Gunman kills self after deadly shooting in Australia



Another thread where loons pretend that laws are meant to stop all of anything. Odium was just saying the other day how proud he was that America hasnt had one traffic accident since the usage of Traffic lights were implemented
Liberals motto other than WE LIE should be CAN'T FIX STUPID. Now this clown is comparing cars to guns...amazing. Oh and yes GUN LAWS that BAN guns are meant to keep guns AWAY from people you moron.

Is this your way of pretending that laws CAN get rid of all of anything? By lashing out about cars and guns silly girl?
BANNING something means getting rid of it. Problem with comprehension libtard?

Banning doesnt mean that it wont ever happen. Remember Prohibition stupid?
 


Another thread where loons pretend that laws are meant to stop all of anything. Odium was just saying the other day how proud he was that America hasnt had one traffic accident since the usage of Traffic lights were implemented

That's the purpose of this group based solely on their name. Notice the word prevent. That means ALL.

Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence

No, no it doesnt. You guys have a way of saying things are what you say they are and want people to debate based on what you say. Its funny.

It's not my way. It's the definition of prevent. It means to keep something from happening. It's funny you ignore definition. Maybe I should have written it in ebonics so blacks could understand.

Yes it means to keep something from happening. I asked where does any law that ever existed ever stopped anything? Since not one law exists why do you have a different standard for gun laws?
 
Yes they do and that`s why it`s so much safer there than here. The gun buy back was a huge success and I thank you for bringing this up.
Australia enacted one of the largest gun reforms ever nearly 2 decades ago — and gun deaths plummeted
Yeah tell that to every populace that has had their rights stolen from them

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Just one example. Russia is another I am sure I can find more.
 


Another thread where loons pretend that laws are meant to stop all of anything. Odium was just saying the other day how proud he was that America hasnt had one traffic accident since the usage of Traffic lights were implemented

That's the purpose of this group based solely on their name. Notice the word prevent. That means ALL.

Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence

No, no it doesnt. You guys have a way of saying things are what you say they are and want people to debate based on what you say. Its funny.

It's not my way. It's the definition of prevent. It means to keep something from happening. It's funny you ignore definition. Maybe I should have written it in ebonics so blacks could understand.

Yes it means to keep something from happening. I asked where does any law that ever existed ever stopped anything? Since not one law exists why do you have a different standard for gun laws?

I'm not the one arguing that "common sense gun laws" will prevent this type of thing from happening. Liberal groups, and the Liberals that support those groups, argue that those law will prevent such things from happening. If that's not what you really mean, use a different term that doesn't mean all. Until then, don't be shocked when someone points out something used isn't doing what the definition of the word says.
 
Yes they do and that`s why it`s so much safer there than here. The gun buy back was a huge success and I thank you for bringing this up.
Australia enacted one of the largest gun reforms ever nearly 2 decades ago — and gun deaths plummeted
Yeah tell that to every populace that has had their rights stolen from them

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Just one example. Russia is another I am sure I can find more.
More bullshit with no source to back it up. perhaps you should quit while you`re behind.
Pro-Gun Activists Lie About Chinese Gun Ownership
 
Yes they do and that`s why it`s so much safer there than here. The gun buy back was a huge success and I thank you for bringing this up.
Australia enacted one of the largest gun reforms ever nearly 2 decades ago — and gun deaths plummeted
Yeah tell that to every populace that has had their rights stolen from them

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Just one example. Russia is another I am sure I can find more.
More bullshit with no source to back it up. perhaps you should quit while you`re behind.
Pro-Gun Activists Lie About Chinese Gun Ownership
ROFL maoist rebel news ROFL!
 
Stupidest comments of the day: "and it doesn"'t matter what their gun murder number".

Of course it matters. You are only recognizing that the gun laws are not perfect instead that they do a good job of limiting mass murders.

The argument used by those saying "common sense gun laws" is that doing so will prevent mass murders. Are you now saying that they should be saying getting them to a point where we're willing to accept?
No, that is what you freeks are trying to get us to say when in fact we have always said "prevent" most "mass murders."
 
Stupidest comments of the day: "and it doesn"'t matter what their gun murder number".

Of course it matters. You are only recognizing that the gun laws are not perfect instead that they do a good job of limiting mass murders.


nope.....wrong. Their criminals obviously have access to illegal guns...they get them when they want or need them. Law Abiding Australians can't get them....but they are not the ones shooting people...so taking guns away from them does not reduce the gun murder rate.

They confiscated guns in Australia and even though they are an island nation.....their criminals get guns...and shoot each other...

The difference between the Australian criminal sub culture and ours......the people actually using guns to commit crime and murder.....is that their criminals do not murder each other as often.

Their gun control laws do not keep them from committing gun murder...they choose not to commit murder.
 
Stupidest comments of the day: "and it doesn"'t matter what their gun murder number".

Of course it matters. You are only recognizing that the gun laws are not perfect instead that they do a good job of limiting mass murders.

