Gunman at DC Navy Yard shoots at least 7

[Brain357]

He shot them like fish in a barrel.
So much for high security huh?

Your gun control laws killed these people, because your dogma, your fanatical liberal dogma, matters more to you than the victims right to self defense.

So he shot 2 highly trained police and you think a concealed carry person would make a difference? Really?

The guards/polices at the permeter were at a disadvantage has the shooter had the element of surprise. A CC holder would have the surprise on thier side more than likely.

And the CC owner would know the shooter from another CC owner?

 

[martybegan]

So he shot 2 highly trained police and you think a concealed carry person would make a difference? Really?

The guards/polices at the permeter were at a disadvantage has the shooter had the element of surprise. A CC holder would have the surprise on thier side more than likely.

And the CC owner would know the shooter from another CC owner?

Chance you take. Its better than the zero chance you have when a shooter penetrates a perimeter and has only unarmed people in opposition.

 

[Brain357]

The guards/polices at the permeter were at a disadvantage has the shooter had the element of surprise. A CC holder would have the surprise on thier side more than likely.

And the CC owner would know the shooter from another CC owner?

Chance you take. Its better than the zero chance you have when a shooter penetrates a perimeter and has only unarmed people in opposition.

And police can tell a cc owner from the shooter?

 

[martybegan]

And the CC owner would know the shooter from another CC owner?

Chance you take. Its better than the zero chance you have when a shooter penetrates a perimeter and has only unarmed people in opposition.

And police can tell a cc owner from the shooter?

Usually the CC holder isnt the one taking potshots at unarmed people.

 

[rightwinger]

Of course high security areas are easy targets. People rely on the security to keep someone dangerous from getting in. Once they are in, it's shooting fish in a barrel. Now the gunman can rely on that security to make sure no one else is armed that could stop him.

No, they are not easy targets

A shopping mall is an easy target. No armed security. Easy entry. Quick escape
A military base has armed guards at the gates, MPs, dogs. Once an incident occurs it goes under lockdown. Hard to get in, impossible to get out

Want an area with a high percentage of armed civilians? Try any gang controlled area in America. Pull your gun and start shooting there is a high percentage someone will fire back
Yet they have the highest murder rates in the country.....some deterrent

pretty piss poor analogy RW.....

The premise is that gun violence will not occur in areas with a high concentration of civilian gun owners. Gang areas have large percentages of armed citizens yet it doesn't deter them in the least

 

[koshergrl]

So he shot 2 highly trained police and you think a concealed carry person would make a difference? Really?

The guards/polices at the permeter were at a disadvantage has the shooter had the element of surprise. A CC holder would have the surprise on thier side more than likely.

And the CC owner would know the shooter from another CC owner?

Uh, yes. Most people aren't quite as stupid as you appear to be.

We will all be grateful forever if you never own or touch a gun.

But people of moderate intelligence are perfectly capable of discerning who is the killer, or otherwise, holding fire.

Moron.

 

[Brain357]

Chance you take. Its better than the zero chance you have when a shooter penetrates a perimeter and has only unarmed people in opposition.

And police can tell a cc owner from the shooter?

Usually the CC holder isnt the one taking potshots at unarmed people.

I don't think it's so obvious in a situation like this.

 

[koshergrl]

And police can tell a cc owner from the shooter?

Usually the CC holder isnt the one taking potshots at unarmed people.

I don't think it's so obvious in a situation like this.

What is obvious is you're a nitwit. I really don't think in the history of mass shootings there has ever been an instance of people not knowing *which* person is the deranged nutbag.

YOU probably have difficulty discerning, which says more about your perceptions than it does about the reality of these situations. I have never heard of a CC person accidentally taking out another CC person when putting an end to a shooting. Perhaps you have different information. If you do, then share it. Otherwise, shut the hell up.

 

[koshergrl]

pretty piss poor analogy RW.....

