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Iām afraid itās hopeless. Trying to dispel the myths Americans believe about WWII, is damn impossible.
Yes. Just about everyone around Truman who knew about the bomb, told him not to do it. However, he ignored them and chose to accept advice of his long time friend James Byrnes, his future Secretary of State.Iām afraid itās hopeless. Trying to dispel the myths Americans believe about WWII, is damn impossible.
It is very, very hard, to be sure. Too many people think that admitting we did not need to nuke Japan somehow stains the honor and memory of our soldiers who fought in the Pacific, but they had nothing to do with the decision to use the A-bomb. In fact, many generals and admirals said nuking Japan was wrong and unnecessary, including Admiral Halsey, General (later President) Eisenhower, General MacArthur, General Fellers, Admiral Nimitz, and General Clarke, to name a few.
The myths die hard.Gipper and Unkotare are simply two busy Trolls. Gipper really had to work hard to get a few to rise to his bait.
The Japanese people were brainwashed even more so than the German citizens. The Emperor was their God, a being they worshipped. He and their leaders had convinced each and every citizen that the allies would rape, torture and murder any and all soldiers captured including all civilians.
Tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of military personnel and committed suicide rather than be captured. Thousands of mothers were seen cutting the throats of their children, throwing them off cliffs before jumping to their deaths.
The Battle of Okinawa demonstrated the fierceness of the Japanese and how far they would go before giving ground. The battle was fought from April 1 to June 22, 1945. U.S. troops suffered nearly 50,000 casualties of which approximately one quarter were deaths. The Japanese, on the other hand, lost about 100,000 of 110,000 men. The largest amphibious campaign of the Pacific War also claimed heavy civilian casualties as an estimated 100,000 civilians were killed by the end of the campaign. According to many historians, the Battle of Okinawa had a major influence on the US decision to drop atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki as it clearly revealed that the invasion of Japan would claim huge casualties on both sides.
List of 10 Greatest Battles of the Pacific War - History Lists
Yes, Japan had put out feelers about surrender but their terms were unacceptable. They demanded that the US NOT occupy their country and that the Emperor remain in power. Those terms were totally, and justifiably unacceptable. After Hiroshima, we demanded unconditional surrender to which they refused to respond. After Nagasaki, the vote to surrender was tied and it was Emperor Hirohito himself who broke the tie.
Anyone who doesn't realize that the two bombs saved millions of lives, is delusional, living in a fairy tale world or are simply Trolls eager to wrestle in the mud.
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The Japanese people were brainwashed even more so than the German citizens. .....
... He and their leaders had convinced each and every citizen.....
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Yes, Japan had put out feelers about surrender but their terms were unacceptable. .....
The myths die hard.Gipper and Unkotare are simply two busy Trolls. Gipper really had to work hard to get a few to rise to his bait.
The Japanese people were brainwashed even more so than the German citizens. The Emperor was their God, a being they worshipped. He and their leaders had convinced each and every citizen that the allies would rape, torture and murder any and all soldiers captured including all civilians.
Tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of military personnel and committed suicide rather than be captured. Thousands of mothers were seen cutting the throats of their children, throwing them off cliffs before jumping to their deaths.
The Battle of Okinawa demonstrated the fierceness of the Japanese and how far they would go before giving ground. The battle was fought from April 1 to June 22, 1945. U.S. troops suffered nearly 50,000 casualties of which approximately one quarter were deaths. The Japanese, on the other hand, lost about 100,000 of 110,000 men. The largest amphibious campaign of the Pacific War also claimed heavy civilian casualties as an estimated 100,000 civilians were killed by the end of the campaign. According to many historians, the Battle of Okinawa had a major influence on the US decision to drop atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki as it clearly revealed that the invasion of Japan would claim huge casualties on both sides.
List of 10 Greatest Battles of the Pacific War - History Lists
Yes, Japan had put out feelers about surrender but their terms were unacceptable. They demanded that the US NOT occupy their country and that the Emperor remain in power. Those terms were totally, and justifiably unacceptable. After Hiroshima, we demanded unconditional surrender to which they refused to respond. After Nagasaki, the vote to surrender was tied and it was Emperor Hirohito himself who broke the tie.
Anyone who doesn't realize that the two bombs saved millions of lives, is delusional, living in a fairy tale world or are simply Trolls eager to wrestle in the mud.
Bombing Hiroshima changed the world, but it didnāt end WWII
Accepting the truth doesnāt make you a traitor or unpatriotic. It doesnāt minimize the tremendous sacrifices made by the American fighting man.Gipper and Unkotare are simply two busy Trolls. Gipper really had to work hard to get a few to rise to his bait.