The argument used by those saying "common sense gun laws" is that doing so will prevent mass murders. Are you now saying that they should be saying getting them to a point where we're willing to accept?
No, that is what you freeks are trying to get us to say when in fact we have always said "prevent" most "mass murders."


The number of mass public shootings in Australia was rare before the confiscation......they have had at least 2 since then and two shootings last year could have been mass public shootings...the coffee shop shooting, and the police employee shooting, could have been mass public shootings if the shooters had simply chosen to shoot more people. Gun control did not stop the mass shootings...the foriegn immigrant muslims who had illegal guns simply chose to not shoot more people.....that is luck, not gun control.
 
Stupidest comments of the day: "and it doesn"'t matter what their gun murder number".

Of course it matters. You are only recognizing that the gun laws are not perfect instead that they do a good job of limiting mass murders.


Please...explain to all of us how gun control worked in these shootings in Australia.....I have isolated them from all the other shootings in Australia to point out that these shootings in particular could have been mass public shootings if the shooter had simply chosen to shoot more people...

Again..gun control did not stop these from being mass shootings...their gun control didn't even stop the shooters from killing the people they did....and this is after the confiscation....

Luck is not successful gun control laws.....

Okay....I have isolated shooting incidents in Australia that could just as easily have turned into mass shooting events....and yes, I know, you are going to move the goal posts and change the results.....
So no, the gun confiscation in Austrulia did not stop mass shootings....dumb luck did.....since all of these shooters had no trouble getting guns.....right?


Tell me.....how is anything other than luck that kept these from being mass shootings...since the shooter obviously was able to get a gun and shoot people in gun free Australia...right?

Timeline of major crimes in Australia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

25 January 1996 – Hillcrest murders – Peter May shot and killed his three children, his estranged wife and her parents in the Brisbane suburb of Hillcrest before killing himself.[54]
  • 16 August 1998 – Victorian police officers Gary Silk and Rodney Miller were shot dead in an ambush by Bendali Debs and Jason Joseph Roberts in the Moorabbin Police murders.
  • 3 August 1999 – La Trobe University shooting – Jonathan Brett Horrocks walked into the cafeteria in La Trobe university in Melbourne Victoria armed with a 38 caliber revolver handgun and opened fire killing Leon Capraro the boss and manager off the cafeteria and wounding a woman who was a student at the university.
  • 26 May 2002 – A Vietnamese man walked into a Vietnamese wedding reception in Cabramatta Sydney, New South Wales armed with a handgun and opened fire wounding seven people.
  • 18 June 2007 – Melbourne CBD shooting – Christopher Wayne Hudson opened fire on three people, killing one and seriously wounding two others who intervened when Hudson was assaulting his girlfriend at a busy Melbourne intersection during the morning peak. He gave himself up to police in Wallan, Victoria on 20 June.[71]
  • 28 April 2012 – A man opened fire in a busy shopping mall in Robina on the Gold Coast shooting Bandidos bikie Jacques Teamo. A woman who was an innocent bystander was also injured from a shotgun blast to the leg. Neither of the victims died, but the incident highlighted the recent increase in gun crime across major Australian cities including Sydney, Brisbane and Adelaide.[citation needed]
  • 23 May 2012 – Christopher 'Badness' Binse, a career criminal well known to police, was arrested after a 44-hour siege at an East Keilor home in Melbourne's north west. During the siege, Binse fired several shots at police and refused to co-operate with negotiators; eventually tear gas had to be used to force him out of the house, at which point he refused to put down his weapon and was then sprayed with a volley of non-lethal bullets.[citation needed]
  • 8 March 2013 – Queen Street mall siege – Lee Matthew Hiller entered the shopping mall on Queen Street Brisbane Queensland armed with a revolver and threatened shoppers and staff with the revolver, causing a 90-minute siege which ended when Hiller was shot and wounded in the arm by a police officer from the elite Specialist Emergency Response Team. Hiller was then later taken to hospital and was treated for his injury; he pleaded gulity to 20 charges and was sentenced to four-and-a-half years in jail with a non-parole period of two years and three months.[citation needed]