The premise is that gun violence will not occur in areas with a high concentration of civilian gun owners. Gang areas have large percentages of armed citizens yet it doesn't deter them in the least

False premise, gangs are criminals.
Law abiding gun owners are not.

They're just recipients of stolen property. They don't even "own" the guns they use to perpetrate crimes on law abiding people.

RW loses. Again.

 

[martybegan]

And police can tell a cc owner from the shooter?

Usually the CC holder isnt the one taking potshots at unarmed people.

I don't think it's so obvious in a situation like this.

So its better that people be completely unable to defend themselves due to the chance of confusion on the part of responders to a mass shooting?

What is obvious is that once this asshole penetrated the perimeter he had ample time to shoot up whomever he wanted to, and the people in there had no recourse except to run, hide, or confront an firearm armed perp with improvised melee weapons.

 

[rightwinger]

pretty piss poor analogy RW.....

The premise is that gun violence will not occur in areas with a high concentration of civilian gun owners. Gang areas have large percentages of armed citizens yet it doesn't deter them in the least

False premise, gangs are criminals.
Law abiding gun owners are not.

The person firing the weapon is a criminal

It is obvious he is not afraid of armed civilians in gang areas. If so, he would be afraid to shoot....statistics show they are not in the least afraid of people firing back

 

[Brain357]

Usually the CC holder isnt the one taking potshots at unarmed people.

I don't think it's so obvious in a situation like this.

What is obvious is you're a nitwit. I really don't think in the history of mass shootings there has ever been an instance of people not knowing *which* person is the deranged nutbag.

YOU probably have difficulty discerning, which says more about your perceptions than it does about the reality of these situations. I have never heard of a CC person accidentally taking out another CC person when putting an end to a shooting. Perhaps you have different information. If you do, then share it. Otherwise, shut the hell up.

A CC owner almost shot the wrong guy at the Tucson shooting.
http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/20/myth-of-the-hero-gunslinger/
Guess your the nitwit

 

[Spoonman]

let all me ask all of you anti gun loons here a question. did the gun have know psychological disorders and a history of violence or did the individual?

When you have identified an individual with problems through your back ground checks, how do you plan to isolate him from society so this doesn't happen? Major fail here considering what was known about this guy and his history

 

[koshergrl]

"Almost shot" = "didn't shoot".

Got it.

 

[Spoonman]

The premise is that gun violence will not occur in areas with a high concentration of civilian gun owners. Gang areas have large percentages of armed citizens yet it doesn't deter them in the least

False premise, gangs are criminals.
Law abiding gun owners are not.

The person firing the weapon is a criminal

It is obvious he is not afraid of armed civilians in gang areas. If so, he would be afraid to shoot....statistics show they are not in the least afraid of people firing back

so the left wing solution is just let them keep blasting away unopposed. cool. sounds like a recipe for mass killings

 

[Brain357]

"Almost shot" = "didn't shoot".

Got it.

Proving its not so easy to tell the good guys from the bad guys. You lose.

 

[Spoonman]

"Almost shot" = "didn't shoot".

Got it.

when i was driving down the street the other day I almost killed a few hundred pedestrians on the sidewalk. fortunately i managed to keep my car on the road. but they almost died

 

[eflatminor]

Guess your the nitwit

Oh the irony!

 

[Brain357]

False premise, gangs are criminals.
Law abiding gun owners are not.

The person firing the weapon is a criminal
Y
It is obvious he is not afraid of armed civilians in gang areas. If so, he would be afraid to shoot....statistics show they are not in the least afraid of people firing back

so the left wing solution is just let them keep blasting away unopposed. cool. sounds like a recipe for mass killings

And the right solution is to ignore what every other developed nation has done and keep adding more guns. We've been doing that for a while now. Doesn't seem to be working.

 

[martybegan]

"Almost shot" = "didn't shoot".

Got it.

Proving its not so easy to tell the good guys from the bad guys. You lose.

So basically disarm everyone then?

Except your government overlords, of course.