The Japanese people were brainwashed even more so than the German citizens. The Emperor was their God, a being they worshipped. He and their leaders had convinced each and every citizen that the allies would rape, torture and murder any and all soldiers captured including all civilians.
Tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of military personnel and committed suicide rather than be captured. Thousands of mothers were seen cutting the throats of their children, throwing them off cliffs before jumping to their deaths.
The Battle of Okinawa demonstrated the fierceness of the Japanese and how far they would go before giving ground. The battle was fought from April 1 to June 22, 1945. U.S. troops suffered nearly 50,000 casualties of which approximately one quarter were deaths. The Japanese, on the other hand, lost about 100,000 of 110,000 men. The largest amphibious campaign of the Pacific War also claimed heavy civilian casualties as an estimated 100,000 civilians were killed by the end of the campaign. According to many historians, the Battle of Okinawa had a major influence on the US decision to drop atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki as it clearly revealed that the invasion of Japan would claim huge casualties on both sides.
List of 10 Greatest Battles of the Pacific War - History Lists
Yes, Japan had put out feelers about surrender but their terms were unacceptable. They demanded that the US NOT occupy their country and that the Emperor remain in power. Those terms were totally, and justifiably unacceptable. After Hiroshima, we demanded unconditional surrender to which they refused to respond. After Nagasaki, the vote to surrender was tied and it was Emperor Hirohito himself who broke the tie.
Anyone who doesn't realize that the two bombs saved millions of lives, is delusional, living in a fairy tale world or are simply Trolls eager to wrestle in the mud.
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Yes, Japan had put out feelers about surrender but their terms were unacceptable. .....
The terms were the same as those we ultimately accepted.
Accepting the truth doesnāt make you a traitor or unpatriotic. It doesnāt minimize the tremendous sacrifices made by the American fighting man.Gipper and Unkotare are simply two busy Trolls. Gipper really had to work hard to get a few to rise to his bait.
The Japanese people were brainwashed even more so than the German citizens. The Emperor was their God, a being they worshipped. He and their leaders had convinced each and every citizen that the allies would rape, torture and murder any and all soldiers captured including all civilians.
Tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of military personnel and committed suicide rather than be captured. Thousands of mothers were seen cutting the throats of their children, throwing them off cliffs before jumping to their deaths.
The Battle of Okinawa demonstrated the fierceness of the Japanese and how far they would go before giving ground. The battle was fought from April 1 to June 22, 1945. U.S. troops suffered nearly 50,000 casualties of which approximately one quarter were deaths. The Japanese, on the other hand, lost about 100,000 of 110,000 men. The largest amphibious campaign of the Pacific War also claimed heavy civilian casualties as an estimated 100,000 civilians were killed by the end of the campaign. According to many historians, the Battle of Okinawa had a major influence on the US decision to drop atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki as it clearly revealed that the invasion of Japan would claim huge casualties on both sides.
List of 10 Greatest Battles of the Pacific War - History Lists
Yes, Japan had put out feelers about surrender but their terms were unacceptable. They demanded that the US NOT occupy their country and that the Emperor remain in power. Those terms were totally, and justifiably unacceptable. After Hiroshima, we demanded unconditional surrender to which they refused to respond. After Nagasaki, the vote to surrender was tied and it was Emperor Hirohito himself who broke the tie.
Anyone who doesn't realize that the two bombs saved millions of lives, is delusional, living in a fairy tale world or are simply Trolls eager to wrestle in the mud.
It does expose the war crimes committed by Truman, and the propaganda promoted by the criminals in the ruling class.
Five myths about the atomic bomb
1. The bomb ended the war.
2. The bomb saved half a million American lives.
3. The only alternative to the bomb was an invasion of Japan.
4. The Japanese were warned before the bomb was dropped.
5. The bomb was timed to gain a diplomatic advantage over Russia and proved a āmaster cardā in early Cold War politics.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...e5-b673-1df005a0fb28_story.html?noredirect=on
You think Iām a liberal. LMFAO......
Yes, Japan had put out feelers about surrender but their terms were unacceptable. .....
The terms were the same as those we ultimately accepted.
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Yes, Japan had put out feelers about surrender but their terms were unacceptable. .....
The terms were the same as those we ultimately accepted.
A few points:
* Not all Japanese forces were brutal and cruel. Japanese rule in a few places was mild and tolerant. It depended on which general was in charge in the country.
* Many Japanese leaders opposed harsh and cruel measures when they became aware of them, and many Japanese leaders did not learn of the army's cruelty until after the war because of army censorship.