  • 9 September 2014 – Lockhart massacre – Geoff Hunt shot and killed his wife, Kim, his 10-year-old son Fletcher, and his daughters Mia, eight and Phoebe, six before killing himself on a farm in Lockhart in the Riverina district near Wagga Wagga New South Wales. The body of Geoff Hunt and a firearm are later found in a dam on the farm by police divers and a suicide note written by Geoff Hunt is also found inside the house on the farm.[citation needed]
  • 7 November 2014 – Jordy Brook carjacked a Channel 7 news cameraman at gun point during a crime spree on the Sunshine Coast, Queensland. He was later captured and arrested by police after luring police on a high speed chase and crashing the car.[citation needed
  • 15 December 2014 – 2014 Sydney hostage crisis – Seventeen people were taken hostage in a cafe in Martin Place, Sydney by Man Haron Monis. The hostage crisis was resolved in the early hours of 16 December, sixteen hours after it commenced, when armed police stormed the premises. Monis and two hostages were killed in the course of the crisis.[87]
  • 27 June 2015 – Hermidale triple murder – the bodies of three people, two men and a woman are found shot dead on a property in a rural farming community in the town of Hermidale west of Nyngan, the bodies of 28-year-old Jacob Cumberland his father 59-year-old Stephen Cumberland and a 36-year-old woman were found with gun shot wounds, the body of Jacob Cumberland was found on the drive way of the property, the body of the 36-year-old woman was found in the backyard of the property and the body of Stephen Cumberland was found in a burnt out caravan on the property. 61-year-old Allan O'Connor is later arrested and charged with the murders.
  • 10 September 2015 – A 49-year-old woman is shot dead in a Mc Donald's restaurant in Gold Coast by her 57-year-old ex partner, who then turned the gun on himself afterwards and shot himself dead.
  • 2 October 2015 - 2015 Parramatta shooting On 2 October 2015, Farhad Khalil Mohammad Jabar, a 15-year-old boy, shot and killed Curtis Cheng, an unarmed police civilian finance worker, outside the New South Wales Police Force headquarters in Parramatta, Australia. Jabar was subsequently shot and killed by special constables who were protecting the police station.
 
Yes they do and that`s why it`s so much safer there than here. The gun buy back was a huge success and I thank you for bringing this up.
Australia enacted one of the largest gun reforms ever nearly 2 decades ago — and gun deaths plummeted
Yeah tell that to every populace that has had their rights stolen from them

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Just one example. Russia is another I am sure I can find more.
More bullshit with no source to back it up. perhaps you should quit while you`re behind.
Pro-Gun Activists Lie About Chinese Gun Ownership
ROFL maoist rebel news ROFL!
You still have no source for your cartoon bullshit. Gun control in China didn`t happen until 1966.
Asia Times Online :: China News, China Business News, Taiwan and Hong Kong News and Business.
 


Another thread where loons pretend that laws are meant to stop all of anything. Odium was just saying the other day how proud he was that America hasnt had one traffic accident since the usage of Traffic lights were implemented
Liberals motto other than WE LIE should be CAN'T FIX STUPID. Now this clown is comparing cars to guns...amazing. Oh and yes GUN LAWS that BAN guns are meant to keep guns AWAY from people you moron.

Is this your way of pretending that laws CAN get rid of all of anything? By lashing out about cars and guns silly girl?


Australian gun confiscation did not work.....Australian gun ownership is now back to pre confiscation levels...and their gun violence rate is going up. Explain that please...
 
These stories are hard to find.....and this points out.....they have confiscated their guns.....and they still have gun problems........and it doesn't matter what their gun murder number is....the only thing keeping it from being higher is that their criminals and their crazies just don't shoot more people...since it is obvious that they have access to illegal guns.
What. a. load.

The gun homicide number is the only thing that matters in the debate about gun homicides.


Nope....if that were the case we would ban cars...since 35,000 people die each year in car accidents.

Australia did not have a high gun crime rate before the ban......they had very few mass public shootings before the ban...their criminals and their nuts simply do not feel the need to murder as often as our criminals and nuts do...as I point out, their criminals get guns.....lots of guns...they just don't use them as often to murder.....

Their gun ownership rate is back to where it was before the confiscation.

Their gun crime rate is going up......

Explain that....
 
Liberal groups, and the Liberals that support those groups, argue that those law will prevent such things from happening.
You've finally made a strawman that even you can beat up. Rather, the argument is that the rate of such things happening will be decreased. As has been demonstrated.
 
Australia did not have a high gun crime rate before the ban......they had very few mass public shootings before the ban
And they've had less since more restrictive laws were enforced. Firearms are not banned in Australia.
 
Their gun ownership rate is back to where it was before the confiscation.

Their gun crime rate is going up......

Explain that....
If that is the case you have just defeated your own argument.
 
2aguy keeps trying is laughable arguments, and knowledgeable people keep laughing at him.

His silly fallacy is easily refuted.

His logic would lead us to get rid of police because they don't stop every crime or apprehend every suspect.

His logic is moronic.


Nope. My point is that it isn't access to guns that causes gun murder or crime. The criminals in Australia, Britain, Europe and Japan can all get guns. Their criminals do not use them to kill.

We have 357,000,000 million guns in private hands in the United States.....according to you well over half of them should be used to commit murder...right? since just having access to guns, according to you means normal people are going to commit murder...right?

How many gun murders did we have in 2014..... 8,124

That means that Americans who own guns did not use 356,991,876 million guns to commit murder....

So it isn't access to guns that creates gun crime or gun murder.

Puerto Rico has the strictest gun laws in the United States......they are an Island nation......they also have the highest gun murder rate in the world......

According to you that is not possible.....
 

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