vehicle deaths have declined 22 percent since 2005 while gun fatalities — including homicide, suicide and accidents — have steadily risen from a low point in 2000.

The decline of traffic accident fatalities — which coincides with deliberate moves to cut back on drunk driving, increase seatbelt use and enforce car safety standards — and the increase in gun fatalities will lead to a massive change in 2015.

At the current rates, gun deaths should hit around 33,000 annually in 2015 while traffic fatalities should decrease to around 32,000, according to Bloomberg estimates.


Read more: Report: Gun Deaths Will Exceed Traffic Deaths By 2015 - Business Insider

32,000 out of 310 million, or 1/1000th of a percent.

This is supposed to concern me?

 

[Mad Scientist]

That's a fake "Conspiracy Theory" story. New York has tough Gun Laws and therefore no Gun Violence.

New York State gun murders per 100,000 2.7

Alabama 2.8
Arizona 3.6
Arkansas 3.2
California 3.4
Delaware 4.2
DC 16.5
Georgia 3.8
Florida 3.9
Louisiana 7.7
Maryland 5.1
Michigan 4.2
Mississippi 4.0
Missouri 5.4
Nevada 3.1
New Jersey 2.8
New Mexico 3.3
North Carolina 3.0
Oklahoma 3.0
Pennsylvania 3.6
South Carolina 4.5
Texas 3.2
Virginia 3.1
Gun violence in the United States by state - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Your own link shows New York as being #4 in total Gun Murders. Ooops!

Brady Campaign Score? Niggah please!

 

[Old Rocks]

That's a fake "Conspiracy Theory" story. New York has tough Gun Laws and therefore no Gun Violence.

New York State gun murders per 100,000 2.7

Alabama 2.8
Arizona 3.6
Arkansas 3.2
California 3.4
Delaware 4.2
DC 16.5
Georgia 3.8
Florida 3.9
Louisiana 7.7
Maryland 5.1
Michigan 4.2
Mississippi 4.0
Missouri 5.4
Nevada 3.1
New Jersey 2.8
New Mexico 3.3
North Carolina 3.0
Oklahoma 3.0
Pennsylvania 3.6
South Carolina 4.5
Texas 3.2
Virginia 3.1
Gun violence in the United States by state - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Your own link shows New York as being #4 in total Gun Murders. Ooops!

Brady Campaign Score? Niggah please!

Cannot read? 22 states with worse stats than New York by population. Of course, with a very large population, New York will be number 4 in overall murders. But that is not how it is measured. By murders per 100,000 population, New York does not come in that bad. In fact, since there were several other states that had 2.7 per 100,000, New York is just about in the middle.

However, since the facts don't fit your politics, you choose to lie about them.