* The death rate of Japanese POWs held by the Soviets was nearly double the death rate of American POWs held by the Japanese.
* We killed hundreds of thousands of Japanese civilians, many of them women and children, in our bombing raids on Japan. The numbers of dead and wounded grew even more when we began to use napalm ("fire-bombing"). After November 1944, Japan was virtually defenseless against air attacks. Our air raids lost fewer than 4 percent of their planes.
* FDR, desperate to save Stalin's Soviet Union from collapse, imposed increasingly harsh sanctions on staunchly anti-communist Japan and rejected every Japanese peace offer. Japan only decided to attack Pearl Harbor when it became clear that FDR was not going to accept any of the enormous concessions that Japan was offering in an effort to get the sanctions lifted. Instead of making Japan an ally, FDR provoked them to war. Japan was prepared to invade the Soviet Union, but FDR made sure that didn't happen.
http://miketgriffith.com/files/immoraluse.pdf
Oh my, those poor Japs, abused by Da Ebul FDR; I guess he also sent them training films on the correct use of pitchforks for loading live babies onto trucks and other Fun Facts of Japanese occupation. All those American POWs were liars, too, forced to perjure themselves by Da Ebul FDR, too. Stalin told him what to do n stuff.
Cherry-picking and exaggeration don't refute facts. FDR definitely pushed the Japanese into war because he was desperate to save Stalin's Russia. He turned down very reasonable, if not extraordinary, Japanese peace offers, and refused to even meet with Prince Konoye (Konoe) to discuss the situation.
As for Japanese occupation, go read Hildi Kang's book Under the Black Umbrella: Voices from Colonial Korea, 1910ā1945. Kang interviewed hundreds of Koreans who lived under Japanese rule in Korea and was rather stunned to discover that most of them had never experienced cruelty and that quite a few of them said they had no problems with the Japanese. Yes, there were some cases of abuse and cruelty, but these were the exception, not the rule.
Or, read General Elliott Thorpe's book East Wind, Rain. Thorpe was certainly no cheerleader for the Japanese, far from it, but even he was willing to admit that the Japanese treated Dutch prisoners from Java better than Sukarno's thugs treated them.
You mentioned American POW accounts. Yes, go read those accounts, because some of them mention Japanese guards who were not cruel or vicious and who did what they could to help the POWs. I again repeat the fact that the death rate among Japanese POWs in Soviets hands was nearly double the death rate of American POWs in Japanese hands.
To be clear, I am not denying that in many cases, many Japanese soldiers behaved in a cruel, vicious, inhumane manner, but such conduct was by no means universal.
And, while we're at it, we might wanna consider the voluminous evidence that many American soldiers behaved in a cruel and inhumane manner as well, including extracting gold fillings from live Japanese prisoners, executing Japanese prisoners, and shooting at Japanese sailors in the water after their boats had sunk. Our soldiers did not commit as many war crimes as did the Japanese, but they committed quite a few. Read John Dower's famous book War Without Mercy and Richard Aldrich's award-winning book The Far Away War: Personal Diaries of the Second World War in Asia and the Pacific.
Zero peace overtures. In fact, the military attempted a coup after the Emperor wanted to surrender after Nagasaki.The point was to defeat the enemy and end the war with minimal casualties to ourselves. It succeeded.
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On the contrary, had fdr not ignored overtures for surrender long before, many thousands of American servicemen might not have been killed.
Zero peace overtures. In fact, the military attempted a coup after the Emperor wanted to surrender after Nagasaki.The point was to defeat the enemy and end the war with minimal casualties to ourselves. It succeeded.
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On the contrary, had fdr not ignored overtures for surrender long before, many thousands of American servicemen might not have been killed.
Zero peace overtures. In fact, the military attempted a coup after the Emperor wanted to surrender after Nagasaki.The point was to defeat the enemy and end the war with minimal casualties to ourselves. It succeeded.
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On the contrary, had fdr not ignored overtures for surrender long before, many thousands of American servicemen might not have been killed.
Zero peace overtures. In fact, the military attempted a coup after the Emperor wanted to surrender after Nagasaki.The point was to defeat the enemy and end the war with minimal casualties to ourselves. It succeeded.
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On the contrary, had fdr not ignored overtures for surrender long before, many thousands of American servicemen might not have been killed.
The Japs [sic] did not see there situation as "hopeless" in the least.
Sure, they realized that they were the underdogs by August 1945.
But they WERE working on new secret weapons themselves that they thought might turn around the war. And extending the war by forcing America to endure casualties we weren't accustomed to in the Invasion Angle, were hoped to reduce American resolve.
